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Saturday, December 09, 2023

Making headlines at this year's Marintec China exhibition in Shanghai is a design for a giant nuclear-powered megamax containership.

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A nuclear-powered ship maintained by China to its exacting standards for safety, environmental stewardship, and transparency?

What could possibly go wrong?

#1 | Posted by censored at 2023-12-09 11:39 AM | Reply

And now I'm picturing a floating Chernobyl.

#2 | Posted by Tor at 2023-12-09 04:44 PM | Reply

Tha's a big ship!

#3 | Posted by mattm at 2023-12-09 06:00 PM | Reply

Tha's a big ship!

Well over double the displacement of a Ford class carrier but not a record for container ships. Still, 24,000 TEU will hold a lot of iPhones.

#4 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-12-09 07:09 PM | Reply

The ultra-large nuclear container ship is designed to truly achieve zero emissions

What ever happened to the sailboat container ship idea, wouldn't have to propel 100% but just a 20% savings would be profitable.

#5 | Posted by oneironaut at 2023-12-09 07:17 PM | Reply

@#5 ... What ever happened to the sailboat container ship idea ...

Wind-powered cargo ships with sail-like wings' could reduce fuel use by 30% (October 2023)
www.cnbc.com

... A cargo ship with a difference is set to dock at the Polish port of Gdynia early next week.

The Pyxis Ocean, a bulk carrier that is 229 meters long and 32 meters wide, looks like any other dry cargo vessel -- but with a big difference: it is fitted with two large, rigid sails known as WindWings.

These 37.5-meter-tall wings use wind power to help propel the vessel and in doing so reduce the amount of fuel it uses in an effort to cut carbon -- shipping accounts for nearly 3% of the world's greenhouse gas emissions. ...

In July, the maritime industry agreed to reduce emissions to net zero "by or around" 2050, but given the size and complexity of the sector, issues such as a lack of green fuels could cause delays.

"Wind is not going to get us to zero -- unless we're all willing to switch off the engines and go back in time. But what we're trying to do here with this specific technology, is somehow combine the best of both worlds, still have reliability [with an engine], but reduce significantly the fuel usage," Dieleman told CNBC by video call. ...


... still have reliability ...

The implication seems to be that wind technology is not yet reliable enough to be used to push the ships across the oceans.



#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-12-09 07:35 PM | Reply

Yeah, nobody ever used the wind to cross the ocean. /s

#7 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-12-09 07:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

maintained by China
That's probably optimistic.
More likely built by China, owned by a holding company with a Georgetown PO box, flagged in New Guinea, manned by a hodgepodge crew that speak 14 different languages and make 150 dollars a week.

China's pilot program has not yet produced a molten salt reactor. Up side it can be small and theoretically can't meltdown. Lots of downsides, especially on a ship under a constant barrage from the elements and thousands of miles from port. It can also be converted into a breeder reactor without much effort.
Seems like Fake News.

#8 | Posted by BluSky at 2023-12-09 07:41 PM | Reply

@#7 ... Yeah, nobody ever used the wind to cross the ocean. /s ...

Oh, I am not saying that no one ever used wind to cross the ocean. Not by a long shot.

I am saying that, currently, relying upon wind-power for cargo ships may affect critical schedules of those ships. (look at the current mess at the Panama Canal, and how shippers are dealing with it to try to maintain schedules)

Back when wind power was the only power, there were times when a ship was ~dead in the water~ because the wind, well, was not present.

:)


#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-12-09 07:59 PM | Reply

wind technology is not yet reliable enough to be used to push the ships across the oceans.

And probably never will be. Anything that reduces fuel usage is advantageous though. Those things burn ~100,000 gallons per day, and the stuff they burn is some of the --------- fuel there is.

#10 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-12-09 08:05 PM | Reply

@#10

I do not disagree.

However, those wind-powered cargo ships will need to have fuel-burning engines for the foreseeable future, because they cannot rely upon wind power to maintain their schedules.

That's all I am proffering.

The schedules are most important here.




#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-12-09 08:13 PM | Reply

The schedules are most important here.

Hence the nuclear power design. It's a long way from reality, and I'm sure there are a lot of ports that won't want anything to do with a nuclear powered ship.

#12 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-12-09 08:21 PM | Reply

There is or was a nuclear powered freighter decommissioned at the yorktown museum ship in south carolina. I can't remember the nationality but I think the origin was russia.

#13 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-12-10 09:30 AM | Reply

ahh it was a US ship, the NS Savannah, it only operated 10 years. Since I was a kid and saw it, it was pulled out of museum status and sent to the merchant marine reserve, currently anchored near Newport News shipyard.

#14 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-12-10 09:58 AM | Reply

Given the historical propensity of the Chinese to cut corners in their manufacturing and construction regimen in order for thick-brick bureaucrats to get their beaks wet, all it will take is one miss-threaded fitting or a half-assed weld on a containment chamber. I wouldn't willingly go to sea on any Chinese ship, let alone a nuclear powered one.

#15 | Posted by dutch46 at 2023-12-11 02:59 PM | Reply

All we need is for one of these to get stuck crosswise in the Suez Canal...

OCU

#16 | Posted by OCUser at 2023-12-11 06:54 PM | Reply

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