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Abbott is an incompetent grand stander but that's what MAGA wants, and what he thinks is needed to personally get ahead.
#1 | Posted by Zed at 2023-09-12 01:52 PM | Reply
Abbott and the Texas Legislature have an 18B surplus. Is California able to say the same? Nope.
#2 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2023-09-12 10:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 1
California #2 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES
California derangement syndrome.
#3 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-12 10:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
"Abbott and the Texas Legislature have an 18B surplus."
It was $28B before they grifted $10B of it to themselves with this program.
#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-12 10:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Texas has the best electric grid in the US except for when it is needed the most like when it's hot or cold.
I'm sure the people freezing to death are happy about the budget surplus.
#5 | Posted by Nixon at 2023-09-13 07:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3
You're right stunod. California has a $55 Billion surplus so they wouldn't bother rolling out of bed for .33 on the dollar of what they have that Texas can only dream about.
As a result, in the last two years, the state saw historic budget surpluses -- including $47 billion in 202122 and $55 billion in 202223.
#6 | Posted by tonyroma at 2023-09-13 08:04 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 7
Texas has the best electric grid in the US except for when it is needed the most like when it's hot or cold. I'm sure the people freezing to death are happy about the budget surplus.
#5 | POSTED BY NIXON AT 2023-09-13 07:59 AM | FLAG:
There's a price to pay when the energy production expansion is heavily invested in wind generation without enough gas generated backup. It's worth the trade off that sometimes the wind doesn't blow as fast as is needed.
#7 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-09-13 09:42 AM | Reply
You're right stunod. California has a $55 Billion surplus
#6 | POSTED BY TONYROMA AT 2023-09-13 08:04 AM | FLAG:
Had. Had a surplus. They spent it.
California's new budget covers $32 billion deficit while extending tax credits for film industry
"The nation's most populous state has had combined budget surpluses of well over $100 billion in the past few years, enabling the Democrats in charge to greatly expand government.
But this year, revenues slowed as inflation soared and the stock market struggled. California gets most of its revenue from taxes paid by the wealthy, making it more vulnerable to changes in the economy than other states. Last month, the administration of Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom estimated the state's spending would exceed revenues by over $30 billion."
#8 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-09-13 09:44 AM | Reply
"Abbott and the Texas Legislature have an 18B surplus. Is California able to say the same? Nope."
That's nice but how many Texans still go without health insurance because the Governor's irrational and ideological opposition to Medicaid expansion just because that black guy got the ACA (Obamacare) passed which is working very well in most states. The ACA has been helping people in most states for over 13 years and your pokitical hacks still block some very jmportant provisions of it from being available to poor Texans.
#9 | Posted by danni at 2023-09-13 10:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
Texas Governor Defends Abortion Law, Saying State Will 'Eliminate All Rapists' September 8, 20219:41 AM ET
www.npr.org
How's Abbott's claim that Texas will eliminate rapes?
www.usatoday.com
Body of strangled 11-year-old Texas girl found hidden under bed after sex assault, police say
Texas ranks 2nd in the nation in the number of rapes for 2023.
#10 | Posted by Nixon at 2023-09-13 10:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3
Had. Had a surplus. They spent it. California's new budget covers $32 billion deficit while extending tax credits for film industry "The nation's most populous state has had combined budget surpluses of well over $100 billion in the past few years, enabling the Democrats in charge to greatly expand government. But this year, revenues slowed as inflation soared and the stock market struggled. California gets most of its revenue from taxes paid by the wealthy, making it more vulnerable to changes in the economy than other states. Last month, the administration of Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom estimated the state's spending would exceed revenues by over $30 billion."
#8 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG
Your article says revenue decreased due to inflation and the market stock.
So California cut its spending to cover the deficit.
When they had a surplus, it was re-invested in the state. That's what governments are supposed to do.
It sounds like the state is being run responsibly.
#11 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-09-13 11:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
Sounds like deficit spending to me there Syco lol
#12 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2023-09-13 11:42 AM | Reply
It's nice that ya'll are so worried about California's budget.
But we got this this.
Maybe if you really want to worry you should worry about New Jersey.
And if you have any left over worry about Massachusetts, Hawaii, Kentucky, Maryland and New York, Connecticut, and Delaware.
All running deficits.
Meanwhile we will continue to chug along as the 5th largest economy in the world with a GDP of $3.6T.
And today looks like a great day to do tai chi on the beach.
#13 | Posted by donnerboy at 2023-09-13 12:11 PM | Reply
But you're number 1 in poverty there Donner. That's precisely why we are concerned.
#14 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2023-09-13 01:03 PM | Reply
Had. Had a surplus. They spent it. California's new budget covers $32 billion deficit #8 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG
You have to give Rump credit for something.
He hoped Covid would hurt California, and he succeeded.
The shortsightedness of Republicans wanting to see California fail, is akin to someone hoping a vital organ fails.
Not realizing if California fails. So does America's economy.
Not realizing every organ in the body works, because they're all working.
#15 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-13 03:13 PM | Reply
But you're number 1 in poverty there Donner. #14 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES
He is?
Fascinating.
Thanks for sharing.
#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-13 03:14 PM | Reply
No clownshack, California is #1 in poverty. Way to go guys!
www.ocregister.com
#17 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2023-09-13 03:27 PM | Reply
The country of California?
We function in a vacuum?
California Derangement Syndrome has completely rotted your brain.
Way to go!
#18 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-13 03:41 PM | Reply
I am not rich but i definitely ain't #1 in poverty.
We here in California are number one in many things. Because we have a very large population that wants to live here. Not all of those things are good things. A small percentage of the population here is a very large number. But you knew that.
And if you were really concerned you and your fellow republicans would support more programs to help them. But you don't. Tax cuts for the wealthy are way more important to republicans than helping the poor. Especially the poor in California.
But anyway don't worry about us and our poor. If we get tired of them can just ship them to Texas or Florida. That's how we treat our people problems now right? We ship them to other states.
#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2023-09-13 04:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
California has very strong social services for the poor.
You're better off being poor in California than anyone else in the United States, in my opinion.
#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-13 04:10 PM | Reply
No clownshack, California is #1 in poverty. Way to go guys! www.ocregister.com
Also ... If you look at percentage of populations California is no where near #1. Even your article shows that. Grudgingly.
en.m.wikipedia.org
From your article:
The nationwide official poverty rate released on Tuesday is 11.5% and California's is virtually identical at 11.4%. Other states range from as high as 18.3% in New Mexico to as low as 7.1% in neighboring Utah " an anomaly that itself should warrant deeper investigation.
Both Mississippi and Louisiana are around 19% so your statement isn't even correct. There are many states that have a higher percentage of poverty than California.
I would take anything that comes from Orange County with a grain of salt. Maybe a whole salt lick.
#21 | Posted by donnerboy at 2023-09-13 04:12 PM | Reply
There's the Supplemental Poverty Level that Sitzkrieg likes to reference. Last I looked that measure has CA #1.
But being below the poverty line in National City and being below the poverty line in Shreveport are two very different things. For starters you're Brown in CA but you're Black in LA. That right there is a game changer.
#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-13 04:19 PM | Reply
Poverty has to be addressed as a nation. At the federal level.
Unfortunately, Republican policies to stifle minimum wage growth along with nonstop tax breaks for the rich, will ensure poverty and homelessness continue, unabated.
#23 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-13 04:23 PM | Reply
That's a hell of an expense to prevent someone from doing gardening or housekeeping, or whatever tasks Americans consider themselves to be too good for.
#24 | Posted by Jaspar at 2023-09-13 05:55 PM | Reply
Americans don't think they are too good for those jobs they would proudly do them for decent pay. Business owners would rather finance the immigration crisis than pay a living wage.
#25 | Posted by qcp at 2023-09-13 10:55 PM | Reply
#21 Donner, that's your confirmation bias. You have to use the adjusted poverty metric, the Obama admin implemented it, because the original metric does not include housing costs. California poverty goes up with its property values. California homeless are locals that lost their homes, not migrants from other states.
When snoof talks about gains to the top, California is the avatar of it.
#26 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-09-14 07:59 AM | Reply
Like Austin homeless. It's mostly people from Austin priced out. Houston homeless will go up since property values doubled since Covid but Houston has a best in the nation program to rehouse people.
#27 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-09-14 08:00 AM | Reply
And poverty is not a national phenomenon to address. It's a local housing price issue. It can only be fixed by aggressive offenses against anti growth politics.
#28 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-09-14 08:02 AM | Reply
"And poverty is not a national phenomenon to address. It's a local housing price issue."
The housing price issue would mostly go away if wages kept up with productivity.
#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-14 09:37 AM | Reply
No it wouldn't. The housing supply is constrained by politics and geography. Inflating wages means general inflation which means higher interest rates and slower housing builds, reduced ability for those on fixed income to maintain their existing homes, reduced savings value for people trying to get in homes, etc. Poverty is not solved through inflation and the negative effects of it amplify the problems.
#30 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-09-14 09:52 AM | Reply
Cali minimum wage is more than double the fed minimum wage to begin with. If you say "raise the wages", then what should it be for California? What's the # that can get you a home, without causing inflation that prevents you from getting a home?
#31 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-09-14 09:56 AM | Reply
"for those on fixed income"
That too hasn't kept up with productivity.
The economy that leaves 80% of households behind obviously isn't going to result in housing that is affordable for those 80% of households.
#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-14 09:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
"If you say "raise the wages", then what should it be for California?"
They should be the wages we would have gotten if wages didn't start lagging behind productivity about a half century ago.
We don't have a wage base to sustain the middle class. If we did I wouldn't have bothered trying to crack into the top tier of the two tier economy.
The middle class doesn't really have a stable future in a two-tier economy. What we are heading towards is a few very wealthy folks and a lot of poor ones. We've been heading that way for 50 years. Ever since wages started lagging behind productivity.
#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-14 10:24 AM | Reply
I think ------- to productivity is a nonsense metric. 40 years ago a car dealership's parts inventory management system was 10 people in a room with index cards. Now it's a table in a db. Based on productivity he or she is doing the job of 10 people.
You can't inflate your way out of a limited housing supply. The only saving grace for metros like Houston is radial expansion over what used to be rice paddies so it's not geographically constrained.
#34 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-09-14 10:47 AM | Reply
-I think ------- to productivity is a nonsense metric
Of course. It was dismissed as nonsense decades ago for obvious reasons.
#35 | Posted by eberly at 2023-09-14 10:51 AM | Reply
"I think ------- to productivity is a nonsense metric."
You have a better explanation for broad postwar prosperity, let's hear it.
Give us a better bullet point profile description of the postwar economy than "wages kept up with productivity."
#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-14 10:53 AM | Reply
It was dismissed as nonsense decades ago for obvious reasons. #35 | POSTED BY EBERLY
LOL.
Dismissed by whom? For what obvious reasons?
You live in a bubble.
#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-14 11:01 AM | Reply
When they had a surplus, it was re-invested in the state. That's what governments are supposed to do. It sounds like the state is being run responsibly.
#11 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2023-09-13 11:22 AM | FLAG:
We'll have to agree to disagree that living paycheck to paycheck is responsible behavior.
#38 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-09-14 02:31 PM | Reply
#38 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG
State governments aren't people. They re-invest in their state to fix problems they couldn't afford to fix before. Why do you think California has a bigger GDP than most countries?
I suppose investing in your state or country is a foreign concept to Republicans who prefer to give tax breaks to billionaires while increasing spending on corporate welfare.
#39 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-09-14 03:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Sounds like we need a border wall
#40 | Posted by THEBULL at 2023-09-14 07:20 PM | Reply
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