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Tuesday, September 12, 2023

McCarthy's decision represents a major reversal for the speaker after he told the conservative website Breitbart earlier this month that he wouldn't open an impeachment inquiry without a vote of the full House.

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lol. Go Get 'im!

Is this really what GOP has disintegrated into?

#1 | Posted by moder8 at 2023-09-12 05:35 PM | Reply

Yeah that's how impeachments should be handled - without a vote, upon threats from insurrectionists who begged for pardons.

#2 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-09-12 05:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

How is this different from what they were already doing?

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2023-09-12 05:55 PM | Reply

Cowards.

Why are Republicans so afraid of democracy?

#4 | Posted by donnerboy at 2023-09-12 06:20 PM | Reply

Perhaps the utter lack of evidence is why they don't have the votes.

#5 | Posted by bus_driver at 2023-09-12 06:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

This will end up nackfiring on the GQP

#6 | Posted by danni at 2023-09-12 06:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is certainly a prudent use of the taxpayers money.

#7 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2023-09-12 06:52 PM | Reply

They should drug test the GOP before giving them this Welfare.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-12 06:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

They'll vote him guilty just like in To Kill A Mockingbird.

Coincidentally, Republicans love banning that book. Year in and year out. Probably because it so effectively exposes how their racist M.O. functions.

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-12 07:50 PM | Reply

Zero evidence, zero morality...

A party of thugs out to exact revenge,
because, 'you did it to our guy!'

Differwnce was, loads of proof...

#10 | Posted by earthmuse at 2023-09-12 08:21 PM | Reply

How is this different from what they were already doing?

#3 | POSTED BY ZED

It's not, but they are trying to make it look like they are doing something, to appease the Orange ---- fart and his base of dummies.

#11 | Posted by a_monson at 2023-09-12 08:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

How is this different from what they were already doing?
#3 | POSTED BY ZED

If you don't know the difference, you should shut up.

#12 | Posted by oneironaut at 2023-09-12 08:36 PM | Reply

#12 | Posted by oneironaut

If you can explain, please do.

#13 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2023-09-12 09:05 PM | Reply

If you can explain, please do.

The difference is the purpose of this one is for McCarthy to keep his job.

#14 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-09-12 09:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Rwingers kept talking about the other guy's political investigations being partisan... to set up acceptance of their own totally partisan, true witch hunt.

And when they are totally inept and unable to come up with any real reason for impeachment, they'll pretend they never tried to impeach anyone.

As will their lemmings.

#15 | Posted by Corky at 2023-09-12 09:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Perhaps they could open a concurrent inquiry to determine the role of Hillary Clinton in the Libyan flooding?

#16 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-09-12 09:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

When Republicans first went crazy in 1994 and impeached Bill Clinton over a--------, the public hated them for it. Clinton won reelection handily.

The GOP aren't offering Morning In America. That's gonna hurt them bad come next November. As will abortion and the fact they have absolutely nothing to offer but laughable rhetoric and chaos.

#18 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2023-09-12 10:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In 2020, Trump's DOJ issued a binding legal opinion that impeachment inquiries are not valid unless the House votes to authorize them.

Speaker McCarthy at the time also argued that an impeachment inquiry requires a House vote.

So Pelosi held a House vote. McCarthy will have to do the same or the Federal agencies he wishes to subpoena are legally bound by the DOJ opinion to not respond.

OOPS.

#19 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-09-13 12:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"This will end up backfiring on the GQP
#6 | POSTED BY DANNI"

No - this is the backfiring of the Dems for their 2 ridiculous impeachments of Trump. Biden is dirty and will either step away from office or be outed as a 50 year criminal using his political office to grift. We all know this is true.

#20 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-09-13 03:43 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

50 year criminal

#20 | POSTED BY CLAUDIO

You are, of course, describing Donald Trump.

You people are asked to provide evidence rather than wet dreams. This, of course, is too much for you. More than that, not who you are. It's not so much that you're stupid as nasty.

And, by the way, Donald Trump is going to prison.

#21 | Posted by Zed at 2023-09-13 07:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

McCarthy was required to do this when the Biden tegime in government refused to provide subpoenaed info such as details on SARS bank reports. How else will the wrongs be exposed? Surely even Democrats would want truth. Where did the millions go and why did family get paid? For starters.

#22 | Posted by Robson at 2023-09-13 07:39 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

refused to provide subpoenaed info such as details on SARS bank reports.

#22 | POSTED BY ROBSON

Why shouldn't the GOP have to go through years of court cases for this sort of information, the way Trump showed us how?

The more galling aspects of this include:

1) The GOP mantra that Donald Trump was somehow not a criminal

2) The GOP insistence that only Donald Trump gets to resist legal inquiries.

#23 | Posted by Zed at 2023-09-13 07:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

How else will the wrongs be exposed?

#22 | POSTED BY ROBSON

I see no difference between what MAGA is doing now and what it has been trying to do to Biden for the last two years.

Maybe you could enlighten me? No evidence after two years. Evidence that there IS NO evidence for the last two years.

Frankly, McCarthy is just trying to throw a bone to his most rabid dogs. An attempt to get you people off his back.

Trump has caught ninety-one felony cases because of his behavior as president.

He's going to prison, a place where he will die a gibbering old man.

#24 | Posted by Zed at 2023-09-13 07:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Perhaps the utter lack of evidence is why they don't have the votes.

Posted by bus_driver at 2023-09-12 06:24 PM |

That's exactly why.

This move by Qevin was done to placate the idiot caucus (Gaetz, Sporkfoot, HoneyBoBo, Santos, etc) who are following the playbook of READY!, FIRE!, AIM!.

I listed to Qevin's announcement and he very carefully tiptoed around the lack of evidence in his announcement and based the impeachment on ALLEGATIONS only.

This will bite them in the ass.

#25 | Posted by Nixon at 2023-09-13 08:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is about crooked Joe "big guy" Biden who stole the 2020 election by a corrupt deep state and big media. They purposely kept all the evidence of Biden wrongdoing on the Biden laptop hidden from public prior to election. That gave Biden the election.

The proof that our country is in trouble and Dems and MSM are corrupt is evident when they are OK with this. They should be pushing for this inquiry.

#26 | Posted by Robson at 2023-09-13 08:49 AM | Reply | Funny: 3

Joe Biden is innocent until proven guilty.

Unless he's a republican and / or named Trump

then it's "F" the law and equal justice.

#27 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2023-09-13 10:10 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

McCarthy has botched this so bad. He clearly doesn't have the votes to launch an actual impeachment inquiry. He could have used this opportunity to strike a budget deal with Dems that actually reflects some GOP priorities (whatever those are at this point) while taking the legs out from under the MAGATS threatening his leadership job. Rejecting the traitors would have won more support among the less radical members of his own caucus and he could have traded his pledge to deny the calls for inquiry in exchange for budget concessions and Dem support to protect him from any attempt to remove him.
By granting the inquiry he has given Dems a great choice. They can run on this next year to help their effort to defeat the swing district GOP members or they can use it right now to change the entire dynamics of power in the republican party by reaching out to those vulnerable GOP members to unseat McCarthy and promoting a more moderate, perhaps even bipartisan, leadership slate.

#28 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2023-09-13 10:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The proof that our country is in trouble

#26 | POSTED BY ROBSON

Is you, ROBSON.

If the "deep state and corrupt media" stole the election for Biden in 2020, then why is Trump even running now?

What do you think has changed, O Master of Logic?

#29 | Posted by Zed at 2023-09-13 10:22 AM | Reply

Joe Biden is innocent until proven guilty.

Unless he's a republican and / or named Trump

#27 | POSTED BY SHRIMPTACODAN

Trump has already been proven guilty many times. That's how we know that he's a confidence man and a rapist.

#30 | Posted by Zed at 2023-09-13 10:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"innocent until proven guilty. Unless he's a republican and / or named Trump then it's "F" the law and equal justice."

You're such a sap.

If you or I were accused, we'd be rotting in jail until trial, with no hope of bail.

Is that what you want, or are you proposing a two-tiered justice system favoring your choice of affiliation?

#31 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-13 10:28 AM | Reply

Fox News has admitted there is no evidence but that shouldn't stop impeachment.

#32 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-09-13 11:03 AM | Reply

And when they are totally inept and unable to come up with any real reason for impeachment, they'll pretend they never tried to impeach anyone.

As will their lemmings.

#15 | Posted by Corky

Oh, they'll come up with a reason.

They'll wave some documents around that don't say what they think they say and claim their conclusions are supported by "evidence."

The lemmings will repeat it and within a day the repetition will be sufficient that they'll believe it without bothering to look into it.

#33 | Posted by jpw at 2023-09-13 11:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The gop need something to balance out the Trump trials.

Politics 101.

#34 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-13 12:11 PM | Reply

the brain dead vegetable doesn't have to worry..

.he's already sent word to the democrat butt kissing state run media to cover his ---

"White House sends letter to news execs urging outlets to ramp up' scrutiny of GOP's Biden impeachment inquiry based on lies'

www.cnn.com

#35 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2023-09-13 01:25 PM | Reply

No - this is the backfiring of the Dems for their 2 ridiculous impeachments of Trump. Biden is dirty and will either step away from office or be outed as a 50 year criminal using his political office to grift. We all know this is true.

#20 | Posted by Claudio

What should happen to a president who threatens to withhold congressional approved foreign aid unless that country helps him win an election?

And then what should happen to a president who attempts a coup when they lose that election?

#36 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-09-13 01:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

the brain dead vegetable doesn't have to worry..

.he's already sent word to the democrat butt kissing state run media to cover his ---

"White House sends letter to news execs urging outlets to ramp up' scrutiny of GOP's Biden impeachment inquiry based on lies'

www.cnn.com

#35 | Posted by shrimptacodan

He should have sent that letter 3 years ago when trump was spreading his 2020 fraud conspiracies.

Funny how the news outlets that treated them seriously are paying out massive damages for those lies.

#37 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-09-13 01:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is about crooked Joe "big guy" Biden who stole the 2020 election by a corrupt deep state and big media.

#26 | Posted by Robson

You're so pathetic that you cling to lies even after the liar admitted they lied to you.

#38 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-09-13 01:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"White House sends letter to news execs urging outlets to ramp up' scrutiny of GOP's Biden impeachment inquiry based on lies'
www.cnn.com

#35 | POSTED BY SHRIMPTACODAN

What's wrong with "ramped up" scrutiny? What are you afraid of? Don't you want to know the truth? Yiu are trying to impeach a President based on conspiracies you maga maroons made up.

Sunshine is the best disinfectant for your lies.

It's a reasonable request being as how the media unleashed the Trumpy lies and disinformation Monster upon us in the first place.

FTA:

"Covering impeachment as a process story " Republicans say X, but the White House says Y " is a disservice to the American public who relies on the independent press to hold those in power accountable," Sams wrote.

"And in the modern media environment, where every day liars and hucksters peddle disinformation and lies everywhere from Facebook to Fox, process stories that fail to unpack the illegitimacy of the claims on which House Republicans are basing all their actions only serve to generate confusion, put false premises in people's feeds, and obscure the truth," Sams added.

Take a quote out of context is not very informative ... now you know the rest of the story.

#39 | Posted by donnerboy at 2023-09-13 02:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#20 ... Biden is dirty ...

I hear that assertion often by the GOP.

What I have not heard is any evidence to substantiate it.

#40 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-13 02:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

What I have not heard is any evidence to substantiate it.

Evidence?

Like the evidence of Hunter Biden's email?

That was so damning that they still haven't presented it to the public or the department of justice (2020, so it would have still been under Trump and Barr).

I regret having to inform you.

Republicans don't need evidence. Or facts or proof or reality.

They just need to believe.

It's what makes the cult so strong.

#41 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-13 02:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

you cling to lies even after the liar admitted they lied to you.
#38 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Republicans in a nutshell.

Basically why it's a waste of time to have a discussion with them.

#42 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-13 02:51 PM | Reply

#40 Try changing your news sources.

There's plenty of evidence there was a scheme to influence peddle.

Money, dinners, gifts, meetings, emails, texts, companies, whistleblowers.

The only story tying all this together the bidens. It's like you've never seen a good mob movie. They never get the boss his crimes, just taxes.

#43 | Posted by oneironaut at 2023-09-13 02:59 PM | Reply

There's plenty of evidence there was a scheme ...

Then you should be able to provide ample citations for your claim.

#44 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-13 03:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's like you've never seen a good mob movie.

Unfortunately, Republicans have seen too many movies.

#45 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-13 03:17 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

There's plenty of evidence there was a scheme to influence peddle.
Money, dinners, gifts, meetings, emails, texts, companies, whistleblowers.
The only story tying all this together the bidens. It's like you've never seen a good mob movie. They never get the boss his crimes, just taxes.

#43 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Link?

A whistleblower is only as good as their motive. So I doubt if you have a credible source.

If there's so much evidence, why aren't house members providing it?

IF there is such evidence, the only reason I can think of to withhold it would be to NOT give Democrats enough time find another reasonable candidate before next years election. Which makes this what's good for the Party, but not for the country. IF there is no evidence, well ..either way this is a bad look for House Republicans. I guess we'll really find out after Primary season.

Remember all the BENGHAZI!! hearings that produced absolutely nothing? When do Republicans do the actual work of the nation?

#46 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2023-09-13 03:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Money, dinners, gifts, meetings, emails, texts, companies, whistleblowers."

Oh noes!

After the corruption of the Trumpy Error your hypocrisy is showing.

Please Rigger go ahead. Waste your time and energy impeaching Joe Biden. It has less than a snowballs chance in hell of achieving want you want.

And at least then maybe the poor, the sick, women, blacks, immigrants, LGBTQs and anyone who wants to read books in a library and anyone else the hateful GOP has labeled as The Other can go unharrassed for the next year or so.

This Congress can't even fund the government without acrimony. There is no chance they possibly impeach a president.

The Dems probably got as close as anyone will ever come to impeaching and removing a sitting President.

#47 | Posted by donnerboy at 2023-09-13 03:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

There's plenty of evidence there was a scheme to influence peddle.

Money, dinners, gifts, meetings, emails, texts, companies, whistleblowers.

#43 | Posted by oneironaut

Can you tell us approximately what day you started caring about those things?

#48 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-09-13 03:59 PM | Reply

@#43 ... There's plenty of evidence there was a scheme to influence peddle. ...

Yet none of that plethora of evidence ever seems to be presented.

Indeed, the GOP has said the purpose of the investigation is to find evidence.

So even the GOP disagrees.



#49 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-13 04:48 PM | Reply

#40 Try changing your news sources.
There's plenty of evidence there was a scheme to influence peddle.
Money, dinners, gifts, meetings, emails, texts, companies, whistleblowers.
The only story tying all this together the bidens. It's like you've never seen a good mob movie. They never get the boss his crimes, just taxes.

#43 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Fox News says there is no evidence.

Try that source.

#50 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-09-13 04:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The only evidence republicans have are wants, feels, and supposed revenge.

#51 | Posted by memyselfini at 2023-09-13 06:14 PM | Reply

"The only evidence republicans have are wants, feels, and supposed revenge."

In other words, the Republicans have an overwhelming amount of evidence!

#52 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-13 06:32 PM | Reply

Between texts and emails obtained, several whistleblower testimonies obtained, witness testimonies like Archer, etc, plenty of evidence exists that appear to show Biden's VP powers and actions were leveraged with foreign oligarchs with close ties to their governments to secure tens of millions to Hunter Biden which were allegedly distributed through roughly 10 shell companies. The House investigation was making traction. Then Garland appoints Weiss as Special Counsel even though the statute requires special counsel to be someone outside of government which Weiss is not. Further this is the same Weiss that offered such a ridiculous plea deal to Hunter Biden that it fell apart after 3 hours of the judge poking holes into it. Now further House inquiries would be stonewalled, "We can't reveal any of that. It's under special counsel investigation. Given the backdrop of this particular special counsel and how the DOJ has been politicized in general under Garland, the only card the House had to get more information independently is an impeachment inquiry. In the absence of special counsel impeachment inquiry wouldnt be necessary at this time.

#53 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-09-13 07:25 PM | Reply

SO many words, so little beef.

All the Hearings on these trumped up charges turned into laugh fests when the "witnesses" turned out to have no actual evidence whatsoever.

Of course, evidence is optional for wingnuts.

#54 | Posted by Corky at 2023-09-13 08:14 PM | Reply

" witness testimonies like Archer"

Tell me your news sources suck without using those specific words.

Archer very clearly testified in the years he'd overheard conversations between Joe and Hunter, they NEVER talked business.

Who is telling you Archer testified otherwise?

#55 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-13 08:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"plenty of evidence exists"

Then show us some.

#56 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-13 08:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Then Garland appoints Weiss as Special Counsel even though the statute requires special counsel to be someone outside of government which Weiss is not. Further this is the same Weiss that offered such a ridiculous plea deal to Hunter Biden that it fell apart after 3 hours of the judge poking holes into it.

#53 | Posted by BellRinger

I guess trump is involved with this conspiracy too since he picked Weiss.

Maybe dems should have investigated a democrat to investigate like trump did during russiagate. Maybe biden should fire the AG until he finds one that will protect him like trump did.

#57 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-09-13 09:16 PM | Reply

*maybe dems should have SELECTED a democrat to investigate trump like republicans did during russiagate

#58 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-09-13 09:16 PM | Reply

Archer very clearly testified in the years he'd overheard conversations between Joe and Hunter, they NEVER talked business.

Who is telling you Archer testified otherwise?

Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-13 08:23 PM | Reply

Any one of the russian owned propagandists on OAN.

#59 | Posted by Nixon at 2023-09-14 07:55 AM | Reply

There's plenty of evidence there was a scheme to influence peddle.
Money, dinners, gifts, meetings, emails, texts, companies, whistleblowers.

Even Qevin in his announce said there was no EVIDENCE and it was all ALLEGATIONS.

If there was evidence, he would have said evidence, but he didn't because there is none.

Full stop.

Qevin is doing this because it is what fivehead, sporkfoot and honeybobo want and they being the children that they are, threatened to remove him as speaker if he didn't do this.

This entire scenario was preordained when he traded the speaker gavel for a change to the rules from requiring five members to remove the speaker to only ONE member removing the speaker. He was either too stupid to see this coming or just didn't care.

#60 | Posted by Nixon at 2023-09-14 08:00 AM | Reply

plenty of evidence exists

#53 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

You people lie when telling the truth would save your lives.

Now, why is that exactly?

Character flaw? Mental illness? Getting paid off?

All of the above?

#61 | Posted by Zed at 2023-09-14 08:38 AM | Reply

Between texts and emails obtained, several whistleblower testimonies obtained, witness testimonies like Archer, etc, plenty of evidence exists that appear to show Biden's VP powers and actions were leveraged with foreign oligarchs with close ties to their governments to secure tens of millions to Hunter Biden which were allegedly distributed through roughly 10 shell companies. The House investigation was making traction. Then Garland appoints Weiss as Special Counsel even though the statute requires special counsel to be someone outside of government which Weiss is not. Further this is the same Weiss that offered such a ridiculous plea deal to Hunter Biden that it fell apart after 3 hours of the judge poking holes into it. Now further House inquiries would be stonewalled, "We can't reveal any of that. It's under special counsel investigation. Given the backdrop of this particular special counsel and how the DOJ has been politicized in general under Garland, the only card the House had to get more information independently is an impeachment inquiry. In the absence of special counsel impeachment inquiry wouldnt be necessary at this time.

#53 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

McCarthy: "There is no evidence. The Impeachment Inquiry is to get evidence."
GOP Rep Mace: "There is no evidence. The Impeachment Inquiry is to get evidence."
GOP Centrists: "There is no evidence. We don't support the Impeachment Inquiry."
GOP House Report: "There is no evidence. We need to investigate further."
Fox News: "There is no evidence. But that doesn't matter."
Bellringer: "There's tons of evidence! Allegations without evidence are evidence, right?."

Cute special counsel riff. You idiots demand Weiss be appointed and he was.

And no, a Special Counsel doesn't have to come from outside the government. If appointed under 28 U.S.C. 509, 510, and 515, the Special Counsel can come from inside the government. You were fine with this when Durham was Special Counsel. It's only if appointed under section 600.3 do they need to be appointed from outside.
www.lawfaremedia.org

Correcting you is getting boring.

#62 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-09-14 09:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Kevin McCarthy Caught in Lie of His Own Making on Biden Impeachment
newrepublic.com

... Kevin McCarthy was called out Wednesday for not having the votes to launch an impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden, and he did not respond well.

The House speaker launched an impeachment inquiry into Biden on Tuesday, after months of the GOP insisting that the president is guilty of corruption and influence peddling overseas. Republicans have yet to produce any actual evidence of their claims.

McCarthy ordered House Republicans to proceed with the inquiry, despite promising less than two weeks ago that he would not open the probe without a vote. When CNN's Manu Raju asked him about that, McCarthy lashed out.

"You told Breitbart 12 days ago that you had the votes, so what changed?" Raju asked.

"You know what's interesting to me?" McCarthy snapped back. "I just laid out to you a lot of allegations -- so you don't care about any of the answers."...


Allegations, but still no evidence behind those allegations.


#63 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-14 10:28 AM | Reply

McCarthy: "There is no evidence. The Impeachment Inquiry is to get evidence."

He wants the bank records that they already have.

This has the bloated orange rapists finger prints all over it. He is imploding under the weight of the 91 felony charges, four indictments and the looming indictments in MI, AZ and WI that are coming. He so desperately wants to paint Biden as corrupt to polish his own turd.

The good thing is that the democrats will utterly destroy them in the inquiry hearings on cross examination.

McCarthy didn't put it up for vote because he KNEW the house would not vote for it. Until the house approves it, the white house is under no obligation to answer any requests.

#64 | Posted by Nixon at 2023-09-14 10:40 AM | Reply

@#64 ... McCarthy didn't put it up for vote because he KNEW the house would not vote for it. Until the house approves it, the white house is under no obligation to answer any requests. ...

Related...

Trump-Era Impeachment Rule Could Come Back To Bite Republicans
www.newsweek.com

... House Speaker Kevin McCarthy's bid for an impeachment inquiry into President Biden, which he announced on Tuesday, could be complicated by a Donald Trump-era Department of Justice ruling requiring this to first be approved by a floor vote. ...

This part is also interesting...

... The speaker claimed House Republicans had "serious and credible allegations into President Biden's conduct," which he argued amounted to a "culture of corruption." The GOP launched a number of committee investigations into the Biden family's business dealings, with a particular focus on alleged influence peddling by Hunter Biden, after seizing control of the House in the November 2022 midterms.

However they have struggled to uncover conclusive evidence showing Hunter's business dealing had influenced his father's policies, and until Tuesday McCarthy had been cautious about launching a full inquiry. ...


So the GOP admits it has zero evidence.

#65 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-14 10:48 AM | Reply

Just an inquiry and once they see that there is 'nothing to see here' all the impeachment talk will die. After all, after the Russian dossier was revealed as a hoax, that is what happened with trump. right?

#66 | Posted by MSgt at 2023-09-14 11:05 AM | Reply

Russiagate was no hoax.

Search that and "Forbes article".

#67 | Posted by Corky at 2023-09-14 11:22 AM | Reply

"After all, after the Russian dossier was revealed as a hoax..."

Why does every Republican get to claim ignorance as a defense?

FFS, the Republicans disagreed with you, saying that Team Trump's 100+ meetings with Russians (while they were telling YOU they had zero meetings) was a "Grave Counterintelligence Threat" to America.

That's what THE REPUBLICANS said.

What say you?

#68 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-14 11:27 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#68 you're obfuscating.

Please enumerate all Russian contacts, and their purpose.
Please put in perspective all people from foreign countries.

This contact thing is just BS.

Russiagate was a hoax. Even falsified the FISA. Really unbelievable people will cling to their own self deception.

#69 | Posted by oneironaut at 2023-09-14 11:37 AM | Reply

The Russian government interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election with the goals of harming the campaign of Hillary Clinton, boosting the candidacy of Donald Trump, and increasing political and social discord in the United States. en.wikipedia.org

That's a hoax?

#70 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-14 11:47 AM | Reply

@#66 ... Just an inquiry and once they see that there is 'nothing to see here' all the impeachment talk will die. ...

The GOP has already admitted that there is nothing to see.

Yet the impeachment talk continues...

#71 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-14 11:53 AM | Reply

@#70 ... The Russian government interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election ...

Report of the Republican-controlled Senate Intelligence Committee...

The Russian government interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election
www.intelligence.senate.gov




#72 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-14 11:58 AM | Reply

Russiagate Not a Hoax

www.forbes.com

Some people are uneducable.

#73 | Posted by Corky at 2023-09-14 01:25 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Lmao... Trump's Campaign Manager was found to be a "grave counterintelligence threat", but hey, no problemo.

If you can read the entire article and d claim that, then you might be a Cult Member.

#77 | Posted by Corky at 2023-09-14 01:49 PM | Reply

@#74 ... the report found "no evidence of collusion between President Trump and the Russians," ...

But the report did find lots of other contacts between fmr Pres trump's close circle and the Russians ...

From the link cited in #74...

... The report also found that several top members of the 2016 Trump campaign staff posed grave national security risks to the U.S. over their ties to Russia, including Trump's former 2016 campaign chair, Paul Manafort, who was a "grave counterintelligence threat" due to his contacts with a Russian intelligence officer.

Surprising fact

The report found that Trump campaign officials sought to receive "advance information about WikiLeaks' planned releases through Roger Stone," whose sentence Trump commuted last month.

It also concluded that the president's son Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law, and Manafort met with a Russian attorney with "significant connections" to the Kremlin about information that was "part of a broader influence operation targeting the United States that was coordinated, at least in part with elements of the Russian government." ...



#78 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-14 01:52 PM | Reply

the report found "no evidence of collusion between President Trump and the Russians,"
www.forbes.com

#74 | POSTED BY LOOSHFARMER

Yes, after all the evidence Trump bragged about hiding or destroying, they didn't find evidence Trump HIMSELF colluded with the Russians.

His campaign team on the other hand...very different story.

Thanks for playing.

#79 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-09-14 02:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

After all, after the Russian dossier was revealed as a hoax, that is what happened with trump. right?

#66 | Posted by MSgt

No the world's most famous liar TOLD you that russiagate was a hoax and you believed it. So I'd love to hear your theory on how trump happened to end up with a russian asset as his campaign manager, why he rewrote the GOP platform to help russia, and why that ISNT something the FBI should investigate?

#80 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-09-14 02:44 PM | Reply

Snoofy if you speak truth, why then did the impeachment fail?

#76 | Posted by looshfarmer

Because nearly your entire treasonous party thinks that courting trump's delusional base is more important than upholding their oaths of office.

#81 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-09-14 02:46 PM | Reply

Please enumerate all Russian contacts, and their purpose.
Please put in perspective all people from foreign countries.

This contact thing is just BS.

Russiagate was a hoax. Even falsified the FISA. Really unbelievable people will cling to their own self deception.

#69 | Posted by oneironaut

Dude he picked a russian asset as his CAMPAIGN MANAGER. A man he'd never met. Who had no experience running american campaings. Who charged trump NOTHING, yet was in debt to russian oligarchs for 17 million.

And you're like "nope nothing to see here"

#82 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-09-14 02:47 PM | Reply

why then did the impeachment fail?
#76 | POSTED BY LOOSHFARMER

Because the senate was controlled by republicans who were too busy burying bodies for Trump.

#83 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-09-14 02:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Please enumerate all Russian contacts, and their purpose.

#69 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Okay.

time.com

More than 100 contacts with purposes.

#84 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-09-14 04:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Comrade LOOSHFARMER joins the fray. Welcome to the DR, comrade. Where in Russia is your troll farm?

#85 | Posted by chuffy at 2023-09-14 04:14 PM | Reply

More than 100 contacts with purposes.

#84 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT

It's exhausting to repeatedly provide these people with evidence that they will never accept because it conflicts with their make-believe...but thanks for doing it.

#86 | Posted by chuffy at 2023-09-14 04:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

(while we're at it, let's bring up Tommy Tuberville, who is singlehandedly diminishing our military readiness in support of Putin's agenda)

Also, too:

Rand Paul (KY), 2018
Sen. Richard Shelby (Ala.), July 4, 2018
Steve Daines (Mont.), July 4, 2018
John Thune (S.D.), July 4, 2018
John Kennedy (La.), July 4, 2018
Jerry Moran (Kan.), July 4, 2018
John Hoeven (N.D.), July 4, 2018
Kay Granger (R-Texas), July 4, 2018

All visited Russia, maybe ONEIRONAUT can give us some insight as to what purpose those visits served for us?

#87 | Posted by chuffy at 2023-09-14 04:25 PM | Reply

As far as the timeline is concerned, this is all easily obtainable information, if you want to venture away from a Russia-supporting opinion network that poses as "news,":

Timeline here.

#88 | Posted by chuffy at 2023-09-14 04:55 PM | Reply

It's exhausting to repeatedly provide these people with evidence that they will never accept because it conflicts with their make-believe...

#86 | POSTED BY CHUFFY

Yep. One imagines them all wearing ruby slippers and clicking their heels together.

#89 | Posted by Zed at 2023-09-14 05:50 PM | Reply

@#80 ... So I'd love to hear your theory on how trump happened to end up with a russian asset as his campaign manager, why he rewrote the GOP platform to help russia ...

There seems to be more to it than that. Lemme see what I can find...

Paul Manafort Was Deep in Debt. He Saw an Opportunity in Trump. (August 2018)
www.nytimes.com

... Paul Manafort's services did not come cheap. His consulting work helped prop up foreign strongmen, who in turn kept him in $12,000 bespoke suits from Beverly Hills.

But by 2016, Mr. Manafort was broke. His longtime cash cow, the Ukrainian president Viktor F. Yanukovych, was out of office, living in exile. Mr. Manafort had $1 million in clothing debt alone, his business was hemorrhaging money and he was angling for bank loans to stay afloat.

He was in such bad shape that one of his accountants, Cynthia Laporta, who testified on Friday at Mr. Manafort's fraud trial, said she had agreed in 2015 to fraudulently lower his reported income on a tax return because she had been told he was unable to pay what he owed. She saved him about a half-million dollars in taxes.

The problems did not go away by 2016, so it was a peculiar time to volunteer his services to the Trump campaign. "I am not looking for a paid job," Mr. Manafort wrote in a memo proposing he help Donald J. Trump secure the Republican nomination for president. ...

[emphasis mine]

Was Mr Manafort being paid for his help on the Trump campaign? If so, who might be picking up the bill?


#90 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-14 06:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Retribution is not the correct reason to try and impeach a US President.

Good luck with that maga maroons.

#91 | Posted by donnerboy at 2023-09-14 06:37 PM | Reply

hahah every "russiagate was a hoax" moron vanishes the moment they're confronted with facts. But they'll return tomorrow spouting the same lies as if those facts hadn't been shown to them.

#92 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-09-14 06:47 PM | Reply

"...witness testimonies like Archer"

I'll take Another Transcript Bellringer Didn't Read for $1,600, Mayim.

#93 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-14 10:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm going to add "witness testimonies like Archer" to my list of self-exposed idiots. Similar to mentions of-

Benghazi
Lois Lerner
Burisma
Vince Foster
J6 Hearings Partisanship
Twitter Files

Nothing screams more of not reading the source than proud misrepresentations.

#94 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-14 10:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

From the Forbes article, cherry-picked by the new Russian troll:

The report"which is the committee's fifth and final"states that Putin "ordered the Russian effort to hack computer networks and accounts affiliated with the Democratic Party" with the purpose of harming the Clinton campaign, which the Russian president has long denied.

The Russian effort was aided by Wikileaks, which has also claimed that it was not the source of the hacked information; Wikileaks "likely knew it was assisting a Russian intelligence influence effort," the report states.

The committee "found significant evidence to suggest that, in the summer of 2016, WikiLeaks was knowingly collaborating with Russian government officials."

While the report found ALL THE TROLLFARM RUBE SAW TO BOLSTER HIS ARGUMENT:"no evidence of collusion between President Trump and the Russians," it did find that Trump campaign staff attempted to benefit politically from the leaks.

Trump campaign staff "sought advance notice about WikiLeaks releases, created messaging strategies to promote and share the materials in anticipation of and following the release, and encouraged further leaks."

The report also found that several top members of the 2016 Trump campaign staff posed grave national security risks to the U.S. over their ties to Russia, including Trump's former 2016 campaign chair, Paul Manafort, who was a "grave counterintelligence threat" due to his contacts with a Russian intelligence officer.

Yep, big nothingberder, LOL. You losers are so cute when you pretend to know what you're talking about.

#95 | Posted by chuffy at 2023-09-15 02:53 AM | Reply

Not in the article about the Republican special counsel, appointed by a Republican president, a Republican AG, and with a Republican majority in Congress, was that the investigation was extremely limited, did not investigate the money trail and they found "no evidence of collusion" due to the 10 known examples of obstruction by T***p and his allies.

I read the Mueller Report. Bill Barr is a liar, as are ALL Republicans on this matter.

#96 | Posted by chuffy at 2023-09-15 02:59 AM | Reply

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