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Friday, December 01, 2023

GOP Rep. George Santos has become the sixth member to be expelled from the US House, and is the first member to be ousted in more than two decades. There were 311 votes to expel Santos -- all but four Democrats and 105 out of 219 Republicans. All four top House GOP leaders, including Speaker Mike Johnson, voted to keep Santos in Congress.

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Trump/Santos 2024!

#1 | Posted by censored at 2023-12-01 11:09 AM | Reply

Santos was expelled by a vote of 311 to 114 with 2 abstentions

#2 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2023-12-01 11:09 AM | Reply

I can't wait to see the list of Republicans who voted against his expulsion.

Now can we please have him replaced with a nice Jewish guy?

#3 | Posted by Tor at 2023-12-01 11:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Anybody find a list of how members voted. Several sites discuss the vote but not actually how each member voted. 116 didn't, disturbing.

#4 | Posted by mattm at 2023-12-01 11:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Anybody find a list of how members voted. Several sites discuss the vote but not actually how each member voted. 116 didn't, disturbing.

#4 | POSTED BY MATTM

Not really disturbing. They Ethics case isn't finalized yet and he hasn't been convicted of anything yet. So some may think its premature and sets a bad precedent. I think that's fair but there is sufficient evidence to get rid of him.

Same thing goes for Gaetz 100 times over but he is too important to Republicans.

#5 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-12-01 11:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#4

clerk.house.gov

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-12-01 11:33 AM | Reply

@#5 ... So some may think its premature and sets a bad precedent. I think that's fair but there is sufficient evidence to get rid of him. ...

This is why I had noted my preference to wait until that ethics report was released before the ouster effort went forward.

#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-12-01 11:34 AM | Reply

Thanks Lamp, my state voted as I thought they would. Tom Emmer is a nay, showing why he was unfit to be leader of the house. One Rep did vote yeh. Dean Phillips (DEM) must be out campaigning, didn't vote.

#8 | Posted by mattm at 2023-12-01 11:42 AM | Reply

I can't wait to see the list of Republicans who voted against his expulsion.

#3 | POSTED BY TOR

It includes the entire Republican House Leadership.

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2023-12-01 11:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump/Santos 2024!

#1 | POSTED BY CENSORED

The two of them could be twins.

If Santo's daddy had gifted him $400 million like Trump he'd be another Republican god.

#10 | Posted by Zed at 2023-12-01 11:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Vote breakdown
GOP 105 yea 112 nay
Dem 206 yea 2 nay 2 present

#11 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2023-12-01 11:49 AM | Reply

10

I've heard it said that had he wisely invested that 400 mil at the time, he might now be much more wealthy.

Santos is a psychopath, btw, and his Republican supporters are enablers.

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2023-12-01 12:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Comedy writers everywhere grieve.

#13 | Posted by moder8 at 2023-12-01 12:21 PM | Reply

Years ago Supreme Court Justice Abe Fortas was pressured to resign because of a scandal involving approximately $20,000 in questionable payments. 40 years later there are zero consequences for Clarence Thomas receiving potentially millions of dollars in freebies and gifts. Just not treated as that big a deal.

Today Santo was expelled for serial lying to the electorate. At the rate we are going, 40 years from now nobody will even raise an eyebrow. Lying about everything will accepted SOP for Congresspeople.

#14 | Posted by moder8 at 2023-12-01 12:24 PM | Reply

Santos proved as late as a few hours ago how popular he is in the Republican Party. Leaving out the Democrats he's still be in.

#15 | Posted by Zed at 2023-12-01 12:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

While I'm happy to see him go I don't like how it was accomplished. Just like I opposed the recall efforts against Gavin Newsome and Scott Walker. The voters chose this clown. Elections are supposed to matter.

#16 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-12-01 12:56 PM | Reply

Which begs the question----What the Hell is wrong with Republicans? I mean really. You people owe the rest of us an explanation.

#17 | Posted by Zed at 2023-12-01 12:56 PM | Reply

Elections are supposed to matter.

#15 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

I understand that there are still about 25% of the people on the Right who believe that anymore. Or believed it, ever.

#18 | Posted by Zed at 2023-12-01 12:58 PM | Reply

@#15 ... Elections are supposed to matter. ...

So are Ethics.

#19 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-12-01 01:08 PM | Reply

While I'm happy to see him go I don't like how it was accomplished. Just like I opposed the recall efforts against Gavin Newsome and Scott Walker. The voters chose this clown. Elections are supposed to matter.
#15 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Article I of the US Constitution explicitly grants each house of Congress the power to expel members and sets a 2/3 vote rule to do so.

Just more evidence that republicans hate the Constitution.

#20 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2023-12-01 01:10 PM | Reply

#18. I totally agree that if he violated law then yes by all means vote to have him removed. Honestly I haven't been paying attention to this because the guy is an absolute clown. So to clarify, if he was removed for illegalities, good. If he was removed for being a liar, well then I can think of a lot of elected officials who deserve the same treatment.

#21 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-12-01 01:23 PM | Reply

Thou shall not be a Republican and speak ill of another Republican, unless you're Matt Gaetz.

#22 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2023-12-01 01:26 PM | Reply

What's in the Ethics Report on George Santos?
www.factcheck.org

... The investigative subcommittee of the House Committee on Ethics released a 56-page report on Nov. 16 that found Rep. George Santos of New York "placed his desire for private gain above his duty to uphold the Constitution, federal law, and ethical principles."

"The ISC's investigation revealed a complex web of unlawful activity involving Representative Santos' campaign, personal, and business finances," the report said. "Representative Santos sought to fraudulently exploit every aspect of his House candidacy for his own personal financial profit."

The report, which was unanimously adopted by the full committee, accused the Republican freshman congressman of stealing from his campaign, deceiving donors, reporting fictitious campaign loans, engaging in "questionable business dealings," and lying about his background and experience. Santos also faces a federal indictment on charges of conspiracy, wire fraud, making false statements, falsifying records, credit card fraud, aggravated identity theft, money laundering and theft of public funds.

A day after the ethics report was released, the committee chairman introduced a resolution to expel Santos from the House. The Republican-controlled House is expected to consider the resolution after its Thanksgiving break. ...



Statement of the Chairman and Ranking Member of the Committee on Ethics Regarding Representative George Santos
ethics.house.gov

... Pursuant to House Rule XI Clause 3(q)(1), today the Chairman of the Committee on Ethics, Representative Michael Guest, and the Ranking Member, Representative Susan Wild, submitted a report to the House of Representatives in the Matter of Allegations Relating to Representative George Santos. The full Committee report includes the report of the Investigative Subcommittee (ISC) in this matter.

At the completion of its investigation, the ISC unanimously concluded that there was substantial evidence that Representative George Santos: knowingly caused his campaign committee to file false or incomplete reports with the Federal Election Commission; used campaign funds for personal purposes; engaged in fraudulent conduct in connection with RedStone Strategies LLC; and engaged in knowing and willful violations of the Ethics in Government Act as it relates to his Financial Disclosure (FD) Statements filed with the House. In light of the ongoing criminal investigation into Representative Santos, and the ISC's findings of additional uncharged and unlawful conduct by Representative Santos, the ISC recommended that the Committee immediately refer these allegations to the Department of Justice.

The Committee has unanimously voted to adopt the ISC's report, and with it, refer the substantial evidence of potential violations of federal criminal law to the Department of Justice for such further action as it deems appropriate. The Committee concurs with the ISC's determination that Representative Santos' conduct warrants public condemnation, is beneath the dignity of the office, and has brought severe discredit upon the House. ...


Links to the report are in that second article...

#23 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-12-01 01:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Thank you, Lamplighter. Good stuff

#24 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-12-01 01:50 PM | Reply

Great! Now if the American people would just vote out about 300 - 400 more of the corrupt hypocrites in Congress next year....

#25 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2023-12-01 01:59 PM | Reply

@#4 ... about 300 - 400 more of the corrupt hypocrites in Congress ...

Is there evidence of illegalities?


#26 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-12-01 04:33 PM | Reply

Obligatory.

images.dailykos.com

#27 | Posted by Reinheitsgebot at 2023-12-01 05:04 PM | Reply

He doesn't get benafits does he?

#28 | Posted by Tor at 2023-12-01 05:06 PM | Reply

He doesn't get benafits does he?

#7 | POSTED BY TOR

Nope

#29 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-12-01 05:11 PM | Reply

Gotta love his parting words. So caring. So patriotic. So Republican.

Before the vote:

"It's Gods will. It's in His hands and I will do whatever He decides!"

After the vote to expel him:

"To hell with this place!"

"And (to the press trying to get his response to his expulsion) since I don't work here any more I don't have to answer any more of your questions!"

#30 | Posted by donnerboy at 2023-12-01 05:32 PM | Reply

Santos broke the only rule the GOP enforces, don't talk to the press about their secret sexual lives.

#31 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-12-01 05:38 PM | Reply

So to clarify, if he was removed for illegalities, good. If he was removed for being a liar, well then I can think of a lot of elected officials who deserve the same treatment.

#21 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

That fact that apparently this snuck up on you or you didn't follow this until now says volumes about you or your sources for news.

They are both related. He lied to cover up his crimes. Even after they were exposed and he was charged he continues to lie. Even now.

He was honest about one thing he said about himself in his defense. He was a good Republican and had good record for supporting republicans (Trumpy). Like maybe that might save him in the end.

Oops. It didn't.

#32 | Posted by donnerboy at 2023-12-01 05:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Georgie Porgie stole the pie
Next to prison ... cya, bye!

#33 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2023-12-01 05:49 PM | Reply

Bye Felicia

#34 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2023-12-01 05:55 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The only reason the republicans voted to expel him was so that he wouldn't be in the news next fall.

#35 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-12-01 06:16 PM | Reply

Bye Felicia

#34 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

I liked the drudge headline bold and in red .

"Sashay away!"

#36 | Posted by donnerboy at 2023-12-01 06:26 PM | Reply

Santos stole from republican congressman from Ohio and his mother.

#21 is here to tell you he's no different than the rest of them.

#37 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2023-12-01 06:27 PM | Reply

I would never have believed it. Is he hawking his book on Hannity yet? What happens with his seat?

#38 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-12-01 06:31 PM | Reply

@#38 ... What happens with his seat? ...

Local coverage...

Special election to be held after Rep. George Santos expelled from Congress
abc7ny.com

... The House has expelled George Santos in a historic vote and now many are left wondering what happens next.

Gov. Kathy Hochul has 10 days to schedule a special election, which must then be held 70 to 80 days after her announcement. Both parties expect a mid to late February vote.

Shortly after Friday's vote, Hochul posted on social media that she is "prepared to undertake the solemn responsibility of filling the vacancy in New York's 3rd district."

She went on to say that the people of Long Island deserve nothing less. ...


#39 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-12-01 06:41 PM | Reply

I'm hoping that they wash his seat with the same disinfectant they use in the CDC on lab monkeys cages.

After all George Santos was patient zero when typhoid came to America.

#40 | Posted by Tor at 2023-12-01 06:46 PM | Reply

I would never have believed it. Is he hawking his book on Hannity yet? What happens with his seat?

#38 | POSTED BY REDIAL

My wife predicted he will write a book and get on with FoxNews.

The Governor gets to call for a special election. It's is very possible that Republicans will lose this seat to a Democrat. Biden won in this district.

#41 | Posted by donnerboy at 2023-12-01 06:47 PM | Reply

@#41 ... It's is very possible that Republicans will lose this seat to a Democrat. Biden won in this district. ...

From what I've seen (and do note that I usually just pay partial attention to the local NYC evening news when they go local.) ...

The seat had been a long-time Democratic hold but, for some reason, ex-Rep Santos won it in the prior election.

My understanding is that the Democrat who lost the seat to ex-Rep Santos is thinking of running again.

Do keep in mind my parenthetical comment earlier in this comment).

#42 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-12-01 06:57 PM | Reply

Makes me wonder if he has any more "gay for pay" antics up his sleeve.Next stop porn movies.

#43 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2023-12-01 07:03 PM | Reply

Fetterman: "We have a colleague in the Senate that's actually done much more sinister kinds of things. He needs to go. If you are going to expel Santos, how can you allow Menendez to remain in the Senate? Menendez is really a Senator for Egypt, not New Jersey."

Whats he talking about?

#44 | Posted by oneironaut at 2023-12-01 07:06 PM | Reply

You should try educating yourself

#45 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-12-01 07:09 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Federal prosecutors for the Southern District of Manhattan have charged Menendez with conspiracy to commit bribery, conspiracy to commit honest services fraud, conspiracy to commit extortion and conspiracy for a public official to act as a foreign agent.

#46 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-12-01 07:11 PM | Reply

I too have heard that the former Congressman representing that district is planning to run again. As for the future of George Santos it involves more crimes large and small but all stupid as hell that will only end when he's in a jail cell and I have no doubt while in prison he will continue to engage in crime and lie constantly.

#47 | Posted by Tor at 2023-12-01 07:12 PM | Reply

The only real thing that has protected Santos from being expelled before was that the GOP needed every vote they could to pass their agenda. It will now be much harder to pull that off since there was little leeway in votes to begin with.

What a Christmas present this was, to see someone booted out for lying and stealing. Now if that could just carry over to the rest of Congress...

#48 | Posted by BBQ at 2023-12-01 07:26 PM | Reply

Whats he talking about?

#44 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT AT

A criminal who keeps getting elected and needs to go.

#49 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2023-12-01 07:41 PM | Reply

Much is being said about Santos' ouster setting a bad precedent. It was also a bad precedent when the SCOTUS overturned Roe v Wade but conservatives on the SCOTUS did it anyway. Recently it seems that precedent only matters until it doesn't.

#50 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2023-12-01 07:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Democrats have kept his eminence the Egyptian Sen Menendez around through thick and thin in spite of much more egregious behavior for decades.

The odd thing about George Santos is he acts and looks just like a Democrat. If you didnt know, you would swear he is a Democrat. Perhaps this was rigged.

#51 | Posted by Robson at 2023-12-01 07:49 PM | Reply

Don't worry Robson no matter what Democrats do you'll always be Putin's special beach.

#52 | Posted by Tor at 2023-12-01 07:52 PM | Reply

He doesn't get benafits does he?

#28 | POSTED BY TOR

Give it a few months and we will hopefully find her is receiving free government funded housing, meals and healthcare courtesy of bureau of prisons

#53 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2023-12-01 08:03 PM | Reply

Much is being said about Santos' ouster setting a bad precedent...

#50 | POSTED BY FEDUPWITHPOLS

People who say that should be asked to explain why the standard for public service should be "they haven't been convicted". Why should elected officials not be held to a higher standard than say the security guard at my local gas station?

#54 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2023-12-01 08:12 PM | Reply

George Santos could do something useful for society like volunteer for shock therapy to see if that stems his tendency to lie cheat and steal.

#55 | Posted by Tor at 2023-12-01 08:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

This means MTG is once again the weirdest looking dude in congress.

#56 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2023-12-01 08:49 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

Robson is a ------- clown. Take your -------- to "X", where no one cares about the truth.

#57 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-12-01 09:22 PM | Reply

@#51 ... Democrats have kept his eminence the Egyptian Sen Menendez around through thick and thin in spite of much more egregious behavior for decades....

The Democrats have called for his resignation. He refused. So what can they do?

I am waiting for the Ethics Committee investigation, just as I waited for that investigation for Rep Santos.

Oh wait...

The Menendez Indictment Reveals Exactly How Senate Ethics Enforcement is Broken
campaignlegal.org

... But these repeated offenses beg the question: Is the Senate incapable of finding and rooting out potential corruption before it becomes a crime?

The answer seems likely to be yes. Unlike the House of Representatives and every major executive branch agency, the Senate has no independent body that is dedicated to investigating ethics violations, fraud, waste, or abuse.

The ethics process in the Senate is a black box: A concerned citizen or Senate colleague could file a complaint with the Senate Select Committee on Ethics (Ethics Committee), but there is no public process for bringing that complaint through an investigation and to a resolution.

The Ethics Committee, while bipartisan, is still comprised of members of the Senate tasked with investigating and punishing their colleagues, on whom they rely for getting critical votes for legislation in a closely divided chamber.

This system does not work. A recent study found that of the 1,523 complaints sent to the Senate Ethics Committee since 2007, zero resulted in any formal disciplinary sanctions over 15 years. This is a pervasive ethics enforcement problem in the Senate that has flown under the radar for far too long, and it will only become worse unless we put a stop to the status quo of self-policing. ...


#58 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-12-01 09:35 PM | Reply

The charges against Santos were not an ethical problem until he broke the rule of silence about other members "going home at night to sleep with their mistresses."

Now, if Santos is true to his "type" he'll be looking to get his revenge ASAP while the story is still hot. He'll have an urgent need to drag the House GOP down to his level to prove he's not the only low-life in Congress. He'll try to claim that there are others much worse. However, my guess is, when pressed, he won't mention any names.

#59 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-12-01 09:37 PM | Reply

He's a ------- clown. He knows Jack ----. Personally.

#60 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-12-01 11:16 PM | Reply

He's also puffed up with self-importance as a shield against the slurs and effeminate innuendoes that he's heard most of his life.

So yeah, he'll be out for revenge. The House just declared him a lesser person, not fit to be among them. He'll take that personally.

#61 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-12-02 03:07 AM | Reply

DR fascists:

Well, he didn't "technically" break any laws, and wasn't convicted of anything, but IF he was GUILTY, maybe he deserved it. But Al Franken TOTALLY deserved to be tarred and feathered!

#62 | Posted by chuffy at 2023-12-02 04:22 AM | Reply

CHUFFY

Santos had a lot more wrong with him than just breaking laws.

You see, according to the hard-core right, when Trump becomes Dictator-in-Chief they intend to round up all gay people and put them in a prison camp, turning big rocks into little rocks.

They couldn't do that if Santos was one of own. He had to go.

#63 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-12-02 05:12 AM | Reply

-It's is very possible that Republicans will lose this seat to a Democrat. Biden won in this district.

And yet somehow the democrats were defeated by this moron.

This is a seat the dems can win?

Then how on earth did this guy get elected the first time?

Did the dems run someone? Look into this jackass's background and expose him BEFORE he got elected?

This slays me ... ... in the Information Age we live in ... ..how does this happen?

This wasn't a state rep or school board or county commission

The US House of Rep.

Where was the Democratic Party leadership? Aren't there dozens of folks who's only job is to monitor congressional seats so an opportunity like this doesn't pass by?

#64 | Posted by eberly at 2023-12-02 09:50 AM | Reply

"And yet somehow the democrats were defeated by this moron."

Yeah, Republican voters are like that.
Competency terrifies them.
Exhibit A: Hillary.

#65 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-12-02 10:34 AM | Reply

"Did the dems run someone? Look into this jackass's background and expose him BEFORE he got elected?"

Taking Trump as a baseline, why wouldn't Santos be just viable?

#66 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-12-02 10:35 AM | Reply

Let me be clear, the DNC has to know how badly they screwed up.

Voters who show up to vote can only make the choice in front of them. They don't get draft the ballot. Just make a choice and go home.

If this is a hard core red district then it wouldn't have mattered what a moron this guy was even if he had been exposed before the election.

But apparently this isn't that red of a district.

#67 | Posted by eberly at 2023-12-02 10:42 AM | Reply

"Let me be clear, the DNC has to know how badly they screwed up."

Yet the Republicans just lost the seat...
You're kinda fixated on the wrong thing, did you know that?

#68 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-12-02 10:50 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And this is no way am I making an excuse for the GOP running this clown.

The RNC is negligent for this but quite frankly, I don't expect anything better from them.

However, I do have expectations from the Democratic Party.

#69 | Posted by eberly at 2023-12-02 10:55 AM | Reply

The lifelong Republican holds the other party to a higher standard than his own.

That might be the most White Privilege Republican Thing you've ever done around here. Really cements your legacy, Eberly.

#70 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-12-02 10:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Then how on earth did this guy get elected the first time?"

He didn't. His fake plastic character got elected.

They elected a lie.

I believe that is the point. In. In case you missed it.

#71 | Posted by donnerboy at 2023-12-02 11:32 AM | Reply

Either Democrats nor Republicans properly vetted George Santos because he's gay.

#72 | Posted by Tor at 2023-12-02 11:48 AM | Reply

-He didn't. His fake plastic character got elected.

I live in a world where lies need to be challenged BEFORE they harm others.

It's as if some of you expect to be perpetual victims of something or someone. You have zero standards

#73 | Posted by eberly at 2023-12-02 12:27 PM | Reply

His fake plastic character got elected.

He was smart enough not to pretend he had military service. That always gets scrutinized by everyone.

#74 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-12-02 12:30 PM | Reply

-Either Democrats nor Republicans properly vetted George Santos because he's gay.

Seriously?

It just gets better ... ... .

#75 | Posted by eberly at 2023-12-02 12:40 PM | Reply

That first word should be neither.

#76 | Posted by Tor at 2023-12-02 01:24 PM | Reply

As Karl Rove, a political trickster, once retorted ~ Republican voters are really stupid.

#77 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-12-02 02:27 PM | Reply

#26 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

I think there is evidence against a significant number of them. Lots of luck getting anyone to do anything about it.

#78 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2023-12-02 02:52 PM | Reply

somehow the democrats were defeated by this moron.

Are you talking about Trump or Santos?

They both lied, got people hyped up about the person they saw in front of the cameras and ignored everything else about them.

Liberals and independents don't necessarily vote for the Democratic Party.

Party allegiance tends to be more of a conservative trait.

I'm not in his district so I'm not sure who the alternative was.

But the Democratic Party is a bit tone deaf when it come to hearing the changing nation.

#79 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-12-02 02:56 PM | Reply

en.m.wikipedia.org

I remember we had a little fun over this incident.

Voters are morons to be sure.

And George Santos is a great example

#80 | Posted by eberly at 2023-12-02 03:01 PM | Reply

-Are you talking about Trump or Santos?

They both lied, got people hyped up about the person they saw in front of the cameras and ignored everything else about them.

The salient difference is that nobody was unaware of trumps transgressions before the election.

The democrats had a chance to inform the voters of them.

Not the same with santos.

Wound the result had been the same regardless?

It's possible and as you stated, Party loyalty is why.

#81 | Posted by eberly at 2023-12-02 03:20 PM | Reply

Did the dems run someone? Look into this jackass's background and expose him BEFORE he got elected...
Where was the Democratic Party leadership...
#64 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Let me be clear, the DNC has to know how badly they screwed up.
Voters who show up to vote can only make the choice in front of them. They don't get draft the ballot.
#67 | POSTED BY EBERLY

They literally do get to draft the ballot. Voters can recruit and finance candidates to run. They can vote in primaries and they can refuse to vote for a candidate even if the person is put up by the party they normally support. Santos won in a district that was newly redrawn to favor republicans. It was the GOP who knew before the election that he had people impersonating Kevin McCarthy's staff members. It was GOP officials who endorsed him. It was GOP donors who financed him. It was GOP voters who nominated and elected him despite the reports in local media that exposed many of his lies.

Why is it so often that when horrible republican candidate win or come close to winning there are republicans blaming Democrats? They tried this when Raphael Warnock fell just short of 50% in the Georgia Senate election which then resulted in a runoff with Herschel Walker. The blamed Democrats for Kevin McCarthy and now they blame them for Mike Johnson. They tried it with Trump saying it's Dems fault for nominating perhaps the most qualified candidate for President in the history of the country, Hillary CLinton.

This is typical backwards conservative thinking. From their trickle down economics, to their claims that lies are just alternative facts and their general anti-science stance, they are just a collective group of nonsensical ignoramuses. Stop blaming Democrats for the failings of the GOP.

#82 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2023-12-02 03:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I'd give #82 a second newsworthy if I could.

#83 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-12-02 03:58 PM | Reply

-They literally do get to draft the ballot.

What did you draft into the ballot you last voted in, Johnny?

Did you insert any of the candidates?

Which ones? How about the local issues even? Did you draft the school bond issue (if there was one) or a sales tax incentive, or a referendum on a local ordinance?

Tell us how you drafted any of that, Johnny.

We'll wait.

#84 | Posted by eberly at 2023-12-02 04:08 PM | Reply

"I'd give #82 a second wipe if I could."

FT

#85 | Posted by eberly at 2023-12-02 04:09 PM | Reply

-Why is it so often that when horrible republican candidate win or come close to winning there are republicans blaming Democrats?

I'm only faulting the leadership in the Democratic Party. Not all democrats.

I didn't say ---- about the walker race.

#86 | Posted by eberly at 2023-12-02 04:18 PM | Reply

#84 | POSTED BY EBERLY

In fact yes, I have helped draft ballot issues. I've worked on campaigns. I even helped persuade a friend to run for city council in Arnold Mo and I helped the effort to collect the signatures to get his name on the ballot. And beyond that every time I donate to a primary candidate or vote for one or sign a petition or write to an elected official or speak at a council meeting to attempt to get an issue on the ballot I am helping craft the ballot.

#87 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2023-12-02 04:36 PM | Reply

"Why is it so often that when horrible republican candidate win or come close to winning there are republicans blaming Democrats? They tried this when Raphael Warnock fell just short of 50% in the Georgia Senate election which then resulted in a runoff with Herschel Walker. The blamed Democrats for Kevin McCarthy and now they blame them for Mike Johnson. They tried it with Trump saying it's Dems fault for nominating perhaps the most qualified candidate for President in the history of the country, Hillary CLinton. "

Maybe your problem is that you can't agree with republicans even when you want to.

These ARE mistakes on the part of Democratic Party. You know it. It's obvious.

And this in no way excuses the republicans for their desire to put this ------- on the ballot.

#88 | Posted by eberly at 2023-12-02 04:37 PM | Reply

-In fact yes, I have helped draft ballot issues.

Anything to save face, I guess.

If that's true then what makes you think you can determine who the DNC or the DCCC selects to support and run?

That's who screwed this up. And I assure you they know it.

You can defend them if you want but they know it. I would even think multiple people were fired or resigned over it.

#89 | Posted by eberly at 2023-12-02 06:12 PM | Reply

This slays me ... ... in the Information Age we live in ... ..how does this happen?

#64 | Posted by eberly
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We're still wondering that ourselves. Look at all the MAGAs that are fooled into following the orange turnip.

#90 | Posted by BBQ at 2023-12-02 06:14 PM | Reply

Maybe your problem is that you can't agree with republicans even when you want to.
#88 | POSTED BY EBERLY

There you go again, blaming Democrats for republican failures.

I have no problem at all agreeing with republicans when they have sound policy. For instance, right now I agree with the Republicans who voted to expel Santos. I even wrote a note to my GOP Rep Anne Wagner thanking her for doing so. I agree with Operation Warp Speed when Trump was President. I agree with the Republicans who voted to keep government open. I agreed with Romneycare and W's bailout of US Automakers and his efforts to fight HIV in Africa. I also have no problem calling Democrats out when I think they are wrong. For instance, Sen Bob Menendez should resign. That's a few I share with the majority of Democrats in the Senate. I'm also not afraid to say that Dems squandered their best chance to make a real positive difference in the life of average Americans when they failed to include a public option in the affordable care act.

But none of that justifies the Republican party in nominating and in some cases electing obvious frauds, liars and criminals like Santos, Gaetz, Walker, Oz, Paxton, Boebert, Comer, Trump, the entire GOP caucus of the Alabama state house and the list goes on. None of that justifies supporting a party who's leading candidate for President refused to engage in a peaceful transition of power and staged a coup attempt after he lost re-election. The Republican party is so full of criminals that Trump pardoned 4 GOP House members before he left off. Nor does any of that justify supporting a party that has accomplished exactly zero during this past year they've held the majority other than barely managing to keep the lights of government on and becoming the first ever to vote out their Speaker.

Have you ever asked yourself what it is about the GOP that draws in candidates that are so bad they can't even form a functioning a government?

#91 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2023-12-02 06:15 PM | Reply

While I'm happy to see him go I don't like how it was accomplished.
#16 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Funny you say that because I could have sworn you supported the Tennessee legislature when they expelled Justin Jones and Justin Pearson

#92 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2023-12-02 06:17 PM | Reply

-blaming Democrats for republican failures.

So democrats made no mistake. They couldn't have prevented this. Nobody could have spent a minimal amount of time investigating santos and finding at meat some of these lies and have a decent candidate running against him.

Got it.

There isn't enough intelligence or work ethic within the Democratic Party to have jumped on this opportunity.

Just let the republicans pick whomever they want, be quiet, pay no attention, and just let the republicans have whatever they want.

Get ------ serious. You expected the democrats to go after Hershel walker and if they hadn't, he would have won.

Thank god they challenged that successfully.

But you don't expect the same people to challenge Santos?

Just cry about republicans after losing.

Have you ever won in your life.

You appear to love losing.

#93 | Posted by eberly at 2023-12-02 06:34 PM | Reply

"Have you ever asked yourself what it is about the GOP that draws in candidates that are so bad they can't even form a functioning a government?"

Yeah but I don't have a great answer.

#94 | Posted by eberly at 2023-12-02 06:35 PM | Reply

"I have no problem at all agreeing with republicans when they have sound policy. For instance, right now I agree with the Republicans who voted to expel Santos. I even wrote a note to my GOP Rep Anne Wagner thanking her for doing so. I agree with Operation Warp Speed when Trump was President. I agree with the Republicans who voted to keep government open. I agreed with Romneycare and W's bailout of US Automakers and his efforts to fight HIV in Africa. I also have no problem calling Democrats out when I think they are wrong. For instance, Sen Bob Menendez should resign. That's a few I share with the majority of Democrats in the Senate. I'm also not afraid to say that Dems squandered their best chance to make a real positive difference in the life of average Americans when they failed to include a public option in the affordable care act."

You're objective but you can't be on this issue?

#95 | Posted by eberly at 2023-12-02 06:37 PM | Reply

An NBC News analysis of Santos' legislative record shows that he introduced 40 bills or resolutions during his short career; that's roughly average for a member of Congress, according to Brookings Institution statistics. The House did not act on any of them, and all died in committee without a vote. What's more unusual is that Santos convinced only one of his colleagues to sign on to any of his 40 bills " Rep. Paul Gosar, R-Ariz., who backed Santos' "Defund the CCP on Campus Act of 2023" (referring to the Chinese Communist Party).

Looks like he may as well have been working from home.

#96 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-12-02 07:24 PM | Reply

"George Santos is having a better year than Ron DeSantis."

~ James Carville ~

#97 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2023-12-02 09:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

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