Musk Accuses Trump Whistleblower Vindman of 'treason,' says 'he will pay'

- It's is beyond worn out.

The only hoax around here is you, TrumperBelle.

"How Russian Money Helped Save Trump's Business
After his financial disasters two decades ago, no U.S. bank would touch him. Then foreign money began flowing in."

foreignpolicy.com

Try making an actual argument this time rather than just claiming, 'hoax'.

oh, and....

"Trump Media saved in 2022 by Russian-American under criminal investigation

Exclusive: Trump's social media company went public relying partly on loans from trust managed by person of interest to prosecutors"

www.theguardian.com

I've started reading the article first and then "guessing" what the comments will say...

and then continue....or not.

this one I got to the 2nd word...."Putin".

---that's all I needed to read.

because the " KLAN" just followed that lead...

"you people" are seriously faltering ...already... as the "opposition" ( MINORITY { THANK GAWD }

You've been lied to. Mueller spent well over a year and tens of millions of dollars and didn't find squat. Have some self respect and either get angry with yourselves for being so easily duped or get angry with those who lied to you. But stop promulgating what you all know to be lies. It's pathetic.

The Vindmans chose. Poorly. Now they can reap the whirlwind.

#8 | Posted by visitor_ a

yes.....yes they did.

and here's an example of the lack of despicable / low rent / trash bastards ..these people are.....

The wife of a former White House staffer who once stood as a witness against Donald Trump has sparked outrage after appearing to mock an apparent second assassination attempt targeting the former president.

Following the thwarted attack over the weekend, Rachel Vindman took to social media site X (formerly Twitter) to post a jovial statement downplaying the event.

"No ears were harmed. Carry on with your Sunday afternoon," she wrote, apparently referencing the first attack on Trump's life, which saw him sustain a head injury when gunman Thomas Matthew Crooks opened fire at a Pennsylvania rally in July, killing one spectator and wounding two others.

Vindman, a podcast co-host, is married to Alexander Vindman,

www.newsweek.com

Interestingly, or not if you are cynical, Vindman used his Ukrainian connections from the Trump admin to monetize the conflict along with his brother, and started a military contractor group providing front line technical services.

#24 | Posted by BellRinger

oh no....you're mistaken as you will find out soon... aaaaaaah ahhahahahhaaa

cause these people always kiss the butx of Morning joe / maddow / larry odonnel and every'

other member of the former "legacy media" that reduced themselves to ........nothing over the past 8 years.

Have some self respect

#24 | Posted by BellRinger

You first.

But I have doubts that what you did to yourself can be undone.

This picture of the------------- after he was savaged by Putin says it all.

foreignpolicy.com

Donald is what he is. "What" rather than "who". From out of nothing nothing comes. Just look at people like BELLRINGER.

#27 | Posted by sitzkrieg

there is so much more to this than putin putin putin.....

much more !!!.....so this guy may want to be careful....

"According to The New York Times, Ukrainian officials had contacted Vindman to learn about the activities of Rudy Giuliani, who apparently

was seeking to pressure Ukraine to investigate whether past officials had corruptly placed former Vice President Joe Biden's son Hunter in a

cushy post on the board of a natural gas company there. Some might call that contact with Vindman "espionage."

--John Yoo

USA TOday

"--John Yoo"

Advocates human torture.

Like you did when you thought George W. was god.

30 / 31

stupidity followed by useless nonsense...

seems like time to "play the game" on another topic......

I"m gonna go ahead and predict that no matter what issue I pick....I'll see the

words.....putin.....and cult.....

cause that's all "you people" have left....

Like you did when you thought George W. was god.

#33 | Posted by Zed

I don't know what you're talking about.

that makes two of us.... ha ha...

Zed,

I have serious concerns for your mental well-being.

Advocates human torture.

#33 | Posted by Zed

I'm not familiar with this charge you're making.....

but one thing is certain....I won't accuse you of "whataboutism" ....

I leave that stupid shvt for the leftist-d0gma uninformed KLAN.

----and that's LUNCH !!!

Advocates human torture.

MAGA filth like ------------- and patricide jeff cheered for this.

www.theguardian.com

I have serious concerns for your mental well-being.
#36 | POSTED BY BULLBRINGER

You're a lobotomy victim.

Traded in your brain to join the cult of Trump.

I have serious concerns for your mental well-being.

#36 | Posted by BellRinger

They cannot possibly exceed my concerns about your lack of character.

I'll take a schizophrenic over someone with bad morals any day.

"you people"

#34 | Posted by shrimptacodan

I don't share your values.

I often doubt that you have them.

#36

Nobody ------- cares what concerns you, you ------- little bitch.

I can't imagine living life being as miserable as you people.

It's batshht crazy

"You are clinging to a hoax"

Sorry, pal. I linked The Rubio Report for you a year or more ago.

FTW, The Republican-led Rubio Report detailed over 100 contacts between Team Trump and the Russians, all while Team Trump was telling America they had ZERO contacts.

And now, you're still denying what the Republicans ... already admitted.

Total partisan hack.

@#3 ... So, Musk is another in long line of imbeciles that fail to comprehend the legal definition of Treason. ...

I agree.

Mr Musk seems to be trying to place himself in a place he does not occupy.

@#44 ... I linked The Rubio Report for you a year or more ago.

FTW, The Republican-led Rubio Report detailed over 100 contacts between Team Trump and the Russians, all while Team Trump was telling America they had ZERO contacts. ...

As did I.

I cited that report a few times.

I can't imagine living life being as miserable as you people.

#43 | Posted by BellRinger

The idea that you have ever had any room to talk mystifies me and us.

I and we assume, from your behavior, that you identify with Donald so much that you are essentially a mini-him.

And Donald Trump is scum.

Or would you like to argue that point for the sake of your "pride"?

You can't have an honest discussion with Trump supporters who actively deny reality in order to maintain their support for a criminal rapist who intends to destroy the federal government.

It's like trying to convince a drug addict they have a problem.

You can't until they hit rock bottom.

Unfortunately for us, Trumpers won't figure it out until republicans have destroyed the nation.

" Total partisan hack.

#44 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2024-11-29 01:07 PM | FLAG: "

Was it a criminal conspiracy?

How about Kerry working with the mullahs behind the scenes after he was out of office?

Or the Biden admin giving advice to Iran as how best to launch missiles at Israel?

You, of all people, have no business calling anyone a partisan hack.

As for Zed, you act like you are on some kind of moral crusade and anyone who disagrees with your politics are monsters. It's insanity.

Are any of you capable of having a normal conversation with people who don't share all of your views?

Are any of you capable of having a normal conversation with people who don't share all of your views?
#50 | POSTED BY BULLBRINGER

It's not possible to discuss things with you when you choose to deny reality in order to maintain your support for Trump and the Republican Party.

There's only so many times before mocking you becomes a better option.

Not gonna be a oligarch dictatorship AT ALL!

Jeff's whataboutisms suck horribly. It's quite pathetic actually.

Zed, you act like you are on some kind of moral crusade

#49 | Posted by BellRinger

Whereas you segregate politics from morality. But then again, I suppose that you'd have to. Tribal imperative.

anyone who disagrees with your politics are monsters.

#49 | Posted by BellRinger

It's not been about politics for some time now. It has besn about monsters. You elected a person you know is a monster. No one is going to let you off the hook for the things that monster does.

"--the former Trump impeachment witness accused the tech billionaire and close Trump ally of being unwittingly used by Russia."

I guess the problem is that most of the GOP and MAGA seem wittingly used by Russia, but don't care.

Princess TrumperBelle has defended the Antichrist so long he's become a co-conspirator.

And when I say Antichrist, you get to chose whether Trump fits ALL the descriptions just because he is also evil, or because he is that guy.

What you don't get to say is that he doesn't fit all of the detailed descriptions.

antichrist45.com

text and video

You guys are entertaining. It's not intentional on your part which is what makes it funny.

#58

You are so transparent when you have nothing... which has become almost always these days.

Like you are Caspar the Ghost... completely see-thru.

"Was it a criminal conspiracy?"

It was certainly attempting to be one.

Regardless, you're lying about both its origin and its accuracy.

Did you ever actually read The Rubio Report, or is this just another example of you hiding behind your willful ignorance?

#60. You are the only person I ever see citing it. I never see any media outlets citing it and I diversify my sources of news to make sure I don't fall into an echo chamber.

60. You are the only person I ever see citing it. I never see any media outlets citing it and I diversify my sources of news to make sure I don't fall into an echo chamber.

#61 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-11-29 03:23 PM | Reply

LMFAO Too funny.

#61

That's hilarious! You've been in the Trump Chamber of Lies for years now. Long enough to turn you into a supporter of a criminal traitor.

Mueller spent a year and a half spending tens of millions of dollars and failed to find a criminal conspiracy. According to IG Horowitz the FBI acted unlawfully on a number of occasions in order to not only expedite their investigation but to increase their spy powers and failed to find a criminal conspiracy. Yet all we ever hear is "Russia Russia Russia!"

"Hello, the 80's are calling. They want their foreign policy back!"
Lefties: "Yuk yuk yuk!"

Do you regard the Steele Dossier as a serious document?

I follow the evidence, Corky. Near unlimited resources spent trying to prove a criminal conspiracy and it all failed.

One can despise Trump and still recognize how absurd this crap is.

I follow the evidence, Corky.

#65 | Posted by BellRinger

Liar. The "evidence" as to what Donald is would have persuaded any good man a decade ago.

You are not a good man.

@#61 ... You are the only person I ever see citing it. I never see any media outlets citing it ...

I have also cited it a few times, as I mentioned earlier on this thread.

And when it was released, there was media coverage.

e.g....

Senate report describes closer ties between 2016 Trump campaign, Russia (August 2018)
thehill.com

"unwitting ally"? I doubt it. The way he has screwed with their Starlink access suggests nothing "unwitting" about it.

"Russia Russia Russia!"

Quite the Cheerleader you are.

Also wrong on the facts.

"Senate panel finds Russia interfered in the 2016 U.S. election

(AP) " The Trump campaign's interactions with Russian intelligence services during the 2016 presidential election posed a "grave" counterintelligence threat, a Senate panel concluded Tuesday as it detailed how associates of Donald Trump had regular contact with Russians and expected to benefit from the Kremlin's help.

The nearly 1,000-page report, the fifth and final one from the Republican-led Senate intelligence committee on the Russia investigation, details how Russia launched an aggressive effort to interfere in the election on Trump's behalf.

It says the Trump campaign chairman had regular contact with a Russian intelligence officer and says other Trump associates were eager to exploit the Kremlin's aid, particularly by maximizing the impact of the disclosure of Democratic emails hacked by Russian intelligence officers.

The findings, including unflinching characterizations of furtive interactions between Trump associates and Russian operatives, echo to a large degree those of special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation and appear to repudiate the Republican president's claims that the FBI had no basis to investigate whether his campaign was conspiring with Russia.

Trump has called the Russia investigations a "hoax.""

www.pbs.org

You must be SO proud, StinkerBelle.

I follow the evidence, Corky. Near unlimited resources spent trying to prove a criminal conspiracy and it all failed.

#65 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-11-29 03:30 PM | Reply

You are a bald faced liar and you know it too. Full stop

@#64 ... Mueller spent a year and a half spending tens of millions of dollars and failed to find a criminal conspiracy. ...

The "failed to find a criminal conspiracy" assertion has been a MAGA deflection attempt since the Mueller Report was issued.

Key Findings of the Mueller Report
www.acslaw.org

... Special Counsel Robert Mueller's testimony before Congress represents a critical opportunity for the legal community to help the American people understand what is in his March 2019 Report On The Investigation Into Russian Interference

In The 2016 Presidential Election. The following summary presents key findings from the Mueller Report and is intended to help lawyers and other concerned citizens speak and write about the Special Counsel's findings in an informed manner. ...

The Special Counsel investigation uncovered extensive criminal activity

- - - The investigation produced 37 indictments; seven guilty pleas or convictions; and compelling evidence that the president obstructed justice on multiple occasions. Mueller also uncovered and referred 14 criminal matters to other components of the Department of Justice.

- - - Trump associates repeatedly lied to investigators about their contacts with Russians, and President Trump refused to answer questions about his efforts to impede federal proceedings and influence the testimony of witnesses.

- - - A statement signed by over 1,000 former federal prosecutors concluded that if any other American engaged in the same efforts to impede federal proceedings the way Trump did, they would likely be indicted for multiple charges of obstruction of justice.

Russia engaged in extensive attacks on the U.S. election system in 2016

- - - Russian interference in the 2016 election was "sweeping and systemic."[1]

- - - Russia also targeted databases in many states related to administering elections gaining access to information for millions of registered voters.[4]

The investigation "identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign" and established that the Trump Campaign "showed interest in WikiLeaks's releases of documents and welcomed their potential to damage candidate Clinton"

- - - In 2015 and 2016, Michael Cohen pursued a hotel/residence project in Moscow on behalf of Trump while he was campaigning for President.[5] Then-candidate Trump personally signed a letter of intent.

- - - Senior members of the Trump campaign, including Paul Manafort, Donald Trump, Jr., and Jared Kushner took a June 9, 2016, meeting with Russian nationals at Trump Tower, New York, after outreach from an intermediary informed Trump, Jr., that the Russians had derogatory information on Clinton that was "part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump."[6]

- - - The Report described multiple occasions where Trump associates lied to investigators about Trump associate contacts with Russia. Trump associates George Papadopoulos, Rick Gates, Michael Flynn, and Michael Cohen all admitted that they made false statements to federal investigators or to Congress about their contacts. In addition, Roger Stone faces trial this fall for obstruction of justice, five counts of making false statements, and one count of witness tampering.

- - - The Report raised questions about why Trump associates and then-candidate Trump repeatedly asserted Trump had no connections to Russia.[9] ...

etc., etc., etc... The article goes on ...

"Trumperbell"

That's perfect for this liar. I'll be using that in the future.

Folks it isn't about actual Treason. It is about planting a seed. Undermine the "deep state" - the bureaucracy that ensures the country continues to function no matter who is in charge, the people who know how to make things actually happen. They continue to sew the distrust and sew disdain in order to dismantle it and create their "new order" where Oligarchy reigns.

@#74 ... Folks it isn't about actual Treason. It is about planting a seed. ...

Yup.

And by planting the seed on X, Mr Musk has assured that there is plenty of fertilizer available for that seed to develop.

@#61 ... You are the only person I ever see citing it. I never see any media outlets citing it and I diversify my sources of news to make sure I don't fall into an echo chamber. ...

Mose Allison - Your Mind Is on Vacation (1962)
www.youtube.com

Lyrics excerpt...

genius.com

...
You sittin' here and yakkin' right in my face
You comin' on exactly like you own the place
You know if silence was golden
You couldn't raise a dime
Because your mind is on vacation and your mouth is workin' overtime
...

Near unlimited resources spent trying to prove a criminal conspiracy and it all failed.

But enough about Hunter's laptop.

Sounds like a foreigner making a threat against an American citizen. Time to deport him but only after we seize his assets.

@#78 ... Sounds like a foreigner making a threat against an American citizen. Time to deport him but only after we seize his assets. ...

That aspect of this scenario has crossed my mind ...

You clowns are SO desperate. It's hilarious. I don't even like Trump. But your collective obsession and constant rage volume up to 11 (out of 10) over predictions - the I've that haven't even happened - is hilarious.

I don't even like Trump. But...

Mating call of the Trump humper.

Posted by BellRinger at 2024-11-30 12:46 AM | Reply

Sure you do. At least own it.

@#80 ... It's hilarious. ...

So, your current alias has nothing to contribute besides an apparent begging for attention?

Good to know.

Sure you do. At least own it.

He doesn't like Lewzer. He just worships the ground on which he walks. It's (d)ifferent.

The only way you clowns can engage first requires assigning a false position that you can attack.

It's so lame.

@#85 ... It's so lame. ...

So... projecting, yet again?

And I will note that your current alias has not posted a real contribution to this thread since, well, a long while.

So, this "clown" has to ask, why is your current alias here?

Xymox - Imagination (1989)
www.youtube.com

Lyrics excerpt...

genius.com

...
I have come to indecision
Someone is pushing me
All the cities, subways, rivers
No direction left for me

I have lost my way home early
I don't care cause I won't stay there
All I hear is this silent whisper
Will you be here again?

[Chorus: Anka Wolbert]
Imagination takes the shadows away
Every day I've been without you
Imagination keeps the shadows away
Every day I stay without you
Too many times -- without you

...

Again and again, Ive been escaping
I've been lost in the dark I fear
Can you hear this silent whisper
Will you be here again?

...

Choose and change, you say
How can you let this run away
See the storms through your broken window
See the beauty of the falling rain, I say
Every day I've been without you
Every shadow follows me
Can't you see you left your traces
In too many faces

...

Who the hell does Musk think he is? Nobody elected his ass. He should go back to South Africa and stay out of our affairs. He's power-drunk, incredibly ill-informed and filled with spite. He's going to be a major problem.

CBOB

He (Musk) is planning to replace Vance as the #1 GOP shoo-in in 2028.

Right now he's just trying to make his bones.

He (Musk) is planning to replace Vance as the #1 GOP shoo-in in 2028.

Right now he's just trying to make his bones.

Posted by Twinpac at 2024-11-30 08:26 AM | Reply

He can't. He's not a native born citizen.

Mueller spent a year and a half spending tens of millions of dollars and failed to find a criminal conspiracy.

The investigation produced 37 indictments; seven guilty pleas or convictions; and compelling evidence that the president obstructed justice on multiple occasions. Mueller also uncovered and referred 14 criminal matters to other components of the Department of Justice.

Trump associates repeatedly lied to investigators about their contacts with Russians, and President Trump refused to answer questions about his efforts to impede federal proceedings and influence the testimony of witnesses.

Russian interference in the 2016 election was "sweeping and systemic."

Major attack avenues included a social media "information warfare" campaign that "favored" candidate Trump[2] and the hacking of Clinton campaign-related databases and release of stolen materials through Russian-created entities and Wikileaks.

Russia also targeted databases in many states related to administering elections gaining access to information for millions of registered voters.

The Mueller Report states that if the Special Counsel's Office felt they could clear the president of wrongdoing, they would have said so. Instead, the Report explicitly states that it "does not exonerate" the President[10] and explains that the Office of Special Counsel "accepted" the Department of Justice policy that a sitting President cannot be indicted.

Those are the FACTS.

More FACTS at this wbsite:

www.acslaw.org

Mueller spent a year and a half spending tens of millions of dollars and failed to find a criminal conspiracy.

Russian interference in the 2016 election was "sweeping and systemic."

Russia also targeted databases in many states related to administering elections gaining access to information for millions of registered voters.

Those are the FACTS.

More FACTS at this wbsite:

www.acslaw.org

You voted for a criminal.

Stop whining and trying to justify it.

Own it.

He's too much of a coward.

#13. You are clinging to a hoax cooked up by the Clinton campaign and pushed by Obama, and then his holdovers which was then amplified to the nth degree by our Pravda news media.

It's is beyond worn out.

#15 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-11-29 10:23 AM | Reply | Flag:

Funny how those arguing with you never want to talk about this

www.cnn.com

"Federal election regulators fined Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee earlier this month for not properly disclosing the money they spent on controversial opposition research that led to the infamous Trump-Russia dossier."

"The dossier was compiled by retired British spy Christopher Steele. It contained unverified and salacious allegations about Donald Trump, including claims that his campaign colluded with the Kremlin to win the 2016 election. Trump's campaign had numerous contacts with Russian agents, and embraced Russian help, but no one was ever formally accused of conspiring with Russia. "