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Sunday, June 23, 2024

Dan Balz, Washington Post: Biden and Trump each look to bring down the other in the biggest event so far in a 2024 election that has remained tight from the start.

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Biden stutters once or uses the wrong word to describe Latinos, Blacks, Muslims, etc and he'll lose 2 percent of the vote and the election.

Trump could -------- in his pants, ball it up, fling it at the debate moderator, then lick his hands clean and he'd gain votes.

#1 | Posted by censored at 2024-06-23 08:28 PM | Reply

Biden should blurt out "convicted felon" every time the demented orange pedo starts gibbering.

#2 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-06-23 08:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Dark Brandon should give a short answer to every question... and then spend the rest of his time each round detailing Trump's J6 treachery with quotes from his own Aides and Lawyers in their Testimony under Oath to Congress.

That would make the orange gibbon dance and squeal.

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-23 08:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

trumps crowd wants red meat and trump doesn't consider anything off limits to deliver

biden will say things and cajole and blame. the homeless the border grocery prices

and if biden looks frail the specter of a harris presidency isn't inspiring

#4 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-23 08:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"No water in your faucets. You ever try buying a new home and you turn on. You want to wash your hair or you wanna wash your hands. You turn on the water and it goes drip, drip the soap. You can't get it off your hand. So you keep it running for about 10 times longer. You trying, the worst is your hair. I have this beautiful luxuriant hair and I put stuff on. I put it in lather. I like lots of lather because I like it to come out extremely dry because it seems to be slightly thicker that way. And I lather up and then you turn on this crazy shower and the thing drip, drip and you say I'm gonna be here for 45 minutes. What? There's so much water. You don't know what to do with it. You know, it's called rain. It rains a lot in certain places. But, now their idea, you know, did you see the other day? They just, I opened it up and they closed it again. I opened it, they close it, washing machines to wash your dishes. There is a problem. They don't want you to have any water."

Putin's demented butt ---- sounds great.

#5 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-06-23 10:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm sure President Biden will outclass Donald Trump in both words and deeds.

The problem I have is that the word "debate" has turned into zingers, oneupmanship and gotcha moments rather than an exchange of policy goals for the betterment of America.

Of course, we already know that Trump's primary policy goal is to turn America into a carbon copy of Russia, with himself as Dictator, hasn't changed one iota since his last trip down Disaster Lane, (with the exception of 87 new felony indictments and 37 convictions for fraud and 1 for sexual assault). Having failed miserably the first time, he just wants another bite of the apple. Trump has zero accomplishments on the international stage.

While Biden's primary policy goal is to continue working on the same booming economy, climate control, health care for women, low employment, green energy, infrastructure building, closing tax loopholes for the rich and stabilizing the southern border ~ that have been the hallmarks of his domestic policies his first 4 years in office. President Biden's initiatives on the International Stage has, so far, kept World War III on the back burner.

#6 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-06-23 10:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Bing bing bong!

Dementia Donald is just going to whine the whole time about fair this and fake that and project his own mental decline onto his opponent. It will be like watching a drunken teenaged bully trying to have a conversation with the valedictorian and thinking he is winning.

#7 | Posted by chuffy at 2024-06-23 10:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

CNN will do its best to allow as much poo flinging and conversation about sharks and electric boats to go on, between questions about Biden's age.

#8 | Posted by chuffy at 2024-06-23 10:52 PM | Reply

I really don't know what Donald Trump will have to say for himself. No doubt he'll take advantage of the television exposure to ramble on and on about his old standby ~ a stolen election in 2020 and Make America Great Again.

He'll make promises he has no intention of keeping and, as always, exaggerate, lie, misinform and project his own failures on Democrats. Trump really doesn't have any new material. He's still festering about the old stuff and how he's going to "get even" with the liberal media and others for helping Democrats steal the 2020 election.

#9 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-06-23 10:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It will be funny when they cut Lewzer's mike and he runs over and rants into Biden's instead.

#10 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-06-23 11:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You can tell the MAGAts know the demented orange pedo is going to get curb-stomped in the debates by how many of them are claiming Biden's on drugs.

#11 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-06-24 12:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

REIN @ #11

"many of them are claiming Biden's on drugs."

There's that projection thing again.

#12 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-06-24 12:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump is totally projecting. There have been stories about him doing adderal since the apprentice.

#13 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-06-24 12:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

REDIAL

"It will be funny when they cut Lewzer's mike"

Or a chunk of that cholesterol blocking his arteries breaks loose.


#14 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-06-24 12:36 AM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

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#2 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-06-23 08:32 PM |
Biden should blurt out "convicted felon" every time the demented orange pedo starts gibbering.

That would only sound petulant, immature and cringy - it's not like he would be imparting some new knowledge on viewers... and Trump will just counter with "Crooked Biden's DOJ" and other [baseless but potent enough] charges. Trump may be able to get away with being offensive and boorish - people expect nothing else from him - but for Biden it could be the difference between win and loss margins where it counts.

Remember the reaction to unforced errors of Romney's "47 percent" and Hillary!'s "Basket of Deplorables" that may have pissed off enough people to possibly add to loss margin and/or even cost her election?

Did you watch what happened in recent elections in Europe? Telling voters again and again that you are pure as the driven snow and superior, and they are stupid isn't going to make you more likable and make them vote for you.

There are only a couple of issues where Biden and Dems are ahead of Trump and GOP right now - that's what he should be emphasizing, not the other's personal "baggage" or grudges.

None of them can really "win" these debates... but either one can lose them.

"... blurt[ing] out "convicted felon" every time the demented orange pedo starts gibbering" is a sure loser.
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#15 | Posted by CutiePie at 2024-06-24 12:45 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

BOOOORING, DUDE, I'M SNOOZIN'

Can you express yourself more, shall we say, Succinctly?

The Snoozathon is quite tedious to peruse.

#16 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-06-24 12:59 AM | Reply

I have this beautiful luxuriant hair and I put stuff on. I put it in lather. I like lots of lather because I like it to come out extremely dry because it seems to be slightly thicker that way.

via GIPHY

#17 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-06-24 07:50 AM | Reply

^buy an ad, threadkiller

#18 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-24 09:06 AM | Reply

I wondered who is running the country while Biden takes a week at vacation camp to practice standing up, then I remembered it's the same people who have been running everything since 2021.

#19 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-24 09:08 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#19 | Posted by look_inward

Were you wondering this under Trump? Bush the last? Just sayin'... you're an idgit.

#20 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-06-24 09:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

then I remembered it's the same people who have been running everything since 2021.
#19 | POSTED BY LOOK_INWARD

Do these people have names?
Are they in the room right now?

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-24 09:36 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Biden should blurt out "convicted felon" every time the demented orange pedo starts gibbering.

#2 | POSTED BY REINHEITSGEBOT

Get serious he can't do that every time Trump starts talking. Sometimes he needs to say "adjudicated rapist".

#22 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2024-06-24 10:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#20 POSTED BY GALAXIEPETE

A week to prepare to answer questions about his own performance?

has biden wandered that far off the path?

trump has set the bar extremely low...and he's got a week. so no excuses

#23 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-24 10:29 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Trumpy will probably do his usual nonsensical rambling with sound effects. He is a performer and a showman after all so he will be in his element even with no audience.

Biden will probably patiently try to remind us of all things he's done all the things Trumpy has done all the things Biden will do and all the things Trumpy says he will do. Just speaking the truth really should be enough.

Unfortunately no matter how much Biden has done for America the maga maroons won't hear any of it and will seize on any little slip up that Biden makes and completely ignore or worse gleefully cheer for the gallons and gallons of nonsense spewing from Trumpy's hate hole.

#24 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-06-24 11:25 AM | Reply

I'll do even better that the headline...can a person who was a POTUS ever get a fair trial from a jury based on what our laws dictate as "fair"?

#25 | Posted by humtake at 2024-06-24 11:39 AM | Reply

Donald Trump does not hold any sincere political views on much of anything.

His sole aim is to enrich himself, and he found the best way to do that is to pretend he's a hardcore rightwinger. Because those are the only people dumb enough to believe he's the real thing.

There is no point in "debating" a chameleon. He will literally say or do anything. Beyond racism and cruelty, he has no principles, vision, goal, nothing.

#26 | Posted by JOE at 2024-06-24 11:41 AM | Reply

"Unfortunately no matter how much Biden has done for America the maga maroons won't hear any of it and will seize on any little slip up that Biden makes and completely ignore or worse gleefully cheer for the gallons and gallons of nonsense spewing from Trumpy's hate hole."

And the saddest part of all is both sides do this EVERY ELECTION. What you feel he has done for America is demonized by the other side and what a Rep has done as POTUS in the past is something you will never hear any of and will seize on any little slip up that they do and completely ignore or worse gleefully cheer for the gallons and gallons of nonsense spewing from the other candidate's/party's mouth. And you can't argue it since there are thousands and thousands of results proving it that come up when you do even just a little research.

The fact that so many DR liberals (and cons) completely ignore this reality is what is truly threatening our democracy, way more than anything any POTUS has ever done.

#27 | Posted by humtake at 2024-06-24 11:42 AM | Reply

When i picture a "debate" between these two people, it's an image of Biden discussing the merits of, say, expanding Medicaid eligibility, and Trump interrupting him by making fart noises in his armpit and saying the N-word. Do we really need to experience this?

#28 | Posted by JOE at 2024-06-24 11:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Re 28.

Exactly.

You said that much better than I did.

#29 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-06-24 11:50 AM | Reply

"What you feel he has done for America is demonized by the other side and what a Rep has done as POTUS in the past is something you will never hear any of and will seize on any little slip up that they do"

Not true.

I give W credit for PEPFAR.
I even give Trump credit for lowering the price on epi-pens.

Oh the whole both of them were abysmal leaders, but they did a few good things.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-24 11:54 AM | Reply

"And the saddest part of all is both sides do this EVERY ELECTION."

Nice try at bothsiderisms.

No. I have witnessed a lot of presidential elections. And no it did not used to be anything like what is happening now due to maga and what now has become a blood sport. Literally.

Anyone with a functional neuron can see that "both sides" are not the same bro.

But I can see that doesn't include you.

#31 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-06-24 11:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

can a person who was a POTUS ever get a fair trial from a jury based on what our laws dictate as "fair"?
#25 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

Define "fair".

Because according to the Fixed News definition of "fair" it was definitely "fair". And balanced.

#32 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-06-24 12:00 PM | Reply

I think it was the W. Presidency when patently stupid people first felt empowered in politics.

But it has been the goal of Evangelicals for fifty years.

Funny thing is, the absolute stupidest voices here aren't even deeply religious. They are such reprobates they can't even pretend to be moral for three hours every Sunday.

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-24 12:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump interrupting him by making fart noises in his armpit and saying the N-word.
Do we really need to experience this?

#28 | Posted by JOE

oh hell yes I would even stay for the commercial

#34 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-24 05:43 PM | Reply

You know, they both like to talk geriatrismack, let's pit them and find out who's 4real dank.

#35 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-24 05:45 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Biden is spending an entire week resting up and preparing for the debate. The moderators are completely on his side. Did he get the questions in advance like Hillary?

#36 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-06-24 06:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In 1776 the colonists rose up and put their lives and wealth on the line to throw off colonial rule and set up a country.

Between 1861 and 1865 millions of loyal Americans put their lives on the line to overthrow slavery and rebellion.

Between 1941 and 1945 millions of Americans put their lives on the line to stop dictators bent on world domination.

I am bothered by the current presidential race in that it is being looked at in a traditional sense. Appeal to this demographic, appeal to that demographic, promote this policy for the future. I am sick of hearing how this or that demographic is dissatisfied with Biden.

When in reality, our nation is at a singular crossroad. Like in 1776, 1861 and 1941 it is American's duty to protect our country and it's democracy.

I think that this time calls for a "Ask not what your country can do for you " ask what you can do for your country," moment.

Our country needs a landslide victory for Biden to crush the authoritarian trend, to bring the Republican party back to sanity.

I honestly don't care what your policy differences are, the lie that Biden is corrupt like ------- is deeply destructive. The fabric of our country is being torn because a single man is willing it. Biden is not corrupt for defending our nation's imperfect government and agencies.

As for those maga types who want to see the world burn I can only say Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

The world may burn by the fire will eventually go out and you will be infinitely poorer for it-look at the Germans of the mid 1930s for a prime example. 10 years later their cities were in rubble, their women were being gang raped on a colossal scale and the country became the epitome of the bad guy.

#37 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-24 06:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#36

lmao... Hil still living in Visitor' head after all these years.

Which must be a horror considering all the black velvet Elvis wall hangings and the nude Trump pics.

#38 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-24 06:41 PM | Reply

Ten dollars for every one of you who changes your.mind about who to vote for as a result of a candidate's debate performance. I have more than enough saved up in my special debate performance bank account. $18.42.

#39 | Posted by moder8 at 2024-06-24 07:11 PM | Reply

... Can a Debate Change the Trajectory of Voter Sentiment ...

We'll find out in the weeks ahead, but likely not before.

#40 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-24 07:13 PM | Reply

OK hear me out... pay-per-view of the match, $100.00 to watch. Winner takes all, and it's enough to win the election. Boom, no more corporate money buying election, the ppv + gate cash is over a billion dollars.

#41 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-25 09:50 AM | Reply

Donald Trump doesn't want to be in this debate. It shows, and that will be evident if he indeed even attends Thursday night.

Trump is mentally ill. He allowed his sick pride to rope him into this.

#42 | Posted by Zed at 2024-06-25 10:00 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

There is a measurable chance that, provided Trump does show up for debate, that he will skate into the mindless LA LA Land he always does when asked to speak unsupported by teleprompter or brain-dead MAGA cheers.

Biden will watch for chances to give Trump rope. Trump will gladly place that rope around his own neck and millions will see him hang.

#43 | Posted by Zed at 2024-06-25 10:05 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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#37 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-24 06:26 PM
I am bothered by the current presidential race in that it is being looked at in a traditional sense. Appeal to this demographic, appeal to that demographic, promote this policy for the future. I am sick of hearing how this or that demographic is dissatisfied...

That's the power of identity politics, class / race/ethnicity / culture wars, branding and populism for you.

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When in reality, our nation is at a singular crossroad. Like in 1776, 1861 and 1941 it is American's duty to protect our country and it's democracy.

At the time - at least until early-to-mid 20th century - there have been no poli-sci schools and the early ones didn't teach polling, behavioral political science, identity politics, wholesale and retail / "district / grid" geo-politics, and many other "tricks of the trade" (especially more recently, with "social," site traffic habits and purchasing cyber tracking and huge amounts of other "micro-data" to analyze) to figure out the proverbial "pocketbook and dinner-table issues" i.e., "what people want" and then promise it to them - populism in action, "left" and "right" play to their audiences, hoping to find enough independents along the way to create a margin of victory.

In reality, our nation is likely much closer to being "still" in late 1930s (rather than in 1941) mind-set, when isolationism and flimsy promises, or even appearance of promises. of "peace for our times" (no matter what "little" price there may be to be paid... by "others"... for a while...) are the zeitgeist of governing classes (academia and bureaucracy) and are again all too clearly seen, by some [fickle] friends / allies and make the enemies more determined to press on, with ever higher odds of success.

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I think that this time calls for a "Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country," moment.

Except in current environment the "fine people on both sides" have very different ideas of "what your country can do for you" and "what you can do for your country" while expressing them in very similar populist language ("patriotism / fascism / socialism / intellectuals / the elite(s) / trailer trash / deplorables / democracy / for the people / vox populi / pitchforks" etc.) and while having similar ideas about what the "problems" with the "society / country" are, they have very different ideas and most often contrary and non-negotiable, rigid "simple solutions." on which neither side - or at least the extreme ideologs on either side - are willing to compromise.

e.g., "Jeffrey A. Sonnenfeld, president of the Yale Chief Executive Leadership Institute, said in a guest essay published by The New York Times that a host of Donald Trump's economic initiatives "share more in common with [communist] Karl Marx than [capitalist] Adam Smith." " - QED!

H.L. Mencken: "There is always a well-known solution to every human problem - neat, plausible, and wrong."

H. L. Mencken: "For it is the natural tendency of the ignorant to believe what is not true. In order to overcome that tendency it is not sufficient to exhibit the true; it is also necessary to expose and denounce the false."
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#44 | Posted by CutiePie at 2024-06-26 06:37 PM | Reply

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#43 | Posted by Zed at 2024-06-25 10:05 AM
Biden will watch for chances to give Trump rope. Trump will gladly place that rope around his own neck and millions will see him hang.

After watching Trump "roping" himself numerous times during his "rallies," do you really think Biden needs [a strategy] to "watch for chances to give Trump rope" ... or if/when Trump "ropes/hangs" himself, it should be credited to Dark Brandon's special superpowers?

Anyway, a cynical but real answer to the headline question ("Can a Debate Change the Trajectory of Voter Sentiment") is :

www.thedailybeast.com - We Know the Debate Is Total B***s**t, but We'll Watch Anyway | No one's minds will be changed by this silly spectacle, so we'll just have to enjoy the dark comedy of it all - TDB, Michael Ian Black, 2024 June 26
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#45 | Posted by CutiePie at 2024-06-26 06:50 PM | Reply

In reality, our nation is likely much closer to being "still" in late 1930s (rather than in 1941) mind-set, when isolationism and flimsy promises, or even appearance of promises. of "peace for our times" (no matter what "little" price there may be to be paid... by "others"... for a while...) are the zeitgeist of governing classes (academia and bureaucracy) and are again all too clearly seen, by some [fickle] friends / allies and make the enemies more determined to press on, with ever higher odds of success.

The 1930's comparison is to Germany. I see a distinct echo of the late Weimar Republic in America-the division, the discontent, the rise of fascism. We are somewhat more stable not having a parliamentary system-people condemn the 2-party system, but a multi-party system would be incredibly destabilizing. Our government can barely function under a republican House. Then you add on the corruption of the courts, coming out of a world wide disaster (stock market crash/Covid). ------- is using Hitler's handbook, to date our society has been resilient to the lies (to an extent), mostly cause there aren't constant battles in the street and bread lines. And, oh yeah, our nation does not reflect in any realistic way the perversions of -------'s visions.

But don't for one second think that a ------- win won't result in an unimaginable upending of our society, our way of life, the relationship between the citizenry and the government. The implementation of Project 2025 will be the death of our way of life. We will be subjected to years of retribution against -------'s enemies, destruction of rights, possible permanent minority rule, harsh crushing of any dissent and the likely destruction of 2 term presidency. ---- the presidency may convert to a monarchy. One thing we got going for us is ------- is old and feeble. Maybe he'll die in 4 years. then you'll have the pleasure of watching the republican party tear itself apart, unfortunately at our expense.

#46 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-26 07:08 PM | Reply

... Can a Debate Change the Trajectory of Voter Sentiment ...

Maybe, maybe not.

It depends upon what happens during the debate.

And we won't know that until tomorrow evening.

#47 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-26 07:48 PM | Reply

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#46 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-26 07:08 PM
The 1930's comparison is to Germany. I see a distinct echo of the late Weimar Republic in America-the division, the discontent, the rise of fascism.

The 1930s comparison was not to Weimar Germany but to isolationists and non-involvement movements in the US and Britain, which under pretense of Neville Chamberlain's "peace for our time" 1938 Munich Agreement with Hitler allowed Germany to swallow Sudetenland and Czechoslovakia, and start making plans to carve out the rest of Europe with Joseph Stalin, without a peep from the West.

Most rational people understood then that the "peace for our time" (or a "permanent cease-fire" as some call it today) was just the beginning of the wider war, not the end of it.

www.hasdk12.org FOR OUR TIME-2022.pdf - Peace For Our Time

|------- [Chamberlain] spoke to the crowd about his meeting with Adolph Hitler and proudly proclaimed that day that the paper represented "peace for our time". There were more cheers from the crowd. "Good old Neville!!!" "Three cheers for Neville!!!"

France. Another crowd had gathered at an airport in Paris. When the plane came in, the Parisians rushed to it even before it had stopped. Edouard (Edward) Daladier, the French Premier, appeared. Crowds began dancing and cheering. Daladier turned to a man at his side. "The fools," he said. "They don't know what they are cheering."

Czechoslovakia. There were crowds in the cities of Czechoslovakia, too, that day. These crowds were not cheering. Some people had tears running down their faces. September 30, 1938 was a sad day for the people of Czechoslovakia, especially for the countries Jewish citizens.

Why were the crowds in London and Paris so happy? They believed their leaders saved them from a war with Nazi Germany. They thought Chamberlain and Daladier had made a "deal" with Adolph Hitler. It wasn't just a deal. It was a bargain, so they thought. The price of this "bargain" was some land that belonged to Czechoslovakia. It was called the Sudetenland.

There was cheering in London and Paris. People thought peace had been saved. The price of piece is not too high, Englishmen and Frenchmen said, we are not ready for war. We are still fighting the Great Depression. We can't afford a big army or air force. We can not go to war against Hitler now, even if we wanted to, they said.

While the English and French cheered, the Czechs and Slovaks of Czechoslovakia said the price is much too high. To appease Hitler and keep him quiet, you have paid with our freedom. Because we are a small nation, you have sold us down the river. You will see how wrong you are, they said.

It turned out the Czechs and Slovaks were right. ...

... Eleven months after Neville Chamberlain waved his paper to the cheering crowds declaring "peace for our time," Britain would end up declaring war on Germany. By that time, Hitler was looking for more land. Germany was more powerful than ever. The leaders of France and Britain had made a terrible mistake. Germany had invaded Poland on September 1, 1939. World War II had begun.
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Czechoslovakia was at the time the only nation in Eastern Europe, besides the Soviet Union, that manufactured its own weapons, and was the world's 7th largest manufacturer of arms. After annexation by Germany, Czech factories continued producing weapons and munitions for Germany, vastly increasing and improving Wehrmacht's military strength.
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#48 | Posted by CutiePie at 2024-06-26 08:03 PM | Reply

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#46 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-26 07:08 PM
The 1930's comparison is to Germany. I see a distinct echo of the late Weimar Republic in America-the division, the discontent, the rise of fascism.

The 1930s comparison was not to Weimar Germany but to isolationists and non-involvement movements in the US and Britain, which under pretense of Neville Chamberlain's "peace for our time" 1938 Munich Agreement with Hitler allowed Germany to swallow Sudetenland and Czechoslovakia, and start making plans to carve out the rest of Europe with Joseph Stalin, without a peep from the West.

Most rational people understood then that the "peace for our time" (or a "permanent cease-fire" as some call it today) was just the beginning of the wider war, not the end of it.

www.hasdk12.org FOR OUR TIME-2022.pdf - Peace For Our Time

|------- [Chamberlain] spoke to the crowd about his meeting with Adolph Hitler and proudly proclaimed that day that the paper represented "peace for our time". There were more cheers from the crowd. "Good old Neville!!!" "Three cheers for Neville!!!"

France. Another crowd had gathered at an airport in Paris. When the plane came in, the Parisians rushed to it even before it had stopped. Edouard (Edward) Daladier, the French Premier, appeared. Crowds began dancing and cheering. Daladier turned to a man at his side. "The fools," he said. "They don't know what they are cheering."

Czechoslovakia. There were crowds in the cities of Czechoslovakia, too, that day. These crowds were not cheering. Some people had tears running down their faces. September 30, 1938 was a sad day for the people of Czechoslovakia, especially for the countries Jewish citizens.

Why were the crowds in London and Paris so happy? They believed their leaders saved them from a war with Nazi Germany. They thought Chamberlain and Daladier had made a "deal" with Adolph Hitler. It wasn't just a deal. It was a bargain, so they thought. The price of this "bargain" was some land that belonged to Czechoslovakia. It was called the Sudetenland.

There was cheering in London and Paris. People thought peace had been saved. The price of piece is not too high, Englishmen and Frenchmen said, we are not ready for war. We are still fighting the Great Depression. We can't afford a big army or air force. We can not go to war against Hitler now, even if we wanted to, they said.

While the English and French cheered, the Czechs and Slovaks of Czechoslovakia said the price is much too high. To appease Hitler and keep him quiet, you have paid with our freedom. Because we are a small nation, you have sold us down the river. You will see how wrong you are, they said.

It turned out the Czechs and Slovaks were right. ...

... Eleven months after Neville Chamberlain waved his paper to the cheering crowds declaring "peace for our time," Britain would end up declaring war on Germany. By that time, Hitler was looking for more land. Germany was more powerful than ever. The leaders of France and Britain had made a terrible mistake. Germany had invaded Poland on September 1, 1939. World War II had begun.
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Czechoslovakia was at the time the only nation in Eastern Europe, besides the Soviet Union, that manufactured its own weapons, and was the world's 7th largest manufacturer of arms. After annexation by Germany, Czech factories continued producing weapons and munitions for Germany, vastly increasing and improving Wehrmacht's military strength.
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#49 | Posted by CutiePie at 2024-06-26 08:04 PM | Reply

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