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Friday, September 15, 2023

Amazon.com's Whole Foods Market doesn't want to be forced to let workers wear "Black Lives Matter" masks and is pointing to the recent US Supreme Court ruling permitting a business owner to refuse services to same-sex couples to get federal regulators to back off.

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... National Labor Relations Board prosecutors have accused the grocer of stifling worker rights by banning staff from wearing BLM masks or pins on the job. The company countered in a filing that its own rights are being violated if it's forced to allow BLM slogans to be worn with Whole Foods uniforms.

Amazon is the most prominent company to use the high court's June ruling that a Christian web designer was free to refuse to design sites for gay weddings, saying the case "provides a clear roadmap" to throw out the NLRB's complaint.

The dispute is one of several in which labor board officials are considering what counts as legally-protected, work-related communication and activism on the job. ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-14 08:06 PM | Reply


At this point, based upon all I have read, I tend to agree with Amazon.

And, yes, I am as surprised as you are.

I have no problem with an employer saying that employees cannot display political, I'll say, alignments while working.

The employee is there to help customers, not to state a political opinion.

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-14 08:10 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

The employee is there to help customers, not to state a political opinion. #2 | Posted by LampLighter

Exactly. You want to state a political opinion, do it on your own time. You don't get to trash your employer's reputation while getting paid for it.

I can only assume that anyone supporting these BLM employees would have no problem with others wearing MAGA hats. Meanwhile, the customer gets caught in the crossfire while trying to check out their $6 asparagus water.

#3 | Posted by censored at 2023-09-15 08:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Exactly. You want to state a political opinion, do it on your own time. You don't get to trash your employer's reputation while getting paid for it.
I can only assume that anyone supporting these BLM employees would have no problem with others wearing MAGA hats. Meanwhile, the customer gets caught in the crossfire while trying to check out their $6 asparagus water.

#3 | POSTED BY CENSORED

Agreed.

A company has a right to have a dress code and prohibit certain speech in customer facing positions.

Wearing a BLM mask while at work crosses the public free speech line into commercial free speech space so it won't receive the same protections.

#4 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-09-15 10:40 AM | Reply

Meanwhile, the customer gets caught in the crossfire while trying to check out their $6 asparagus water.

#3 | POSTED BY CENSORED

Exactly this, lol. Good to see employers getting ahead of this before a divisive and likely painful 2024 election

#5 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2023-09-15 11:51 AM | Reply

They should just fire the terrorists.

#6 | Posted by sawdust at 2023-09-15 06:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Another cartoon.

#7 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-09-15 11:36 PM | Reply

Stir it up.

#8 | Posted by fresno500 at 2023-09-16 01:00 AM | Reply

I do agree with Amazon on this, at least in any customer facing role for sure. I can also understand it behind the scenes. I agree that companies should be able to set dress codes - as necessary. However, where does it end? Can they ban cross or other religious icon wearing? (At least visible ones.) Tattoos has always been an interesting one. Many places have backed off policies requiring them to not be visible. But what if they include BLM or MAGA? What if they are offensive? Then there are hand, neck, head and face tatts...

#9 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2023-09-16 11:04 AM | Reply

It's private property.

the only person who gets to enjoy free speech there is the owner.

#10 | Posted by Tor at 2023-09-16 11:25 AM | Reply

I think if I worked at Whole Foods I could not resist the urge to troll this diktat by wearing a Blue Lives Matter mask.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-16 12:05 PM | Reply

We would be much better off if all candidate or policy favoring politics was banned from being promoted by business or employees or unions in public, corporate entities, retail, unions in schools or any taxpayer funded entities.

#12 | Posted by Robson at 2023-09-16 06:00 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

@#12 ... We would be much better off if all candidate or policy favoring politics was banned from being promoted by ...

imo, private businesses can set their dress codes for employees while working.

#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-16 06:09 PM | Reply

#12

So Citizens United was adjudicated wrongly in your opinion? It wasn't Democrats who wanted to open the floodgates to unfettered political speech even when it's only money doing the talking.

As it regards the BLM tokens, I find it wholly hypocritical to claim that a religious beliefs finding is grounds to stop others from being able to silently express their own beliefs based on a simple ethos - the lives of black people matter and shouldn't be viewed as disposable.

The fact that others want to claim that the term Black Lives Matter is somehow controversial or inflammatory lies in the feelings and beliefs of those so claiming this, and it shouldn't impact the right of any employee to silently show support for the ultimate religious belief - human lives matter.

It's only political for those who choose to make it political. Black Lives Matter is a statement of fact, not politics. The fact that it's controversial is held by those seeing it that way, not those expressing that their own lives have intrinsic value which is a cornerstone of our constitution's protections.

#14 | Posted by tonyroma at 2023-09-16 06:19 PM | Reply

@#14 ... It's only political for those who choose to make it political. Black Lives Matter is a statement of fact, not politics. ...

Regardless of what some think is actually is or is not, imo, it is still within the rights of an employer to set dress codes.


#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-16 06:27 PM | Reply

#14 cont.

Generally I do believe that employers have the right to dictate how employees dress as a matter of their jobs. But what employer doesn't allow employees to wear emblems of support for various non-work causes - many of which the company supports themselves? (Think various ribbons, emblems of support for local causes or civic organizations, etc.)

It doesn't seem right that corporations can you employees to express their own 1st Amendment speech while denying employees the right to silently express positive messages of their own.

IMO there will come a day very soon where all these 'religious belief' arguments are going to have the word 'religious' dropped and individuals will simply be demanding any of their personal beliefs be given equal 1st Amendment protection. Why is something non-quantifiable like religion given scared space when it really is only one of many 'beliefs' individuals can have untied to any quantifiable objective truth or reality?

Just my two cents.

#16 | Posted by tonyroma at 2023-09-16 06:35 PM | Reply

...can use employees ....

#17 | Posted by tonyroma at 2023-09-16 06:36 PM | Reply

@#16 ... But what employer doesn't allow employees to wear emblems of support for various non-work causes - many of which the company supports themselves?...

Whole Foods, apparently. Is Whole Foods applying this fairly? My guess is that we will soon find out.

I view this similar to the wedding cake thing.

When people (or corporations) go into business with the public, the business needs to focus on exactly that, the business.

Ya know, Capitalism, and all that.

Whether it is providing a cake for a wedding that the business disagrees with, or having employees not wearing political (yes, imo, BLM is political. The first words on their website are, "Join the Movement to fight for Freedom, Liberation and Justice"   blacklivesmatter.com ) the focus should be on the business, not the politics.

A business is in business to serve customers. Period. Full Stop.

Every law-abiding person that walks through the door of a business should be treated with the same business manner. If that requires politically bland business attire or creating an amazing wedding cake for a couple, then so be it.


#18 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-09-16 10:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Other than clueless white liberals, Pro Black females and their effeminate mom-raised male friends, who is still wearing this mess or still has a sign in their front yard.

#19 | Posted by RomeoAlpha at 2023-09-17 06:10 PM | Reply

Other than clueless white liberals, Pro Black females and their effeminate mom-raised male friends, who is still wearing this mess or still has a sign in their front yard.
#19 | POSTED BY ROMEOALPHA

If you could bring yourself to leave mom's basement, you could look around for yourself.

#20 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-09-17 11:25 PM | Reply

Is stating that a black person's life matters really a "political opinion?"

#21 | Posted by JOE at 2023-09-18 12:31 AM | Reply

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