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Thursday, August 31, 2023

New York is allowing the Muslim call to prayer to be broadcast 5 times daily over the air without a permit for one of their month long holidays.

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This is most likely a first step towards being broadcast year round.

I have no problems with different religions professing their faith in the open forum, but not where you are not able to walk away and ignore it.

There are a lot of major differences between Christians and Muslims although it appears some atheists lump them all together out of ignorance.

I have read people write as Muslims congregate in larger number in an area they make demands "in the name of practicing their religion".

This story about New York concerns me because Muslims and atheists have a common enemy.

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Churches around here still ring bells at noon. Is this different somehow?

When I was in Kosovo they would broadcast and it could be heard for miles. Funny because it was a mostly secular society and they ignored it too.

#1 | Posted by mattm at 2023-08-31 12:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Church Bells have been rung in America for centuries.

Heck they use to be the emergency alert system.

#2 | Posted by Tor at 2023-08-31 12:49 PM | Reply

"they make demands "in the name of practicing their religion"."

Like not selling cakes to queers?

#3 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-08-31 12:54 PM | Reply

@#2 ... Church Bells have been rung in America for centuries. Heck they use to be the emergency alert system. ..

Around here, the church bell sound is now generated electronically, and travels couple of miles.

So, maybe, the prayer broadcast facilities could also be used for emergency alerts?



#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-08-31 01:04 PM | Reply

I had a Fox News-watching friend who was a retired police sergeant. He'd always make fun of me as a "liberal."

When Obama was running I showed up at his house for a cookout with a rolled up rug under my arm. Got in the door and said, "QUICK! Which way is Mecca?!" got on my knees, mumbling "Allahu Akbar" as I bowed.

He got really drunk as the night wore on and tore into me as a "Commie Muslim terrorist sympathizer."

I never returned. He died of a heart attack shortly afterwards.

#5 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2023-08-31 01:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Legal,

"Like not selling cakes to queers?"

Heard about people in the name of God tossing them off buildings lately?

Some Christians just don't want to sell a same sex wedding cake which may very well be Constititional.

Tossing off buildings not so much Constitutional.

#6 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-08-31 01:56 PM | Reply

New York is allowing the Muslim call to prayer to be broadcast 5 times daily over the air without a permit for one of their month long holidays.

POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Why are you lying? (just kidding, we know why)

It's not 5 times a day. Literally its once on Friday afternoon and everyday at sundown during Ramadan.

From your story:

1. "Fridays between 12:30 p.m. and 1:30 p.m."
2. "also allows the call to prayer to be broadcast in the evenings during Ramadan"

Also, the new guidance applies to all houses of Worship, not just Islam.

#7 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-08-31 02:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

What a riot.

I grew up in a Catholic parish. The bells rang for Mass at 6,7, and 8 daily, as well as the noon and 6PM Angelus.

On Sundays, add 9, 10:30, and noon Masses as well. And of course, add every exit walk of a wedding couple.

BillJohnson would've been just fine with those calls to prayer.

#8 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-08-31 03:04 PM | Reply

Here's where I DO have a beef. FTA:

The new initiative, launched by the NYPD, clarifies the call to prayer is allowed in New York City and "not prohibited despite sound restrictions in city neighborhoods," the release said.

Why shouldn't the religious organization have to adhere to the local decibel limits? Or do they also excuse other religious groups equally?

#9 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-08-31 03:14 PM | Reply

Sy,

Call to prayer is a 5 time daily event.

Give it time.

Things never contract.

Things only expand.

Islam is a very aggressive religion.

They don't mess around.

#10 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-08-31 04:14 PM | Reply

One month a year.

Then add a month...another month.

Then extend the times.

They're playing the game to get their beliefs spread.

Watch out.

You atheists will eventually wish you only had Christians not wanting to bake a cake.

#11 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-08-31 04:17 PM | Reply

" Islam is a very aggressive religion."

And you're pretending my Catholics aren't? Heck, we STARTED the 5 calls to prayer a day! Six on Sunday!!!

#12 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-08-31 04:19 PM | Reply

" One month a year. Then add a month...another month."

It's Ramadan. That's one month.

FFS, that's like a Muslim claiming Christians want Christmas Season, every season.

#13 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-08-31 04:21 PM | Reply

"You atheists will eventually wish you only had Christians not wanting to bake a cake."

Or stick their hands into women's bodies. Or denigrate gender fluid people. Or send money to traitors. Or....

#14 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-08-31 04:22 PM | Reply

Sy,

"Also, the new guidance applies to all houses of Worship, not just Islam."

Then Christians need to add to their church doctrine bells must be played.

#15 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-08-31 04:22 PM | Reply

Dan,

You're dense.

It's the singing that is the issue. Not the holiday.

#16 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-08-31 04:36 PM | Reply

I have no problems with different religions professing their faith in the open forum, but not where you are not able to walk away and ignore it.

Agreed. And to equate this "call to prayer" with church bells ringing at noon is ridiculous. Bells, in an of themselves, are not religious. Furthermore, they ring at noon iow they are a time piece set to alarm at noon.

#17 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2023-08-31 05:13 PM | Reply

" Bells, in an of themselves, are not religious."

They ABSOLUTELY ARE when rung by a church at the start of a service, or as a call to prayer. FFS, that exactly what an Angelus is.

#18 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-08-31 05:21 PM | Reply

" It's the singing that is the issue. Not the holiday."

Like Christmas music in every store starting the day after Halloween?

Admit it Bill: it's not the singing, it's The Muslims.

#19 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-08-31 05:24 PM | Reply

" Then Christians need to add to their church doctrine bells must be played."

They already do that. You don't notice it, because you're okay with those religions.

#20 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-08-31 05:27 PM | Reply

" I have no problems with different religions professing their faith in the open forum, but not where you are not able to walk away and ignore it."

You just described the pealing of the bells.

#21 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-08-31 05:34 PM | Reply

Church bells aren't associated with a culture that killed thousands of new yorkers in 2001.

#22 | Posted by Tor at 2023-08-31 05:39 PM | Reply

"Church bells aren't associated with a culture that killed thousands of new yorkers in 2001."

Oooh ... now do all the other years in history.

#23 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-08-31 05:50 PM | Reply

Dan,

"Admit it Bill: it's not the singing, it's The Muslims."

Absolutely I admit it.

#24 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-08-31 06:10 PM | Reply

Danforth you can go a life time doing nothing wrong and in a matter of seconds commit a solitary crime that society will never forget.

#25 | Posted by Tor at 2023-08-31 06:20 PM | Reply

Dan,

I prefer my Gid who teaches, "turn the other cheek" rather than "kill the infidels".

Just sayin"

#26 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-08-31 06:21 PM | Reply

Don't post without your glacces on

#27 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-08-31 06:22 PM | Reply

>>>>I prefer my Gid who teaches, "turn the other cheek" rather than "kill the infidels".

Did you ever read about the Crusades?

#28 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2023-08-31 06:40 PM | Reply

"turn the other cheek" rather than "kill the infidels".

Whereas what we've got is blame the gay infidels for 9/11.

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-08-31 06:41 PM | Reply

" Danforth you can go a life time doing nothing wrong and in a matter of seconds commit a solitary crime that society will never forget."

And you can be ignorant of history and pretend the religions who ring the bells were innocent angels.

#30 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-08-31 06:43 PM | Reply

If you don't like New York's decision then put the blame where it belongs, on the recent history of Supreme Court rulings. Over the past 20 or so years the Court has seen a dramatic shift in their position. Previous Courts weren't so accommodating of religions imposing their practices and beliefs on others but the modern Court has changed all that with a number of rulings that exempt the religious from laws and norms that everyone else is expected to follow. This current Court has completely turned their back on the Constitution and has embraced an establishment of religion.

#31 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2023-08-31 06:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Did you ever read about the Crusades?"

They think you're talking about the Holy Cross Basketball team making the NCAA Tournament.

#32 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-08-31 06:48 PM | Reply

"This current Court has completely turned their back on the Constitution and has embraced an establishment of religion."

Which BillJohnson is all for, provided it's his religion.

#33 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-08-31 06:50 PM | Reply

Personally I'd rather not have someone blare their superstition into my skull. But whatevs, the people of NY want to allow it since they voted for these clowns.

Hope the Flying Spaghetti Monster Church broadcasts an equally loud fart call to prayer at the same time.

#34 | Posted by censored at 2023-08-31 06:51 PM | Reply

"This story about New York concerns me because Muslims and atheists have a common enemy."

BillJohnson,

Christ has already died for your sins.

You don't have to invent ways to be a victim on his behalf.

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-08-31 06:53 PM | Reply

" Personally I'd rather not have someone blare their superstition into my skull."

So no bells, or is that superstition okay?

#36 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-08-31 06:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Dan,

"They already do that. You don't notice it, because you're okay with those religions."

You know I think I did just read recently
someone found where Jesus said,

"Verily, verily, I say unto thee, let the bells of the sanctuaries toll each hour; for if they toll not, verily, the souls of men shall be cast into the pit of eternal damnation."

He said it in Early Modern English. He opted not to say it in Old English trying to be progressive. I read all about it.

That's the truth.

#37 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-08-31 06:58 PM | Reply

Sch,

"Did you ever read about the Crusades?"

So you'd prefer women in the west to be wearing hijabs and not be any gays?
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#38 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-08-31 07:15 PM | Reply

So no bells, or is that superstition okay? #36 | Posted by Danforth

Not by me, it isn't.

These wackos need a taste of their own medicine. Like when the Christians became uncomfortable when the guy wanted equal time to lead a Satanic prayer at the high school football games. Maybe then they'll get the idea of why they should keep their religion to themselves.

There isn't even any legit reason for the call to prayer anymore. Get a digital watch at the dollar store and learn how to operate the alarm function.

#39 | Posted by censored at 2023-08-31 07:24 PM | Reply

Censor,

Here's when it will get interesting.

When the Supreme Court decides "atheism" has functionally become a religion in America claiming they can't be regulated because they're not an organized religion.

#40 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-08-31 07:36 PM | Reply

Censor, Here's when it will get interesting. When the Supreme Court decides "atheism" has functionally become a religion in America claiming they can't be regulated because they're not an organized religion. #40 | Posted by BillJohnson

Call me cynical, but I don't think this TaliBaptist SCOTUS will ever rule that way. This is pretty much the same SCOTUS, ideologically speaking, that crapped on states rights to stop the Florida recount in 2000. But they added a "no precedential value" disclaimer in their decision so they could go back on it when the Republican need arose.

Now they're using the shadow docket so they can hide their hypocrisy in plain sight.

#41 | Posted by censored at 2023-08-31 08:00 PM | Reply

Is this a good time to remind folks that the Muslim population of the US is a whopping 1.1% of Americans and that 30 years from now that's only projected to increase to 2.1%? The uber minority of Muslims shouldn't be feared by the majority.

No, in the US, our terrorism tends to be committed by white Conservatives.

#42 | Posted by bartimus at 2023-09-01 12:00 AM | Reply

Bart,

What percentage of the population is gay compared to their relative media coverage these days?

Sharia Law may end up being protected as part of religious freedom in the US depending on who ends up on the Supreme Court.

I don't see other religions with such strict requirements that potentially could impact all of society.

As I mentioned earlier, both Muslims and atheists have a common interest to eradicate Christian beliefs. I could easily believe atheists might go to great lengths to support Islamic laws.

#43 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-09-01 09:40 AM | Reply

"What percentage of the population is gay compared to their relative media coverage these days?"

Far more than the percentage of school shootings compared to their relative media coverage.

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-01 09:47 AM | Reply

"I don't see other religions with such strict requirements that potentially could impact all of society."

Ask a woman in the South about getting an abortion. Then maybe you'll see.

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-01 09:51 AM | Reply

" I could easily believe atheists might go to great lengths to support Islamic laws."

What?!?

BillJohnson could easily believe total bullschittt???

STOP THE PRESSES!!!

#46 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-01 09:58 AM | Reply

"I could easily believe atheists might go to great lengths to support Islamic laws."

Your bigotry against atheists and Muslims is well documented. By you.

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-01 10:01 AM | Reply

"As I mentioned earlier, both Muslims and atheists have a common interest to eradicate Christian beliefs."

Which beliefs?

Feeding the poor? Giving away all your possessions? Rendering unto Caesar what is Caesar's, which is something the Christian Churches don't actually do?

#48 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-01 10:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sniff..sniff..

I smell a Snoofy.

#49 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-09-01 10:34 AM | Reply

" I smell a Snoofy."

Translation: Once again, I can't answer a direct question directly, since it nullifies my talking points.

#50 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-01 10:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Dan,

"Admit it Bill: it's not the singing, it's The Muslims."

After reconsidering my opinion, it's not the singing or Muslims.

The issue is it being broadcast. Most localities don't have church bells like was done decades ago.

The historically aggressive nature of Islam is what I find concerning.

Someone brought up the Christian Crusades. As I understand it, it was an attempt to take back the Holy Lands that Muslims had taken control. Christians failed.

#51 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-09-01 11:18 AM | Reply

"Like Christmas music in every store starting the day after Halloween?"

A nearby Walmart has their Christmas stuff out BEFORE Halloween - end of September. It's ridiculous.

#52 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-09-01 11:25 AM | Reply

Sy,
Call to prayer is a 5 time daily event.
Give it time.

#10 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Just say you lied.

#53 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-09-01 11:30 AM | Reply

Most localities don't have church bells like was done decades ago.

#51 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

This is New York. It has massive old churches with bells that can make you go deaf at 100 feet. New York is littered with church bells and they even ring them all together for some events.

If there was an Olympic event for backpeddling, you'd win Gold.

#54 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-09-01 11:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Bell,

"A nearby Walmart has their Christmas stuff out BEFORE Halloween - end of September. It's ridiculous."

I'd bet the music you'll hear is mostly about love and giving and running over Gramma, with very little being sung like Silent Night and other traditional Christian songs.

Its not really much emphasis on Christ in most places.

Christmas won't be abolished by atheists because everyone likes getting presents.

#55 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-09-01 11:35 AM | Reply

Sy,

The difference being bells ringing don't automatically make you recognize it as Christian or think of Christianity.

The vocal aspect of the Muslim singing would definitely cause you to be aware it is Muslim.

The Muslim apologists are getting started already.

#56 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-09-01 11:40 AM | Reply

Sy,

Bells ringing might not even be Christian.

But the call to prayer is most definitely Muslim

#57 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-09-01 11:43 AM | Reply

The historically aggressive nature of Islam is what I find concerning.

#51 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

As opposed to the non-aggressive nature of Christianity?

Let's ask South and Latin America, Africa and India.

Or for more modern examples, let's talk about Christianity's attacks on the LGBTQ community, attacks on Islam in this country, or the crazy Christian rightwing in this country. We don't even have to talk about some Christian countries around the world putting LGBTQ people to death in the name of Jesus.

Of course Islam is aggressive. All religions are aggressive. Because you pretend to be Christian, you just ignore the modern aggressions of Christianity.

#58 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-09-01 11:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sy,
Bells ringing might not even be Christian.
But the call to prayer is most definitely Muslim

#57 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Church Bells are ringing in New York City all the time for Christian worship and holidays.

A number of the churches ring them at noon and 6 p.m. or with Wednesday and Sunday services. They quite literally post it on their websites.

Have you ever even left your small town?

#59 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-09-01 11:51 AM | Reply

The difference being bells ringing don't automatically make you recognize it as Christian or think of Christianity.

#56 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

You are of course correct.

When a Church bell rings, I think it must be a local bar announcing happy hour or a local school celebrating a sporting event or possibly a new pizza shop opening. Hell, maybe even Big Ben just moved to jolly old New York. But definitely not a Christian Church of some kind.

#60 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-09-01 11:56 AM | Reply

Sy,

"Of course Islam is aggressive. All religions are aggressive. Because you pretend to be Christian, you just ignore the modern aggressions of Christianity."

Apparently Christians aren't very aggressive in America then.

They're losing to hedonism, atheism, materialism and idol worship.

#61 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-09-01 12:00 PM | Reply

Apparently Christians aren't very aggressive in America then.
They're losing to hedonism, atheism, materialism and idol worship.
#61 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

As if losing means they aren't aggressive...

The Churches are the homes of hedonism, materialism and idol worship.

Love seeing those mega-church pastors in $10 million homes, private jets, and a handful of mistresses...and misters.

"Send me 10% of your income for my private jet and alimony payments, and Jesus will bless you!"

And the churches couldn't be doing a better job of promoting atheism with the aggressive hatred of non-Christians, rampant greed, and massive underage sex scandals complete with cover ups.

#62 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-09-01 12:08 PM | Reply

Sy,

Then perhaps Christian churches need to stop ringing bells and start singing Bible verses.

#63 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-09-01 12:08 PM | Reply

Sy,

"And the churches couldn't be doing a better job of promoting atheism with the aggressive hatred of non-Christians, rampant greed, and massive underage sex scandals complete with cover ups."

I smell a strawman.

We're done.

#64 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-09-01 12:12 PM | Reply

Then perhaps Christian churches need to stop ringing bells and start singing Bible verses.

#63 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

When you convince them of that, let me know.

Until then, allowing the Muslim call to prayer is only fair. Unless you want to argue Christian churches should be treated somehow as special.

#65 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-09-01 12:13 PM | Reply

"Apparently Christians aren't very aggressive in America then."

Apparently you slept through January 6, 2021.

#66 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-01 12:14 PM | Reply

"And the churches couldn't be doing a better job of promoting atheism with the aggressive hatred of non-Christians, rampant greed, and massive underage sex scandals complete with cover ups."
I smell a strawman.
We're done.

#64 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

I smell a man hiding from reality and Google.

Run away little man. Run away to your little church that you pay to tell you how you are a unique, special little snowflake.

#67 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-09-01 12:16 PM | Reply

Muslim prayer call can be really quite beautiful.

I might add that some Christians might do well to consider that John 10:16 may well be speaking of Muslims.

#68 | Posted by Corky at 2023-09-01 12:24 PM | Reply

"Bells ringing might not even be Christian."

When rung by a church, to commemorate services or prayers, it most definitely IS.

#69 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-01 01:24 PM | Reply

69

... and an angel gets their wings!

#70 | Posted by Corky at 2023-09-01 01:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"I smell a strawman."

Telling the truth is not a strawman.

#71 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-01 02:07 PM | Reply

Dan,

The point I was making is bell ringing is not always Christian.

Personally, I believe some churches that have long since abandoned the core of Christianity in favor of a more generic message of love, any church would teach, rings their bells of love every Sunday.

Just without Christ.

My point is the Muslim call to prayer is singing messages proclaiming their beliefs.

Christians should do the same and forget bell ringing.

"God so loved the world he gave His only begotten Son"

Just sayin'.

#72 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-09-01 03:09 PM | Reply

"My point is the Muslim call to prayer is singing messages proclaiming their beliefs."

Only if you speak Arabic. Also, so what? Your money proclaims Christian beliefs on it.

#73 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-01 03:13 PM | Reply

Corky,

"Muslim prayer call can be really quite beautiful."

It actually is. You're right.

There are Middle Eastern recording artists I have enjoyed from time to time.

They use their voices very differently. No idea what they're saying.

Their use of instruments is quite beautiful.

#74 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-09-01 03:15 PM | Reply

The English translation of the adhan is:

God is Great! God is Great! God is Great! God is Great!
I bear witness that there is no god except the One God.
I bear witness that there is no god except the One God.
I bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of God.
I bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of God.
Hurry to the prayer. Hurry to the prayer.
Hurry to salvation. Hurry to salvation.
God is Great! God is Great!
There is no god except the One God.

Is it a problem for you when someone uses their First Amendment right to speak those words, BillJohnson?
What should we do about it?

#75 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-01 03:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" Telling the truth is not a strawman.

#71 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2023-09-01 02:07 PM | FLAG: "

An Oatman? Or Hayman?

#76 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-09-01 03:40 PM | Reply

"Your money proclaims Christian beliefs on it"

False statement. Nowhere does American money state "Christ" anywhere on it.

#77 | Posted by globriel at 2023-09-01 05:15 PM | Reply

"In God we trust" is very non-specific like having a battle flag that reads "appeal to heaven".

#78 | Posted by Tor at 2023-09-01 05:33 PM | Reply

"In God we trust" is very non-specific

I'm sorry, but no. The celestial entity in whom Trust is being placed isn't a mystery. It's the one Christians and Muslims and Jews pray to.

#79 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-01 05:52 PM | Reply

Deism isn't something new to educated Americans it's a known concept that's been around this country since it's founding.

#80 | Posted by Tor at 2023-09-01 05:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Indeed it has. All the Founders were Deist. Shame that deism died in the cataclysm of the Civil War.

#81 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-01 06:00 PM | Reply

A Deist would never put that pablum on the currency. They would put something like "This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private."

#82 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-01 06:25 PM | Reply

"A Deist would never put that pablum on the currency."

Oh yeah that would totally be against their belief that.......?

#83 | Posted by Tor at 2023-09-01 06:49 PM | Reply

@#51 ... The issue is it being broadcast. Most localities don't have church bells like was done decades ago. ...

Have any data on that "most localities" assertion?

My town has two churches that ring bells. One uses real bells, the other uses much louder electronic bells. (and, don't get me started on the commuter trains blowing their whistles at each and every road/rail crossing from 4am to 11pm every day....)

Based upon your prior comments, it seems to me more that the fact that it is not Christians doing the broadcasting that irks you.


#84 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-01 06:53 PM | Reply

Lamp,

"Have any data on that "most localities" assertion?"

Don't be stupid.

Atheists have complained and got them silenced all over America.

#85 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-09-01 08:35 PM | Reply

Lamp,

Or people who just don't want the noise.

Over the last few decades bells are most certainly ringing less.

And a lot are actually broadcast recordings now days and not bells at all.

#86 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-09-01 08:40 PM | Reply

Atheists have complained and got them silenced all over America.
#85 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Interesting. Got any more information on this?

#87 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-01 08:48 PM | Reply

Oh yeah that would totally be against their belief that.......?
#83 | POSTED BY TOR

You tell me.
What belief does 'In God We Trust" express?

#88 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-01 08:48 PM | Reply

Go ahead and square that with "Common Sense" by Thomas Paine.

In case you haven't read it, Thomas Payne ----- on "In God We Trust."

#89 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-01 08:50 PM | Reply

@#86 ... Or people who just don't want the noise. ...

I'd agree to that.

But your comments have shown that you do not like the noise because of the people providing the noise.

That is what you need to rationalize here.


So, yeah, I would be 100% in favor of all suppression of public noise. Church bells, call to Faiths, commuter train whistles.

So, how do we get there?


From your #24...

... Dan,

"Admit it Bill: it's not the singing, it's The Muslims."

Absolutely I admit it. ...



#90 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-01 08:55 PM | Reply

"You tell me."

No you wrote that it was in violation of some belief.

Go on now.

What belief is it?

#91 | Posted by Tor at 2023-09-01 10:05 PM | Reply

@#91 ... What belief is it? ...

My concern at this point is the emphasis of you upon some ~belief.~

What, exactly is the belief you proffer?

And, for bonus points, how does that tie into the Country.

Yer up...

#92 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-01 10:32 PM | Reply

"Or people who just don't want the noise."

Our prayers are beautiful music, but "their" prayers are nothing but noise, and ugly reminders of violence!
~BillJohnson, "Christian"

#93 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-01 10:40 PM | Reply

Here it is: The Muslim Call To Prayer - www.youtube.com

#94 | Posted by MSgt at 2023-09-02 01:55 PM | Reply

Adhan is annoying and stupid, but certainly no less so than the church bells that ring incessantly in Europe.

#95 | Posted by madbomber at 2023-09-02 03:41 PM | Reply

Dan,

"People lie so I reword other people's posts when I quote them saying what I know they really think."

Why?

#96 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-09-03 02:56 AM | Reply

Lamp,

"Admit it Bill: it's not the singing, it's The Muslims."
Absolutely I admit it."

I recanted an earlier post from the one you quoted.

I later revised it.

No..my issue isn't the singing or the religion. It's the point of being vocally broadcast.

I later suggested Christian churches might should start broadcasting singing Bible verses.

That would be fair.

#97 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-09-03 03:03 AM | Reply

"I recanted an earlier post from the one you quoted."

That doesn't change the truth. We've all seen the bigotry, time and again.

I didn't say, "Admit it, Bill, it's The Muslims" as a guess. Nor did you say "I admit it" as a fib.

#98 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-03 03:17 AM | Reply

I don't see other religions with such strict requirements that potentially could impact all of society.
#43 | Posted by BillJohnson

Hahahahahahahahahahahha!
Flag:Asleep under a rock.

And yet Bill Richardson is dead...

#99 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2023-09-03 08:50 AM | Reply

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