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Christian Paz: A prominent Republican strategist is trying to convince the world that voters of color are shifting to the GOP. Is he overselling it?

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... magine this: January 20, 2025. Donald Trump has just been sworn in as president " again. He didn't steal the election; no frivolous lawsuits in swing states. He won fair and square, buoyed by historic levels of support from Black and Latino voters.

And that's not all: Trump's gains aren't limited to GOP-leaning states like Florida and Texas. They appear everywhere " a scary harbinger for Democrats of things to come: a generational realignment that sees Republicans building a multiracial working-class coalition that hands them control of the White House for years to come.

That's one future envisioned by Patrick Ruffini, a Republican pollster and strategist, in his book Party of the People: Inside the Multiracial Populist Coalition Remaking the GOP.

The dream starts from a very real place: 2020 was (or at least should have been) a wake-up call for Democrats. Trump improved on his 2016 performance with a host of nonwhite voters, most dramatically cutting into the traditional advantage Democrats have had with Latino and Hispanic voters. Those gains were most obvious in Florida (which was called early on election night) and Texas " but they materialized across the US, irrespective of Latin American heritage, in swing states and safely blue states, and happened as Latino voter turnout surged to unprecedented levels.

Those gains generally stuck during the 2022 midterms: Republicans held about 39 percent of the national Latino vote, according to exit polls.

And recent polling shows Biden is consistently struggling to keep the support of Black and Latino voters in theoretical match-ups against Trump and other GOP candidates. ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-12-01 07:14 PM | Reply

Nope. They are a party of racists.

#2 | Posted by a_monson at 2023-12-01 07:45 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

@#2

But people have been shown to vote against their own interests, e.g., the support for Republicans by lower and middle-class workers.

I'm not convinced this can be explained away so easily.

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-12-01 07:53 PM | Reply

Trump has been very careful in his word coded messages to the public not to just come out and say what he really means. Instead it they are always crouched in vague terms, said in such a way you really can't miss what he means without him saying it.

It leaves open a wide space for those that don't just get it to support him.

#4 | Posted by BBQ at 2023-12-01 08:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"people have been shown to vote against their own interests, e.g., the support for Republicans by lower and middle-class workers."

Black people will support trump at about the same rate that they use to own slaves where it was legal.

Was it common? no.

But it did happen and wouldn't you know it it was most common among rich black people same as with black trump supporters.

#5 | Posted by Tor at 2023-12-01 08:08 PM | Reply

@#4 ... Trump has been very careful in his word coded messages to the public ...

When he reads from the teleprompter, yup.

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-12-01 08:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump has been very careful in his word coded messages to the public not to just come out and say what he really means. Instead it they are always crouched in vague terms, said in such a way you really can't miss what he means without him saying it. [...] #4 | Posted by BBQ

I guess. Although it seemed pretty clear to me what Trump was saying with: ""When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're sending people that have a lot of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

But then Trump got about 30% of the Latino vote in 2016 and 2020.

#7 | Posted by censored at 2023-12-01 08:48 PM | Reply

@#7 ... But then Trump got about 30% of the Latino vote in 2016 and 2020....

Yup.

That goes back to my @3.

That 30%, do they realize that fmr Pres Trump dislikes them as much as the other 70%?


#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-12-01 09:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Ask Michael Steele.

#9 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2023-12-02 07:39 AM | Reply

Fascism abhors "multi-racial" anything.

#10 | Posted by Zed at 2023-12-02 08:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

That 30%, do they realize that fmr Pres Trump dislikes them as much as the other 70%?

#8 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

They are exactly like Trump-

1) It is inexplicable to them that anyone could not love them.

2) In the heart of hearts they fear that no one loves them at all.

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2023-12-02 08:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The Republican Party multi-cultural?

About as multi-cultural as Hitler's Nazi Germany in the 1940's.

And not as long as there's a steerage class ticket available on a slow boat to Afrida.

#12 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-12-03 03:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Can the GOP Really Become a Multiracial Coalition

Sure, here's the first step:
Texas GOP Rejects Ban on Associating with Nazis
drudge.com

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-12-03 04:11 PM | Reply

OpEd: Can the GOP Really Become a Multiracial Coalition?

They're only accept them as long as they're white skinned.

#15 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2023-12-03 08:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

A disturbing amount of immigrants are anti-immigrant. Seriously. Someone who understands that have a distinct advantage over someone who does not.

As long as the leaders of a party think that everyone thinks just like them, they will lose. The people who are trying to keep this from becoming a fascist dictatorship would do good to run all of their messaging to voters by 4th graders. If the 4th grader doesn't get it, dumb it down until they do. Then the messaging is ready for the electorate at large. The smart people will get it, and the majority of voters will get it too.

#16 | Posted by bus_driver at 2023-12-03 10:18 PM | Reply

Sure they can be multiracial...there are certainly people of all groups who are in it for the greed. Just give them a few bucks and a Trump hat , and they will be fine, though they won't be representing anyone but their own pocketbook.

#17 | Posted by Hughmass at 2023-12-04 06:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

A Latino I know who is now pro Trump (or maybe just anti Democrat) is, as far as I can tell, solely that way because of the Trans issue. It would not surprise me if that is a more widespread cause.

#18 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2023-12-04 03:21 PM | Reply

#5 Tor Also, I heard a reporter ask a black Rapper why he supported Trump. He basically said it had to do with paying less taxes. In other words, it's about the money.

#19 | Posted by Ronnie68 at 2023-12-04 05:16 PM | Reply

"Although it seemed pretty clear to me what Trump was saying with: ""When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're sending people that have a lot of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
#7 | POSTED BY CENSORED"

80% of the girls crossing illegally are raped along the way - someone is doing the raping...please tell the class who that would be please.

#20 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-12-04 10:30 PM | Reply

"80% of the girls crossing illegally are raped along the way"

Link to credible proof, please.

#21 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-12-04 10:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Link to credible proof, please.
#21 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

I don't feel like being the only person that actually provides links to my statements on this board. So, you can look up Fusion 80% raped or if you want another number, you can look up the Amnesty International report at 60% which was from an earlier period. But, you can go use Google yourself.

#22 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-12-04 10:55 PM | Reply

"...you can look up Fusion 80% raped or if you want another number, you can look up the Amnesty International report at 60% "

Fusion wasn't doing their own reporting, they were "reporting" on the Amnesty report.

#23 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-12-04 11:07 PM | Reply

""...you can look up Fusion 80% raped or if you want another number, you can look up the Amnesty International report at 60% "
Fusion wasn't doing their own reporting, they were "reporting" on the Amnesty report.
#23 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Don't care really. Let's take the 60% number:

"60% of the girls crossing illegally are raped along the way - someone is doing the raping...please tell the class who that would be please."

Go ahead and answer now.

#24 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-12-04 11:38 PM | Reply

"Don't care really. Let's take the 60% number"

Thanks for admitting your 80% claim was bullschitt.

#25 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-12-05 02:07 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Danforth,

If that 60% number is accurate it's a horrific number.

#26 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-12-05 02:31 AM | Reply

If the eighty percent number was a lie. What makes the sixty percentage number the truth??

#27 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2023-12-05 04:05 AM | Reply

"Thanks for admitting your 80% claim was bullschitt.
#25 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Never said it was 'bullschitt' - just not worth arguing about this point if you accept the 60% number from Amnesty International instead as my point is that SOMEONE is raping the 60% of the girls crossing the border. So, for the 3rd time - who is doing the raping?

#28 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-12-05 05:03 AM | Reply

"If the eighty percent number was a lie. What makes the sixty percentage number the truth??
#27 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR"

The 80% number is NOT a lie. It was the number reported by Fusion based on interviews with shelter workers. The 60% number is from Amnesty International. The 60% or 80% is minutiae - the question is, who is doing all the raping?

#29 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-12-05 05:04 AM | Reply

They can indeed become a multiracial co-coalition. All it will take is a complete replacement of all congress critters in office now, so that the makeup of the members reflect that change. Short of that, it's not likely.

#30 | Posted by BBQ at 2023-12-05 11:20 AM | Reply

"who is doing the raping?"

Probably a small cadre of traffickers. Meanwhile you're pretending it's every immigrant.

Fact is, immigrants on the whole are more law-abiding than the folks already here.

And your 80% claim was bullschitt, as was pretending you were talking about two different studies, instead of the same study, reported twice.

Luckily, I demanded a link to proof.

#31 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-12-05 11:21 AM | Reply

" If that 60% number is accurate it's a horrific number."

Agreed.

But you'll agree 60% IS NOT 80%, won't you?

Or is that too much Actual Math for you?

#32 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-12-05 11:23 AM | Reply

60% is not 80%. Not sure why you are getting snippy with me about this.

#33 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-12-05 11:36 AM | Reply

If the Republican Party ever were to be a Party open to minorities, gays, lesbians, women, migrants and diversity in general, it simply would no longer be the Republican Party as it currently defines itself through all it's actions. It would be something new. Maybe good. Maybe bad. But no longer the GOP.

#34 | Posted by moder8 at 2023-12-05 12:18 PM | Reply

I don't feel like being the only person that actually provides links to my statements on this board.

Just say "I was full of ---" next time.

#35 | Posted by Nixon at 2023-12-05 12:31 PM | Reply

"And your 80% claim was bullschitt, as was pretending you were talking about two different studies, instead of the same study, reported twice.
#31 | POSTED BY DANFORTH A"

You got a link to back up that claim? The 80% is from Fusion based on their OWN interviews - it is different from the Amnesty International report because THEY ARE DIFFERENT REPORTS.

But, by all means, give us a link that states clearly the Fusion report was simply them mis-stating the Amnesty International numbers -------.

#36 | Posted by Claudio at 2023-12-05 06:48 PM | Reply

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