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Demographics Did Not Determine How People Voted
Democrats long believed that the diversifying of the country would lead to their party's long-term success, but President-elect Trump was able to win over many of the voters Democrats believed they could rely on.
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Harris had ZERO economic/worker messaging, just a collection of weak policies and a "I'm the same as Biden" slogan.
#1 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-11-27 01:14 PM | Reply
www.npr.org More from NPR, an interesting map.
#2 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-11-27 09:01 PM | Reply
IMO it was more the pathetic Main Street economy that the average American is experiencing [high food, fuel utilities and insurances, etc.] which people realized that another four years of the agenda driven dem administration was never going to improve.
#3 | Posted by MSgt at 2024-11-28 01:49 PM | Reply | Funny: 1
Frankly I think if the actual reason was racism, xenophobia or misogyny, the interviewee is way more likely to claim it was the economy or immigration. IOW, not all that many people will own up to those other reasons. Some have been empowered to admit it, but most are still too shy to admit to any such sociopathy.
#4 | Posted by prius04 at 2024-11-28 02:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2
The Trump/Republican strategy was and still is to igbore facts and just bake up a talking point which says what they want to believe despite the faxts; be they medical. economic or crime rates. Fact is the economy was doing well, low unemployment and rising wages which were outpacing inflation even before the inflation rate fell to just a tad over 2%, interest rates were coming down but they just repeated that the economy over and over on propaganda news and Republicans beliwve what those liars say no matter what. Same with vaccinations which are proven to work but still the anti-vaxxers were still out there repeating disproven conspiracy theories but the Republicans wanted to believe the anti-science liars so thry did. It is a fact that illegal immigrants commit fewer crimes per capita than do native born citizens but that fact was also just ignored and Party has pandered to since 2000, and especially in the Trump campaign.
#5 | Posted by danni at 2024-11-28 02:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5
I wondered when this phony-ass "ex-cop" would waddle in with more manure to spread.
#6 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-11-28 02:49 PM | Reply
#3 | Posted by MSgt
I kind of agree by that I mean people were upset about the costs of everything. This is the nonsense that shows the average American is clueless. So much of this is out of government control. It had little to nothing to do with money pumped in by the government. The whole this is so complex. Some of the main drivers:
1. COVID period. The economic costs of just the illness are massive. 2. Chronic goods shortages driven by China's extended lockdowns. This drove up the price of virtually all goods. 3. Mass knee jerk cancellations of orders by automakers of chips. 4. The high price of beef due to climate change impacting feed. 5. Avian Flu's impact on poultry farming driving up eggs and chicken. 6. Massive floods multiple years in prime farming areas of the Midwest. 7. Corporate price gouging. Record profits in the face of all these challenges. AKA Greedflation 8. All this is driving sky high insurance.
As for fuel prices - they are NOT high. I mean at the end of Trump's first term they were low because oil prices were negative and there was no demand. Biden was providing leases to American companies. The deal with them though was they had to be used. You couldn't buy them and sit on them as they did in the past. You also had Russia start a war that drove up the price of oil and we are still seeing the impact of. ALL that and I just paid the least I have paid for gas since the very beginning of COVID. A good deal of that is due to the increasing popularity of EVs - and yes sales are up significantly again in the US but massively up globally.
You can't have it both ways. You can't cry "socialism" or "communism" says Dems are anti-capitalism and be against corporations doing what they are designed to do by the current right wing take on shareholder capitalism. Can you imagine the outrage if the government put a cap on prices charged by companies?
I am so over the idiotic talking out of the side of your mouth hypocrisy.
#7 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-11-28 03:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
92% of black women voted Harris. 63% of white men voted for the treasonist rapist.
#8 | Posted by hamburglar at 2024-11-29 06:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
... Democrats long believed that the diversifying of the country would lead to their party's long-term success, but President-elect Trump was able to win over many of the voters Democrats believed they could rely on. ...
In a few respects, I agree with that.
In more respects, though, the statement's conclusion may rely upon the results of factors it does not cite.
My opinion...
For example, the Harris campaign seemed to think it could rely on identity politics to woo over those who seeded that diversification.
But, was that reliance upon identity politics a valid strategic move, when the electoral, even those who seeded that diversification, seemed to be more concerned about the economy?
#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-29 06:52 PM | Reply
#9 Lampy, can you help me understand where the Rebecca Solnit Facebook post came from? The only link I posted was to the NPR article.
#10 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-11-30 01:43 AM | Reply
Democrats long believed that the diversifying of the country would lead to their party's long-term success,
How exactly does this conspiracy work out in real life?
How are democrats diversifying the country?
92% of black women voted for Kamala Harris. Were you one of them?
#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-11-30 01:49 AM | Reply
Whenever a thread is moved to the front page, the site admin (whoever that is these days, could be a bot for all we know) adds a related facebook post as an embed. (It used to be from Twitter, but obviously this site doesn't want to promote that anymore, and there might have been a potential issue when Musk complained about tweets being embedded or read from other sites without the users having to go to X/Twitter.)
#12 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-11-30 01:56 AM | Reply
Thank you Sentinel, for explaining the process. Interesting that some of you choose to attack me for simply posting an NPR article. I expressed no opinion and added no commentary of my own, but Clown and the dead guy want to fight me. It's NPR dude, not some vast right wing conspiracy.
#13 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-11-30 07:42 AM | Reply
but Clown and the dead guy want to fight me.
Why do I want to fight you? Because I questioned you?
You posted this article, you must agree with it.
You chose not to answer my questions and instead are pretending to be a victim.
You do you.
#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-11-30 01:16 PM | Reply
"You posted this article, you must agree with it."
If you bothered to read the article you would see it is chock full of statistics, facts and research. It's not heavy on opinion, and my posting of it does not convey mine.
Yet for some reason, statistics, facts and opinions from NPR are triggering to you.
You do you, little man.
#15 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-11-30 08:21 PM | Reply
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