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Tuesday, July 09, 2024

Actor Alec Baldwin is due to go on trial in New Mexico for a fatal shooting on the set of the Western film Rust in October 2021. Mr Baldwin, 66, faces involuntary manslaughter charges, which he denies.

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Veteran armorer turned down Rust' job over red flags'
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- - - A shooting on the set killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins

- - - Armorer Neal Zoromski declined the job because corners were being cut

- - - He said armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed was 'in over her head'

A veteran armorer who turned down a job on Alec Baldwin's "Rust" movie said there were red flags about the production that caused him to back out even as he was packing to go to the set.

Neal W. Zoromski is a veteran on movie sets with three decades of experience. In an exclusive interview with NewsNation, he said he was initially intrigued by the project.

"I just wanted to do something really artistic and beautiful, resonant, memorable that would stay with people for a long time. And this was that project, but for all the wrong reasons," he said. ...



#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-07-09 02:47 PM | Reply

Who or what certifies the armorers?

#2 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-07-10 08:33 AM | Reply

#2

Certifies?

That's not really a thing in most of the US. I could call myself a movie armorer right now if I want. I just wouldn't get any work because I don't know anybody.

If they're working with machine guns, they likely need to be a FFL/SOT.

But training has traditionally been apprenticeships. Gutierrez-Reed is a nepo baby.

Pay ain't great. You're going to have a hard time requiring expensive testing and certification for a job that pays $12k - $90k a year, with apprentices frequently working for free.

(Having worked on a few live theatre productions with guns and explosions, there usually isn't one for those. The gun is typically handled by props, things that go boom are typically handled by lighting - which means I made things go boom. I was on one community theatre production where lighting took the gun away from props because they couldn't handle it safely. Blanks in the traditional sense were NOT used, they're too loud indoors. Sound handled the gunshot, gun was modified to use a smoke charge - harmless at 1 foot distance, the actor had to be trained to simulate recoil. Toy guns painted to look real were generally preferred if possible.)

#3 | Posted by DarkVader at 2024-07-10 09:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Pay ain't great. You're going to have a hard time requiring expensive testing and certification for a job that pays $12k - $90k a year, with apprentices frequently working for free.

#3 | POSTED BY DARKVADER AT 2024-07-10 09:41 AM | FLAG:

They should probably talk to the NRA about having some kind of real training.

The outdoor pyro guys for events like air shows have certifications to use those explosives, but they're almost all blast miners by profession who do pyro demos as a 501C business they do because they love it.

#4 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-07-10 01:00 PM | Reply

Seems to be a lot of not particularly relevant questioning going on.

#5 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-07-10 06:36 PM | Reply

If this didn't happen to Baldwin and the exact same thing happened to Trump Baldwin would be calling for the electric chair.

#6 | Posted by fishpaw at 2024-07-11 10:42 AM | Reply

The gun wasn't Baldwin's responsibility. Can't see how a jury would or could find otherwise.

#7 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-07-11 12:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The gun wasn't Baldwin's responsibility.

Neither was the ammunition. I don't understand why they are going into all the details of searching the suppliers shop.

Have to make a show of it I suppose.

#8 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-07-11 04:48 PM | Reply

They did answer Lamp's long standing question as to how live ammo got on the set... two detectives are certain that the armourer brought them from home.

#9 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-07-11 06:49 PM | Reply

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