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Wednesday, December 06, 2023

After a spy camera designed to look like a towel hook was purchased on Amazon and illegally used for months to capture photos of a minor in her private bathroom, Amazon was sued.

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... The plaintiff"a former Brazilian foreign exchange student then living in West Virginia"argued that Amazon had inspected the camera three times and its safety team had failed to prevent allegedly severe, foreseeable harms still affecting her today.

Amazon hoped the court would dismiss the suit, arguing that the platform wasn't responsible for the alleged criminal conduct harming the minor. But after nearly eight months deliberating, a judge recently largely denied the tech giant's motion to dismiss.

Amazon's biggest problem persuading the judge was seemingly the product descriptions that the platform approved. An amended complaint included a photo [product image is in in the article] from Amazon's product listing that showed bathroom towels hanging on hooks that disguised the hidden camera.

Text on that product image promoted the spycams, boasting that they "won't attract attention" because each hook appears to be "a very ordinary hook." ...




#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-12-06 03:21 PM | Reply

How is Judge Chambers have judge's chambers decorated?

#2 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2023-12-06 03:30 PM | Reply

Wow. Now do guns.

#3 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-12-06 03:58 PM | Reply

Seems like a ridiculous ruling to me. Spycams take all sorts of forms and there are plenty of legit reasons for them. Like keeping an eye on how someone's children are treated by paid caregivers.

"Nanny caught on camera slapping baby. [...] Inside, they have the nanny-cam hidden in a carbon-monoxide detector."
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#4 | Posted by censored at 2023-12-06 04:11 PM | Reply

@#4 ... there are plenty of legit reasons for them ...

Was this occurrence. apparently criminal conduct according to the article, one of that legit reasons?


#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-12-06 04:43 PM | Reply

Was this occurrence. apparently criminal conduct according to the article, one of that legit reasons? #5 | Posted by LampLighter

No, "legit" reasons would be those that are non-criminal in nature. Plenty of grounds to sue the person who used the device illegally. Not so much to sue the merchant if there's a conceivably legal use for the device, IMHO.

Looking more carefully at the article, I noticed that this was on a motion to dismiss. So no liability to Amazon yet. I would "claim shock" if the plaintiff succeeds on this claim at trial.

#6 | Posted by censored at 2023-12-06 05:04 PM | Reply

@#6 ... Not so much to sue the merchant if there's a conceivably legal use for the device, ...

Yeah, I'm wondering where this case will wind up.


#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-12-06 05:53 PM | Reply

We need a Consumer Bill of Rights to give Americans the same protections from Corporations we have from Government.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-12-06 05:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Anyone or any corporation who sells, installs or uses such privacy stealing devices in areas where privacy is expected needs to face both criminal felony and unlimited punitive financial penalties. Use of such devices needs to require public disclosure.

#9 | Posted by Robson at 2023-12-07 10:05 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#3 Censored And exactly what is a legitimate reason to spy on people in the bathroom, pray tell me? It specifically says Amazon sold it to customers saying they could spy on people in the bathroom. A place where people reasonably expect a little privacy while they pee.

#10 | Posted by Ronnie68 at 2023-12-07 11:09 AM | Reply

#9: For maybe the first time ever, I agree with something posted by Robson. WTF?

#11 | Posted by moder8 at 2023-12-07 01:30 PM | Reply

#3 Censored And exactly what is a legitimate reason to spy on people in the bathroom, pray tell me?

Off the top of my head? Someone who lives alone wants a camera in every room of their home for security reasons. Or if they want a camera in their toddler's bathroom, which no-one else is permitted to use, to make sure their kid isn't being abused by the nanny there. I'm sure Amazon's lawyers can come up with a couple hundred more examples at $1,500/hour.

It specifically says Amazon sold it to customers saying they could spy on people in the bathroom. A place where people reasonably expect a little privacy while they pee. #10 | Posted by Ronnie68
If the camera was advertised for purpose that is illegal, I think Amazon would be on the hook if it was then used for that purpose.

#12 | Posted by censored at 2023-12-07 01:36 PM | Reply

"If the camera was advertised for purpose that is illegal, I think Amazon would be on the hook if it was then used for that purpose."

Probably.
"Sandy Hook families reach $73 million settlement with gun manufacturer Remington"

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-12-07 02:46 PM | Reply

Oh to be a teenage boy again. Alas the girls locker room has no appeal to me anymore.

#14 | Posted by Tor at 2023-12-08 07:36 PM | Reply

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