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Friday, May 26, 2023

Steve Benen: The regional sweep is now effectively complete: From Texas to Missouri, North Carolina to Florida, Republicans in literally every southeastern state have now imposed abortion bans.

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And folks are free to move if it's that important to them.

#1 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2023-05-26 10:52 AM | Reply

"Back to the Future" - Southern style. Women in today's South have less autonomy over their own bodies than did most of their mothers and grandmothers, and are now face with multi-hundred or thousand mile journeys to "freedom states" in order to receive unfettered healthcare services free from male-dominated and imposed government restrictions.

American women better wake up and vote for their own freedom moving forward or recognize the GOP plans on making them little more than incubators without any say over their own lives and healthcare options.

#2 | Posted by GrimReaper at 2023-05-26 10:57 AM | Reply

"And folks are free to move"

All it takes is money, right -------?

#3 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-05-26 11:08 AM | Reply

"folks are free to move if it's that important to them."

Because we know if one group has ready cash to spare, it's Southerners who feel treated like second-class citizens.

#4 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-05-26 11:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I mean the left always goes on and on about how great their states are. You guys should be creating funds to help your votes move there.

#5 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2023-05-26 11:44 AM | Reply

"And folks are free to move if it's that important to them."

"Free"
Moving isn't free.
But it's cheaper than having a baby.
Unless you're poor, then your baby becomes taxpayer expense.
And then Republicans will hate you and your baby for consuming taxpayer resources.

Any questions?

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-05-26 11:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What's the breakdown of single mothers utilizing government assistance vs married mothers?

I'd venture a guess the single mothers take up a far greater percentage on the statistics for government services. If they choose to have poor choices in the men they have chosen to hop into bed with, that would be on them. This is the real issue because life is all about the choices you make. Anyways, you guys can get some buses together like the Republicans did with the illegal immigrants and welcome these folks into your states.

#7 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2023-05-26 12:33 PM | Reply

"If they choose to have poor choices in the men they have chosen to hop into bed with, that would be on them"

So screw the kids so long as we have someone else to blame. I bet this guy thinks he's a Christian.

#8 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2023-05-26 12:36 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

"If they choose to have poor choices in the men they have chosen to hop into bed with, that would be on them"

Like the poor choice your mother made when she hopped into bed with your father?

That is impacting all of us.

#9 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-05-26 12:45 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

Catholic* Hagbard but thanks. Also, pretty sure Jesus isn't down with abortion but feel free to quote the obscure text from the Talmud ...

#10 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2023-05-26 12:49 PM | Reply

Catholic* Hagbard but thanks. Also, pretty sure Jesus isn't down with abortion but feel free to quote the obscure text from the Talmud ...

POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES AT 2023-05-26 12:49 PM | REPLY

Considering Jesus Christ never spoke about abortion you would be wrong.

#11 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2023-05-26 12:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

pretty sure Jesus isn't down with abortion

Based on what?

You close, personal relationship with him?

He whispering sweet nothings in your ear?

#12 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-05-26 12:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Catholic* Hagbard but thanks. Also, pretty sure Jesus isn't down with abortion but feel free to quote the obscure text from the Talmud ...

#10 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

Jesus was all about recipes for abortion

btw any god that allows childhood leukemia is not a god worth listening to

#13 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-05-26 12:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Move?

If they have the means, of course

Bigger picture though, MTGwaffles is going to Crow today and Cry tomorrow

It's what these cretins do

It will crow it up and do backslaps and victory laps today
But come tomorrow, it will be crying about a lack of professionals and the states upwardly mobile youths going elsewhere

In other words, the only people left in this situation are the dregs, (think Danville VA, catawba SC or anywhere in Alabama, Mississippi)

It never fails
Mark my words
You just wait

#14 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2023-05-26 01:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

You guys should be creating funds to help your votes move there.

#5 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

We don't have to do anything you silly maga maroon.

Red states are doing all the work for us.

In California (being the fourth largest economy in the world) we really didn't need the hundreds of millions of extra dollars Disney will now be sending our way but thanks!

We appreciate the support.

#15 | Posted by donnerboy at 2023-05-26 01:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In a vacuum, if I had to guess which group of women receive more in government benefits, single women v. married women, I would guess that married women overall receive far more money than unmarried women. I suspect that there are some stats out there which should be able to resolve the issue. Poverty is endemic throughout much of the South. Especially Mississippi, Alabama and Louisiana.

#16 | Posted by moder8 at 2023-05-26 01:21 PM | Reply

www.theatlantic.com

The High Price of Being Single in America
Over a lifetime, unmarried people can pay upwards of $1 million more than their married counterparts for health care, taxes, and more.

#17 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-05-26 01:28 PM | Reply

Poverty is endemic throughout much of the South. Especially Mississippi, Alabama and Louisiana.

#16 | POSTED BY MODER8

Too much lead in the water down there?

There definitely is something in the water down there.

#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2023-05-26 01:39 PM | Reply

" Poverty is endemic throughout much of the South. Especially Mississippi, Alabama and Louisiana."

B-b-b-but we've been told Right-To-Work would turn us into economic powerhouses!

#19 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-05-26 02:27 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"You guys should be creating funds to help your votes move there."

#5 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

You should be getting a letter from Craps-His-Pants Putin...Bakhmut is calling.

#20 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-05-26 02:34 PM | Reply

"Over a lifetime, unmarried people can pay upwards of $1 million more than their married counterparts for health care, taxes, and more."

Still cheaper than having kids!

#21 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-05-26 02:35 PM | Reply

In some ways, the best revenge the South has for losing the Civil War is by demonstrating to the rest of the nation, and behaving in a way that shows they reject all the most basic freedoms the USA was first founded upon. Because, really, that is what they consistently seek to do.

#22 | Posted by moder8 at 2023-05-26 03:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

And now that I think about it, whatever made the people of the North ever believe people from the South who whole heartedly supported slavery could ever, in a million years, be good 'Americans'?

#23 | Posted by moder8 at 2023-05-26 03:53 PM | Reply

Tricia Cotham must not expect to be elected again. She represents Mecklenburg which is one of the liberal counties in the state but switched to R this year and gave the R's a veto proof majority. I can't imagine Mecklenburg can be too happy with her right now. We should have been safe until 2025 when Cooper had to step down but she went and threw the game to the R's.

On the plus side at least we didn't go 6 weeks and kept rape and ------ until 20 and no limit for life of mother so it could be worse. The bill also included funding to increase contraceptive services, reduce infant and maternal mortality and provide paid maternity leave for state employees and teachers so at least we got something for the 8 week loss.

#24 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2023-05-26 05:17 PM | Reply

"Tricia Cotham must not expect to be elected again."

She's expecting North Carolina will win their "Sovereign State Legislature" elections case before the Supreme Court.
Once Republicans win that case, elections won't matter any more, and Red State Legislature will choose the state's Electors.

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-05-26 05:22 PM | Reply

"Independent State Legislature" I think it's called.
Regardless of what you call it, it means ignoring the voters.

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-05-26 05:22 PM | Reply

Also, pretty sure Jesus isn't down with abortion
#10 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

Let's see the receipts for that one please.

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-05-26 05:27 PM | Reply

"Entire South Enacts Strict Abortion Bans"

As a practical matter, this means:

More poverty, especially for Blacks.
Lower standard of living, especially for Blacks.
Lower life expectancy, especially for Blacks.

In other words: All the things Republicans want, especially for Blacks.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-05-26 05:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" pretty sure Jesus isn't down with abortion"

You are? Then you'll easily be able to answer:
If Jesus were telling the parable of The Good Samaritan today ... who would The Samaritan be?

#29 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-05-26 05:31 PM | Reply

Waffles is speaking for Jesus now.
Too funny.

Not one word about abortion did Jesus ever say.
It is covered in the OT, however.
Jews fully understand it in the context of the Torah and have no issue with it. In fact it is the responsible thing to do in certain cases. An act of mercy. Mercy. If there's one thing we've learned "mercy" isn't even a glint in the mind of today's Republicans.

But some loud mouthed self-righteous moralizing "christians" think abortion is just horrible, terrible, immoral, awful and that they have the right to dictate in law what a woman can do, what other religions can do, what people can do.

Here's the thing: They're clueless as to their religious institutions stance of abortion for the previous decades, even millennium. They only know the "latest fad" about it being "bad." The reinvented cause that never existed before. The lie of a fetal heartbeat.

Abortion was bad in the Catholic Church prior to the 1970's because it was viewed as trying to eliminate and/or hide the sin of sexual impropriety; adultery, fornication, etc. Not because the fetus was "alive." Not because the fetus had some "right to life"

Then the "right" saw a political tool to exploit to get segregation back in place, to open "christian" schools, and to gain political power. This worked - because even though the Southern Baptists were never bothered by abortion, when they saw a way to use it they started preaching it as a "right to life" issue. Something they never, ever cared about and never believed before. And it spread.

It's all a lie.

#30 | Posted by YAV at 2023-05-26 05:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

As an aside it is reprehensible to use a mythological figure to justify stripping women of their rights.

Might as well warn that zeus will shoot a lighting bolt up your ass if you have an abortion.

#31 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-05-26 05:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#25

That won't help a state representative get re-elected. If she was a US legislator representing NC then yeah but she isn't so I would guess Mecklenburg will tell her to take a hike, or she could be in once of the crazy gerrymandered districts and not have to worry. In my district Jesus Christ himself would lose if he ran as a Republican but most of the state now Genghis Khan could win as Republican.

#32 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2023-05-26 05:57 PM | Reply

#32

Actual should make that Ivan the Terrible, the Ghengis Khan was a fairly good administrator from what I have read.

#33 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2023-05-26 06:03 PM | Reply

"Waffles is speaking for Jesus now."

When G-d is on your side,
That's how you know you're a Fascist.

I hope TOR is taking notes!

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-05-26 07:04 PM | Reply

Southern Talibaptists won't be content till they've repealed the 19th Amendment.

#35 | Posted by Sop at 2023-05-26 07:49 PM | Reply

I keep wondering when people from the South start migrating to Minnesota.

It's hard to believe it's true. It has almost a 9/11 feel to it, in terms of how surreal it is. Watching all these Southern states outlaw abortion and deliberately set themselves back economically and systematically grow the underclass to use as conduits for Federal welfare spending, transferring public treasure that disproportionately originated in Blue states, into private hands in Red states.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-05-26 10:27 PM | Reply

No company worth a damn is going to continue to invest in a red state. No one is going to want to work for them there, either, unless they already live there. Relocate to a red state? Oh hell no.

#37 | Posted by YAV at 2023-05-26 10:33 PM | Reply

As LBJ said when he signed the Civil Rights Act - "we've lost the south for a generation" - Dobbs and the resulting loss of a woman's choice will reverberate against the GOP for years to come:

"There has been a 6 point swing in the last year on the Generic Senate ballot from R+3 to D+3. This movement is [led] overwhelmingly by Independent and NEW voters that identify abortion as one of their top issues"

The poll, conducted April 20-24, had similar findings on the House side. "There has been a 10 point swing in the last year on the Generic House Ballot from R+6 to D+4. This movement is [led] overwhelmingly by Independent and NEW voters that identify abortion as one of their top issues," it said on slide seven. "Reproductive Freedom is the #1 issue among those that DID NOT vote in 2020."

rollcall.com

#38 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2023-05-27 04:34 AM | Reply

People are fleeing blue states for red states. Voting with their feet if you will. If this a big issue as is claimed, then we'll see some go back the other way. But something tells me that there isn't much draw to a blue state. If you don't have financial freedom, you have nothing.

#39 | Posted by THEBULL at 2023-05-27 08:24 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

#38

This might be the catalyst that makes NC turn blue we have been sorta teetering towards purple for a bit but the R lock on our state legislature had let them gerymand the state enough to keep power however the efforts seem to get a bit more desperate and a bit less successful each cycle. The bathroom bill gave us a D governor what might the abortion law do with even more non-natives now calling NC home.

Then again the fact that they kept it at 12 weeks and allowed 20 for rape and inceset might be enough of a tone down to keep the middle from defecting. We do still love our guns and bibles around here though so I guess we'll see.

#40 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2023-05-27 09:00 AM | Reply

"But something tells me that there isn't much draw to a blue state. If you don't have financial freedom, you have nothing."

Huh?

People in Blue states make more money and get better social services.

People in Blue stars have more financial freedom.

#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-05-27 09:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

But something tells me that there isn't much draw to a blue state

#39 | POSTED BY THEBULL

Auditory hallucinations are worthy of medical attention.

I live in Texas because I was born here and it is my home. It will be Blue in my lifetime.

But I have lived in more than one Blue State and that was wonderful.

I wouldn't advise any young family to raise their children in Texas. Especially not daughters.

#42 | Posted by Zed at 2023-05-27 10:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Texas won't be Blue in your lifetime. I'd be gladly willing to wager pretty much so anything on that bet.

#43 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2023-05-27 12:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Texas won't be Blue in your lifetime.

#43 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

Not in your lifetime nor in mine, provided we both die tomorrow.

#44 | Posted by Zed at 2023-05-27 12:27 PM | Reply

Hey Zed, the Dems in Texas have been screeching this talking point since W knocked that old alcoholic Richards out of the Governor's mansion and it still hasn't happened 30 years later. This utterance is no different than the looney Republicans out in California who claim they will turn things around in that state.

#45 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2023-05-27 01:21 PM | Reply

since W knocked that old alcoholic Richards out of the Governor's mansion

#45 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

The newer alcoholic displaced the elder, yes.

#46 | Posted by Zed at 2023-05-27 01:37 PM | Reply

45 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

If Texas weren't turning Blue the MAGA crowd here wouldn't be so interested in limiting voting and over-turning local elections in places like Houston.

#47 | Posted by Zed at 2023-05-27 01:39 PM | Reply

I mean the left always goes on and on about how great their states are. You guys should be creating funds to help your votes move there.

#5 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES AT 2023-05-26

Nah! We prefer to slowly turn southern states 1st to purple, and then blue over time, like VA, GA, and TX.

I'm sure you'd love us to leave so you can revel in you momentary ignorance, but we will stick around, fight the good fight, and pray that we influence enough of your children and grandchildren to change.

#48 | Posted by earthmuse at 2023-05-27 02:51 PM | Reply

Face it Waffles, the only reason the GOP is still relevent in several southern states is how much you've cheated through gerrymandering, and rigging polling places, and squashing the minority vote. Eventually, it will become too much to hold back and manage, and some of those states will start to turn blue.

#49 | Posted by earthmuse at 2023-05-27 02:55 PM | Reply

since W knocked that old alcoholic Richards out of the Governor's mansion

#45 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

Ann Richards had been sober for many years before her stint as governor, and until her death.

#50 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2023-05-27 03:24 PM | Reply

W the dry drunk who still dunked on dull donnie?

#51 | Posted by Tor at 2023-05-27 04:27 PM | Reply

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