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Friday, July 05, 2024

President Joe Biden will join George Stephanopoulos for a sit-down interview via all ABC news platforms at 8 p.m. EDT/7 p.m. CDT Friday, July 5, according to ABC News.

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According to the WaPo, "ABC has pledged to air the interview in full and without edits, meaning that any attempt by a Biden aide to cut off the conversation early would be captured by cameras and likely shown to viewers" (www.nytimes.com).

#1 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-07-05 11:59 AM | Reply | Funny: 3 | Newsworthy 2

"likely" shown to viewers

Can we get a quantification percentage on "likely"?

#2 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-07-05 12:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This will be a make or break interview for Joe.

If Dark Brandon shows up, he'll be fine.

If he tries to be Mr Reasonable Nice Guy, it's not going to work.

But that's fine, too, as we need to know if he should continue or not.

,

Now, lets see the other candidate go on a major network for this kind of interview, and defend each lie he tells.

That would be hilarious.

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-05 12:18 PM | Reply | Funny: 3 | Newsworthy 4

Democrat establishment lackeys' opinions aside, the very fact that someone needs to INSIST that the interview isn't scripted or edited means its past time for Joe to go.

I mean, this is the most powerful man in the world we're handling with kid gloves, for ----- sake!

#4 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-07-05 12:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 3

The Dems better decide whether they want to hand the Presidency to Trump, or replace Biden with another candidate, real soon.

#5 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-07-05 03:10 PM | Reply

The Dems better decide whether they want to hand the Presidency to Trump, or replace Biden with another candidate, real soon.

#5 | POSTED BY WHATSLEF

First it has to be demonstrated that replacing Biden would result in it being more likely to defeat -------

#6 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-05 03:23 PM | Reply

It's too late to replace Biden.

A few states are past the deadline and at this point republicans will fight the change.

#7 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-05 03:31 PM | Reply

ABC has pledged to air the interview in full and without edits

They're going to nail the coffin shut.

#8 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-07-05 03:33 PM | Reply

"First it has to be demonstrated that replacing Biden would result in it being more likely to defeat -------"

And how would one demonstrate that? also, remember, before this whole crap show, Biden was supporting genocide. There are plenty of voters who haven't forgotten that.

In order to beat Trump you need to offer a candidate that is the opposite of everything Trump represents, not politically, but PERSONALLY.

If he represents licentiousness and adultery you pick a wholesome, once-married person without any baggage in that regard.

If he likes to doink little little girls and keep them as sex slaves you pick someone who has evidence of truly caring for and loving little girls-- like bringing up two daughters into strong, independent women, for instance.

If Trump is an entitled, rich, white guy from a posh neighborhood in NY you bring in a darker-skinned woman who started her life in the center of the middle class in a tough neighborhood- like the South Side of Chicago, for instance...

I think you know where I'm going with this by now...

#9 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-07-05 03:34 PM | Reply

^Big Mike?

#10 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-07-05 03:35 PM | Reply

"A few states are past the deadline and at this point republicans will fight the change."

Then you start a write-in campaign in those states.

#11 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-07-05 03:37 PM | Reply

- And how would one demonstrate that?

drudge.com

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-05 04:04 PM | Reply

US President Joe Biden has been displaying worrying signs of "accelerated aging" in recent months and these changes shocked European leaders who met him at the Group of Seven (G7) summit in Italy last month, the Washington Post reported on Friday. The outlet cited 21 people who spoke on condition of anonymity.

#13 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-07-05 04:17 PM | Reply

I dont think they are fooling anyone. Between "boosters" (for public appearances) he is firmly in "80 yrs old man" land.

Not to be trusted with the "2am phonecall".

#14 | Posted by fresno500 at 2024-07-05 06:39 PM | Reply

Not to be trusted with the "2am phonecall".
#14 | POSTED BY FRESNO500

I honestly don't know which candidate this refers to.

#15 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-05 06:43 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

They should do a written debate. Put them in rooms with a set of questions, paper, pencils (or crayons if requested) and let them write their answers. They then trade papers and write responses. Then publish it all.

I want a president who can think and solve problems.

#16 | Posted by TenMile at 2024-07-05 07:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Exclusive: footage of the interview leaked-

Biden Interview Leaked

#17 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-07-05 07:36 PM | Reply

I honestly don't know which candidate this refers to.
#15 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

I honestly believe you.

#18 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-07-05 07:55 PM | Reply

Then you start a write-in campaign in those states.
#11 | POSTED BY NERFHERDER

Bad idea.

You'd split the Democrat voters.

#19 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-07-05 07:57 PM | Reply

Biden said he don't think he watched the debate. It was only a couple days ago and he don't think?

#20 | Posted by fortfisher at 2024-07-05 08:13 PM | Reply

The Lord Almighty is going to strike him down.

#21 | Posted by fortfisher at 2024-07-05 08:21 PM | Reply

Quit blaming Trump and answer a question.

#22 | Posted by fortfisher at 2024-07-05 08:22 PM | Reply

Biden and the DNC, the lying media, Jill, Kamala. Hunter have all lied to our country. Who is running our country now while these corrupt political "elites" cover up Joe Biden condition and do nothing?

#23 | Posted by Robson at 2024-07-05 08:33 PM | Reply

He's got a B from me at the first break.

He's right about the Character issue with this new SC decision as Trump is an alley cat.

#24 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-05 08:45 PM | Reply

If the goal was to make him look better after those 22 minutes, it backfired.

#25 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-07-05 08:46 PM | Reply

He sounds incoherent. He is bragging about expanding NATO and making wars around the world which makes him tired out. At the start, he took credit for 'peace in the middle east'. The fact that he WILL NOT take a cognitive test is all anyone needs to know. Not only is he unfit to run - he is unfit to serve as president RIGHT NOW.

BTW, he just called Trump a congenital liar and then said Trump was the guy 'that said to put bleach in your arm' without a single fact check by George. Even with this softball interview, he looks like a lying ------.

#26 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-05 08:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"He's got a B from me at the first break.
#24 | POSTED BY CORKY"

So you are fine with him refusing to take a cognitive test? You are not a serious person if you are.

#27 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-05 08:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Biden just bragging about half filling a high school gym at his rallies - and you -------- are the ones saying Trump lies about his crowd sizes. Even backside-sniffing George had to call that lie out.

#28 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-05 08:52 PM | Reply

Claudio is fine with a guy who's own people have testified that he knew he lost the election, and that he committed crimes with Fake Ballot and Fake Elector with a mob attack on the Capitol schemes.

Trump is a traitor to the Constitution, a criminal, and a pathologically liar... like his Big Lie today about how he doesn't know anything about the Heritage Foundation and the 2025 Project, ROFL!

Trump is a traitor and a criminal and his supporters are his enablers.


#29 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-05 08:58 PM | Reply

He admitted to being Typhoid Mary. Put a mask on Joe the ------.

#30 | Posted by fortfisher at 2024-07-05 09:03 PM | Reply

#3

Dark Brandon is a myth. It's always been in the dark Brandon.

#31 | Posted by willowby at 2024-07-05 09:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#29 | POSTED BY CORKY

Quite the word salad. You take that right from the email?

#32 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-07-05 09:06 PM | Reply

"Dark Brandon is a myth.
#31 | POSTED BY WILLOWBY"

I think Ashley would strongly dispute that.

#33 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-05 09:06 PM | Reply

See what I mean?

4 posts and none of them even try to contradict what I said... because they can't.

#34 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-05 09:07 PM | Reply

#34
No one cares what you said. All you ever do is wash Joeys balls.

#35 | Posted by fortfisher at 2024-07-05 09:13 PM | Reply

#35

You are right about one thing... the Cult doesn't care that their Dear Leader is a traitor and a criminal.

And they obviously have no Retort to what I said.

Of course, you needed add your homosexual projection fantasy about what you'd like to do with a man, so I guess there's that.

#36 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-05 09:16 PM | Reply

Hakeem Jefferies has called for a Zoom meeting Sunday with top democrats. I bet they all remember watching replays of the debate, unlike Biden, who can't remember if he did or not.

#37 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-07-05 09:18 PM | Reply

#37

How does it feel being and enabler for a traitor and a criminal, Gracie?

Not to mention a pathological liar, so I won't mention that.

#38 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-05 09:20 PM | Reply

an, not and...

#39 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-05 09:21 PM | Reply

I took Biden's answer as he's seen vids of it in pieces, but hasn't sat down to watch it. His answer didn't seem that weird to me. Just an honest answer. Something trumpers can't handle without ridiculing. Y'all are so steeped in lying as a way of life you can't handle anything that isn't a lie.

#40 | Posted by YAV at 2024-07-05 09:22 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

How does it feel being and enabler for a traitor and a criminal, Gracie?

It's her special purpose.

#41 | Posted by YAV at 2024-07-05 09:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"You are right about one thing... the Cult doesn't care that their Dear Leader is a traitor and a criminal.
#36 | POSTED BY CORKY"

It is not a matter of 'not caring' - it is a matter of believing these things simply are not true. NO serious person believes that Donald Trump does not love America. He literally had his life torn apart and faced political prison for this love of his country. The 'criminal' charges have no legitimacy and will all be tossed. As for the 'traitor' part - sorry, you Dems had 3 years to try to prove he was a Russian spy and the only thing you proved was that Hillary colluded with the Russians to write a fake report. That is what it doesn't 'matter' - because you believe your statement to be Gospel and we think your statement is that of a TDS ------- stuck on stupid.

#42 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-05 09:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

All you ever do is wash Joeys balls.

Gotta love someone's whose "nose so far up Trump's ass a sudden, turn to the will break it" talks about someone else.

#43 | Posted by YAV at 2024-07-05 09:25 PM | Reply

Okay. KJP#1 said in her presser Biden did NOT see a doctor after the debate. Biden has twice, that I know of, said he DID see a doctor.

#44 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-07-05 09:26 PM | Reply

"Did you ever watch the debate afterwards?" Stephanopoulos asked.

After a brief pause, Biden replied, "I don't think I did, no."

#45 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-07-05 09:28 PM | Reply

Correct.
And you have a problem with that for some weird reason.

#46 | Posted by YAV at 2024-07-05 09:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#44 - So?

#47 | Posted by YAV at 2024-07-05 09:32 PM | Reply

The obvious follow-up question should have been, 'Do You Recall Debating President Trump last week'?

#48 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-07-05 09:32 PM | Reply

#46
You're such a ------.

#49 | Posted by fortfisher at 2024-07-05 09:34 PM | Reply

If people only analyzed Trump's debate performance or any rally speech or interveiw he gives with half the zeal they are now expending on Biden's every word, we might be able to take their opinions somewhat seriously. But as it is, not so much.

#50 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-07-05 09:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

#49 - how's your nose?

#51 | Posted by YAV at 2024-07-05 09:35 PM | Reply

#42 |

lmao!

Someone mentioned word salads before, and that's a Classic Example.

Trump's own daughter said he knew he had lost the election right after it was over.

Dozens of his own hand-picked Trumper Aides and Lawyers testified under Oath to his criminal acts in both the Fake Ballot scheme where his OWN DOJ leadership threatened to resign in masse if he appointed someone that would sign the Letter to the States telling them they could replace Biden's name with Trumps.

And literally dozens of his own hand-picked Aides and Lawyers testified under Oath to his criminal acts in the Fake Elector conspiracy to create Fake Electors, many of whom are now in PRISON around the country.... and to interfere with the peaceful transition of power in the Congress by sending a violent mob to attack the Capitol to stop the Ballot Count.

The first one of those schemes the SC just buried Originalist legal doctrine to give him an out, but the second conspiracy will continue to be prosecuted.

But Trumpers don't care about his crimes, because imagining that they have somehow 'owned a Lib!" is much more important.

#52 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-05 09:36 PM | Reply

#50 Are you new to this site? You win the comments section today with that post.

#53 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-07-05 09:37 PM | Reply

#50 - HAHAHA! Can you imagine what would happen if they actually did that? HA!

#54 | Posted by YAV at 2024-07-05 09:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If people only analyzed Trump's debate performance or any rally speech or interveiw he gives with half the zeal they are now expending on Biden's every word, we might be able to take their opinions somewhat seriously. But as it is, not so much.
#50 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

I'm not just talking about posts on this site but about the media at large as well.

#55 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-07-05 09:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The obvious follow-up question should have been, 'Do You Recall Debating President Trump last week'?
#48 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

That old news is going to be ancient history by November.

#56 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-05 09:44 PM | Reply

True, Gal... if they weren't gullible enough to continue to believe an obvious pathological liar...

Check out this Take Down of Trump's Big Lie O' the Day today:

www.youtube.com

... if the weren't so gullible it would be much easier to take them seriously on other things they say.

#57 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-05 09:47 PM | Reply

#55 Right? NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, etc. all carried Trump with their soft reporting of him. Fell for your trolling, but no more, not even you are that blind.

#58 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-07-05 09:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You never answered my question, Gracie.

Perhaps this will motivate you... if you have the nerve to watch it:

www.youtube.com

I mean, you're a good Church Lady, right?

#59 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-05 09:55 PM | Reply

Unfortunately, Trump and Biden are in a Mexican standoff with the third participant being Common Sense

#60 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-07-05 09:58 PM | Reply

(Trumps) a "One man crime wave!"

#61 | Posted by YAV at 2024-07-05 10:00 PM | Reply

#50

That's funny as Hell. Trump was Trump. Unfortunately for you, Joementia was Joementia.

#62 | Posted by willowby at 2024-07-05 10:00 PM | Reply

Now go find the part where GOD says get an abortion and have same sex.

#63 | Posted by fortfisher at 2024-07-05 10:00 PM | Reply

That's funny as Hell. Trump was Trump. Unfortunately for you, Joementia was Joementia.
#62 | POSTED BY EMBARRASSED TRUMPER

Your support for a convicted felon and rapist is noted.

#64 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-05 10:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

Common sense would be ax'ing Dark B to move along, old feller... if you had anyone who people like those at 538 could tell you had a better chance of beating Trump.

They don't. Except for maybe one person, who doesn't want the job.

I don't worry too much about Biden staying in; if he gets too bad, Nancy and Chuck and Hakim and Barrack will tell him it's time to go and to let Mamala have the Big Chair.

And he will, because he's an honorable guy, not a traitor and criminal and a pathological liar.

#65 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-05 10:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Did anyone else find the ending of the interview odd? No conclusion, just cut to commentary, as if, ... .I don't know.

#66 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-07-05 10:10 PM | Reply

#63

from Non Sequiturs 'R Us!

#67 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-05 10:10 PM | Reply

#66 |

Obviously a Conspiracy!

They musta cut out the last part where he started drooling and tried to kiss George Stuffalufagus!

#68 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-05 10:12 PM | Reply

Lee?

#69 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-07-05 10:13 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

69!!!!!

- LeeTheAgent

#70 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-05 10:15 PM | Reply

#55 Right? NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, etc. all carried Trump with their soft reporting of him. Fell for your trolling, but no more, not even you are that blind.
#58 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

If they analyze Trump's speeches word by word, pointing out every stumble, mispronounciation, lost train of thought, forgotten name, etc. it is news to me. Oh, sure, they cover a few of his faux pas per speech but no one outlines every flaw. Maybe because there are too many of them. I don't know why, but I know the one station I sometimes listen to, MSNBC, hasn't scrutinized Trump's debate performance with half the scrutiny they are giving to Biden's. They never analyze his rallies speeches line by line this election cycle that I have seen. Oh, sure, they hit the highlights like batteries and sharks, but that's really about it. I've heard some hosts recently saying they really should cover Trump's remarks more thoroughly, but so far I haven't really seen them do it. But I don't watch 24 x 7, so maybe someone can provide a link to such a recent analysis.

#71 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-07-05 10:16 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

And he will, because he's an honorable guy, not a traitor and criminal and a pathological liar.
- Corky

If he was honorable he would have not run again, and put us Democrats in such an agonizing position.

#72 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-07-05 10:17 PM | Reply

#66 - The interview was unscripted, unedited, no cuts, no edits, as it happened.

#73 | Posted by YAV at 2024-07-05 10:17 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1


If they analyze Trump's speeches word by word, pointing out every stumble, mispronounciation, lost train of thought, forgotten name, etc. it is news to me.

What ?? They wanted to 25th amendment him for grabbing a handrail.

#74 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-07-05 10:17 PM | Reply

You know what else is a sign of progressive Alzheimer's and it is lying

#75 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-05 10:18 PM | Reply

#74 after pretending to be a democrat in #72.
You are really bad at pretending to be a "democrat."
Horrible at it.

#76 | Posted by YAV at 2024-07-05 10:19 PM | Reply


#66 - The interview was unscripted, unedited, no cuts, no edits, as it happened.

#73 | POSTED BY YAV

Yeah you don't find that strange?

#77 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-07-05 10:19 PM | Reply

"If they analyze Trump's speeches word by word, pointing out every stumble, mispronounciation, lost train of thought, forgotten name, etc. it is news to me."

Like I said, I haven't seen them do it this election cycle.

#78 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-07-05 10:20 PM | Reply

#72

Awww... Poor China Baby!

Who do you have that is running at least as good as Biden is against Trump right now?

Nobody.

Trump is the one that has put us in the agonizing position of having a traitor, criminal pathological liar in the WH again, not Biden.

Whom you spend half your time here dissing. Get another candidate first, dimmy.

When you've got a solution, then it's time to make a change, not before.

#79 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-05 10:21 PM | Reply

Yeah you don't find that strange?

#80 | Posted by YAV at 2024-07-05 10:22 PM | Reply

#80 - my response was swallowed by the DR hamsters. Probably a good thing. It wasn't kind.

#81 | Posted by YAV at 2024-07-05 10:23 PM | Reply

"because he's an honorable guy"

An honorable guy who sends thousands of tons of bombs to de-limb and murder brown kids and enable genocide?

Either he's not really that honorable or he's too far gone and someone is doing his decision-making for him: your choice.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not another DisgracedAndDeranged or OneNumbNut. I voted for Biden in 2020. Biden's just gotta go because he can't and won't win. Him thinking he can win is just another sign of his swift mental decline.

#82 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-07-05 10:23 PM | Reply

"because he's an honorable guy"

An honorable guy who sends thousands of tons of bombs to de-limb and murder brown kids and enable genocide?

Either he's not really that honorable or he's too far gone and someone is doing his decision-making for him: your choice.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not another DisgracedAndDeranged or OneNumbNut. I voted for Biden in 2020. Biden's just gotta go because he can't and won't win. Him thinking he can win is just another sign of his swift mental decline.

#83 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-07-05 10:23 PM | Reply

-------- in 2016: I demand Trump's tax returns for ummm....reasons.

-------- in 2024: I have no interest in Biden taking a cognitive test!

Literally, can you -------- get any more stupid? What is more important to governing a country - tax returns or showing that you don't have a broken brain? I guess I may need to lighten up on -------- as far lefties have 50% rate for having a professional diagnosis of a mental disorder so I guess you just see Biden as one of your own.

#84 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-05 10:24 PM | Reply

#76 | POSTED BY YAV

Who is pretending?
I never liked Biden, never pretended about that. Someone made some BS move and put him in play. I am Bernie fan. Mayor Pete would be my number 2.

I support.

1. Open border, let me rephrase that a controlled open border.
2. National healthcare.
3. Abortion.
4. EVs

Lemme guess you like Palestinians, and hate Elon, talk about a pretend Democrat.

Though I have never voted I do consider this my and my daughters future home.

#85 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-07-05 10:24 PM | Reply

Ahght- a double-post, first ever in nearly 15 years posting-- maybe I'm in swift mental decline as well!

#86 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-07-05 10:25 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#83 - you do realize that Israelis and Arabs are both Semites, right? Same family tree?

#87 | Posted by YAV at 2024-07-05 10:25 PM | Reply

Demanding a cognitive test should be a minimum standard for a presidential candidate. So far, Biden has refused to take a cognitive test and a drug test - I would also request a lie detector on the Ashley Biden accusations. What is he hiding?

#88 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-05 10:26 PM | Reply

Though I have never voted I do consider this my and my daughters future home.

So you're going to vote for Biden if he's the choice over Trump?

#89 | Posted by YAV at 2024-07-05 10:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"you do realize that Israelis and Arabs are both Semites, right? Same family tree?
#87 | POSTED BY YAV"

Sephardic Jews - yes. Ashkenazi Jews - not so much. Ashkenazi Jews have as much right to Israel as does Ivanka Trump.

#90 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-05 10:28 PM | Reply

#82 |

You should take that winning candidate you are hiding outa your pocket and show them too us.

Otherwise it just sounds like you are making stuff up.

#84

Claudio still hiding from #52, I see. You are Retortless, lol.

- I am Bernie fan.

One of the 90 percent of BBros who listened to Bernie and supported Clinton, or one of the rest who helped give us Donald Jessica Trump?

#91 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-05 10:29 PM | Reply

-------- in 2024: I have no interest in Biden taking a cognitive test!

They literally wanted Trumps removed for the same reasons.

Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D-Ore.) in a floor speech this week called for a review of the Constitution's procedures for removing a president. He warned the 25th Amendment of the Constitution falls short when it comes to mental or emotional fitness for office.
Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) during a weekend interview with CNN's "State of the Union" said that "a few" Republican colleagues have expressed concern to him about Trump's mental health.
thehill.com

This is why Yav's brand of Democrat is bad for the country (Lumpers), its not objective by any stretch of the imagination.

#92 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-07-05 10:30 PM | Reply

All Trumpers should have a cognitive test to find out they could possibly live with themselves as enablers of a traitor, criminal, and pathologically liar for President.

as per #52, which still goes Un-Retorted.

#93 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-05 10:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

how they

#94 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-05 10:36 PM | Reply

This is why Yav's brand of Democrat is bad for the country (Lumpers), its not objective by any stretch of the imagination.

So you're avoiding the most pertinent question: Who are you voting for?

#95 | Posted by YAV at 2024-07-05 10:42 PM | Reply

"Trump's own daughter said he knew he had lost the election right after it was over."

Trump did lose the election - we have had Joe Biden as president for the last 3.5 years as a result.

Trump did not lose a free and fair election. So, that is a different statement to which you lack the context of what Trump meant.

"Dozens of his own hand-picked Trumper Aides and Lawyers testified under Oath to his criminal acts in both the Fake Ballot scheme where his OWN DOJ leadership threatened to resign in masse if he appointed someone that would sign the Letter to the States telling them they could replace Biden's name with Trumps."

So, you are charging him with a 'thought crime' now as this was never actually done?

"And literally dozens of his own hand-picked Aides and Lawyers testified under Oath to his criminal acts in the Fake Elector conspiracy to create Fake Electors, many of whom are now in PRISON around the country...."

They are not 'fake electors' they are alternate electors and are actually pretty common to have in cases where there is debate about the election results. Try again.

"and to interfere with the peaceful transition of power in the Congress by sending a violent mob to attack the Capitol to stop the Ballot Count."

1.) He did not send a violent mob as his Tweets made clear during the riot. This is very different from BLM where the Dems encouraged it and even paid bail money so their thugs could get released to terrorize even more innocent people.
2.) Trump did NOTHING to stop the peaceful transition of power as show by him leaving the White House - something the Dems claimed he would not do. The only threat to stay in power was in your wet dreams.

"The first one of those schemes the SC just buried Originalist legal doctrine to give him an out, but the second conspiracy will continue to be prosecuted."

Nah, these cases are DOA and Jack Smith is likely to be dismissed as the Dems could not be bothered to do a legitimate appointment. This is par for the course for Smith - normally Fed prosecutors have a close to 100% conviction rate as the game is rigged. However, Smith has botched every high profile case he ever got and the disclosures about bringing fake evidence to Mar o lago and changing the order of documents is just his MO.

"But Trumpers don't care about his crimes, because imagining that they have somehow 'owned a Lib!" is much more important.
#52 | POSTED BY CORKY"

Because, as already explained to you, you may think these claims are Gospel - we think these claims are TDS ------- nonsense. When they get tossed one after the other, we can circle back and discuss which one of us was correct.

#96 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-05 10:46 PM | Reply

There's only one choice that saves the future for your children. One.

#97 | Posted by YAV at 2024-07-05 10:48 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"There's only one choice that saves the future for your children. One.
#97 | POSTED BY YAV"

Finally something we can agree on. The elevated risk for global nuclear war due to Biden is at the highest it has been since the Cuban Missile Crisis. So, we can agree that only voting for Trump is guaranteed to avert this catastrophe. Congrats on finally coming around to thinking like a sane person.

#98 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-05 10:52 PM | Reply

Another question for you --------.

Biden said he was thrown off in the debate because even though Trump had his mic muted, he was shouting at him.

When did this occur because they were shown in split screen and this DID NOT HAPPEN.

So, we are left with the possible reasons why Biden said this:

1.) Biden is just a compulsive liar and thinks his ------- Dem supporters will believe him saying it over their own lying eyes
2.) He was wearing an ear piece and confused his team trying to feed him answers for Trump
3.) In additional to having a broken brain, Biden is also hearing voices in his head
4.) All of the above

Which is the correct one?

#99 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-05 11:04 PM | Reply

- Trump did not lose a free and fair election.

A claim that 60 plus Judges laughed out of their Courts, and several Republican States investigated and found no rigging that would have changed the results.

You have no evidence of the above claim, you are merely lying, badly. You should watch your Cult Leader more closely to find out out to do it right.

- a 'thought crime' now as this was never actually done?

I take it you've never heard of Attempted Robbery?

- they are alternate electors

NO, they are Fake Electors NOT APPOINTED BY THE STATE, but substituted for State Appointed Electors, and many of them are in Prison now, where their Boss, your Hero belongs.

You STILL aren't lying very well, if you'll notice

- He did not send a violent mob

Gee, who then was that Fat Orange Man who told angry mob he riled up to go to the Capitol at the exact time the Ballots were being counted and disrupt the peaceful transfer of power in this country?

Your lies aren't getting any better.

- we think these claims are TDS ------- nonsense.

Ah so, you are saying that the dozens of Trumpers who made testified to the veracity of these charges under Oath were actually Dem Crisis Actor, eh?

Figures.

You are a much feebler liar than your Cult Leader. Just as 'Stupid' per Ann Coulter, but not as good.

#100 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-05 11:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#66, #73 I watched it on ABC's website, but apparently because i started viewing it a few minutes late, it WAS edited, cutting off the end of the interview. I saw it from the beginning, but a few minutes delayed. The last question and answer were cut off and the broadcast rejoined the live portion when the commentary started.

I didn't realize part of it was missing until I looked at the transcript.

#101 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-07-05 11:10 PM | Reply

#71 ""MSNBC, hasn't scrutinized Trump's debate performance with half the scrutiny they are giving to Biden's"

Are you seriously suggesting that MSNBC has been biased in favor of Trump? Ok, I will bite, WHY?

#102 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-07-05 11:16 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"- Trump did not lose a free and fair election.
A claim that 60 plus Judges laughed out of their Courts, and several Republican States investigated and found no rigging that would have changed the results.

The courts 100% found evidence of fraud. It was just IN THEIR OPINION - not enough to overturn the election. Sorry, we disagree about this OPINION.

"- a 'thought crime' now as this was never actually done?
I take it you've never heard of Attempted Robbery?"

Have you never sought legal advice -------? This is how the process works - you ask hypotheticals and you find out what are your legal options. Asking for legal advice DOES NOT MEAN ATTEMPTED ANYTHING.

"- they are alternate electors
NO, they are Fake Electors NOT APPOINTED BY THE STATE"

The precedent is Hawaii 1960 -------. There is nothing illegal here. Just because you are convicted in a Democrat show trial does not mean you did anything wrong. There was no difference to Hawaii 1960.

"Gee, who then was that Fat Orange Man who told angry mob he riled up to go to the Capitol at the exact time the Ballots were being counted and disrupt the peaceful transfer of power in this country?"

His EXACT ---- WORDS: "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

1.) No where does he instruct them to do ANYTHING. He is acknowledging what the crowd was already planning to do.
2.) He specifically instructs them to be peaceful

You got nothing here accept irrational fears confined to your own imagination.

"Ah so, you are saying that the dozens of Trumpers who made testified to the veracity of these charges under Oath were actually Dem Crisis Actor, eh?
#100 | POSTED BY CORKY "

When people are put on a show trial, it is amazing the types of things they will testify to.

#103 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-05 11:19 PM | Reply

Are you seriously suggesting that MSNBC has been biased in favor of Trump? Ok, I will bite, WHY?
#102 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7

I'm saying many of them are busy cannibalizing Biden right now and aren't spending a whole lot of time on Trump.

#104 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-07-05 11:20 PM | Reply

Gal,
Here was CNN's quick and dirty fact check which aired immediately after the debate.

archive.ph

#105 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-07-05 11:23 PM | Reply

"I'm saying many of them are busy cannibalizing Biden right now and aren't spending a whole lot of time on Trump.
#104 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY"

They have been busy cannibalizing Biden from exactly the moment the debate ended and will continue to do so for the 5 or 6 days and then they will go back to their water carrying as they have done for the entire existence of their worthless channel if Biden refuses to step aside.

#106 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-05 11:26 PM | Reply

- IN THEIR OPINION - not enough to overturn the election. Sorry, we disagree about this OPINION.

LMAO! That's all you've got? The expert investigators hired by the State couldn't count?

And didn't know how many votes it would take to win? WOW.. you are NO good at this thinking thing, are you.

- Asking for legal advice

Wow. Yet another lie... he wasn't asking for legal advice; he was looking for a stooge dumb enough to do something totally illegal in LYING to the states about how they could change the already tabulated vote from Biden to Trump.

It was illegal, which is why HIS ENTIRE DOJ Leadership that he appointed, Trumpers all, threatened to RESIGN EN MASSE rather than break the law.

Damn, but you're stupid! Or brainwashed... or Orange Kool Aided.

- His EXACT ---- WORDS:

"One judge, a Trump appointee who served in his administration, said Trump potentially instigated violence when he told his supporters the election was stolen and urged them to march on the Capitol and "fight like hell."

The "arguable incitement," Judge Gregory G. Katsas said, "makes this a hard case."

www.washingtonpost.com

You are really too moronic a liar to be any good at it. You should leave it to the Trumps of the world. I mean, when you are lying, you are just being ignorant of the facts.

But it appears to be a willful ignorance, so same thing, really.

#107 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-05 11:35 PM | Reply

= When people are put on a show trial, it is amazing the types of things they will testify to.

Oh, sorry. I missed the cherry on top of the stupid cake.

What's not at all amazing, and is rather common place in criminal trials, is that people who are INVOLVED in the crimes and or are witnesses to crimes will TESTIFY Under Oath TRUTHFULLY under Penalty Of Perjury.

So, you are saying that these Trumpers lied about Trump committing crimes because.... why now?

If there hadn't been crimes committed, then they would have no reason to testify that there had.

This is simple stuff... but so unsurprising you don't grok it.

But hey, Cultists will Cult.

#108 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-05 11:41 PM | Reply

"- IN THEIR OPINION - not enough to overturn the election. Sorry, we disagree about this OPINION.
LMAO! That's all you've got? The expert investigators hired by the State couldn't count?
#107 | POSTED BY CORKY"

The fact is that Fulton county still will not turn over ballot images and AZ continues to be litigated in court on top of PA mail in ballot scheme being unconstitutional by their own state laws. You can keep banging the drum how this was the freest and fairest election in US history but more and more people no longer believe your constant lies. When 2024 happens and Biden comes up way less than 81M votes, the truth of 2020 will be apparent to all but the most ------- of the --------.

#109 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-05 11:43 PM | Reply

"If there hadn't been crimes committed, then they would have no reason to testify that there had.
#108 | POSTED BY CORKY"

Did you have prior employment with the KGB or Gestapo? Sure seems that way. But, I look forward to you 100% backtracking on this statement in 2025 with the Trump Revenge Tour is in full force.

#110 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-05 11:45 PM | Reply

I'm not going to talk shht here, but it's over for Joe. I know it's too late for the Dems to change him out, but I'd be heavily focusing on the down ballot from this point forward.

#111 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-07-05 11:47 PM | Reply

Gal,
Here was CNN's quick and dirty fact check which aired immediately after the debate.
archive.ph
#105 | POSTED BY MIRANDA

I'm well aware of Daniel Dale's excellent work, but one 3 minute fact check versus--what are we up to now?--a week of concentrating on Biden does not for equity make.

#112 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-07-05 11:47 PM | Reply

#64

I didn't think you were that dense, clown. Anybody that knows my posting history knows why I've always detested "Assault weapons" ban Joementia, regardless of Trump.

#113 | Posted by willowby at 2024-07-05 11:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#109

Awww... would you like a hanky, deary?

You can repeat as much Steve Bannon and Alex Jones troll bait lies as you like, but it's not factual; if had been, all those millions that Rudy G spent to make it so would have found the 'rigging' that didn't exist.

"No evidence for systematic voter fraud: A guide to statistical claims about the 2020 election"

After the 2020 US presidential election Donald Trump refused to concede, alleging widespread and unparalleled voter fraud.

Trump's supporters deployed several statistical arguments in an attempt to cast doubt on the result. Reviewing the most prominent of these statistical claims, we conclude that none of them is even remotely convincing."

www.pnas.org

#114 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-05 11:51 PM | Reply

#104 ok, I can agree with that. I got whiplash from the way the entire news media suddenly flipped the switch and decided to bury Biden alive, ALL of them in lockstep. I have NEVER seen anything like that, and it did make me wonder who is pulling the collective strings.

#115 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-07-05 11:52 PM | Reply

They have been busy cannibalizing Biden from exactly the moment the debate ended and will continue to do so for the 5 or 6 days and then they will go back to their water carrying as they have done for the entire existence of their worthless channel if Biden refuses to step aside.
#106 | POSTED BY CLAUDIO

Maybe, maybe not, but by then the damage will already be done and by them because they think it means they are better than Republicans and rightwing media. That's a mistake Republicans never make. Don't bring a knife to a gun fight, and yet Democrats do it every time.

#116 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-07-05 11:52 PM | Reply

#104 ok, I can agree with that. I got whiplash from the way the entire news media suddenly flipped the switch and decided to bury Biden alive, ALL of them in lockstep. I have NEVER seen anything like that, and it did make me wonder who is pulling the collective strings.
#115 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7

Yeah, I don't know about the media, but Democrats are doing it themselves. Remember when they threw Al Franken under the bus during the height of the #MeToo movement? Democrats go all wobbly and all or nothing and become their own worst enemy. Circular firing squad and all that.

#117 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-07-05 11:56 PM | Reply

- the Trump Revenge Tour

Mommy's Boy thinks Trump is going to shed some blood on the tree of liberty for him, ol.

Hell, man, you can't even make a decent argument here without resorting to threats.

Do you know what Donald Trump would do if he saw you lying in the road on fire?

Well, he wouldn't even piss on you to put it out, even if be needed to piss.

You are mark for a con man, and an easy one at that.

#118 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-05 11:57 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

he needed

#119 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-05 11:59 PM | Reply

""No evidence for systematic voter fraud: A guide to statistical claims about the 2020 election"
#114 | POSTED BY CORKY "

Again, this is an OPINION, not a FACT. They cannot claim 'no evidence for voter fraud' because that would be an outright lie. So, they give you -------- this -------- not expecting you to be smart enough to tell the difference - and they are correct.

#120 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-06 12:00 AM | Reply

"Maybe, maybe not, but by then the damage will already be done and by them because they think it means they are better than Republicans and rightwing media.
#116 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY"

The damage was already done directly by Joe's performance at the debate and will only be amplified by refusing to take a cognitive test now.

As for the media, they will collectively fall lockstep in line in about 5-6 days repeating how Joe Biden just had a single bad night and that he is as sharp as he has ever been (which may have some truth as he was always a dumbass). They will completely ignore EVERYTHING that they have reported over the last week and further drive their credibility into the dirt.

It is further evidence of this great line: If you come at the king, you best not miss.

...and I believe Joe will refuse to step down so this actual week of non-biased news reporting for the first time in years will only serve to make Biden unelectable and further drive down media credibility.

#121 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-06 12:05 AM | Reply

Joementia didn't assuage anything tonight. Does he still have a cold? He didn't look as bad as the befuddled old man we saw at the debate.

#122 | Posted by willowby at 2024-07-06 12:08 AM | Reply

- is an OPINION, not a FACT.

Actually it's a highly sophisticated, expert statistical study of the election, concluding as all such studies have in various states and nationwide.... that there were no voting violations that would have changed the results of the 2020 election.

Of course, the concluded Court and the State investigations by some strange to Trumpers, mysterious coincidence have said the very same thing.

But since you didn't read it, or couldn't understand it if you did, you wouldn't know that.

It is tiresome trying to teach a 5 year old to read at at least 8th grade level, but we try.

btw, are you going to be visiting your Mentor Steve Bannon in prison?

Maybe bring him some soap on a rope? That could save his only cherry for him. Just sayin'.

#123 | Posted by Corky at 2024-07-06 12:18 AM | Reply

He didn't look as bad as the befuddled old man we saw at the debate.

#122 | POSTED BY WILLOWBY

He definitely looked better than the lying Mussolini wannabe we also saw in the debate.

#124 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-07-06 12:23 AM | Reply

#123

Buh trump...buh Trump.

That's ALL the far left DR idiots have on a story about Joementia.

Buh Trump is a pathetic defense of Joementia

#125 | Posted by willowby at 2024-07-06 12:27 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

well if he continues to run, and loses, it'll be interesting to hear what the excuses are.
that interview didn't make me feel more confident of a democrat win
but his attitude was exactly what I expected. what's good for joe...

#126 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-07-06 12:59 AM | Reply

#124

Not even close. He still looked and acted like the walking befuddled cadaver he is.

#127 | Posted by willowby at 2024-07-06 01:09 AM | Reply

well if he continues to run, and loses, it'll be interesting to hear what the excuses are.

I'd go with didn't get enough of the right kind of votes.

#128 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-07-06 01:10 AM | Reply

"well if he continues to run, and loses, it'll be interesting to hear what the excuses are.
#126 | POSTED BY BRERRABBIT"

If Joe is down 6 points in early October, there will be a historic fleeing of rats off a sinking ship and trying to ingratiate themselves with Trump to avoid prosecution. This will lead to a Trump and down ballot blow out.

#129 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-06 01:30 AM | Reply

"Yeah, I don't know about the media, but Democrats are doing it themselves. Remember when they threw Al Franken under the bus during the height of the #MeToo movement? Democrats go all wobbly and all or nothing and become their own worst enemy. Circular firing squad and all that.

#117 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY"

Al Franken was an easy target to virtue signal because he was replaced with another Democrat and no power was lost.

#130 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-06 03:36 AM | Reply

#129
FLAGGED: High as a kite

#131 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-07-06 07:31 AM | Reply

It's time to take the car keys away from the aging relative. Guardianship of an aging relative would require a family court to allow it. For a physically declining President, the 25th Amdt might be needed but that would probably provoke a constitutional crisis. And making the vice president the president before the convention will throw everything into disarray.

If Biden were truly concerned about the Democratic parties chances in November, and the impact is continuing to run might have all the country, he would publicly release his delegates and say that he is going to retire at the end of this term and will figure support whoever the Democratic Party chooses to run.

#132 | Posted by Augustine at 2024-07-06 07:57 AM | Reply

If Biden were truly concerned about the Democratic Party's chances in November, and the impact is continuing to run might have all the country, he would publicly release his delegates and say that he is going to retire at the end of this term and will figure support whoever the Democratic Party chooses to nominate.

#133 | Posted by Augustine at 2024-07-06 08:00 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#133 they need a better story that "support whoever the Democratic Party chooses to nominate." They need someone Biden can endorse now.

#134 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-07-06 08:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

biden is, and has always been, a political windsock. his entire career has been based on what would keep his access to the government ---.
the interview last night only confirmed peoples opinion of his debate performance

trumps continued allure ...juxtaposing his and bidens terms as president, points out
two extremely glaring facts, biden's to old and americans, evidently, have a very short memory

#135 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-07-06 09:36 AM | Reply

this is how stupid you people are when you think that people are stupid enough

to buy what this little man and the brain dead POS are doing.

--dems are "taking a disastrous performance and show the public that it wasn't using

a pre-taped / edited interview."

--Kat Tempt

not gonna work as the poll of 27 % want biden and 73 % want ANY ONE ELSE !!! explains.

#136 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-07-06 10:20 AM | Reply

The only thing we want to know is who's running the cover up to the cover up.

George the garden gnome. ..the 2 faced hypocrite who ran the clinton war room and directed people in the field

to find bill's accusers and "ruin their life"...is one of them.

#137 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-07-06 10:24 AM | Reply

Biden is looking very orange lately.

#138 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-07-06 10:55 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Options:

Mark Kelly (retired USN Captain & astronaut, US Senator from
Arizona)
www.politico.com

Andy Beshear (Charismatic, youthful & articulate Democratic Governor of Kentucky)
www.courier-journal.com

Probably others, but if the races for a handful of swing states, these two represent two swing states that probably indicate that they could pull in others to vote for them.

#139 | Posted by Augustine at 2024-07-06 11:14 AM | Reply

Biden is not up to one on one meetings with world leaders. Kamala could easily handle meetings with up to three world leaders at a time. Four if she used both hands.

#140 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-07-06 11:23 AM | Reply

I could see Mark Kellly mopping up the floor with the Tchump after every one of the "great narcissist's" childish jibes or unfounded comments about America's reputation around the globe or election integrity.

#141 | Posted by Augustine at 2024-07-06 11:29 AM | Reply

#140 POSTED BY VISITOR......Four if she used both hands

you been talkin' to willy brown

#142 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-07-06 11:31 AM | Reply

Re 140

Republican math.

#143 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-07-06 11:35 AM | Reply

Re 140
Republican math.
#143| POSTED BY DONNERBOY

Anything less would be under achievement...anything more would be freaky

#144 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-07-06 12:01 PM | Reply

anything more would be freaky

#144 | POSTED BY BRERRABBIT

5 is freaky but 4 is not?

Republican morals.

#145 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-07-06 12:09 PM | Reply

" I'm saying many of them are busy cannibalizing Biden right now and aren't spending a whole lot of time on Trump.

#104 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY AT 2024-07-05 11:20 PM | FLAG: "

2 weeks before the debate they had circled the wagons around Biden when overseas video footage was as damning as his debate performance. "Cheap fakes". They were complicit in hiding his condition. They colluded and participated in it. Problem is, the debate was 90 minutes with no teleprompter, no note cards and no aides or allies, like the Easter Bunny, to steer him away from folly. It was pure and unadulterated Biden. And it was horrific. On a split screen Trump looked good by comparison. With their credibility at historic all-time lows did you expect them to gaslight even more?

I m guessing it's unsettling to being accustomed to sycophantic treatment from the MSM to turn honest, for just a few days.

Right now the Democratic Party is fractured to a degree I haven't witnessed before. But they are organized and will quickly either dump Biden or will really behind him and the MSM will dutifully follow suit.

#146 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-06 12:57 PM | Reply

#139 | Posted by Augustine

Beshear-Whitmer 2024. They're both term limited.

We wouldn't want to lose a Senate seat just now with Dems defending more seats this year.

#147 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-07-06 12:57 PM | Reply

it was edited footage purposefully done to make biden look bad. you and the "liberal" msm have almost gotten joes scalp and ruined his career, while defending a twice imprached, rapist, felon, liar, defamer, insurrectionist that cheated on his pregnant third wife with a porn star.

enjoy your momentwith pride, bellringer. if successful you get Kamala Harris to destroy next.

#148 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-06 01:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

2 weeks before the debate they had circled the wagons around Biden when overseas video footage was as damning as his debate performance. "Cheap fakes". They were complicit in hiding his condition. They colluded and participated in it. Problem is, the debate was 90 minutes with no teleprompter, no note cards and no aides or allies, like the Easter Bunny, to steer him away from folly. It was pure and unadulterated Biden. And it was horrific. On a split screen Trump looked good by comparison. With their credibility at historic all-time lows did you expect them to gaslight even more?
I m guessing it's unsettling to being accustomed to sycophantic treatment from the MSM to turn honest, for just a few days.
Right now the Democratic Party is fractured to a degree I haven't witnessed before. But they are organized and will quickly either dump Biden or will really behind him and the MSM will dutifully follow suit.

#146 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Liar

The video footage was edited to make is seem Biden was clueless, when in the real world he was talking to another paratrooper.

The MSM is performing journalistic malpractice by not attacking ------- with the same volume and intensity they attack Biden.

www.emptywheel.net

Compare the coverage to a single bad debate to being found guilty of 34 felonies.

The difference in coverage is outrageous.

We barely hear 1/10th of the insanity that spews from -------'s mouth on a daily basis.

Imagine a MSM that framed -------'s brain fog, malapropisms, lunatic tangents, lies in even a slightly similar manner as they do Biden's age.

The funny thing is that should ------- be re-elected these very same MSM outlets will be paying a severe price for being "enemies of the people"

#149 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-06 01:05 PM | Reply

Its outrageous that this election could even be close.

we are a stupid people.

#150 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-06 01:09 PM | Reply

Liar

That's Jeff (Bellringer) to his core.

#151 | Posted by YAV at 2024-07-06 01:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#149 ... The video footage was edited to make is seem Biden was clueless, when in the real world he was talking to another paratrooper. ...

Correct.


#152 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-06 01:11 PM | Reply

republicans are the ones "circling the wagons". why are there no calls for trump to drop out?he is as unfit for office as you can get.
biden had one awful debate performance. trump lost all three debates to hillary, badly.

im very tired of democrats forming a circular firing squad and republicans never admitting when they are wrong.

#153 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-07-06 01:12 PM | Reply

@#151 ... That's Jeff (Bellringer) to his core. ...

If Pres Biden is such a bad candidate, then why does MAGA find the need to lie and created bogus videos to counter him?


#154 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-06 01:13 PM | Reply

I know it seems hyperbolic but Jeff really never posts something that isn't deceitful

#155 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-06 01:16 PM | Reply

fwiw ...

ABC News anchor George Stephanopoulos' exclusive interview with Biden:
Full transcript
abc7ny.com

#156 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-06 01:20 PM | Reply

this is not satirical or sarcasm.

THIS is your president of the united states....you know him....that "sharp as a tack" guy....

--I......I...uh...."proud to be the first vice president, the first black woman.....to serve with

a black president" ..wait for applause.. look to the left... scroll down."

#157 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-07-06 02:20 PM | Reply

ABC News anchor George Stephanopoulos' exclusive interview with Biden:
Full transcript
abc7ny.com

#156 | Posted by LampLighter

worthless....you wasted your time but I know your audience and they don't care.

.a disastrous public performance can't be explained truthfully in an edited / pre-taped

interview....especially the interview of a democrat interviewed by a PROVEN AND FACTUAL democrat 2 faced lying hypocrite.

#158 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-07-06 02:25 PM | Reply

All you ever do is wash Joeys balls.

#35 | POSTED BY FORTFISHER

You had to take your tongue out of Trumps a** long enough to type that...

#159 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-07-06 02:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trumpers have been scrubbing Trump's taint for 8 years.

The fat loser did nothing but cry for the last four years and he still has these idiots fighting to vote for him.

Deplorable Trumping MAGAts are the dumbest people in America.

No wonder they all vote republican.

#160 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-06 02:59 PM | Reply

Biden is not up to one on one meetings with world leaders. Kamala could easily handle meetings with up to three world leaders at a time. Four if she used both hands.

#140 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-07-06 11:23 AM | Reply | Flag:

I don't know, I still see room for one more. 5 it is.

#161 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-07-06 03:07 PM | Reply

| POSTED BY SHRIMPdick

shrimptacodan, 23 plonks

Don't you get it? Your idiotic posting style is off putting and annoying.

No one wants to read you stupid nonsense.

There a reason literacy is taught in public schools. It's to help teach people how to communicate their ideas in a way for others to easily understand.

You should sue your parents for homeschooling you.

You're clearly mentally disabled and distressed.

#162 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-06 03:07 PM | Reply

Keir Semmens
@KeirSemmens
Stephanopoulos: ABC News also offered a one-on-one interview to Donald Trump. He declined.

x.com

The cowardly------------- didn't want to answer any questions about Project 2025 or why his name is plastered all over the Epstein files.

#163 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-07-06 03:08 PM | Reply

I don't know, I still see room for one more. 5 it is.
#161 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTURDS

Is that what your sister taught you, your father, your uncle and your 2 cousins?

#164 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-06 03:09 PM | Reply

@#158 ... I know your audience and they don't care. ...

So, your current alias seems to claim it can read minds now?


... .you wasted your time ...

I don't think I wasted my time posting a link to the interview transcript.

Indeed, if anyone here seems to be wasting their time, based upon recent posts I'd proffer that the person behind your current alias should look in the mirror.


#165 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-06 03:17 PM | Reply

"If Pres Biden is such a bad candidate, then why does MAGA find the need to lie and created bogus videos to counter him?"

Honestly, if you're Trump, you want Biden to run.

If the Dems replace Biden, and do it smartly, Trump will lose his ass.

But it is getting late in the game. They need to ---- or get off the pot.

#166 | Posted by madbomber at 2024-07-06 03:20 PM | Reply

@#166 ... Honestly, if you're Trump, you want Biden to run. ...

At this point, I do not disagree.

But that doesn't answer the question I asked and you quoted. :)


... But it is getting late in the game. They need to ---- or get off the pot. ...

Yup. Deadlines are starting to appear on the horizon, notably Ohio's recent law.

#167 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-06 03:30 PM | Reply

Is that what your sister taught you, your father, your uncle and your 2 cousins?

#164 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-06 03:09 PM | Reply

Why are you dragging your Nooner trash to the threads, dumbass?

#168 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-07-06 03:42 PM | Reply

You're the trash.

#169 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-06 04:02 PM | Reply

Get Biden the F out of here. Enough.

#170 | Posted by e1g1 at 2024-07-06 04:16 PM | Reply

"If Pres Biden is such a bad candidate, then why does MAGA find the need to lie and created bogus videos to counter him?"

Same reason partisans had to distort many of the things Trump did or said in the previous two elections, even though he was a terrible candidate who verifiably did and said many risible things. Hackers gonna hack.

#171 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-07-06 04:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Biden's debate performance was not a one off. He's been like that since he was elected and has gotten worse with age.

Twoothy and Yav can gaslight all they want but we know what we've been witnessing with Biden.

For those of you who are going to vote for Biden if he doesn't drop out - who are you actually voting for?

The honest answer is you don't know. Maybe Dr Jill (although I highly doubt she's driving policy decisions). Probably Obama running for a 4th term and second stealth term. But you don't know for sure.

#172 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-06 07:17 PM | Reply

What about -------- debate performance? Where are the calls for him to drop out? Where are the calls for is cognitive testing?

You know why I am supporting Biden?

Because he is the single person in this country that can stop a fascist takeover. He is the single person, whose election can save this country from becoming a white christian nationalist fascist country.

So, please forgive me if I say Go ---- Yourself.

#173 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-06 07:33 PM | Reply

Look. I have a cognitive test every single day. Every day I have that test. Everything I do. You know, not only am I campaigning, but I'm running the world. Not - and that's not hi -sounds like hyperbole, but we are the essential nation of the world," he asserted.
-Does The World know this?

#174 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-07-06 07:40 PM | Reply

" What about -------- debate performance? "

It wasn't good. But compared to Biden, on a split screen, he looked like Socrates.

#175 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-06 07:47 PM | Reply

You're such a fricking drama queen. I'm embarrassed for you.

#176 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-06 07:48 PM | Reply

Joementia is toast. It won't be God almighty that tells him to drop out. It will be the donors that are currently panicking, which is basically the same thing to politicians.

#177 | Posted by willowby at 2024-07-06 07:51 PM | Reply

"Joementia is toast"

Keep telling yourself that.

Meanwhile, Biden's polling has rebounded, more red states are getting women's rights on the ballot, and the polls have still not been adjusted to account for P.O.'d women.

Red Kansas, Red Ohio, and Red Alabama we're all harbingers, as was OH06, a +29 for Trump, where the (R) won by 9 points.

The current polls use the last Presidential election. All adjustments omit women fearing for their rights.

#178 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-06 08:15 PM | Reply

It's way too early to look at polling and draw conclusions as to how things will shake out in November.

#179 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-07-06 08:19 PM | Reply

173. Truth Hurts "So, please forgive me if I say Go ---- Yourself.

Democrats absurdly claim to be intellectuals when this is their typical claim to intellectualism. Democrats should never ever again have the opportunity to lead America.

#180 | Posted by Robson at 2024-07-06 08:23 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

" It's way too early to look at polling and draw conclusions "

Keep telling yourself that.

Meanwhile, what were the polls in Kansas before the abortion vote? What were the polls in Ohio before the women's rights vote? What were the polls in Alabama before that vote?

And what were the polls in Trump +29, Ohio sixth, before the Republican only won by 9?

The polls and the results are worlds apart. That should tell you something.

Feel free to explain why Dems, and Dem policies, keep over performing at the voting booth.

#181 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-06 08:25 PM | Reply

"Feel free to explain why Dems, and Dem policies, keep over performing at the voting booth.
#181 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Because people by and large, don't really participate in mid term or special elections so they are much easier to manipulate by spending large money - and the Dems crush the GOP in election spending. Also, women and gay men are really, really concerned about mothers' rights to kill their children for some reason. For about the 50th year in a row the #1 cause of death for children in the US was their mother, and it is not even close. Each year, mothers are 100,000x more deadly for children than covid but -------- think those are rookie numbers and want them bumped up more.

#182 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-06 09:11 PM | Reply

Also, women and gay men are really, really concerned about mothers' rights to kill their children for some reason.

Scatberg, why did your child-raping hero force Ivanka to abort her sibling?

#183 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-07-06 09:13 PM | Reply

" women and gay men are really, really concerned about mothers' rights to kill their children"

Tell us you're a misogynist without using those specific words.

#184 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-06 09:14 PM | Reply

"Scatberg, why did your child-raping hero force Ivanka to abort her sibling?
#183 | POSTED BY REINHEITSGEBOT"

Link?

#185 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-06 09:15 PM | Reply

" Each year, mothers are 100,000x more deadly for children than covid"

Republican Math is a dangerous thing.

Look how it forces otherwise good Republicans to lie!

#186 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-06 09:16 PM | Reply

Roger Stone confirmed it.

thehill.com

#187 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-07-06 09:17 PM | Reply

" people by and large, don't really participate in mid term or special elections"

Keep telling yourself that. By the way, what will be your excuse when Republicans lose in November?

#188 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-06 09:18 PM | Reply

"" women and gay men are really, really concerned about mothers' rights to kill their children"
Tell us you're a misogynist without using those specific words.
#184 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

So that is not what abortion is? It is not killing your kid? I think you -------- are feigning outrage currently about a GOP politician saving that some men need to be killed ... but then you actively support a couple hundred thousand kids being killed each year and want to extend the hunting season right up until birth, and for people like the former VA governor, even after birth.

#189 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-06 09:18 PM | Reply

" So that is not what abortion is?"

If men got pregnant, you'd be able to get an abortion at a QT drive-thru window.

This is all about controlling women, period.

#190 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-06 09:24 PM | Reply

"So that is not what abortion is? It is not killing your kid?"

Killing the fetus before it becomes anyone's kid.

#191 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-07-06 09:25 PM | Reply

We all understand you want more single moms.

Tell us why you want that.

#192 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-07-06 09:26 PM | Reply

"" Each year, mothers are 100,000x more deadly for children than covid"
Republican Math is a dangerous thing.
Look how it forces otherwise good Republicans to lie!
#186 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

There were ~1M US abortions in 2023 and about 3.5M from 2020-2023 (covid years) - how many kids under 5 died from covid in the US during that time? - hint, it was effective zero as linked below

abortion number: www.npr.org

covid deaths for kids under 5
www.nature.com

#193 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-06 09:27 PM | Reply

"Killing the fetus before it becomes anyone's kid.
#191 | POSTED BY SNOOFY"

Can you give me the definition difference between a kid and a fetus?

#194 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-06 09:28 PM | Reply

"Tell us why you want that.
#192 | POSTED BY SNOOFY"

Abortion will be seen no different than slavery in about 50 years. The human race has allowed immoral practices for its entire history but eventually does wake up and stop the practices.

#195 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-06 09:33 PM | Reply

" ... how many kids under 5 ... "

So at 5 they're no longer kids?!?

Or were you cherry-picking?

#196 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-06 09:37 PM | Reply

Given the inability for our planet to keep up with population growth, it is far more likely abortion will be required.

#197 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-06 09:40 PM | Reply

Abortion will be seen no different than slavery

Forced birth is slavery dumbass

#198 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-06 09:42 PM | Reply

"Abortion will be seen no different than slavery in about 50 years."

Really? It hasn't in the last 5000.

Any other stupid predictions?

#199 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-06 09:58 PM | Reply

In the real world modern countries are moving decidedly to reproductive freedom. The usofa not so much. Out religious nutters have too much power

#200 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-06 10:04 PM | Reply

"Really? It hasn't in the last 5000.
#199 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Neither was slavery right up to about 160 years ago - and even today it persists.

But, people become enlightened eventually.

#201 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-06 10:27 PM | Reply

"Forced birth is slavery dumbass
#198 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS"

'forced birth' is living with the consequences of your actions - and the desires of the mother have to be weighed against those of the child. But - let's play this game. Are you for ANY restrictions on abortion?

#202 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-06 10:29 PM | Reply

"'forced birth' is living with the consequences of your actions "

Except you make no exceptions for the actions of OTHERS. You'd force a rape victim to carry her attacker's child.

"let's play this game. Are you for ANY restrictions on abortion?"

I'm for citizens making the decisions about their own body, rather than the government. BTW...can you cite any laws which only control a MAN's body?

Because it sure seems easy to forgo bodily autonomy...when it's NOT YOURS.

#203 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-06 10:36 PM | Reply

"In the real world modern countries are moving decidedly to reproductive freedom. The usofa not so much. Out religious nutters have too much power
#200 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS"

Which are these countries? It is clearly not in Europe when abortion is limited to the first trimester unless there are a specific set of exceptions and it is highly restricted in countries like Poland and banned outright in countries like Andorra.

Let's compare that to the ------- nutjobs like your former VA governor that want abortion rights even after a successful live birth - -------- are a death cult. The current ------- demands on abortion mimic those of Vietnam or China and other former communist countries that use abortion in place of birth control. Given the low value they place on human life, it is no surprise that they kill off a huge portion of their population in purges every couple of decades. Own it.

#204 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-06 10:39 PM | Reply

"It was bad epishsode ia ahtkegb ahe ajag ehwa hbe apo it was a bad night"

God help us all.

#205 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2024-07-06 10:41 PM | Reply

My grandma is 12 years older than this jackass and she's still sharp as a whip. Big Bernie supporter.

#206 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2024-07-06 10:42 PM | Reply

"It is clearly not in Europe when abortion is limited to the first trimester unless there are a specific set of exceptions"

Exceptions like, the woman wants one.
reproductiverights.org

#207 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-06 10:44 PM | Reply

"Except you make no exceptions for the actions of OTHERS. You'd force a rape victim to carry her attacker's child."

Great - outside of an exception for rape or life of the mother, do you support a 100% ban on abortion? If you don't, then I have no clue why you would bring this up as a gotcha.

"I'm for citizens making the decisions about their own body, rather than the government. BTW...can you cite any laws which only control a MAN's body?
#203 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Yeah, it is called selective service -------. That is the government literally forcing you to fight wars on their behalf - a bit more of a demand than asking a woman to carry out the pregnancy she caused through her own actions. I would also argue child support would also count under this for a pregnancy the man did not want.

But, do you have any other factually incorrect points you want to make here?

#208 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-06 10:44 PM | Reply

"that want abortion rights even after a successful live birth"

Always a lie. Still a lie.

#209 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-06 10:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm 7 minutes in. This is elder abuse.

#210 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2024-07-06 10:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In case you haven't noticed Bernie isn't in the race

#211 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-06 10:47 PM | Reply

"Yeah, it is called selective service -------"

No, that also controls a woman's body. You failed.

So do you have any ACTUAL gender-specific laws? Or are you out of ammunition???

"I would also argue child support would also count under this for a pregnancy the man did not want."

So, in your world, the woman must accepts all the consequences of sex, but the man gets an "out" if he doesn't want the child?!?

Tell us you're a misogynist without using those specific words.

Then again, thanks for admitting in your ideal world, women would be second-class citizens.

#212 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-06 10:50 PM | Reply

#211

What race? We had two corronations.

#213 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2024-07-06 10:51 PM | Reply

Bernie chose not to run if you weren't aware

#214 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-06 10:58 PM | Reply

"What race? We had two corronations."

Incumbents often don't face primaries.

Meanwhile, Trump never even showed up to the debates.

Are you surprised by either?

#215 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-06 11:02 PM | Reply

#214

Then why are you talking about him as if he ran?

#216 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2024-07-06 11:11 PM | Reply

------- with a Bernie obsession may as well be a free space in BINGO

#217 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2024-07-06 11:11 PM | Reply

"Incumbents often don't face primaries."

Yeah and that's how you end up with Bush, Trump, and likely Biden.

Modern one term ----- that thought they DESERVED the nomination. You need to stop gurgling Allan Lichtman's propaganda. The incumbent advantage is a meme for idiots.

#218 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2024-07-06 11:13 PM | Reply

"Modern one term ----- that thought they DESERVED the nomination."

AKA, the incumbent.

How many incumbents can you name in our lifetimes who got defeated by their own party?

"You need to stop gurgling Allan Lichtman's propaganda"

You need to pick up a history book.

#219 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-06 11:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

In 1776 colonial patriots put their lives and fortunes on the line to throw off a dictatorial monarch.
In 1861 millions of American patriots put their lives on the line to save the Union and defeat slavery
In 1941 millions of American patriots put their lives on the line to defeat fascists from taking over much of the world
All that is being asked of you is to vote for the single solitary person who can stop a fascist takeover of our country.

What are YOU doing to prevent a fascist takeover?

#220 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-06 11:24 PM | Reply

" that's how you end up with Bush, Trump, and likely Biden."

And Obama, Dubya, and Clinton.

Have you got a point, other than "the pendulum swings"?

#221 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-06 11:29 PM | Reply

"No, that also controls a woman's body. You failed."

Selective service controls a woman's body as well? Can you link to this? Seems to be just another ------- 'alternative fact' that you seem so found of.

""in your world, the woman must accepts all the consequences of sex, but the man gets an "out" if he doesn't want the child?!?
#212 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Ah, no. The woman would accept the consequences up until birth - at which point she would be free to give the kid up for adoption and end her parental and financial obligations. You don't give the same choice to men that will be forced to continue the financial support for the next 18 years by the government seizing their money and then jailing them if they don't comply. What is it called again if someone forces you to work and they take all the money you earn? Yeah, pretty much slavery. So, again, your ridiculous 'logic' fall on its face. Do you have any sensible arguments to make?

#222 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-06 11:44 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Ah, no. The woman would accept the consequences up until birth - at which point she would be free to give the kid up for adoption and end her parental and financial obligations. You don't give the same choice to men that will be forced to continue the financial support for the next 18 years by the government seizing their money and then jailing them if they don't comply. What is it called again if someone forces you to work and they take all the money you earn? Yeah, pretty much slavery. So, again, your ridiculous 'logic' fall on its face. Do you have any sensible arguments to make?

POSTED BY CLAUDIO AT 2024-07-06 11:44 PM | REPLY

You're a Misogynist pure and simple. No doubt about it.

#223 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-07-06 11:47 PM | Reply

""that want abortion rights even after a successful live birth"
Always a lie. Still a lie.
#209 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

We have it on video -------. Your lying eyes and ears causing problems for you again?

www.youtube.com

#224 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-06 11:49 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"#223 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR"

Tell me Laura, if you were a woman at birth, would you have be required to register for selective service?

#225 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-06 11:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Should a woman be punished for having an abortion?

#226 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-06 11:52 PM | Reply

Btw that clip doesn't say what you say it says

#227 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-06 11:53 PM | Reply

" We have it on video -------."

That's third trimester, not post-successful-birth as you claimed, dumfuq.

But while we're on the subject, what's the overriding reason for third trimester abortions?

#228 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-06 11:56 PM | Reply

"Should a woman be punished for having an abortion?
#226 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS"

For a 3rd trimester abortion lacking any medical necessity and did not involve rape or ------? YES.

"Btw that clip doesn't say what you say it says
#227 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS"

It says exactly what I said. Can't trust your lying eyes and ears again?

#229 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-06 11:57 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

" You don't give the same choice to men that will be forced to continue the financial support for the next 18 years"

Huh?

Are you saying an adopted kid's birth father must pay child support?!?

How effing dumb are you???

#230 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-06 11:59 PM | Reply

"That's third trimester, not post-successful-birth as you claimed, dumfuq.

He LITERALLY SAYS: The mother is in labor and AFTER the baby has been delivered.

How is that not post-successful birth in your ------- opinion? Stop lying.

"But while we're on the subject, what's the overriding reason for third trimester abortions?
#228 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Okay, so I give you a second chance to answer: would you agree to ban all abortion in the 3rd trimester except in the case of medical reasons, rape, and ------?

#231 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-07 12:00 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"men that will be forced to continue the financial support for the next 18 years"

Didn't they accept those responsibilities when they had sex, or are responsibilities just for the woman?

Because it seems like you want to give men a pass, while blaming women for the same behavior.

#232 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-07 12:02 AM | Reply

"Are you saying an adopted kid's birth father must pay child support?!?"

So you are now saying a man can force a woman to give a child up for adoption so he can end his financial support obligation? As far as I know, he has no such right but maybe in your world of ------- 'alternative facts' this is the case so please link to it. Back in the real world, the choice to give up for an adoption and end your financial and parental obligations solely belongs to the female just like it is solely the decision of the mother to kill her unwanted children via abortion.

"How effing dumb are you???
#230 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Yes, this is a great question I am still waiting for you to answer.

#233 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-07 12:05 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

" would you agree to ban all abortion in the 3rd trimester except in the case of medical reasons, rape, and ------?"

Sure.

But the folks you vote for wouldn't.

Are you willing to admit that truth, or are you talking active steps to hide that truth?

#234 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-07 12:05 AM | Reply

"Didn't they accept those responsibilities when they had sex"

YES - just like a woman did - so why do you want to give women a free pass?

"Because it seems like you want to give men a pass, while blaming women for the same behavior.
#232 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

I want to give men a free pass by giving them the same rights as women? Yeah, I guess when you are privileged - evening the field seems like oppression to you.

#235 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-07 12:07 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

" you are now saying a man can force a woman to give a child up for adoption so he can end his financial support obligation?"

Of course not.

But you're suggesting a father must pay child support, even after adoption.

Do you stand by that claim?

#236 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-07 12:08 AM | Reply

"" would you agree to ban all abortion in the 3rd trimester except in the case of medical reasons, rape, and ------?"
Sure.
But the folks you vote for wouldn't.
#234 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

The people I vote for 100% support this position including Trump himself - with Trump being even more liberal by stating it should be up to each state to decide. What the F are you talking about?

The only ones that don't agree to this are Democrats that want ZERO restrictions on abortion.

#237 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-07 12:09 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

" I guess when you are privileged - evening the field seems like oppression to you."

It takes a real moron to pretend that men and women go through the same thing at childbirth.

#238 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-07 12:09 AM | Reply

" The people I vote for 100% support this position"

The people you vote for want to end contraception, abortion, and IVF. You're either a bald-faced liar or an ignorant moron.

Since I'm a gentleman, I'll let you pick.

#239 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-07 12:12 AM | Reply

"But you're suggesting a father must pay child support, even after adoption.
Do you stand by that claim?
#236 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

I never stated that - stop lying. I stated that it is the choice of the mother - if SHE chooses not to give up for adoption, the father WILL BE obligated to support financially for the next 18 years. He has NO CHOICE in this matter, and as you already admitted above, he does not have the right to FORCE the mother to 1.) give the kid up for adoption or 2.) have an abortion so this obligation falls solely on the man. You disagree this is the case -------? Tell me again how men have rights that women don't.

#240 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-07 12:13 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

" it should be up to each state to decide. "

Yeah, that's why Idaho is having a women's healthcare catastrophe, and headhunters can't get medical professionals to relocate to hostile states.

Congratulations, you built that!

#241 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-07 12:15 AM | Reply

The people I vote for 100% support this position including Trump himself - with Trump being even more liberal by stating it should be up to each state to decide. What the F are you talking about?
The only ones that don't agree to this are Democrats that want ZERO restrictions on abortion.

#237 | POSTED BY CLAUDIO A

------- is the sole reason there are barbaric laws in states throughout the country and women are dying as a result.

#242 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-07 12:15 AM | Reply

"" The people I vote for 100% support this position"
The people you vote for want to end contraception, abortion, and IVF. You're either a bald-faced liar or an ignorant moron.
#239 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Link to proof that I have EVER voted for someone taking ANY of the positions you posted above -------.

You have - once again as is your MO - got pounded in an argument and are now resorting to assigning me false positions to try to repair your fragile ego. Sorry -------, you are about 0 for 200 in arguments against me - you can't win because I take logically consistent positions and you feel obligated to defend logically inconsistent ------- policies.

Again, still waiting on your link to women and selective service obligations. You want to memory hole that claim already?

#243 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-07 12:17 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"For a 3rd trimester abortion lacking any medical necessity and did not involve rape or ------? YES."

Why?

What business is it of yours?

BTW you do realize that no abortions occur that you are concerned about right there

#244 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-07 12:17 AM | Reply

It says exactly what I said. Can't trust your lying eyes and ears again?

#229 | POSTED BY CLAUDIO

It says delivered, make the newborn comfortable and a discussion is had between the doctor and the mother.

You are the one lying

#245 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-07 12:19 AM | Reply

"Yeah, that's why Idaho is having a women's healthcare catastrophe, and headhunters can't get medical professionals to relocate to hostile states.
Congratulations, you built that!
#241 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

I would argue that it has DRASTICALLY lowered the child murder rates and overall murder rates in Idaho. I know you will not see it that way but then again, your side used to argue that blacks were only 3/5ths of a human too so it is par for the course.

#246 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-07 12:20 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

""For a 3rd trimester abortion lacking any medical necessity and did not involve rape or ------? YES."
Why?
What business is it of yours?
BTW you do realize that no abortions occur that you are concerned about right there
#244 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS "

So, your answer is NO, you would not ban it despite NO ABORTIONS occurring that would fit that definition in your mind? If it never occurs, then what rights would be removed AND why are you so insistent on not banning it?

#247 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-07 12:22 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

" if SHE chooses not to give up for adoption, the father WILL BE obligated to support financially for the next 18 years."

And that's exactly what he agreed to when he had sex.

Where's the problem, unless you're advocating abandoning your biological child?

The more you post, the more you sound like a deadbeat dad.

#248 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-07 12:22 AM | Reply

"That's third trimester, not post-successful-birth as you claimed, dumfuq.
He LITERALLY SAYS: The mother is in labor and AFTER the baby has been delivered.
How is that not post-successful birth in your ------- opinion? Stop lying.
"But while we're on the subject, what's the overriding reason for third trimester abortions?
#228 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"
Okay, so I give you a second chance to answer: would you agree to ban all abortion in the 3rd trimester except in the case of medical reasons, rape, and ------?

#231 | POSTED BY CLAUDIO

We have no idea what the question/example he was discussing nor what "options" were discussed.

The example could be a fetus born without a head for all we know.

But go ahead and lie that it says something it doesn't say, that is all republicans ever have LIES

#249 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-07-07 12:23 AM | Reply

"It says delivered, make the newborn comfortable and a discussion is had between the doctor and the mother.
You are the one lying
#245 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS"

IT IS EXACTLY WHAT I SAID. That 'discussion' is about ending the life of the child. Which is exactly the same reasons why -------- also want the right to kill kids that survive an abortion. Whether the kid is viable or not, is not factor for --------, you want the right to kill it.

#250 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-07 12:24 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

" I would argue that it has DRASTICALLY lowered the child murder rates and overall murder rates in Idaho."

Well, since you've taken it upon yourself to redefine legal terms, I'm sure you're right!

But feel free to post Idaho's child murder rate statistics. You know ... to prove your claim.

#251 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-07 12:27 AM | Reply

"if SHE chooses not to give up for adoption, the father WILL BE obligated to support financially for the next 18 years."
And that's exactly what he agreed to when he had sex.
#248 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Yes - WE ARE IN 100% AGREEMENT HERE! So, explain why again you do not apply the same obligation on the woman? Also, you are not willing to admit your claim that started this whole chain of argument:

Danforth in #203: "I'm for citizens making the decisions about their own body, rather than the government. BTW...can you cite any laws which only control a MAN's body?"

So, my 2 examples - selective service and forced financial support are 100% CORRECT. Seems you get this now so you can stop digging your hole.

#252 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-07 12:28 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

" forced financial support "

You're pretending the woman would be treated differently.

She ALREADY has "forced financial support".

Your misogyny is showing.

#253 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-07 12:31 AM | Reply

"But feel free to post Idaho's child murder rate statistics. You know ... to prove your claim.
#251 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Well, there were at least 1000 murders of kids under age 1 in 2020 and the main source of the murder dropped drastically with the abortion ban. I would think the child murder rate probably dropped by 99% or more.

idahocapitalsun.com

#254 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-07 12:33 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

" my 2 examples - selective service ... "

You mean FILLING OUT A FORM?!?

Like that is some equivalent to bodily autonomy.

#255 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-07 12:33 AM | Reply

"She ALREADY has "forced financial support".
Your misogyny is showing.
#253 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

So she cannot give her child up for adoption and end her obligations? Is that what you believe and that is why you want the kids killed instead? It all makes sense now - you are just really, really stupid.

#256 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-07 12:34 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"You mean FILLING OUT A FORM?!?
Like that is some equivalent to bodily autonomy.
#255 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Filling out a form TO DO WHAT?

Even you are not that stupid -------. And with Biden trying his best to spark WW3, we may see real soon the real world consequences.

#257 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-07 12:36 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

" Well, there were at least 1000 murders of kids under age 1 in 2020"

Link, please.

And to "murders", according to Idaho law.

#258 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-07 12:36 AM | Reply

" Is that what you believe and that is why you want the kids killed instead?"

No, but it takes a really special kind of stupid to come to that conclusion.

#259 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-07 12:37 AM | Reply

" Filling out a form TO DO WHAT?"

For the vast majority, to fill out the form.

You're a moron if you think that's even in the same LEAGUE as bodily autonomy.

#260 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-07 12:40 AM | Reply

"Even you are not that stupid -------."

Thanks, but if you're trying to insult my intelligence, you should at least punctuate properly.

#261 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-07 12:42 AM | Reply

"it takes a really special kind of stupid to come to that conclusion.
#259 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Again, we are in 100% agreement that you are a special kind of stupid.

Given that your 'alternative facts' make this argument pointless, this is a good time to stop this discussion. No point rubbing your nose in your own poo any longer as you seem to enjoy it. Thus, you have some time to actually read up on selective service and the financial obligations for fathers where the woman chooses to keep a child. Maybe you can supplement your 'alternative facts' with some true ones.

#262 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-07 12:44 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

" this is a good time to stop this discussion."

I agree. Especially after your Idaho link was from two years ago, and proved none of your claim.

And since I've insisted on using IDAHO's definition of murder instead of yours, this would be a great time for you to turn tail and run.

#263 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-07 12:47 AM | Reply

"You're a moron if you think that's even in the same LEAGUE as bodily autonomy.
#260 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Hundreds of thousands of American died in wars in which they were drafted to fight. How many women died due to being denied an abortion in the case where the pregnancy was due to rape? Yes, you are correct - it is not even in the same league, just not in the way you think. Then again, this is just another example of your 'alternative facts'.

#264 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-07 12:48 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

" you have some time to actually read up on selective service and the financial obligations for fathers where the woman chooses to keep a child."

You pretend filling out a form is equivalent to forking over bodily autonomy.

You suggested fathers pay support EVEN AFTER adoption.

Dumb doesn't even BEGIN to describe ...

#265 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-07 12:50 AM | Reply

" Hundreds of thousands of American died in wars in which they were drafted to fight."

True.

But that has nothing to do with filling out a form.

#266 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-07 12:51 AM | Reply

" How many women died due to being denied an abortion in the case where the pregnancy was due to rape?"

Clearly not enough, in your world.

#267 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-07 12:53 AM | Reply

"I agree. Especially after your Idaho link was from two years ago, and proved none of your claim."

It actually EXACTLY proved it. Here is the definition of murder in Idaho:

"Murder defined. Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being including, but not limited to, a human embryo or fetus, with malice aforethought or the intentional application of torture to a human being, which results in the death of a human being."
legislature.idaho.gov"

In the year 2020, there were 1000 abortions - if there was 1000 abortions in 2023, that would have counted as 1000 murders PER THE STATE DEFINITION. There were not 1000 abortions in 2023 because of the abortion ban - hence, the abortion ban prevented 1000 murders. It is straight forward logic.

"And since I've insisted on using IDAHO's definition of murder instead of yours, this would be a great time for you to turn tail and run.
#263 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

I posted the definition above - maybe you are too stupid to read and understand it?
"Murder defined. Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being including, but not limited to, a human embryo or fetus, with malice aforethought or the intentional application of torture to a human being, which results in the death of a human being."

Again - I am done with you. No point arguing your 'alternative facts' and I don't achieve a sense of glee from rubbing your nose in your own pile of poo using true facts.

#268 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-07 12:54 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

" Murder defined. Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being including, but not limited to, a human embryo or fetus"

How many murder prosecutions for abortions to date?

#269 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-07 12:56 AM | Reply

"Again - I am done with you."

I just love a self-retorting retort!

#270 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-07 12:57 AM | Reply

"How many murder prosecutions for abortions to date?
#269 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

A strange thing happens when you pass a law - if the behavior stops, there is no need to prosecute anyone - as was the case in Idaho.

But, still waiting on your number of women that have died where the pregnancy was due to rape and the abortion was denied. Is the number greater than zero?

#271 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-07 12:59 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

" if there was 1000 abortions in 2023, that would have counted as 1000 murders PER THE STATE DEFINITION."

Except Idaho doesn't include that when reporting murders. They DO NOT include abortions when reporting the state murder rate.

#272 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-07 01:02 AM | Reply

"Except Idaho doesn't include that when reporting murders. They DO NOT include abortions when reporting the state murder rate.
#272 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

They absolutely do in starting after the law was passed. But, you go perform an abortion in Idaho right now outside of the exceptions and we see what they do to you.

#273 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-07 01:06 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Murder is homicide, right?

In all, 4,715 violent crimes were reported in Idaho last year. Homicides hit a five-year high in 2022, with 51 reported across the state.

#274 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-07 01:08 AM | Reply

"They absolutely do in starting after the law was passed."

Prove it.

#275 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-07 01:11 AM | Reply

" still waiting on your number of women that have died where the pregnancy was due to rape and the abortion was denied. Is the number greater than zero?"

Absolutely.

Did you skip macro statistics in college?

#276 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-07 01:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#219 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

I'm in my 30s and I've seen 3 incumbents fail reelection.

Get your head out of your blue maga ass.

#277 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2024-07-07 01:27 AM | Reply

* about to see 3

#278 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2024-07-07 01:28 AM | Reply

"defeated by their own party?"

What a useless qualification.

How many times have ------- incumbents allowed a primary?

Do you not understand Allan Lichtman is the Paul Krugman of neoliberalism?

#279 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2024-07-07 01:30 AM | Reply

" What a useless qualification."

Already winning a Presidential election?!?

Yeah, that's so passe .

#280 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-07 01:33 AM | Reply

" How many times have ------- incumbents allowed a primary?"

Whenever there was a challenger.

#281 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-07-07 01:36 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"In all, 4,715 violent crimes were reported in Idaho last year. Homicides hit a five-year high in 2022, with 51 reported across the state.

#274 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Yep - and it would have been 1000 higher without the abortion ban enforcement. But how many of those 51 homicides were of kids on 5? My guess is under 5 of them and probably between 0-2. So, the abortion ban effectively lowered the murder rate for kids under 5 from 1002 to 2 - a huge reduction as I stated.

#282 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-07 01:46 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Absolutely.
Did you skip macro statistics in college?
#276 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Then you should have no problem linking to many cases of it occurring. So, let's see the links.

#283 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-07 01:47 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#280 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

He won in 2020 because the adults in the room understand what a pandemic is. While he ---- himself in the basement and lied about being a one-term stop to fascism.

3.5 years later and he's just a decrepit goon that openly supports genocide and can't be bothered about what "young folk" face if trump wins again.

Call joe biden what he is" a trash republican.

#284 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2024-07-07 02:10 AM | Reply

#281 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

You can lead a ------- to reality but you can't get them to accept it.

#285 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2024-07-07 02:11 AM | Reply

Call joe biden what he is" a trash republican.

Still a better option than four years of Trump.

If you live in a swing state and actually want to stop hard core rightwing agendas, Biden is the only candidate who can actually beat Trump.

#286 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-07-07 05:58 AM | Reply

Murder is homicide, right?

All murders are homicides but not all homicides are murders.

As an example, Kyle Rittenhouse is a homicidal lunatic, but he's not a murderer.

#287 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-07-07 11:29 AM | Reply

The woman would accept the consequences up until birth - at which point she would be free to give the kid up for adoption and end her parental and financial obligations.
#222 | POSTED BY CLAUDIO

Oh I see.
So the State is allowed to impose those obligations on her, but only while she's pregnant.
Should the State impose any obligations on the father for those nine months, or is that different?

To clarify: She doesn't get paid for her service to the state for those nine months.
She's a slave to the government's desire to have unwanted fetuses carried to term, for those nine months.

#288 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-07-07 11:48 AM | Reply

"So the State is allowed to impose those obligations on her, but only while she's pregnant."

Unless it was rape (in which I would grant an exemption), then she got pregnant 100% through her own actions. So a restriction during this time is just forcing her to take responsibilities for her actions.

"Should the State impose any obligations on the father for those nine months, or is that different?"

I have no issues with the courts placing a financial obligation on the father for these 9 months - in the case where paternity is debated, wait until birth then DNA test the kid and assign the financial penalty.

"To clarify: She doesn't get paid for her service to the state for those nine months."

If she is poor, she will receive state subsidies. Further, NOT KILLING A CHILD is not a service to the state - it is lowest level of compliance with the legal requirements of the state. If having kids was a service to the state rather than a BURDEN ON THE STATE - we would probably encourage more native births rather than importing illegal immigrants.

"She's a slave to the government's desire to have unwanted fetuses carried to term, for those nine months.
#288 | POSTED BY SNOOFY"

She is bound by the same state laws as everyone else - you don't have the right to kill children just because you have unprotected sex. You seem to be hung up on your idea that 1.) children are lesser human worth and 2.) children are the sole property of the mother regardless of how unfit.

For me, having an abortion in the 3rd trimester is NO DIFFERENT than a mother of a newborn that is abusing her kids and child protective services removes the kid from the home and charges her with a crime - because I do not view children as lesser humans like -------- do.

#289 | Posted by Claudio at 2024-07-07 10:03 PM | Reply

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