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Many progressives, however, remain silent about such nakedly hateful invective. Which is odd. Normally, when an ethnic minority group is subjected to intimidation and abuse, progressives are the first to call out racism. So why not now? The reason, I suspect, is simple. Many of the people on these marches are non-white. And a lot of progressives are incapable of processing the idea that non-white people can be racist. They just can't compute it. They see racism as unique to white people. Such a belief is remarkably widespread in modern Left-wing circles. It even gets promoted to children. As we reported at the weekend, schools in Scotland have been supplied with books which tell children that "racism started" when "white people wanted to have more control over people who were not white", and that "being racist against white people is not a thing".

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Many progressives, however, remain silent about such nakedly hateful invective. Which is odd. Normally, when an ethnic minority group is subjected to intimidation and abuse, progressives are the first to call out racism. So why not now?

The reason, I suspect, is simple. Many of the people on these marches are non-white. And a lot of progressives are incapable of processing the idea that non-white people can be racist. They just can't compute it. They see racism as unique to white people. Such a belief is remarkably widespread in modern Left-wing circles. It even gets promoted to children. As we reported at the weekend, schools in Scotland have been supplied with books which tell children that "racism started" when "white people wanted to have more control over people who were not white", and that "being racist against white people is not a thing".

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It's an OpEd.

Take it for what it is worth.

#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-11-17 01:18 AM | Reply

"The reason, I suspect, is simple."

You suspect?
This is pure straw man.
If you want answers, just go ask them.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-11-17 01:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

When did Anti-Semitism get rebranded Anti-Jewish Racism?

Jews aren't a race... Well unless you count Sammy Davis, Jr. (:

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-11-17 01:38 AM | Reply

The reason, I suspect, is simple. Many of the people on these marches are non-white. And a lot of progressives are incapable of processing the idea that non-white people can be racist.

The author, fact, specializes in satire. Here, he fails both as an observer of reality and a writer of satire. Oops.

#4 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2023-11-17 08:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Anyone who has read what Boaz has to offer knows non-whites can be racist.

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-11-17 08:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And a lot of progressives are incapable of processing the idea that non-white people can be racist.

While your statement is true, it largely depends on your definition of "a lot". I think it more likely that history should be a better guide to understanding how non-whites "in general" feel about whites. I suspect that the collective memory of colonialism and slavery are better sources to inform people as to why many (most?) non-whites feel about whites.

Because of historical events, Non whites, generally speaking, understand oppression. They know oppression when they see it. Palestinians living in Gaza and the West Bank are oppressed. Furthermore, caging up people, be it behind bars, or in an "open air prison" leads to aberrant behaviors. Though not on the same scale of the Oct 7th atrocities committed by Hamas, CNN's Jake Tapper reported atrocities committed by Israelis.

People have long memories and will seek revenge when the opportunity presents itself. Jews having experienced the Holocaust have rightly vowed "Never Again". However, this vow is blinding them to the potential of them creating the same sentiment in Palestinians.

#6 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2023-11-17 12:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Are you Jewish, bomber?

#7 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2023-11-17 12:33 PM | Reply

If you look at incidents of actual Anti-Semitism in this country, it's not coming from Muslims or those on the left.

Incident after incident is coming from hard right, Trump supporting white supremacists.

We aren't talking about marches for a ceasefire or the rights of Palestinians or calling out the apartheid in Israel. Half the people leading those are Jewish!

We ARE talking actual acts of Anti-Semitism; violence, graffiti, calls for violence, and spreading of conspiracy theories.

What the author can't process is the difference between these marches and actual acts of Anti-Semitism.

But carry on, space laser, tin foil hat wearing hypocrites.

#8 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-11-17 12:39 PM | Reply

If you look at incidents of actual Anti-Semitism in this country, it's not coming from Muslims or those on the left.

This is false, according to the ADL there is a high correlation between anti-Semitism rising when there is a "problem" in the ME.

The rise in anti-semitism is also increasing with the rise with Arab-American population.

#9 | Posted by oneironaut at 2023-11-17 01:28 PM | Reply

"Are you Jewish, bomber?"

---- no. But I'm not sure why it would matter.

#10 | Posted by madbomber at 2023-11-17 02:58 PM | Reply

"Are you Jewish, bomber?"

---- no. But I'm not sure why it would matter.

#11 | Posted by madbomber at 2023-11-17 02:58 PM | Reply

"Incident after incident is coming from hard right, Trump supporting white supremacists."

Really?

It's the hard right chanting, "From the River to the Sea?"

IOW, Jews are OK provided they support the right narrative. Otherwise, cut their ------- heads off and burn them.

Oh, BTW, what's the delta between the hard right in killing Jews and the Palestinians?

#12 | Posted by madbomber at 2023-11-17 03:03 PM | Reply

I couldn't even read all this because it seems like the author is just slapping their preferred grievance onto a new issue.

For one, has the progressive SJW faction ever really been that vocal about issues pertaining to antisemitism or anti-Jewish rhetoric? Jews are, often, presented as rich white people, a group decidedly outside of the realm of concern for your average SJW type.

So, in the end, I'm betting the issue is being boiled down to the usual SJW fare-white colonization and oppression of non-whites.

#13 | Posted by jpw at 2023-11-17 03:30 PM | Reply

If you look at incidents of actual Anti-Semitism in this country, it's not coming from Muslims or those on the left.
This is false, according to the ADL there is a high correlation between anti-Semitism rising when there is a "problem" in the ME.
The rise in anti-semitism is also increasing with the rise with Arab-American population.

#9 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

"This is false, according to the ADL there is a high correlation between anti-Semitism rising when there is a "problem" in the ME."
By WHO? Look at the arrests.

"The rise in anti-semitism is also increasing with the rise with Arab-American population."
Are you kidding? Are you just going to ignore the last 100 years of it in this country?

Problems rising in the Middle East are just serving as air cover for you white supremacists to let loose the hate.

#14 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-11-17 03:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Censored is a good example of this writer's issues with reality.

If there is a "Stop the Genocide" rally, they call it pro-Hamas and Anti-Semitism.

#15 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-11-17 03:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Perhaps colonization is playing a part

#16 | Posted by fresno500 at 2023-11-17 07:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

A covid-denying Nazi living in Germany is going to scold the left about Jews. ---- off.

#17 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-11-17 10:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

" Incident after incident is coming from hard right, Trump supporting white supremacists."

So all of these people ripping down poster at college campuses are far right?

That's but one example. You talk out of your rear more often than you should.

#18 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-11-17 11:06 PM | Reply

Who will not replace you????

#19 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-11-17 11:23 PM | Reply

"A covid-denying Nazi living in Germany is going to scold the left about Jews. ---- off."

Are you calling me a supporter of National Socialism?

I don't think many of them stuck up for jews. In fact, Sycophant might fit that description a bit better. It doesn't seem to have a problem with the eradication of Jews...PROVIDED the eradication is carried out by the correct ethnic groups.

And I may not have been completely honest earlier. I'm not Jewish. I'm not anything. But most of my family is. And my daughter's boyfriend is Israeli. I'll refrain from mentioning his name and where he is. It's clear that more than a few who visit this site are highly antisemitic and even more ant-Israeli.

#20 | Posted by madbomber at 2023-11-18 02:40 AM | Reply

"A covid-denying Nazi living in Germany is going to scold the left about Jews. ---- off."

So...do we like National Socialists when they march is solidarity with Palestinians who also want to wipe out jewery?

Are they OK when they chant "from the river to the sea?"

Or do we still not like them?

#21 | Posted by madbomber at 2023-11-18 05:21 AM | Reply

Deacon is more of a semi-celebrity TV personality than a journalist and his conclusions are half-baked and ad hoc.
To me there doesn't seem to be any great mystery for Pro-Palestinian support among the left. For one, if not the left, who? The right isn't going to support brown people in any way, anyhow, ever. I think it is as simple as oppressor vs oppressed for most of them. The paleo-conservative theocratic desires of Palestinians ("gays for Palestine" approaches Bill Johnson levels of self-immolation) can be ignored, at least for now, for sake of the class struggle, especially in Europe where that sort of rhetoric still wins votes.

As a leftist, if I'm forced to pick a side I lean towards Israel. A world without Jews is a world I dont want to live in. For all their crimes they have The Bomb --they are Master ranked Protoss vs Bronze Terran-- and choose restraint amid an existential crisis. And they dont want to kill me, selfish, I know. If the situation were reversed and Palestinians had The Bomb they'd press the red button in half-a-heartbeat. I also appreciate that ~some Jews are able to take an aerial view and demand mercy for their Palestinian enemies while no one, 0 people in the Muslim world can muster the courage for any such reciprocity.

#22 | Posted by BluSky at 2023-11-18 09:00 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I think it is as simple as oppressor vs oppressed for most of them."

We all know a cornered animal fights back.
But nobody blames the animal for it.

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-11-18 10:26 AM | Reply

a cornered animal
It's when they are most dangerous.
If the laws of nature are to be applied they should be applied to both sides.

#24 | Posted by BluSky at 2023-11-18 11:02 AM | Reply

"It's when they are most dangerous."

And when they're protecting their babies.

Isn't the average age of a Gazan about 18?

I sure ain't a fan of dehumanizing people, but when you put it in the context of Israel has been dehumanizing the Palestinians, the Palestinians behaving like a cornered animal sure seems to make sense.

The countervailing narrative paints Palestinians as a recalcitrant child who won't accept the terms dictated by their parents, the United Nations and The West, and will remain grounded without TV privileges until he does. Which doesn't quite dehumanizile them but certainly infantilizes them.

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-11-18 11:32 AM | Reply

Isn't the average age of a Gazan about 18?
Isn't that because Palestinian women are treated as nothing more than brood mares, only useful in making more Palestinian men? Aren't 18yo Palestinians squarely in the demo of the "freedom fighters" of Oct7th?

behaving like a cornered animal sure seems to make sense
I accept the analogy and wouldn't accuse you of dehumanizing. Is such an animal capable of negotiation or deescalation? Can it be reasoned with?
A misbehaving child seems a less accurate description. Hamas, PA leadership and their militants are fully fledged adults, they understand consequences. They knew what would happen if they released injured animals into defenseless kibbutz during a Jewish holiday.

#26 | Posted by BluSky at 2023-11-18 12:07 PM | Reply

"They knew what would happen if they released injured animals into defenseless kibbutz during a Jewish holiday."

As did IDF.
IDF was nowhere to be found.
On the 50th anniversary of time they got attacked on this holiday, the guards got shot hiding under the bed. It's kinda hard to wrap my brain around that.

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-11-18 12:13 PM | Reply

Maybe because it's not their "race" they hate.

It's their "religion" they hate.

Some people on the left who promote Islam hate Jews.

Some people on the left who hate Christians hate Jews.

I think that's the crux of the matter.

This is a religious conflict, not a racial conflict.

#28 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-11-18 12:17 PM | Reply

There are religious aspects, but it is and has long been a conflict over territory, statehood, and resources.

#29 | Posted by Corky at 2023-11-18 12:20 PM | Reply

It's kinda hard to wrap my brain around that.
I wouldn't attribute malice to what was likely ordinary incompetence or complacency without evidence. Are you suggesting kind of inside-job building 7 scenario?
One of the things I can't understand: You're being "genocided and ethnically cleansed", you live in an "open air prison", you break loose, you have access to food and water and a car with a tank full of gas, there are 20-80 miles of open desert in front of you, why return to your cage?

#30 | Posted by BluSky at 2023-11-18 12:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

the crux of the matter.
Irony Flag!

#31 | Posted by BluSky at 2023-11-18 12:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"ordinary incompetence"

Feels more like extra-ordinary incompetence.

Not suggesting anything other than extraordinary incompetence.

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-11-18 02:12 PM | Reply

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