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Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Wednesday, September 13, 2023

New York City's pension funds, joined by the state of Oregon, filed a lawsuit against Fox Corporation and its board on Tuesday.

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#1 | Posted by Nixon at 2023-09-13 06:53 AM | Reply

To the tune of Beethoven's 5th: hahahahahahahahahahahaha.

#2 | Posted by Tor at 2023-09-13 10:38 AM | Reply

Shareholders are not guaranteed income. They invest with the hopes of receiving income which most corporations bend over backwards to make sure happens, or they lose their investors, who will go elsewhere. When you make a bad investment, you suffer the result.

#3 | Posted by BBQ at 2023-09-13 01:32 PM | Reply

By law publicly traded companies are not allowed to do things which they know will lose investors substantial amounts of money.

#4 | Posted by Tor at 2023-09-13 01:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

After Faux loses this suit it'll be curtains for Lumpy Hannity.

#5 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2023-09-14 01:20 AM | Reply

NYC and Oregon are a little late to the party. I find it hard to believe, unless they're both deaf, dumb and blind, that neither of their Pension Fund managers knew that falsehoods and manipulation of facts were FOX's stock in trade. Their fortunes rose and fell on the brand of one person, himself a psychological basketcase who delt in tyranny and treason against America.

What in the hell did they think was going to happen?

#6 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-09-14 02:10 AM | Reply

Before the Dominion settlement, Fox stock price was $31 and today it is $29 (6% drop). We compare that to Disney - was $100 and now it is $84 (16% drop); Sinclair was $20 and now is $12 (40% drop); Paramount was $23 and is now $14 (-39%).

It is actually laughable how they are going to claim damages. In reality, I hope that they win. It will lead to a precedent of shareholder lawsuits over the braindead lib companies continuing to do business in blue cities while be robbed blind as well as those that destroy value by embracing woke nonsense. The funniest bit - if you wondered who owned Fox News - it is the Oregon and New York City pension funds. Oh the humanity with that.

#7 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-09-14 05:12 AM | Reply

Who the shareholders should sue are the company CEOs and CFO's who weren't smart enough to divest themselves of FOX the minute they saw the verdict in the precedent set by the Dominos case, on the grounds of a complete violation of their fiduciary duty.

FOX sold out for ratings and quick dollars in advertising revenue without giving much thought to hedging for if and when the bubble burst.

Lindell's advertising alone made up about 6% of FOX's revenue, which was a big chunk of change FOX could ill afford to lose evrn before the Dominos settlement. That's a perfect example of what happens when you put too many eggs in one basket ~ or two if you count becoming the media arm of a seditious political party.

#8 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-09-14 06:27 AM | Reply

"Lindell's advertising alone made up about 6% of FOX's revenue
#8 | POSTED BY TWINPAC"

I don't think you understand the difference between Fox and Fox News. Best you let the adults handle this one Sparky.

#9 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-09-14 09:04 AM | Reply

Oh grow up Claudio.

#10 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2023-09-14 09:11 AM | Reply

"Oh grow up Claudio.
#10 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR"

Do facts scare you?

#11 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-09-14 09:20 AM | Reply

You wouldn't know a fact even if it bit you on your keister.

#12 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2023-09-14 09:46 AM | Reply

Shareholders are not guaranteed income. They invest with the hopes of receiving income which most corporations bend over backwards to make sure happens, or they lose their investors, who will go elsewhere. When you make a bad investment, you suffer the result.

Publicly traded corporations owe a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders to maximize the corporation's value. If they decide to pursue something they know to be worthless/illegal and it damages the company's value, it is not out of the ordinary for shareholders to hold them accountable.

I don't have enough familiarity with the principles at play in this lawsuit to say it's a slam dunk or anything, but it's not as simple as the "caveat emptor" framing you apply to it.

#13 | Posted by JOE at 2023-09-14 10:23 AM | Reply

While you may have the 1st amendment on your side, you can still be subject to civil liability for damage you can cause others.

I hope this ultimately results in better news reporting

#14 | Posted by eberly at 2023-09-14 10:39 AM | Reply

"The funniest bit - if you wondered who owned Fox News - it is the Oregon and New York City pension funds."

Owned?!?

Only if you're using Republican Math.

Stay in school, kids!

#15 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-14 11:01 AM | Reply

"Owned?!?
Only if you're using Republican Math.
#15 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

It is the definition of a shareholder -------. Stick to screwing up people's taxes at H&R Block because you clearly know jack ---- about investing.

#16 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-09-14 11:38 AM | Reply

"It is the definition of a shareholder -------."

Majority shareholder, at best.

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-14 11:46 AM | Reply

I hope
#14 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Thoughts and prayers.
Nothing can be done.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-14 11:46 AM | Reply

"Majority shareholder, at best.
#17 | POSTED BY SNOOFY"

ALL shareholders -------. Buying stock is not a donation, it is owning a fraction of a company.

#19 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-09-14 11:48 AM | Reply

"Buying stock is not a donation, it is owning a fraction of a company."

I'm sure RobinHood keeps telling you that as you round up each purchase.

#20 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-14 11:52 AM | Reply

"It is the definition of a shareholder"

And the working definition of OWNER is NOT percentage of stock control which begins with a decimal point and zeros.

"Owner" is enough to control directions and decisions. Clearly, this lawsuit proves just the opposite.

#21 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-14 11:56 AM | Reply

"I'm sure RobinHood keeps telling you that as you round up each purchase.
#20 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

You have not embarrassed yourself enough with your last moronic post yet -------? You clearly don't know what a share of stock. Probably explains why you never could afford that double-wide you have been eying for the last 30 years.

#22 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-09-14 11:57 AM | Reply

"Owner" is enough to control directions and decisions."

Here -------, hope this helps: "Shares represent units of ownership in a corporation or financial asset owned by investors who exchange capital in return for these units."
www.investopedia.com

"Clearly, this lawsuit proves just the opposite.
#21 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Clearly, you yet again have no clue what you are talking about. They are suing BECAUSE THEY LOST MONEY BY OWNING FOX. Literally, how dumb are you?

#23 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-09-14 12:01 PM | Reply

"You clearly don't know what a share of stock."

Nice sentence, Einstein.

Your post intimated control of directions and decisions. That would mean these two entities are suing THEMSELVES.

#24 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-14 12:06 PM | Reply

"Shares represent units of ownership in a corporation"

They certainly do.

So were you intimating control of directions and decisions, or not?

#25 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-14 12:08 PM | Reply

" They are suing BECAUSE THEY LOST MONEY BY OWNING FOX. "

I get that part.

What I don't get is you suggesting they were "owning", i.e. controlling, the company.

#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-14 12:10 PM | Reply

"Your post intimated control of directions and decisions.
#24 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

No, it didn't. Words matter and I stated exactly what I meant - NYC and OR pensions were owners of Fox.
This is just your latest attempt to not sound like a moronic ------- but this fails just like your prior attempts because - at the end of the day - you are a moronic -------.

#27 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-09-14 12:11 PM | Reply

"What I don't get is you suggesting they were "owning", i.e. controlling, the company.
#26 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

In what world does owning = controlling? Owning = possessing, which a stockholder 100% does. Just stop at this point - it is hard to believe but you are managing to make Lefties look even dumber than they are.

#28 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-09-14 12:13 PM | Reply

I've got to ask what was the uber progressive city of New York doing investing in a Cable News Network that habitually ---- on their good name?

#29 | Posted by Tor at 2023-09-14 02:53 PM | Reply

"I stated exactly what I meant - NYC and OR pensions were owners of Fox.

Yeah, the same way someone who has ONE SHARE of Berkshire Hathaway OWNS that company.

But that's not what you meant, because owning a minority percentage that starts with a decimal point and some zeros is NOTHING LIKE owning a company in the way you intimated.

You didn't mean owning a share. You meant owning something resembling control. Otherwise, your original post is meaningless.

Was your original post meaningless?

#30 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-14 06:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" In what world does owning = controlling?"

In a world where your original post isn't meaningless.

#31 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-14 06:35 PM | Reply

"'ve got to ask what was the uber progressive city of New York doing investing in a Cable News Network that habitually ---- on their good name?
#29 | POSTED BY TOR"

That is the exact point I made above but -------- like Danforth don't understand what owning shares in a company means. He seems to think there would only be a conflict if these liberal --------- actually control the company - because again - he is a moron.

#32 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-09-14 07:01 PM | Reply

" -------- like Danforth don't understand what owning shares in a company means."

Oh I understand your mommy told you your one share of McDonalds means you own the company, but that's not how it works.

But thanks for admitting your original post means less than a fart in a windstorm.

#33 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-14 07:49 PM | Reply

" He seems to think there would only be a conflict if these liberal --------- actually control the company"

No, I'll concede your point. It's just not "own" the way you were intimating.

But of course, it's neither Oregon or NYC making those calls; it's the fiduciary investment companies running those specific retirement funds. Hell, for all you know, the investment companies could hail from some red s-hole.

#34 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-14 07:57 PM | Reply

"Oh I understand your mommy told you your one share of McDonalds means you own the company,"

Yes, that is something my mother would say BECAUSE IT IS TRUE. As pointed out to you above, that is EXACTLY was a share of stock is - it is proportionate OWNERSHIP of the company. This gives you a claim on a share of the profits AS AN OWNER.

I don't get how you continue to step on your own dick on this point and this you look like anything other than ridiculous.

"But thanks for admitting your original post means less than a fart in a windstorm.
#33 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

It only read like that IF it is read by a moronic ------- that does not understand stock ownership. Even TOR - a dull knife by all measures - understands this point. Congrats, you are not dumber than TOR.

#35 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-09-14 07:58 PM | Reply

@#32 ... -------- like Danforth don't understand what owning shares in a company means. ...

If I may pop in here...

The Danforth alias seems to be quite aware of the ramifications of owning shares in a company.

Your current alia, on the other hand, well. not.

#36 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-14 07:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#35 ... Even TOR - a dull knife by all measures ...

Who appointed your current alias, of all aliases, to be the judge of the sharpness of kinves here?

#37 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-14 08:00 PM | Reply

"But of course, it's neither Oregon or NYC making those calls;"

You don't understand how pension funds work so you should just stop now. The pension funds CAN AND DO place restrictions on what can be held by the funds they hire to actually do the investments. Perhaps this is why you do not you understand the ESG issue - these funds forbid investment in companies not conforming to Liberal ESG standards because again - THEY - make the the decision on what companies are acceptable - and they were a-okay with Fox, which is the summation of the comment - which you would have understood from the start were you not a moronic ------- that does not understand how stocks works.

"it's the fiduciary investment companies running those specific retirement funds. Hell, for all you know, the investment companies could hail from some red s-hole.
#34 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Seems you heard a new word that you think makes you sound smart - but, you just sound like even more of a moronic ------- when you use it incorrectly.

#38 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-09-14 08:03 PM | Reply

"The Danforth alias seems to be quite aware of the ramifications of owning shares in a company.
#36 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER"

Really? Seems he does not understand this makes you an owner of the company - which is the most basic concept of a stock.

#39 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-09-14 08:04 PM | Reply

"Who appointed your current alias, of all aliases, to be the judge of the sharpness of kinves here?
#37 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER"

By virtue of the fact that I am the only one on this website with an IQ above room temperature, I am appointed.

#40 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-09-14 08:06 PM | Reply

"As pointed out to you above, that is EXACTLY was a share of stock is - it is proportionate OWNERSHIP of the company."

Exactly.

But if you owned one share of McDonalds, would you tell people you "owned" McDonalds?

And if owning any amount of shares, no matter how small, is huge news, I guess you should add another thousand retirement funds to folks who probably "owned" Fox.

#41 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-14 08:08 PM | Reply

"Seems he does not understand this makes you an owner of the company"

Oh, I completely do.

But I never expect a Packer fan to claim he "owns" the Green Bay football team.

Still, I'm aware .00001 is a number GREATER than zero. And frankly, it wouldn't surprise me if either of my pensions, or any of my ~20 mutual funds "own" some Fox.

#42 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-14 08:11 PM | Reply

@#39 ... Really? Seems he does not understand this makes you an owner of the company ...

Actually, the Danforth alias seems to have a good grasp of that concept.

It is your current alias that seems to be, let's say, rather fluid in its understanding of the concept of "owner of a company."

But keep on flailing here, this has become humorous. ...

...

:)

#43 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-14 08:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#40 ... By virtue of the fact ...

Yet another assertion without substantiation.

What "fact," exactly, is that?



#44 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-14 08:16 PM | Reply

"The pension funds CAN AND DO place restrictions on what can be held by the funds they hire to actually do the investments."

Yes, I know. I was a Trustee of a multi-billion dollar pension and health fund. "Can" doesn't mean they always do. In fact, they usually don't, except when they believe they must.

"Perhaps this is why you do not you understand the ESG issue - these funds forbid investment in companies not conforming to Liberal ESG"

I'm aware of that as well, and would also assert the majority of funds DON'T have those prohibitions on their investments.

#45 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-14 08:21 PM | Reply

"But if you owned one share of McDonalds, would you tell people you "owned" McDonalds?
#41 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Yes, I would because it is 100% true and accurate - and only a moronic ------- would interpret that as me claiming to own 100% of McDonalds or having majority control over the company.

People that understand stocks, which obviously excludes you, understand a shareholder IS an owner and has proportionate claim on company profits and control via voting only.

As to your retarded Packers talking point - it is EQUALLY as wrong. Yes, literally EVERYONE that bought a share of the Packers' stock considers themselves AN OWNER. And they do this despite knowing 100% that they have NO CONTROL over the team - yet - they are still OWNERS. Thus, only a moronic ------- would interpret a Packers shareholder stating that they own the Packers as claiming that they own 100% of the team or exercise majority control over the team.

You have lost this argument - own it.

#46 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-09-14 08:23 PM | Reply

"It only read like that IF it is read by a moronic ------- that does not understand stock ownership."

Then you should probably add me as one of the Fox investors....sorry, OWNERS. One of the stakeholders is the Vanguard 500.

#47 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-14 08:25 PM | Reply

"Yes, I know. I was a Trustee of a multi-billion dollar pension and health fund."

If this was true, which is highly doubtful, that pension fund should be immediately sued for violating their fiduciary duty (notice that word used correctly here) by appointing someone as a trustee that does not understand how stocks work.

""Can" doesn't mean they always do. In fact, they usually don't, except when they believe they must.#45 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

No ---- -------. In this case NYC and OR - the most deep blue --------- of the deep blue --------- that constantly claim Fox News is evil - were - da da daaaa - OWNERS of FOX. I am not going to explain this concept to you again - your mental ability is clearly not up the level of understanding it. Maybe you can ask TOR to tutor you.

#48 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-09-14 08:27 PM | Reply

"You have lost this argument - own it."

Own? Like I own Fox?

"only a moronic ------- would interpret a Packers shareholder stating that they own the Packers as claiming that they own 100% of the team"

I never said it was 100%. I said they claimed to "own" the Packers, like you claimed the NYC pension "owns" Fox. But look at you, proving my point!

#49 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-14 08:28 PM | Reply

"Then you should probably add me as one of the Fox investors....sorry, OWNERS. One of the stakeholders is the Vanguard 500.
#47 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

It is a true statement IF you own Vanguard 500 - which is doubtful as you clearly are broke. Your biggest investment is probably the gas in your car.

#50 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-09-14 08:30 PM | Reply

@#46 ... Yes, I would because it is 100% true and accurate ...

Not really.

Yes, you would have an ownership share in McDonald's.

But, if you owned one share of McDonald's, you would own a part of McDonald's.

You would not own all of McDonald's, as your current alias' comment seems to imply.


#51 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-14 08:31 PM | Reply

"...in this case NYC and OR - the most deep blue --------- of the deep blue --------- that constantly claim Fox News is evil - were - da da daaaa - OWNERS of FOX."

Okay, so ultimately, neither of those sets of pension trustees (the fiduciaries) specifically prohibited purchase of Fox.

If you need to feel that's a huge deal to sleep at night, go right ahead.

#52 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-14 08:31 PM | Reply

@#50 ... which is doubtful as you clearly are broke. ...

If that is so clear, what evidence you you have?

#53 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-14 08:32 PM | Reply

If that is so clear, what evidence you you have?

You of course realize you are attempting to converse with a three year old, correct?

#54 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-09-14 08:34 PM | Reply

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

#55 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-09-14 08:35 PM | Reply

"It is a true statement IF you own Vanguard 500 - which is doubtful as you clearly are broke."

Dude, we've been though this before, where the insults you threw and the math you used suggested your net worth is 250, but you hope one day to get to 500. Dollars.

Meanwhile, the bride and I leave Monday for two weeks in Ireland to celebrate our 22nd anniversary.

#56 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-14 08:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

@#48 ... constantly claim Fox News is evil ...

Which news network recently lost a multi-100's of million dollar lawsuit for lying?

That aside, your current alias seems to be saying FoxNews is a source of its info?

Is that correct?

#57 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-14 08:35 PM | Reply

@#54 ... You of course realize you are attempting to converse with a three year old, correct? ...

Yeah.

It's a slow night here.

I'm waiting for the QA tests of my software to complete, so I have time to kill...

Back when I used to commute to work, my carpool partner once described how his cat had a mouse trapped in a bathtub.

He described how the cat would just use its front paws to push the mouse back and forth. And the mouse, not having a clue about the situation it was in would just try to get out of the situation.

In the end, it was not successful.


#58 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-14 08:40 PM | Reply

"Your biggest investment is probably the gas in your car."

Nah, my biggest investment was turning on the automatic saving spigot when I was 29.

Second biggest was convincing the bride to be an aggressive saver as well, when we met 25 years ago.

Third was paying down the mortgage when everyone else was using it as a piggy bank.

Fourth was doubling the investing the day we paid off the mortgage.
--

Sorry...you were saying?

#59 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-14 08:40 PM | Reply

It's a slow night here.

Fair enough. One must work with what they have. Even Pong.

#60 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-09-14 08:42 PM | Reply

"Yes, you would have an ownership share in McDonald's."

So, by definition AN OWNER. Thank you for once again, proving my point unless you want to argue that having and ownership share does not mean you own anything.

"But, if you owned one share of McDonald's, you would own a part of McDonald's."

Yeah - that is how stocks work -------. Read up on the topic.

"You would not own all of McDonald's, as your current alias' comment seems to imply.
#51 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER"

By virtue of it being PUBLICLY ------- TRADED - no single person owns 100% of any listed stock. Only a complete ------- moron - which now includes both you and Danforth - would EVER interpret that comment - ABOUT A PUBLICLY ------- TRADED company as implying owning ALL of the company. Given you have the history of Danforth already being destroyed on this topic, I am going to place you behind both TOR and him in IQ ranking - I assume you are around 85.

#61 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-09-14 08:46 PM | Reply

"If that is so clear, what evidence you you have?
#53 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER"

1.) a degree in interpretive dance
2.) a demonstrated IQ below room temperature
3.) repeated incorrect statements on basic financial topics in which he claims to have had a career

Yeah, he is full of ---- and a brokie.

#62 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-09-14 08:49 PM | Reply

But, if you owned one share of McDonald's, you would own a part of McDonald's

That's why they call them shares. The people that own shares are called shareholders. Very simple concept.

#63 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-09-14 08:51 PM | Reply

"That's why they call them shares. The people that own shares are called shareholders. Very simple concept.
#63 | POSTED BY REDIAL"

Go explain that to Danforth. He still doesn't understand what a share of stock is. He apparently thinks it is just a piece of paper and does not represent ownership of anything. Not surprising from a guy that did not understand the concept of market cap either.

#64 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-09-14 08:54 PM | Reply

Go explain that to Danforth.

I'm sure he knows. It's a meaningless semantic argument at best.

#65 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-09-14 08:58 PM | Reply

@#61 ... So, by definition AN OWNER. Thank you for once again, proving my point unless you want to argue that having and ownership share does not mean you own anything. ...

I never said you own nothing.

Though I do note that your current alias now says, "having and[sic] ownership share."

... By virtue of it being PUBLICLY ------- TRADED - no single person owns 100% of any listed stock. Only a complete ------- moron - which now includes both you and Danforth - would EVER interpret that comment - ABOUT A PUBLICLY ------- TRADED company as implying owning ALL of the company....

So... your current tries to substantiate the erroneous comment your current alias wrote by trying to insult others?

... I am going to place you behind both TOR and him in IQ ranking - I assume you are around 85. ...

Well, for starters, you'd be wrong with that assessment. But I have to ask, upon what does your current alias base its IQ assessments. Got links? Or anything, besides insults?

It seems like your current alias has been quite disruptive here. Lots of accusations, insults and degradation of others. And little, I'll say. reality.



#66 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-14 09:05 PM | Reply

@#62 ... repeated incorrect statements on basic financial topics in which he claims to have had a career ...

While I disagree with all three of your assertions, let's look at this one.

Please, for starters, list the "repeated incorrect statements on basic financial topics."

thx.

#67 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-14 09:07 PM | Reply

@#63 ... Very simple concept. ...

Yup.

And now your current alias finally seems to understand it.

Kudos.

#68 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-14 09:08 PM | Reply

@#62 ... Yeah, he is full of ---- and a brokie[sic]. ...

So now your current alias has started to project?

#69 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-14 09:10 PM | Reply

Claudia is a JeffyJagoff sock puppet.

#70 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-09-14 10:17 PM | Reply

"Not surprising from a guy that did not understand the concept of market cap either."

Gee...who were you when we discussed market cap?

"Claudia is a JeffyJagoff sock puppet."

Nah...it's the bastard son of Wrecks Zeitgeist and Special Eddie. First in his class at Dunning-Kruger!

#71 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-14 10:25 PM | Reply

"He still doesn't understand what a share of stock is."

On the contrary. If you want to claim you "own" McDonalds based on your one share, YOU GO FOR IT!

If your scandal, however, is a couple of BLUE funds are investing in a RED investment...then shouldn't the "news" be there are ONLY TWO?

Based on your suggestion the ESL plague is ubiquitous, where are the rest of them?

#72 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-14 10:30 PM | Reply

@#68

Apologies are in order for me.

In #68 I said "Yup.

And now your current alias finally seems to understand it.

Kudos."

That comment was misdirected, I did not intend it to be directed to #63.

Apologies to REDIAL abound here.


#73 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-14 10:38 PM | Reply

Apologies to REDIAL abound here.

He's long over it. :-)

#74 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-09-14 10:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" who were you when we discussed market cap?"

And, more to the point, you've claimed you never posted under a different name.

Busted.

#75 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-14 10:42 PM | Reply

@#75 ... " who were you when we discussed market cap?" ...

Interesting observation.

From #64

... Go explain that to Danforth. He still doesn't understand what a share of stock is. He apparently thinks it is just a piece of paper and does not represent ownership of anything. Not surprising from a guy that did not understand the concept of market cap either. ...
[emphasis mine]

Quite interesting.

The comment appears to indicate some prior interaction with you.

But under what current alias?


Interesting....

Leon Russell - Magic Mirror
www.youtube.com



#76 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-14 10:57 PM | Reply

@#74

thx.

#77 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-14 11:13 PM | Reply

"The comment appears to indicate some prior interaction with you.
But under what current alias?
#76 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER"

I think your time would be much better spent doing some self-reflection - specifically about why you believe a guy like Danforth who claims to be a financial expert but does not understand the concept of stock ownership or the concept of market cap when comparing companies. That ------- actually talked about 'over priced' stocks compared to each other based solely on the stock price thinking that alone was the value of the company. He had to be told he needed to multiply that by the share count to do a meaningful comparison. Literally, freshman year concepts here - but, maybe they didn't have time to teach that during his interpretive dance class schedule.

#78 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-09-14 11:55 PM | Reply

@#78 ... I think your time would be much better spent doing some self-reflection ...

I do that. Frequently.

And I've stated the results here.

... That ------- ...

I'm still waiting for the results of your intelligence evaluation.

Until then, my opinion is that your current alias is little more than one that hurls insults.

Of course, your current alias can change that determination.

But the onus is on your current alias.




#79 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-15 12:05 AM | Reply

Pink Floyd - Cymbaline
www.youtube.com

Not a Pink Floyd tune you hear frequently, It's from the days of the late 1960's when they did a lot of soundtrack work.

#80 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-15 12:08 AM | Reply

"does not understand the concept of stock ownership or the concept of market cap when comparing companies."

I understand both.

"That ------- actually talked about 'over priced' stocks compared to each other based solely on the stock price thinking that alone was the value of the company"

You have me confused with some other -------. I've never had a discussion about company values being equal to stock prices. Not with you or anyone else.

#81 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-15 12:55 AM | Reply

"The comment appears to indicate some prior interaction with you. But under what current alias?
~Lamp

"I think your time would be much better spent doing some self-reflection"
~Clod

100% coward response.

#82 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-15 12:59 AM | Reply

"You have me confused with some other -------.
#81 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Well, at least now you are admitting you are a -------, just not THAT -------. But, like most of what you post on here, that is also a lie. You are THAT -------.

#83 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-09-15 01:24 AM | Reply

@#83 ... Well, at least now you are admitting you are a ------- ...

Nonsense. The comment your current alias sites says nothing of that. Do try to understand basic English instead of grasping at straws.

But that your current alias has glommed onto that aspect of the comment speaks volumes abut the lack of credibility of that alias.

#84 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-15 01:35 AM | Reply

"You are THAT -------.

No, I'm not, dumfuq.

Who did you used to be, when we supposedly had this discussion?

#85 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-15 02:44 AM | Reply

"Well, at least now you are admitting you are a ------- ..".

Nonsense. The comment your current alias sites says nothing of that

Now wait...I did joke I wasn't THAT -------. Clod didn't seem to take it as a joke, but all the same...

#86 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-15 02:46 AM | Reply

"He had to be told he needed to multiply that by the share count to do a meaningful comparison."

Again, I've literally never had that discussion in my life.

Do I live in your head rent-free?

#87 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-15 02:49 AM | Reply

"Again, I've literally never had that discussion in my life.
Do I live in your head rent-free?
#87 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Sure you didn't -------. Every time we talk, I kick your teeth in until you try to move the goalposts and then I kick your teeth in some more - this thread, every thread where we engage. I think I am the one living rent free in your head. Otherwise, you probably would stick to topics where you have a punchers' chance of winning. Instead, you shoot your mouth off on finance related topics and you continually look like a moronic -------.

#88 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-09-15 03:01 AM | Reply

"1.) a degree in interpretive dance"

And two pensions, if you're keeping track. One which just got increased after a 3 month run of a Hank Williams biography.

"2.) a demonstrated IQ below room temperature"

Doubtful to the folks who skipped me a grade, the folks who offered me to skip another, or the program I was in where had the chance to skip a grade, but chose Conservatory training instead.

"3.) repeated incorrect statements on basic financial topics in which he claims to have had a career"

Aren't you the guy who claimed we were in recession 9 months ago, when we weren't and 6 months ago, when we weren't, and 3 months ago, when we weren't? And isn't your only response the gub'mint iz lyin'?

#89 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-15 03:12 AM | Reply

"Every time we talk, I kick your teeth in until you try to move the goalposts"

As I recall, every time we talk, you beat a hasty exit after being caught barfing some bullschitt.

Fact is, you can't even face your own prior incarnations' posts. Who else have you been? Or are you too cowardly to admit?

#90 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-15 03:18 AM | Reply

"Every time we talk, I kick your teeth in"

You must be the guy who posted from the crapper one night, a plop-by-plop description of AllThingsClaudio.

Kind of Wrecks the Zeitgeist, wouldn't you agree?

#91 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-15 03:20 AM | Reply

"1.) a degree in interpretive dance"
And two pensions"

I don't consider securing a prime highway off-ramp begging spot as a pension, but to eat their own. Maybe you can utilize that interpretive dance degree to work as a sign spinner and actually be productive for once in your life. The exercise may even make the wife not gag at the thought of your naked body.

"2.) a demonstrated IQ below room temperature"
Doubtful to the folks who skipped me a grade"

You can't skip a stone much less a grade. Don't make us laugh.

"3.) repeated incorrect statements on basic financial topics in which he claims to have had a career"
Aren't you the guy
#89 | POSTED BY DANFORTH "

Biden says that economy is great as do the official US government numbers (China's CCP produced numbers say they are doing great too!). Meanwhile, polls show people think the country is headed in the wrong direction by +45 percent (www.realclearpolitics.com). But, keep your head up your ass and keep touting Biden's ------- statements and see where that gets you.

#92 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-09-15 03:22 AM | Reply

" I don't consider securing a prime highway off-ramp begging spot as a pension, but to eat their own."

You've got to love the self-retorting retort!

#93 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-15 04:00 AM | Reply

" Biden says ... "

Just like I predicted: We really are in a recession, according to my Republican Math! The gub'mint iz lyin' to us!

#94 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-15 04:03 AM | Reply

"You can't skip a stone much less a grade."

Would you like to wager on that, dumfuq?

#95 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-15 04:05 AM | Reply

Meanwhile, the bride and I leave Monday for two weeks in Ireland to celebrate our 22nd anniversary.

Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-14 08:35 PM | Reply

Have a great trip and Happy Anniversary.

#96 | Posted by Nixon at 2023-09-15 08:45 AM | Reply

Biden says that economy is great as do the official US government numbers (China's CCP produced numbers say they are doing great too!). Meanwhile, polls show people think the country is headed in the wrong direction by +45 percent (www.realclearpolitics.com). But, keep your head up your ass and keep touting Biden's ------- statements and see where that gets you.

#92 | POSTED BY CLAUDIO

No, China didn't.

They produced numbers showing they are in trouble.

And refused to report any numbers in areas where they are in real trouble (i.e. youth unemployment).

#97 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-09-15 10:46 AM | Reply

The funniest bit - if you wondered who owned Fox News - it is the Oregon and New York City pension funds. Oh the humanity with that.

#7 | Posted by Claudio

The funniest bit is you morons still parrot the propaganda from a network that was proven to lie to you on purpose.

#98 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-09-15 11:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It will lead to a precedent of shareholder lawsuits over the braindead lib companies continuing to do business in blue cities while be robbed blind as well as those that destroy value by embracing woke nonsense.

Lists Disney, Sinclair and Paramount as examples of "woke lib" companies, LOL. Sure, pal, doing business in rural Oklahoma, catering to fascist Evangelicals is the only way those companies will ever make any money...got it.

#99 | Posted by chuffy at 2023-09-15 12:41 PM | Reply

"It will lead to a precedent of shareholder lawsuits over the braindead lib companies...."

only if they misrepresent their intentions to shareholders.

If they are transparent about their intentions then shareholders can make their own financial choices.

shareholders are like customers....they can vote with their wallets.

#100 | Posted by eberly at 2023-09-15 01:08 PM | Reply

only if they misrepresent their intentions to shareholders.

If they are transparent about their intentions then shareholders can make their own financial choices.

shareholders are like customers....they can vote with their wallets.

#100 | Posted by eberly

Has fox ever told its investors that they're going to have their "news" channel intentionally lie to it's viewers and risk destroying all its credibility?

#101 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-09-15 01:31 PM | Reply

Again wtf was NYC doing investing in foxnews?

#102 | Posted by Tor at 2023-09-15 01:46 PM | Reply

Again wtf was NYC doing investing in foxnews?

#103 | Posted by Tor at 2023-09-15 01:46 PM | Reply

Again wtf was NYC doing investing in foxnews?
#102 | POSTED BY TOR

Seeking return on capital.

#104 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-15 01:53 PM | Reply

"wtf was NYC doing investing in foxnews"

It's not NYC, per se. It's their investment companies, completely separate from the city itself.

#105 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-09-15 02:37 PM | Reply

Foxnews costs the NYC money every year.

#106 | Posted by Tor at 2023-09-15 02:44 PM | Reply

The owner of Fox News is Fox.

It's more than just Fox News. Coincidentally, that means it has deeper pockets from which the plaintiffs hope to recover damages.

"Fox Corp. engages in providing television production and broadcasting services. It also provides news under the brands FOX News Media, FOX Sports, FOX Entertainment and FOX Television Stations, and Tubi Media Group."

#107 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-15 07:05 PM | Reply

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