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Sunday, September 10, 2023

Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin has pardoned the Loudoun County father who protested against the sexual assault of his daughter and her public school's attempt to cover up the incident, his office announced Sunday. He was physically dragged out of the meeting and arrested.

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This story involved a biological male who dressed female and assaulted a girl in a school bathroom. The school board transferred the boy to another school where he assaulted another girl.

The father of the 2nd girl stood up at a school board meeting to protest the school boards cover up and was physically dragged from the room and arrested.

To me this is symbolic of what is happening in public schools in America regarding school administrations and parental rights.

I posted about this in another thread and this is a follow up to the story.

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It's gross injustice it went this far in the first place.

#1 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-09-10 12:55 PM | Reply

Youngkin also addressed simmering rumors that he may still join the Republican presidential primary, though he made no commitments.

The important point.

#2 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-09-10 01:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"He was physically dragged out of the meeting and arrested."

Was he charged?

"To me this is symbolic of what is happening in public schools in America regarding school administrations and parental rights."

That's not what symbolism means. The word you're looking for is microcosm.

What "parental rights" exist? Where are they written down? I don't believe this is even a thing, it's just something you Deplorables have demanded is a thing.

What the schools did with the bad kid is the same thing police do with bad police who victimize the ones they are supposed to serve and protect. Move them over to the next county. It's the same thing the priesthood does too.

However I don't think you'll find a pattern of schools sending transgender students to other district after a sexual assault allegation because there's not enough of those to form a pattern. Unlike cops and priests, where the pattern is clear.

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-10 01:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The governor went on to emphasize the importance of ensuring that parents have the final say over their children's education."

Parents who want that should homeschool their kids.
Parents who want an accredited curriculum should send their kids to an accredited school.
We should not be paying for parents to homeschool their kids.

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-10 01:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Youngkin's administration is currently cracking down on Virginia public schools that refusing to adequately enforce requirements that parents be informed if their child expresses any gender confusion at school."

What is the benefit when a parent is notified if their child expresses any gender confusion at school?

If a student in Spanish class says "el mano" instead of "la mano," that is clearly gender confusion in school. What is the parent supposed to do about it?

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-10 01:37 PM | Reply

"It's gross injustice it went this far in the first place."

A misdemeanor disorderly conduct charge?
That's not a gross injustice. That is a tiny injustice.

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-10 01:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sexual assault happens in high school. It's unfortunate and shouldn't. But it does.

There are procedures in place schools follow in such an event.

The administration removing the student from one school and transferring them to another is the proper procedure until there's an established pattern of assault by the student.

The father's anger at the student for assaulting his daughter is justified.

But gathering a mob and demanding the school board take special measures simply because this one time the assailant isn't CisHet is ridiculous. He needed to be arrested so he could go cool off.

I know BillJohnson/BellRinger will ignore reality to maintain their feigned outrage.

They have nothing but lies anger and Rightwing propaganda.

.

#7 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-10 02:20 PM | Reply

It's gross injustice it went this far in the first place.
#1 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Yea. Too bad the school district didn't allow the father and the mob to beat the shht out of that kid in order to sate their bloodlust.

You're firmly in the category of people who support mob justice.

Probably why you defend the 1/6 insurrection tooth and nail.

#8 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-10 02:24 PM | Reply

The administration removing the student from one school and transferring them to another is the proper procedure until there's an established pattern of assault by the student.

America is wild, are you saying there is no punishment for high school sexual assault?

Just move the kid around until he has managed to rape a young girl in every school?

Then where does he go? New district?

Do you consider this "school choice"?

Yea. Too bad the school district didn't allow the father and the mob to beat the shht out of that kid in order to sate their bloodlust.

It is too bad, IMO kin justice is here in America because the justice system is broken.

#9 | Posted by oneironaut at 2023-09-10 03:09 PM | Reply

are you saying there is no punishment for high school sexual assault?

You're more than welcome to look it up.

I'm assuming you were hoping the kid faced prison time? Perhaps would have liked to see the father beat them to death?

Just move the kid around until he has managed to rape a young girl in every school?

He didn't rape her. You're posting hyperbole. You're a troll and a waste of time.

here in America because the justice system is broken.

You can always move to wherever they're executing high school student for being sexually aggressive.

#10 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-10 03:51 PM | Reply

Clown,

The next time there's a thread on the Catholic cover up, I recommend you refrain from posting.

#11 | Posted by Billjohnson at 2023-09-10 04:03 PM | Reply

Bell,

He still had charges against him?

Sounds like Loudoun County was determined to take revenge for bringing them into the spotlight.

#12 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-09-10 04:10 PM | Reply

"However I don't think you'll find a pattern of schools sending transgender students to other district after a sexual assault allegation because there's not enough of those to form a pattern." --Snoofy

that being said -- I would not be surprised if there's a pattern of not-transgender kids who committed sexual assaults getting shuffled around.

I don't have a problem acknowledging the peculiarities of the student including identifying as trans played a role in the assault being mishandled.

But that's not a trans issue.

What it is, is such good fodder for the right because it reinforces their stereotype of a man dressed as a woman preying on women in women's bathrooms.

Nobody ever said trans people were immune from being sexual predators.

Just like nobody ever said teachers or priests were immune from being sexual predators.

Youngkin knows all this but he's testing the waters. Everything I know about him is in the context of "Parents Rights" in schools which is pure virtue signaling, so that's disturbing.

Loudon County Virginia has gone +20% Democrat in Presidential elections since 2000, from 41% for Gore to 61% for Biden. Because it's getting absorbed into the Woke DC Metro Area.

So this entire situation really appeals to the "Victim" status that Republicans need to fuel their Righteous Indignation. Youngkin here is letting them know he is serving their interests.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-10 04:24 PM | Reply

Story checks out.

www.nbcwashington.com

Fox isn't lying about this one.

#14 | Posted by Tor at 2023-09-10 04:24 PM | Reply

The next time there's a thread on the Catholic cover up, I recommend you refrain from posting.
#11 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Bill. You support adults raping children?

Or are you saying you feel like children should be tried as adults.

Why didn't the father of this girl seek legal recourse?

Why is this case of sexual assault between teenagers getting more attention than the rest?

#15 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-10 04:32 PM | Reply

Clown,

"Why is this case of sexual assault between teenagers getting more attention than the rest?"

The assault itself is only one part of the story.

Figure it out for yourself.

#16 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-09-10 05:07 PM | Reply

Bill.

The assault isn't the story.

Others you'd never have heard of it occurring.

Why didn't the father pursue legal action?

#17 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-10 05:20 PM | Reply

Democrats and public schools oddly putting biological male transgender rights ahead of girls they abuse and the protective parents of children will be a hill most all will fight to protect.

This guy handled this much better than most. As he said it is the politicized injustice department that required him to accept this pardon. Those involved charging him and covering up need to be the ones sent to prison for a long time.

#18 | Posted by Robson at 2023-09-10 08:10 PM | Reply

This should be wholly about the female victims and the cover up and the corrupt adminstration of the school. They really need to learn a lesson.

#19 | Posted by Robson at 2023-09-10 08:13 PM | Reply

People that obviously have never had children should STFU.

#20 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-09-10 09:04 PM | Reply

Robson is so worried about women, he votes for politicians who time and again, vote to strip them of their freedoms.

#21 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-10 09:24 PM | Reply

Why didn't the father pursue legal action?

#17 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2023-09-10 05:20 PM | REPLY BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2023-09-

Why should he have to? Shouldn't the school pursue legal action for sexual assault?
It's not the school who gets to decide who stands trial as an adult, that would be a judge's job.

#22 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2023-09-11 10:43 AM | Reply

Oh Lord. More lies from BillJohnson. Why am I not surprised.

#23 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2023-09-11 10:46 AM | Reply

Democrats and public schools oddly putting biological male transgender rights ahead of girls they abuse and the protective parents of children will be a hill most all will fight to protect.

#18 | POSTED BY ROBSON

He wasn't trans.

The trans bathroom rule wasn't in place at the time.

And he was her BOYFRIEND.

She went in the bathroom with him willing initially.

Welcome to Facts.

#24 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-09-11 12:54 PM | Reply

#24 He was wearing a skirt.

Even with husband and wife no still means no.

The school board covered up the incident because they didn't want it to halt their insatiable desire to have a "trans" policy allowing males to access girl's private spaces.

The boy (I'm calling him that because you claim he isn't trans) was transferred to another school to further cover up the incident and he sexually assaulted another girl.

And somehow, the girl's father is the bad guy in all of this for some on the left.

Welcome to facts.

#25 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-09-11 01:48 PM | Reply

"The boy (I'm calling him that because you claim he isn't trans) was transferred to another school to further cover up the incident and he sexually assaulted another girl."

He was transferred to another school because children have a right to an education and he was not convicted of a crime at the time and the school district was taking appropriate steps to protect the students and students have a right to privacy and you are an -------.

just to clarify your lie

#26 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-09-11 01:57 PM | Reply

He was transferred. That is not a lie. You are the type who thinks the dad is the bad guy and the girl got what she had coming to her.

#27 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-09-11 01:58 PM | Reply

He was transferred. That is not a lie. You are the type who thinks the dad is the bad guy and the girl got what she had coming to her.

#27 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER A

And you're a piece of ----.

"to further cover up the incident"

No one is claiming he wasn't transferred. Transfer is a standard response in these sorts of cases. Often that will resolve the conflict. Occasionally it won't. students are entitled to privacy and an education and due process, ---- that you want to get rid of because he wore a skirt.

because you are a piece of ----

And of course, in response to you being called out on your lie, you have to make ---- up about me. I haven't commented about the father, unless this is the guy tied up in the whole parents are terrorists meme, which in reality my argument is that if people are sending threatening emails to public officials the FBI absolutely should get involved. So, please make up positions for me that is on brand for the lying pos that you are.

#28 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-09-11 02:08 PM | Reply

#28. Classic watching you whine about having a position falsely assigned. It's what you live for.

#29 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-09-11 02:22 PM | Reply

Again, point out where I lied or STFU.

#30 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-09-11 02:22 PM | Reply

Again, point out where I lied or STFU.

#30 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

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#31 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-09-11 02:36 PM | Reply

That's how I see it. That is my OPINION. Opinions aren't lies.

You're the type of guy who calls someone a liar because they predict the 49'ers will win the Super Bowl this year.

#32 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-09-11 02:42 PM | Reply

That's how I see it. That is my OPINION. Opinions aren't lies.
You're the type of guy who calls someone a liar because they predict the 49'ers will win the Super Bowl this year.

#32 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

well, isn't that convenient.

douchebag

#33 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-09-11 02:45 PM | Reply

Opinions aren't lies.

#32 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Let's ask Tucker Carlson.

#34 | Posted by Zed at 2023-09-11 02:53 PM | Reply

Why should he have to?

Because his daughter was sexually assaulted and that would be his legal option to pursue.

Shouldn't the school pursue legal action for sexual assault?

The school wasn't sexually assaulted. The incident was between two student, not faculty related. The school district followed established protocol.

I asked this of other posters. No one answered. What would you like to see happen to a teenager, in high school, who sexually assaults another student?

Statistics I've seen on Google say 1 in 10 girls and 1 in 25 boys are sexually assaulted in k-12.

I've never seen any other student on student sexual assault case receive this much attention.

It's not the school who gets to decide who stands trial as an adult, that would be a judge's job.
#22 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTURDS

Which is why it's the fathers responsibility to hire a lawyer and take this to court, for a judge to decide.

Not, form a mob and attack the PTA meeting.

#35 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-11 02:56 PM | Reply

The school board covered up the incident

How many of you ignorant morons are going to repeat this?

Do you think being ignorant is an acceptable excuse?

The school followed established procedures. Which was set up by the department of education.

The school doesn't take the kid to court.

That's on the father. The fathers legal recourse is to hire a lawyer and take the kid, kids family, to court.

He may win a fine. Get a restraining order. Possibly get prison time for the assailant.

His illegal recourse is to gather a fkkking mob and become irate at a PTA meeting.

This is what's wrong with MAGAts. They're unable to think and simply get mad and violent.

You're all mentally unstable.

#36 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-11 03:03 PM | Reply

He was wearing a skirt.

Who the fkkk cares.

Get a fkkking life, grandpa.

#37 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-11 03:05 PM | Reply

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@#35 ... I've never seen any other student on student sexual assault case receive this much attention. ...

Probably because of this...

Virginia governor pardons man whose arrest at a school board meeting galvanized conservatives
apnews.com

... According to Loudoun Now, Smith threatened to kick out the teeth of deputies who dragged him away from a Loudoun County School Board meeting over state-mandated protections for transgender students. The local news outlet reported that he had argued loudly, clenched his fist and sworn at a woman while demanding answers over the handling of his daughter's assault. ...

But Loudoun County Commonwealth's Attorney Buta Biberaj said Sunday that Youngkin was interfering in the case for "political gain" before the start of early voting in legislative elections. ...



#38 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-11 03:15 PM | Reply

"well, isn't that convenient."

It's based upon what had already transpired. They were trying to get this policy passed and when asked if any incidences had occurred in the bathrooms they lied and said, "no". That is a cover-up which is why I feel the transfer was more about additional cover-up than the reasons you cited.

You are such a nasty piece of work. I'm no internet tough guy. Nevertheless, I'd love to see you talk to people in person the way you do on an anonymous blog.

#39 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-09-11 03:25 PM | Reply

"He was wearing a skirt."
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Who the fkkk cares.
Get a fkkking life, grandpa.

#37 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK"

That comment was in response to Sycophant flatly stating that this kid isn't transgender. As long as the kid wasn't violating school dress code I don't care what the kid was wearing.

#40 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-09-11 03:26 PM | Reply

"That's on the father. The fathers legal recourse is to hire a lawyer and take the kid, kids family, to court.
He may win a fine. Get a restraining order. Possibly get prison time for the assailant."

The kid was found guilty in juvenile court.

"His illegal recourse is to gather a fkkking mob and become irate at a PTA meeting."

I'll take things that never happened for $500, Alex.

#41 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-09-11 03:28 PM | Reply

...flatly stating that this kid isn't transgender.

Wearing a skirt doesn't make anyone transgender. Transvestite, yes.

These are not the same thing, although all the drag show haters are trying to conflate the two.

#42 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-09-11 03:42 PM | Reply

"the girl got what she had coming to her."

Which one, the assailant or the victim?

This is the only sexual assault case where Deplorables are fixated on what the assailant was wearing. Usually they focus on what the victim was wearing.

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-11 03:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Aren't we supposed to define anyone as trans the moment they declare it?

#44 | Posted by Tor at 2023-09-11 04:03 PM | Reply

" Aren't we supposed to define anyone as trans the moment they declare it?

#44 | POSTED BY TOR AT 2023-09-11 04:03 PM | FLAG: "

That's my understanding of the "rule."

#45 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-09-11 04:12 PM | Reply

Probably because of this...

That was rhetorical.

This entire thing is transphobia.

Nothing more.

But. I do appreciate the article. It's spot on about this being nothing more than pandering to transphobes.

Like billjohnson BellRinger lfthndturds Robson ...

#46 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-11 04:24 PM | Reply

" This entire thing is transphobia."

The pardon of a father who was arrested when trying to hold a school board accountable for their cover up of his daughter being sexually assaulted is transphobia? You are effed in the head with that take.

#47 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-09-11 04:27 PM | Reply

That comment was in response to Sycophant flatly stating that this kid isn't transgender.
#40 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Again. It's 2023.

Wearing a dress doesn't have to signify anything other than challenging the norms.

Being an ally.

Being a cross dresser.

Having fun.

Also. It was pointed out up thread they were boyfriend and girlfriend? Is this true?

If so. This is all the more ridiculous.

#48 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-11 04:29 PM | Reply

The pardon of a father who was arrested when trying to hold a school board accountable for their cover up of his daughter being sexually assaulted is transphobia? You are effed in the head with that take.
#47 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Shut up transphobe.

The fathers actions were out of line.

The school district followed protocol.

The only reason this case is getting any attention is because of transphobia.

If it's not, then perhaps you can tell me why no other sexual assaults are being covered? Why other fathers haven't gathered mobs and attacked PTA meetings in the past.

Actions like gathering mobs were more common in the past when it was a Black boy and a White girl.

Go look at yourself in a mirror. You'll see a transphobic person whose ability to reason is being clouded by hate.

#49 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-11 04:41 PM | Reply

#49. I'm done with your stupid trolling.

#50 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-09-11 04:56 PM | Reply

I bet.

Easier than admitting this is being blown out of proportion because there's a possibility the assailant is transgender.

It's everyone else who's wrong.

#51 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-11 05:13 PM | Reply

That comment was in response to Sycophant flatly stating that this kid isn't transgender. As long as the kid wasn't violating school dress code I don't care what the kid was wearing.

#40 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

The kid wasn't transgender. He wore a skirt as some sort of stupid childhood rebellion. He didn't identify as female.

This has NOTHING to do with transgender people or the transgender bathroom rule.

The trans bathroom rule wasn't in place at the time.
And he was her BOYFRIEND.
They had actually done this TWICE before in the bathroom.
She went in the bathroom with him willing initially.

What happened to her is wrong. You and the GOP trying to pretend this is a Trans issue is also wrong.

#52 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-09-11 05:16 PM | Reply

The pardon of a father who was arrested when trying to hold a school board accountable for their cover up of his daughter being sexually assaulted is transphobia? You are effed in the head with that take.

#47 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

The school didn't cover anything up. The kid was charged and pled guilty. The school can't comment on it.

The school had no legal ability to bar him from going to a different school in the district before he was found guilty. The superintendent said it himself in asking for laws to be changed.

The father wanted to make this a Trans issue about the bathroom rules. He threatened other parents at the school meeting. That's why he was arrested.

Trans had literally NOTHING to do with it.

#53 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-09-11 05:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" What happened to her is wrong. You and the GOP trying to pretend this is a Trans issue is also wrong.

#52 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2023-09-11 05:16 PM | FLAG: "

The school was pushing a trans bathroom rule. When asked if they had any bathroom incidents reported they said no. THAT was the real problem and it's why her dad showed up at the PTA meeting. From what I recall he started raising his voice only after a woman, presumably with purple hair, to his face accused his daughter of being a liar.

#54 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-09-11 06:02 PM | Reply

When asked about whether any incidents had been reported the school had an absolute obligation to answer truthfully. They didn't have to release specifics or anything. Just answer the question yes or no.

#55 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-09-11 06:03 PM | Reply

When asked about whether any incidents had been reported the school had an absolute obligation to answer truthfully.

Citation necessary that they were obligated to make any statement at all.

#56 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-11 06:05 PM | Reply

" The father wanted to make this a Trans issue about the bathroom rules. He threatened other parents at the school meeting. That's why he was arrested"

His daughter was sexually assaulted by a male in the girls bathroom. Imposing a rule that any male can claim to be trans and have unfettered access to those spaces surely was what was in his mind.

Do you possess the empathy that a father might have adrenieline and emotions running high after his daughter was sexually assaulted in a girls bathroom at school?

This is a situation where a prosecutor should exercise some discretion and not go through with charges.

#57 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-09-11 06:07 PM | Reply

Trans had literally NOTHING to do with it.
#53 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT

Hasn't stopped the GOP from framing it as a trans issue.

They know it's gonna get transphobic voters to support their demagoguery.

#58 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-11 06:09 PM | Reply

His daughter was sexually assaulted by a male in the girls bathroom. Imposing a rule that any male can claim to be trans and have unfettered access to those spaces surely was what was in his mind.

You are a dumb fkkking, transphobic, piece of shht.

#59 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-11 06:11 PM | Reply

His daughter was sexually assaulted by a male in the girls bathroom.

Has nothing to do with whether transgender people should have access the bathroom of their preference.

The rest of your emotional dump belongs in the trash.

#60 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-11 06:15 PM | Reply

" You are a dumb fkkking, transphobic, piece of shht.

#59 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2023-09-11 06:11 PM | FLAG: "

Had the rule passed what would stop any boy claiming to be trans from entering girls bathrooms?

#61 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-09-11 06:45 PM | Reply

Sy,

"The kid was charged and pled guilty."

After the father exposed the school administration for transferring the boy to cover up the attack.

The point for me is this shows the conflict between parental rights and public schools arrogance.

#62 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-09-11 06:50 PM | Reply

what would stop any boy claiming to be trans from entering girls bathrooms?

Being a boy.

Not being into sexual assault.

Being raised correctly.

What's preventing you from breaking into the girl's bathroom?

The law??

Cause, holy shht man.

If that the only reason you're not raping women, you're fkkked!

#63 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-11 06:50 PM | Reply

Clown,

Thanks to liberal madness the boy believed himself entitled to enter girls bathrooms.

#64 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-09-11 06:53 PM | Reply

After the father exposed the school administration for transferring the boy to cover up the attack.

They weren't covering up anything.

Odd how you and BellRinger post the same debunked claims.

Over and over again.

~I>The point for me is this shows the conflict between parental rights and public schools arrogance.
#62 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

The father has all the rights in the world to pursue legal action.

The daughter knows the assailant.

Go hire a lawyer.

Bill. Stop excusing the fathers actions.

The mob is inexcusable.

Despite your best efforts to ignore and excuse it.

#65 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-11 06:55 PM | Reply

Thanks to liberal madness the boy believed himself entitled to enter girls bathrooms.
#64 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

You are re tar did.

#66 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-11 06:58 PM | Reply

#63 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

One reason would be shame, the girls in the bathroom would be justified in trying to kick the boy out. Without any repercussions later, unlike the type of backlash Riley Gaines is suffering from.

Shame in healthy doses keeps civilization together, without it, as you state "law" directly doesn't matter. Just being civil and enforcing civility, something you seem to know very little about.

#67 | Posted by oneironaut at 2023-09-11 07:40 PM | Reply

The father has all the rights in the world to pursue legal action.

Only a civil lawsuit, but not criminal.

What law was broken?

#68 | Posted by oneironaut at 2023-09-11 07:42 PM | Reply

Sy,
"The kid was charged and pled guilty."
After the father exposed the school administration for transferring the boy to cover up the attack.
The point for me is this shows the conflict between parental rights and public schools arrogance.

#62 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

I'm beginning to come around on the bill is a jerkj sockpuppet since they make the exact same lying argument.

The school did not transfer the boy to "cover up the attack"

The school is an educational organization NOT a law enforcement organization.

The boy is entitled to a. an education. b. privacy. c. due process

The school, as part of normal process, transferred him out of the school where he was accused of the 1st assault. Since the School is a School and the child still has the right to a. an education. b. privacy and c. due process. the School did not publish his name, or expel him from school (I am assuming the school he was transferred to is for children with behavioral issues, as that is how it would be handled in my state).

I am curious as to what you think the school should have done instead? Kicked him out of school? Then what? Guess what, public schools have a legal obligation to educate all students. Then what? Do an announcement at an assembly that little johnny is accused of a sexual assault? IN what way was the school arrogant?

Put some meat on your "assertions", and try to prove your not just a hateful bigot.

#69 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-09-11 08:12 PM | Reply

Clown,

"Stop excusing the fathers actions."

I don't know if your problem is you're a liberal or just sort of mental.

My vote is on mental.

#70 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-09-11 08:13 PM | Reply

What law was broken?
#68 | POSTED BY ONENUT

Assault.

Specifically sexual assault.

It's not illegal for a man to enter a woman's restroom.

It's illegal to assault someone. Regardless of location.

Like Sycophant pointed out. The issue is the assault.

The rest of it, is politics.

Specifically transphobia.

#71 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-11 08:31 PM | Reply

I don't know
#70 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

You should have just stopped there.

Because that's the only correct thing you've posted this entire thread.

#72 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-11 08:32 PM | Reply

bill is a jerkj sockpuppet

There are so many similarities in their posting habits, their debate tactics, their trolling style, their threats and their incessant lying, it seems highly likely.

#73 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-11 08:35 PM | Reply

"The father ... threatened other parents at the school meeting."

Note: folks purposely misrepresenting what happened always skip over this fact.

#74 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-11 10:13 PM | Reply

@#74 ... Note: folks purposely misrepresenting what happened always skip over this fact.

From #38 ...

... ... According to Loudoun Now, Smith threatened to kick out the teeth of deputies who dragged him away from a Loudoun County School Board meeting over state-mandated protections for transgender students.

The local news outlet reported that he had argued loudly, clenched his fist and sworn at a woman while demanding answers over the handling of his daughter's assault. ... ...


Assault charges for Mr Smith?


#75 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-11 10:40 PM | Reply

What law was broken?

The law for which the Governor issued the pardon.

#76 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-09-11 10:41 PM | Reply

" The school is an educational organization NOT a law enforcement organization."

Apply that to the "dear colleague" letter sent out to all public colleges under your hero Obama that turned allegations of sexual assault into kangaroo courts against the accused. Biden has been trying to revise it,BTW. No due process of any kind and quite a number of these students sued for defamation among other things and ultimately won in court but not after suffering years of being ostracized and having their budding adult lives upended. In this case forensic evidence and a court case proved actual sexual assault.

In a vacuum your arguments aren't terrible but we don't live in a vacuum and clearly see the blatant double standard misogynist leftists like you employ.

Prior to due process the boy was entitled to privacy and presumption of responsibility innocence. By the same token the girl made serious allegations and forensic evidence backed up her allegations from a physical standpoint and he was ruled guilty in a court of law.

The school board is complicit. Not that they were responsible for the act itself but for how it was handled afterward.

As an ancillary I love how lefty apologists LOVE to point out that they were boyfriend/girlfriend which means because they had engaged in some of this before that it somehow exonerates this boy. These very same people will screech that Donald Trump raped Marla Maples, his then wife.

#77 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-09-12 03:09 AM | Reply

" The father ... threatened other parents at the school meeting."

Note: folks purposely misrepresenting what happened always skip over this fact.

#74 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2023-09-11 10:13 PM | FLAG: "

Let's play a little game of what if ... ...

You are a father. Your 14 year old daughter comes home from school extremely distraught and after a very excruciating story about being sexually assaulted in the girls restroom at school. Think about just how that must have been by itself. Then the daughter goes through the invasive process of physically confirming her allegations, albeit only from a physical standpoint - a lack of consent was later determined in court. At the same time the school is pushing a new policy to allow males unfettered access to the girl spaces and when asked if they had any instances of situations just like this the school board lied.

Now, put on your empathy hat - dad watches this all unfold and goes to a meeting to confront the school board. When he does so a woman accuses his daughter of lying to his face.

The police tried to gently remove him and he resisted and they got physical but professionally subdued him and removed him.

Here is the thing- it all should have ended with that. The prosecutor should have dropped the case with a could have minor concessions from dad. But, nope. Prosecutor moved forward and the governor stepped in.

It never should have remotely reached this point.

#78 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-09-12 03:24 AM | Reply

@#78 ... The police tried to gently remove him and he resisted ..

He didn't merely resist.

He was reported to have assaulted them.

From #38...

... Smith threatened to kick out the teeth of deputies ...

Sooo... what else is your current alias apparently gonna lie about?

#79 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-12 03:34 AM | Reply

@#78 ... It never should have remotely reached this point. ...

I agree.

It should have never gotten to the point where Mr Smith seemed to start assaulting the police and others in the room.

But, apparently he did, per the reporting.



#80 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-12 03:37 AM | Reply

The point for me is this shows the conflict between parental rights and public schools arrogance.
#62 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

What parental rights?
What are parental rights?
Show me a list.

#81 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-12 07:40 AM | Reply

" POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER AT 2023-09-12 03:34 AM | FLAG: "

I rewatched the video yesterday. He did shove a cop and then was tackled to the ground. I thought the police conduct was appropriate.

#82 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-09-12 10:30 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

" The police tried to gently remove him "

Before or after he threatened the decision-makers with bodily harm?

And isn't that the salient part? Isn't that WHY the word "terrorism" was used? The guy was threatening violence against the folks appointed/elected to make the decisions, with the goal of changing public policy.

That's the textbook definition of terrorism.

Why did you leave out the most important part?!?

#83 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-12 10:31 AM | Reply

Can your current alias address the same thing her points I raised? Not holding my breath.

#84 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-09-12 10:31 AM | Reply

I hate my phone - can your current alias adddress the other points I raised?

#85 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-09-12 10:32 AM | Reply

#83 a dad loses his cool and that makes him a domestic terrorist?

"I'm gonna kick your ass!" is something you might frequently hear at a bar. And you conveniently ignore all of the other points I raised. His 14 year old daughter was sexually assaulted FFS. Are you so lacking in empathy that you're u cannot acknowledge that weighed on his frame of mind?

#86 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-09-12 10:37 AM | Reply

-can your current alias adddress the other points I raised?

His current alias can't imagine being this father in this situation.

Easier to attack him and call you...wait..I meant your alias a liar in the process.

#87 | Posted by eberly at 2023-09-12 10:37 AM | Reply

-Are you so lacking in empathy that you're u cannot acknowledge that weighed on his frame of mind?

probably not a parent.

oh, we have a thread on the costs of college....that's my favorite subject here where people who have NEVER paid for a college education for a kid lecturing others who HAVE paid for a college education for their kids..........this place cracks me up.

Experts everywhere.....

#88 | Posted by eberly at 2023-09-12 10:40 AM | Reply

Let's play a little game of what if ...
#78 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

That's pretty much what all your posts are since you aggressively ignore reality.

No matter what you post it doesn't change the facts.

You know what facts are?

Not based on your posts.

Facts:

One student assaulted another.

The school district followed protocol.

The father hired a mob looking for a fight.

This has been explained to you. Several times. You ignore it and post nothing but emotional nonsense about feelings.

Fkkk your feelings.

The school acted accordingly.

End of story.

#89 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-12 11:51 AM | Reply

What are parental rights?
#81 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Apparently, it's the right to form a mob and attack the school board.

#90 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-12 11:54 AM | Reply

I thought the police conduct was appropriate.
#82 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

This post brought to you by the same poster who supports cops shooting Black people in the back.

#91 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-12 11:56 AM | Reply

I thought the police conduct was appropriate.
#82 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

The conduct where they abridged his Parental Rights?

#92 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-12 11:56 AM | Reply

Are you so lacking in empathy that your u cannot acknowledge that weighed on his frame of mind?

WTF does empathy have to do with it?

Oh, I see. The father is White and a Republican.

Let's give him all sorts of considerations for breaking the law we wouldn't afford others.

Thanks for your double standards.

Hypocrite.

#93 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-12 11:57 AM | Reply

"Are you so lacking in empathy..."

Are you so laking in common sense? You're an apologist for the guy who premeditated the threats, to the point of enlisting others.

You know...the terroristic part of terrorism.

#94 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-12 12:03 PM | Reply

His current alias can't imagine being this father in this situation.
#87 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Eberly, being a father, one of only two on the DR apparently, based on that statement.

Would have definitely gathered an irate mob to attack the PTA meeting.

He wouldn't have hired a lawyer to seek legal recourse.

Or gone and talked with school administrators to figure out the full scope of action.

No. He would have gotten really angry at the school board and would have taken a mob of angry people with him to get justice.

What's the justice you'd be seeking by taking such actions?

Beat up the principal?

Find the kid who assaulted your daughter and lynch him?

Tell me Eberly, only father on the DR, what were you seeking when you took a mob of angry people to the PTA meeting with you?

#95 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-12 12:25 PM | Reply

95

maybe try again with less anger this time, clown. I really have no clue what you are saying.

#96 | Posted by eberly at 2023-09-12 05:39 PM | Reply

I really have no clue what you are saying.
#96 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Find someone to explain it to you.

#97 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-12 09:33 PM | Reply

that could be you but you can't.

too much anger

#98 | Posted by eberly at 2023-09-12 09:55 PM | Reply

He wouldn't have hired a lawyer to seek legal recourse.

You keep saying this, but WHAT legal recourse does the father have?

Or gone and talked with school administrators to figure out the full scope of action.

He did.

Find the kid who assaulted your daughter and lynch him?

Thats not what he was doing he was expecting the authorities to act.

But they didn't they hid and sent the child to another school. Trangender comes up in this because if it wasn't a transgender student, they would have had his ass in a sling.

You claim its NOT about transgender, but then defend sexual harassment against a young girl by a young man.

Oh its about transgender alright.

#99 | Posted by oneironaut at 2023-09-12 10:16 PM | Reply

WHAT legal recourse does the father have?

You asked this up thread and I answered it.

Let's try again. Dumb dumb.

His daughter was assaulted. Sexually.

What's the legal recourse for assault. Sexual. Look it up genius.

he was expecting the authorities to act.

Not without filing assault charges. With the cops. With a lawyer.

they hid

The school? With camouflage?

The kid? In witness protection??

Wtf are you lying for.

sent the child to another school.

So, they followed protocol.

its about transgender alright.
#99 | POSTED BY ONENUT

Because that's good politics.

Makes idiots, like you, fall in line.

#100 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-12 10:27 PM | Reply

too much anger
#98 | POSTED BY EBERLY

And you've only been back a few days.

#101 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-12 10:28 PM | Reply

It's not the schools responsibility to take legal action for the father.

It the assailant was a teacher, then the school would be culpable.

#102 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-12 10:30 PM | Reply

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