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Wednesday, December 06, 2023

A Nevada grand jury on Wednesday charged six Republicans who claimed to be presidential electors in 2020 and submitted certificates to Congress falsely asserting that former president Donald Trump had won the election in their state.

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More and more evidence of the attempt to change the election's outcome by Trump and his lawyers. This won't end well for Trump as each state's results of each investigation paints a clearer picture of the attempt. With this evidence scattered over so many states, it's going to be harder and harder for Trump to find a place to weasel out of accountability for his actions and schemes.

When investigations take such a wide area of the nation, it starts pointing to the real actions. Actions that lying about won't cover. This isn't a witch hunt, this is holding Trump feet to the fire showing him he can't get away nor slide past his attempts to weasel. He'll throw a lot of mud at the walls, looking to delay and find that weasel hole but it is rapidly disappearing.

#1 | Posted by BBQ at 2023-12-06 04:53 PM | Reply

"Wednesday's indictment had been widely anticipated this month because the statute of limitations for levying certain charges was due to expire on Dec. 14 " three years to the day since electors met in every state capital in the country to cast their ballots for the candidate who won their respective states. The felony charges facing each elector are offering a false instrument for filing, a category C felony, and uttering a forged instrument, a category D felony. The first carries a penalty of one to five years in prison and a fine of up to $10,000. The penalty for the second is one to four years and a fine of up to $5,000.

Ford's office said in a press release that the charges stem from the false electors' actions in December 2020, when they submitted a "false instrument" titled "Certificate of the Votes of the 2020 Electors from Nevada" to the president of the U.S. Senate; the archivist of the United States; the Nevada Secretary of State; and the United States District Court for the District of Nevada."

#2 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-12-06 04:55 PM | Reply

Trump/Prison 2024

#3 | Posted by a_monson at 2023-12-06 11:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The fiscal and prison term penalties for attempting to steal the
election in this manner need to be stiffened. 15k in fines is
hardly anything, especially when considering the forces that might
have been behind organization of such an attempt. Add a zero to each
of the fines, so $100k and $50k per attempt, and you'd see less people
willing to take this risk. And double the sentence penalties too...

#4 | Posted by earthmuse at 2023-12-07 06:34 AM | Reply

Hard to believe there wasn't coordination at the highest levels of national politics, including the former President himself.

#5 | Posted by Hughmass at 2023-12-07 06:59 AM | Reply

HUGHMASS

There WAS coordination at the highest levels. Not Trump, but his lawyers, Giuliani and Chesbro about whom one fake elector said he felt like his personal safety was threatened if he didn't comply . . . and other fake electors who said they were lied to about the "plan" being only a contingency plan or that it was their patriotic duty.

Seems like both Giuliani and Chesebro both have their ass in a sling. Chesebro is already cooperating in Wisconsin. Giuliani is still hanging onto Trump's coat tails . . . or maybe Trump's pantlegs by now . . . as Trump continues to drag everybody connected to him through the slime of January 6 . . . still pinning their hopes on a U.S. Supreme Court exoneration or the 2024 election and a pardon.

#6 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-12-07 07:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

State court, eh? No pardons for you...
-Dotard's crack legal team, January, 2025

As for the guy in the pic in the NYT article: he will do well to watch the first part of 'Shawshank Redemption' to learn more about what awaits him inside...

#7 | Posted by catdog at 2023-12-07 09:07 AM | Reply

Hard to believe there wasn't coordination at the highest levels of national politics, including the former President himself.
#5 | POSTED BY HUGHMASS

Impossible to believe is more like it. Investigators have the documentation that proves it. Chesebro, Powell and Ellis admit to as much in their Georgia plea deals. The 10 fake electors from Wisconsin have admitted they coordinated with top people in the Trump campaign. Trump has even publicly stated he called the shots.

#8 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2023-12-07 09:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

What actually scares me is the next guy who isn't Trump. They are almost assured to be more intelligent. They are also assured to have someone more dedicated to their cause than Pence. Trump has blazed a path on this and they will know what will most likely not work. It is clear there is root rot in the "conservative" movement leaning toward fascism. Take DeSantis - I wouldn't put this move past him at all. A lot of idiot spitting venom and hate were also elected to congress in the Trump wave and after - little doubt they will back this.

IF, somehow, Trump were to win with his cult of personality they would be working on it from day 1. The thing is virtually all the smart supporters of Trump were done after the first year or two. They seen what he REALLY is then the idiotic groupies came in.

#9 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2023-12-07 10:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#6 TwinPac Trump led the charge with his rhetoric, the rest did all the leg work. Trump is too narcisstic and egotistical to leave the whole thing to others, he's a micromanager.

#10 | Posted by Ronnie68 at 2023-12-07 11:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Fat Donnie Loser is too lazy to do anything except bloviate on a stage or slice a golf ball.

#11 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-12-07 11:40 AM | Reply

Has supporting Trump ever worked out well for anyone other than his accomplices?

#12 | Posted by moder8 at 2023-12-07 01:19 PM | Reply

LEGALLY

He's also a textbook case of sociopathy who will deny responsibility on the same day he's charged and sentenced. It's a serious mental disorder in adults, combined with cowardice and fear.

Most children grow out of it. Some never do.

#13 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-12-07 01:30 PM | Reply

Yup

#14 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-12-07 03:46 PM | Reply

Trump has a great fear of losing ~ for all the obvious reasons we already know ~ and too cowardly to face the consequences.

All told, he's really quite the weakling.

#15 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-12-08 04:54 AM | Reply

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