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Sunday, December 03, 2023

Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.) said Sunday that the GOP is "making progress" with Democrats over a bill on border security.

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... "We are making progress on this," Lankford told ABC's George Stephanopoulos on "This Week." "This is exceptionally important. When the administration actually put out their national security package, they asked for funding for Israel, for Ukraine, for Taiwan and for the border."

"And then literally two days later, after they put that proposal out in their request, they also put out a piece saying that the border funding element would be, quote-unquote -- this was their term -- a tourniquet.' What they really need is a change in policy, because that's the biggest issue that they need," he continued.

A bipartisan group of Senate negotiators has been meeting over recent weeks to reach a consensus on a deal that would change immigration law in exchange for another round of Ukraine funding. However, some Senate Democrats have already sounded the alarm over the direction of the border talks.

Lankford pointed to statements made by Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas that suggested that the Biden administration wants to see "changes in policies so we can actually secure the border." ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-12-03 03:48 PM | Reply

Is there a problem at our southern border?

Yes, but that problem is the symptom, not the root cause.

What is the root cause?

And how do we solve that root cause?

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-12-03 07:33 PM | Reply

Even if this makes it through both chambers (it probably won't) it would then have to survive a veto (it will probably be vetoed if it miraculously passes congress). If for some reason it makes it through congress and Biden signs it he won't enforce it so it's all moot.

#3 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-12-04 11:33 AM | Reply

What is the root cause?

And how do we solve that root cause?

#2 | Posted by LampLighter
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We've thrown a lot of money at it, which has seemed to have disappeared without any real change. We've sent special forces as well as advisors, thrown diplomats at it, and nothing has really made any difference in the flood coming to the border. Those migrants are looking for either economic benefits or personal safety as the main key reasons.

I saw an article some days ago, saying something to the effect that some of the migrants are considering leaving the US in favor of Mexico, where they can actually work for income, since the US will not allow them to work while waiting for their years long wait for court. For them the American dream does not exist, as they thought it did.

This is similar to the flood hitting the EU as well. Unless you want to invade the globe to remove all the various dictators, gangs, and other disruptions, the source isn't going to stop. They are all eyeing first world countries as the mecca out of their various woes. The only thing I can see to slow it down is make it to where such are not eligible for any benefits, making the flood undesirable. Revolution in each country by it's own citizens seems to be the only real answer, to change the existing conditions for something a bit more workable. Another country coming in to establish some sort of order won't work. Lord the US has tried that over and over, with little or no results, other than animosity against the US.

#4 | Posted by BBQ at 2023-12-05 11:34 AM | Reply

it's all moot.

#3 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

But it's a great excuse for Republicans to not help Ukrainians stand up to Russian aggression or pass aid to Israel tho.

#5 | Posted by donnerboy at 2023-12-06 12:27 PM | Reply

@#4 ... We've thrown a lot of money at it, which has seemed to have disappeared without any real change. We've sent special forces as well as advisors, thrown diplomats at it, and nothing has really made any difference in the flood coming to the border. ...

An excerpt from the Border Patrol Union webpage that was deleted during fmr Pres Trump's term:
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  • Walls and fences are temporary solutions that focus on the symptom (illegal immigration) rather than the problem (employers who knowingly hire illegal aliens).

  • Walls and fences are only a speed bump. People who want to come to the United States to obtain employment will continue to go over, under, and around the walls and fences that are constructed.

  • Walls and fences will undoubtedly result in an increase in fraudulent documents and smuggling through the Ports of Entry.

  • Walls and fences do not solve the issue of people entering the country legally and staying beyond the date they are required to leave the country, a problem which will undoubtedly increase as more walls and fences are constructed.

  • That's why I ask about symptom vs root problem.


    #6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-12-06 12:51 PM | Reply

    "Walls and fences are temporary solutions that focus on the symptom (illegal immigration) rather than the problem (employers who knowingly hire illegal aliens)."

    Gee, something I've said since...forever:

    Deport a working illegal, and all you've done is hang up another "job opening" sign. Frog-march the hirers, and keep going up the ladder, and the jobs dry up.

    Trouble is, we're talking mostly about Republican counties with Republican Sheriffs where the largest donors to their re-election campaigns are members of the largely-Republican Chambers of Commerce.

    #7 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-12-06 12:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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