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Friday, December 08, 2023

The predictive power of horse-race polling a year from the presidential election is weak at best. The Biden campaign can take some comfort in that. But what recent surveys do reveal is that the coalition that put Joe Biden in the White House in the first place is nowhere near as strong as it was four years ago.

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... These danger signs include fraying support among core constituencies, including young voters, Black voters and Hispanic voters, and the decline, if not the erasure, of traditional Democratic advantages in representing the interests of the middle class and speaking for the average voter.

Any of these on their own might not be cause for alarm, but taken together, they present a dangerous situation for Biden.

From Nov. 5 through Nov. 11, Democracy Corps, a Democratic advisory group founded by Stan Greenberg and James Carville, surveyed 2,500 voters in presidential and Senate battleground states as well as competitive House districts.

In an email, Greenberg summarized the results: "This is grim." The study, he said, found that collectively, voters in the Democratic base of "Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, L.G.B.T.Q.+ community, Gen Z, millennials, unmarried and college women give Trump higher approval ratings than Biden." ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-12-08 12:33 AM | Reply

"Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, L.G.B.T.Q.+ community, Gen Z, millennials, unmarried and college women give Trump higher approval ratings than Biden." ...

Well then they should vote for him and hope he is is elected President. That's how it works.

#2 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-12-08 01:18 AM | Reply

@#2 ... Well then they should vote for him and hope he is is elected President. That's how it works. ...

Yup.

But I can only wonder if those groups have thought through the "cause-effect" ramifications of who they have voted for?



#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-12-08 01:26 AM | Reply

But I can only wonder if those groups have thought through the "cause-effect" ramifications of who they have voted for?

I doubt it.

#4 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-12-08 01:27 AM | Reply

Of course it isn't. Joe has been anything but progressive and let Republicans push him around.

Democrats need a new candidate.

#5 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-12-08 01:53 AM | Reply

People are sick of foreign wars that don't benefit them.

Biden is entangled in two stupid wars that we have no national interest in.

The economy isn't great for half the country regardless of what the administration says.

End the foreign payouts for War and do something about inequality or Trump is going to LIE his way back in, Yes... America is That Stupid.

We have the track record to prove it.

#6 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2023-12-08 04:15 AM | Reply

Only fools believe polls anymore. These same polls predicted a Trump landslide in 2020, which in reality ended up being a Biden landslide. In 2022 they predicted a red wave which turned out to be a tiny pink trickle.

The best indicator of future results are recent election results which have been really bad overall if your a MAGA't fascist.

#7 | Posted by a_monson at 2023-12-08 05:18 AM | Reply

"People are sick of foreign wars that don't benefit them."

Try that in a Small Town.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-12-08 05:18 AM | Reply

"Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, L.G.B.T.Q.+ community, Gen Z, millennials, unmarried and college women give Trump higher approval ratings than Biden." ...

#1 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Jews for Hitler and all that.

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2023-12-08 08:45 AM | Reply

Yes yes. We've all seen the most recent demonstration of the quintessential short sighted American stupidity.

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2023-12-08 11:03 AM | Reply

I really don't care. Sick of Dems promises. Let the chips fall where they may!

#11 | Posted by fresno500 at 2023-12-08 11:33 AM | Reply

I really don't care.

#11 | POSTED BY FRESNO500

Great.

Now some fascist sociopath can care for you.

#12 | Posted by Zed at 2023-12-08 11:54 AM | Reply

Of course it isn't. Joe has been anything but progressive and let Republicans push him around.

Democrats need a new candidate.

#5 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT

What a load of manure. Biden has been very successful and the republicans are a clown car Has he been perfect? No. Are people still hurting? Yes is that Biden fault? No. Ex. It was republicans who denied his efforts at student loan forgiveness

So it all comes down to the stupidity or veniality of the American people

#13 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-12-08 12:12 PM | Reply

Personally I doubt the veracity of these polls. My phone tells me "spam risk" and I ignore it.
Who's answering these so-called polls?

#14 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-12-08 12:53 PM | Reply

Also, these seems a little too convenient, and (if he lives long enough) Fat Donnie Loser when he gets his ass beat again will blab blab blab about "rigged elections"

Fraud is as fraud does.

#15 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-12-08 12:55 PM | Reply

But I can only wonder if those groups have thought through the "cause-effect" ramifications of who they have voted for?

#3 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER AT 2023-12-08 01:26 AM | REPLY

I can introduce you to a Trans Trumper that 100% believes the election was stolen through ballot box stuffing.

#16 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-12-08 01:52 PM | Reply

and, obligatory, "It's the economy, stupid".

#17 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-12-08 01:53 PM | Reply

#3 what an arrogant statement.

Instead of reflecting on poor policies, it's the voters fault. SMH

#18 | Posted by oneironaut at 2023-12-08 02:00 PM | Reply

and, obligatory, "It's the economy, stupid".

#17 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

So I guess Dark Brandon will crush Trumpy come November then being as how the Biden economy is booming! Apparently.

US Labor Market Defies Slowdown Forecasts in Broad Strengthening

finance.yahoo.com

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2023-12-08 02:25 PM | Reply

I can introduce you to a Trans Trumper that 100% believes the election was stolen through ballot box stuffing.
#16 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

Anita ReCount?

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-12-08 03:07 PM | Reply

"I can introduce you to a Trans Trumper that 100% believes the election was stolen through ballot box stuffing."

And that person would have NO proof, just like every other claimant.

#21 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-12-08 03:23 PM | Reply

#12 they do it now. perhaps you are talking about a "matter of degrees"?

#22 | Posted by fresno500 at 2023-12-08 03:59 PM | Reply

Sizbath knows ALL the best people. /s

Where's Miranda to tell us all she gets polled every night? (I'll bet)

#23 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-12-08 05:55 PM | Reply

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