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After over 1,200 people were brutally murdered and over 240 taken hostage, including children and elderly, many civilians tortured and raped, the survey showed that 68 percent in the West Bank strongly supported the massacres and kidnapping, while another 16 percent supported to some extent.

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After the October 7 attacks, 98 percent felt more proud to be Palestinian.

#1 | Posted by censored at 2023-11-16 10:00 PM | Reply

"the survey showed that 68 percent in the West Bank strongly supported the massacres and kidnapping, while another 16 percent supported to some extent."

Was that just the Zionists or did they ask the Palestinians too?

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-11-16 10:05 PM | Reply

In other news the other 20% support Hamas.

#3 | Posted by oneironaut at 2023-11-16 10:12 PM | Reply

80% of Palestinians support deliberately targeting Jewish civilian women and children for rape, torture, and murder. Then they cry to the world about Jewish brutality when Palestinians are collateral damage for military operations targeting terrorists.

Same old, same old with the Palestinian playbook. And westerners fall for it every time.

#4 | Posted by censored at 2023-11-17 08:42 AM | Reply

"80% of Palestinians support deliberately targeting Jewish civilian women and children for rape, torture, and murder."

And how's the support among Zionists "settling" in the West Bank for ethnic cleansing in the West Bank?

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-11-17 08:46 AM | Reply

"Palestinians are collateral damage for military operations targeting terrorists."

Apparently that's okay with you.

Apparently you can't figure out why that's not okay with them.

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-11-17 08:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

There's no better way to make people want to attack you in whatever way they can than bombing their neighborhoods, killing and displacing their loved ones, and dominating them with an oppressive military occupation. All of which Israel has been doing to the Palestinians for generations.

#7 | Posted by ExpectingReign at 2023-11-17 09:31 AM | Reply

Palestinians are collateral damage of Hamas terrorists operations.

To ignore Hamas literally hiding behind Palestinians is to endorse Hamas terrorism.

Apparently you can't figure out why that's not okay with them.
-snoofy

What's stopping them from leaving the area of operations?

#8 | Posted by oneironaut at 2023-11-17 10:19 AM | Reply

Apparently Hamas hiding behind Palestinians is ok with you, snoofy.

Apparently you can't figure out why that's not okay with them.

#9 | Posted by oneironaut at 2023-11-17 10:21 AM | Reply

"Apparently Hamas hiding behind Palestinians is ok with you"

You're just making stuff up.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-11-17 10:30 AM | Reply

"What's stopping them from leaving the area of operations?"

The same things stopping prisoners from leaving prison.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-11-17 10:33 AM | Reply

Press Cuts Off Hurt Gazan When Talks Hamas Civilian Shields.

#12 | Posted by censored at 2023-11-17 11:26 AM | Reply

80% of the Jews hated their Nazi oppressors as well.

The other 20% realized their honesty may be held against them.

What don't you understand about the fact Gaza is an occupied territory. Akin to the Nazi ghettos.

Your inability to comprehend the history of the Israeli Palestinian conflict is astounding.

But. Critical thinking can't be achieved by those drowning by their own victimization. That you can't see the situation for what it is, is your biggest problem.

#13 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-11-17 11:33 AM | Reply

You're just making stuff up.
#10 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

He's a blood thirsty neocon who has stated several times either all Palestinians or all Israelis must die.

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-11-17 11:35 AM | Reply

"Press Cuts Off Hurt Gazan When Talks Hamas Civilian Shields."

Thanks, First Amendment!

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-11-17 11:41 AM | Reply

But. Critical thinking can't be achieved by those drowning by their own victimization. That you can't see the situation for what it is, is your biggest problem. #13 | Posted by ClownShack

Welp, so much for my ill-advised attempt to have an intelligent conversation with ClownShack.

#16 | Posted by censored at 2023-11-17 01:10 PM | Reply

I wonder what they think of the billionaire leaders of Hamas who live in luxury in Qatar, and their many millionaire underlings, while taking 20 percent on all goods coming into Gaza, but refuse to provide clean water?

There are few good guys on either side.

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#17 | Posted by Corky at 2023-11-17 01:21 PM | Reply

"I wonder what they think of the billionaire leaders of Hamas who live in luxury in Qatar, and their many millionaire underlings, while taking 20 percent on all goods coming into Gaza, but refuse to provide clean water?"

They probably think more or less what Deplorables think about Trump.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-11-17 01:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

but refuse to provide clean water?

#17 | POSTED BY CORKY

Yeah.

Why has Hamas never rolled up into Gaza with all of the materials, a ---- load of engineers, some pipe fitters, electricians, plumbers, sheet metal workers, etc and built some god damned infrastructure????

That's not the most braindead ------- thing I've read in a very long time.

Seriously.

#19 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2023-11-17 03:29 PM | Reply

I wonder what they think of the billionaire leaders of Hamas who live in luxury in Qatar, and their many millionaire underlings, while taking 20 percent on all goods coming into Gaza, but refuse to provide clean water?
There are few good guys on either side.
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#17 | POSTED BY CORKY

How do you provide clean water without being able to use cement?

#20 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-11-17 03:33 PM | Reply

so much for my ill-advised attempt to have an intelligent conversation with ClownShack.
#16 | POSTED BY CENSORED

You? The guy who keeps bringing up Jill Stein to excuse Hillary's loss and then went on to proclaim he wants the blood of Palestinians to wash the streets of Gaza, suddenly wants to pretend he's intelligent?

Who are you lying to? Yourself??

#21 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-11-17 03:53 PM | Reply

100% of Trumper's support right wing domestic terrorism.

Prove me wrong!

#22 | Posted by a_monson at 2023-11-17 07:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Let's bomb people and slaughter children based on a poll.

#23 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-11-17 10:20 PM | Reply

"What's stopping them from leaving the area of operations?"

What's stopping Palestinians from leaving Gaza?

Do you not know?

#24 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-11-18 01:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Let's bomb people and slaughter children based on a poll. #23 | POSTED BY LEGALLYYOURDEAD

No, but I think it's important that the "Cease fire now!" crowd knows exactly what they are demanding. Breathing room for people, the vast majority of whom want to commit more terror attacks.

Many of the pro-Hamas supporters say that they're actually just pro-Palestinian. But based on the facts, it appears to be pretty much the same thing.

#25 | Posted by censored at 2023-11-18 04:11 AM | Reply

Hamas had every right to attack. They are resisting slow Genocide and decades of oppression.

Fighting against state sanctioned abuses is not morally wrong.

Israel needs to Atone for past sins against their Semetic Brethren.

Hamas is not a terrorist organization, they are Freedom Fighters.

The Israeli State is the terrorist organization.

Language and framing are important.

See what I did here?

Anyone can claim moral superiority... It's all about Perspective....

Israel learned that decades ago.

It's how They Roll.

#26 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2023-11-18 05:35 AM | Reply

I'll admit that it has crossed my mind that this temporary cease fire is just Netanyahu 'going along to get along' with President Biden and that Israel, in the end, is taking advantage of the Hamas attack to do something they've wanted a legitimate excuse to do for years ~ that is to completely wipe Gaza off the face of the map.

If that's NOT the case then this bizaar Israeli overkill makes no sense at all.

Case in point: The Al-Shifa hospital. The Israeli have known about the Hamas tunnels under the hospital for years. Why didn't Israel evacuate the hospital before they blew it up?

What Israel did was inhumane beyond what any words can describe.

And President Biden's best efforts, and the best efforts of the International community, to stop the killing mean nothing to Netanyahu ~ he's busy making political points. He doesn't want a two-state solution.

#27 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-11-18 06:55 AM | Reply

Netanyahu ~ he's busy making political points. He doesn't want a two-state solution.

#27 | Posted by Twinpac

Never has, never will.

Remember the last time two-state solution talks a were serious and Sharon marched to the Temple Mount to foment violence again?

Netanyahu wants to stay out of prison. I won't be surprised if he had foreknowledge of the planned Hamas attack. Hell, W's approval ratings were in the tank when he ignored urgent warnings Al Qaeda was going to attack the U.S. with airplanes. Did they alert airport security offices and suggest they not allow anything that could be used as a weapon on a plane? Of course not.

Recall that after 9/11 Bin Laden was seen by the CIA team in Tora Bora led by Gary Berntsen - who couldn't get Washington to send Army Rangers to capture or kill him - as he watched Bin Laden and his top lieutenants walking in the open. He was told the Rangers were "going to Iraq." A country who DIDN'T attack us. Saudis did.

#28 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2023-11-18 12:21 PM | Reply

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There's going to come a time (soon, I hope) that President Biden will be forced to break ranks with Netanyahu. Not just a threat but I mean literally. Politically, the U.S. cannot continue to support this kind of carnage. Israel is no longer an ally when Netanyahu ignores the single-minded consequences his actions have on the President of the United States. Netanyahu is dependent upon U.S. protection but he's gone too far this time.

#29 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-11-18 03:56 PM | Reply

100% of European jews believe in colonization.

#30 | Posted by fresno500 at 2023-11-19 03:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Case in point: The Al-Shifa hospital. The Israeli have known about the Hamas tunnels under the hospital for years. Why didn't Israel evacuate the hospital before they blew it up?

#27 | POSTED BY TWINPAC AT 2023-11-18 06:55 AM | FLAG:

It's not blown up. Israeli Defense Force infantry have taken over the hospital, conducted a room by room search, and have been face scanning evacuees to find known Hamas members. A few were detained. Patients evacuated with 120 immobile patients and doctors to treat them remaining behind.

#31 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-11-19 02:15 PM | Reply

he's busy making political points. He doesn't want a two-state solution.
#27 | Posted by Twinpac

"They were human beings in Gaza," the audience member said.

"Yes, they were," Clinton said. "And Hamas is really smart. When they decide to rocket Israel, they insinuate themselves in the hospitals, in the schools, in the highly populous areas, and they are smart."

The line prompted applause, and he continued: "They said they try to put the Israelis in a position of either not defending themselves or killing innocents. They're good at it. They're smart. They've been doing this a long time."

"I killed myself to give the Palestinians a state. I had a deal they turned down that would have given them all of Gaza,"
www.politico.com

What did they turn down? 98% of the west bank and Gaza.

Supporting two state solution today is supporting Hamas.

#32 | Posted by oneironaut at 2023-11-19 03:49 PM | Reply

Supporting two state solution today is supporting Hamas.
#32 | POSTED BY ONENEOCON

OneNeoCon here loves him war and genocide.

Apparently wanting a solution to this decades old conflict is somehow supporting Hamas ...

... the warmongering propagandists would want you to believe.

#33 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-11-19 04:02 PM | Reply

When the two state solution is a return to 1967 borders, it is directly supporting the Hamas charter.

#34 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-11-19 04:23 PM | Reply

Oh. I get it.

Best way to dehumanize Palestinians is to make sure any support for them is painted as supporting Hamas.

You guys would have been great as the Nazi's PR team.

Hitler's biggest failure was not having an Americanpolitical party that openly supported fascism.

#35 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-11-19 04:35 PM | Reply

This conflict isn't all of Palestina. It's Gaza. Hamas vs Israel. Palestinians are meat shields, sucks to be them.

#36 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-11-19 05:25 PM | Reply

Palestinians are human beings and regardless of Gaza or West Bank, they're painted as terrorists and dehumanized by the notion that they're nothing more shields.

They're people. Mostly children.

Not sure how you can support the mass slaughter of a people who are condemned from birth and who's suffering is literally ignored.

This is our problem because we fund the Israeli government billions a year.

We are indirectly supporting the continued incarceration of the Palestinian people.

#37 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-11-19 05:30 PM | Reply

Mobiks are people too. Like Palestinians, their government doesn't give a ---- about them. Just a different kind of meat grinder.

#38 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-11-19 05:34 PM | Reply

Nothing at all alike.

Sad attempt at whataboutism.

Not sure why I expected more from you.

#39 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-11-19 05:37 PM | Reply

Former Mossad Chief Makes Shocking Claim on CNN: There's No Such Thing as 'Non-Combatant Population in the Gaza Strip' Because 'All of the Gazans Voted For Hamas'
www.mediaite.com

All of the Gazans voted for Hamas

Look at this despicable propaganda. Even AI puts this nonsense to bed:

The statement "All of the Gazans voted for Hamas" is not true. The last election in Gaza was in 2006, and since then, there have been significant demographic changes, with a large portion of the current population not having been alive at the time of that election. Additionally, it is important to note that not all Gazans support Hamas, and there are diverse political opinions within the population. Therefore, the claim that all Gazans voted for Hamas is inaccurate and does not reflect the complexity of the political landscape in Gaza.

More than half of the Gaza population is less than 18 years old. According to NPR, "Of the more than 2 million people living in Gaza, roughly half are under the age of 18." Additionally, a report by the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics states that "almost half of the population of Gaza is under 18 years of age." This demographic trend has significant implications for the region, especially in the context of the ongoing conflict and the challenges faced by the young population. In 2006, Hamas won a majority of seats, securing 74 out of 132 seats in the Palestinian Legislative Council, while Fatah won 45 seats.

Me thinks Former Mossad Chief needs a better definition of "all."

#40 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2023-11-19 06:12 PM | Reply

Nothing at all alike.

#39 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2023-11-19 05:37 PM | FLAG:

There are so many similarities it's tragic. The people that care the least about both groups, the people using them as expendable meat, are their own governments.

#41 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-11-19 07:35 PM | Reply

Apparently wanting a solution to this decades old conflict is somehow supporting Hamas ...
- clown

Singing kumbaya isn't a solution.

#42 | Posted by oneironaut at 2023-11-19 07:49 PM | Reply

Palestinians are human beings and regardless of Gaza or West Bank, they're painted as terrorists and dehumanized by the notion that they're nothing more shields.

Poppycock, do something about Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran. Otherwise innocent civilians are going to die, whine to them.

Plenty of video of reporters asking politicians to denounce Hamas and they won't.

#43 | Posted by oneironaut at 2023-11-19 08:02 PM | Reply

Lebanese don't want Hezbollah
Palestinians don't want Hamas.
Iranians don't want the Iran government.

But its Israels fault.

#44 | Posted by oneironaut at 2023-11-19 08:03 PM | Reply

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