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Monday, September 18, 2023

In many of the world's largest and most expensive cities, young people find themselves in a strange predicament. Although their educational credentials and employment prospects put them in the "middle-class" category, many have virtually no chance of ever making it on to the property ladder. For almost four decades, property prices have increased at a much faster rate than wages. Although this trend has hardly gone unnoticed, what has received less recognition is how it has fundamentally reshaped both class and inequality in western societies. 9 Nov 2020

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It definitely has not gone unnoticed, but the article did not seem to cover the construction shortages. It's a Sydney article, Sydney is experiencing a new housing construction shortage. California is experiencing a new housing construction shortage. Texas is experiencing a new housing construction shortage, second to only California, and housing prices doubled during just the brief Covid era.

#1 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-09-19 01:31 PM | Reply

50 years of trickle down economics at work.

#2 | Posted by Nixon at 2023-09-19 01:37 PM | Reply


50 years of trickle down restrictions at work.

#2 | POSTED BY NIXON

FTFY. Its really about supply.

Many cities and towns in CA put restrictions on housing permits etc. MUD's are also restricted. States trying to get around it. But imagine pissing off the city council with a project through State waivers. Good luck getting another permit.

Can you imagine all the regulations needed to build an apartment complex. You don't see new apartment complexes similar to the ones from the 60-70s here in the BayArea, or south bay for that matter.

Housing/Land Use is the most regulated industry in the country.

#3 | Posted by oneironaut at 2023-09-19 01:56 PM | Reply

In California they're trying the ultimate in Right Wing dirty words.. deregulation. Progress is.. not great.

#4 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-09-19 02:00 PM | Reply

#1 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

There is indeed a shortage of new construction in affordable family housing. But higher end housing, which is far more profitable for developers, is still being built at a steady pace.

Housing/Land Use is the most regulated industry in the country.

#3 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Normally, I hate to agree with this troll. But this is correct, and a big part of the problem. Safe and less expensive housing can be built without so much of the egregious crony-capitalist red tape that gets in the way.

Americans need to rethink their need to own a piece of the suburbs. And start looking at return to higher density alternatives.

#5 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2023-09-19 03:42 PM | Reply

But higher end housing, which is far more profitable for developers, is still being built at a steady pace.

#5 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT AT 2023-09-19 03:42 PM | FLAG:

but in much lower numbers because of the limited buyer pool. Either way we're coming to the same conclusion. Grow the supply so people can afford it.

#6 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-09-19 06:38 PM | Reply

"It's really about supply."

LOL!!!

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-09-19 06:43 PM | Reply

High-density housing is where it's at. Much less damaging to the environment and drastically cuts down on commute time.

#8 | Posted by censored at 2023-09-19 06:47 PM | Reply

There is indeed a shortage of new construction in affordable family housing. But higher end housing, which is far more profitable for developers, is still being built at a steady pace.

That's been a major snowballing problem where I live.

Single story, one family homes on good sized lots are the norm. Most built in the 50s-70s and most are about 1200-2200 ft^2 range, depending on what area of town.

Those are steadily being bought by developers who do one of three things-

1. Demolish and build a 3500+ ft^2 two story monstrosity that hugs the frontage requirement and runs lot line to lot line laterally. Back yard is filled in with large, free-standing garage and huge concrete pad between house and garage. Almost always, all mature trees on the property are cut down unless they're on the line in the back or very front. House bought at $250-300K...sometimes less...sold for $750K to $1 million depending on location.

2. Buy two adjacent homes and do the same as above but put in one really huge monstrosity that sells for $1.2+ million, usually with additional concrete pads to accommodate pool ect and much larger garage.

3. Buy three adjacent homes and infill with 2 monstrosities described in #1.

#1 is most common, so technically inventory doesn't change, but the pricing is insane. I toured several of them when we were buying in 2019 and it wasn't even worth it given the big box store materials (trim, doors, cabinets ect) and hasty construction. Two of them already had foundation repairs (fiberglass internal reinforcement) and they hadn't even had a single owner yet. At that time, they were pricing for $550-650K. Similar builds now are hitting the market at $750-850K.

But the effects of them are causing a snowballing of the problem since the developers have zero consideration for surrounding properties.

A relatively minor problem is that the smaller houses are usually set far back from the front property line. With the double story houses and garages going up closer to the back lot lines, houses that once received healthy amounts of sun are now shaded significant parts of the day. Whereas before the neighboring house was some distance away, you now look out your window and see a wall with an HVAC unit 6-10ft away. Probably a fence, too.

Bigger problem is the drainage. With a higher % of the lot covered by house and concrete, more runoff is occurring. Grading is usually done haphazardly so it's not running to the street, but to the neighbors. This has resulted in a lot of people developing flooding issues in their basements, leading to foundation issues they didn't previously have. Well, now their property value is dropping and they look to sell while they can.

And guess who's waiting in the wings to snap up the property at a discount price? The same developer who f*&^ed it up to begin with. Rinse and repeat.

It's gotten so bad that a historic park in town that's a lovely wooded valley with a creek running through it and a bunch of picnic sites and shaded lawns is being screwed up by it. Runoff increases have stressed the capacity of the creek and caused damage to areas of the park due to increased water flows during rainstorms. During heavier storms, the manhole covers have been pushed out of the storm drains because they exceed capacity.

But the city council is pro-development, led by our veneered toothed insurance salesman mayor. What was his brilliant fix for the affordable housing problem in the city? Give a national developer a waiver on zoning requirements to build a ridiculous apartment complex on the outskirts of the downtown area where the retail area meets residential neighborhoods. Some of the apartments will be single bedroom for $1000/month. But most will be multi-bedroom for up to $3000 a month. Which is a mortgage for a house in most of the city.

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2023-09-20 10:56 AM | Reply

Oh, and sometimes the garage is attached to the house, but the trend seems to be a driveway that goes to the back of the house with a garage door facing the lot line on the side of the property. A few have the standard garage in front.

Either way, it always results in higher coverage of ground with building or concrete than the previous house did.

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2023-09-20 11:03 AM | Reply

Inheritance? No way! Bootstraps am best! - MadRander

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2023-09-20 11:06 AM | Reply

Americans need to rethink their need to own a piece of the suburbs. And start looking at return to higher density alternatives.

---- that.

I would NEVER want to live boxed up on top of other people. Living like we do now, in your own house is going to be a luxury in the future.

Liberals letting in people from all other the world like we have all the space in the world when we dont. People coming from third world crowded cities coming here making our spaces crowded.

Liberalness is a mental disease.

#12 | Posted by boaz at 2023-09-21 11:18 AM | Reply

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