Wednesday, November 06, 2024

A High Number of Gen Z Ballots get Rejected for Signature Match

Schools don't teach cursive anymore, which is causing problems for Gen Z getting their ballots counted. Debra Cleaver, the founder of Vote America and Vote.org, has been pushing to get rid of signature matching. "The fundamental problem here is that a signature is not a unique identifier," Cleaver told Business Insider.

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true. very election i go down to the election office to view my sig.
i could change it, but it just isn't ever consistent anymore, and, though only 70yo, i forget.

#1 | Posted by ichiro at 2024-11-06 04:46 PM

My signature has never been the same twice.

Recently found something I had signed in high school, and it looked completely different from my current signature.

#2 | Posted by censored at 2024-11-06 05:53 PM

A while back, I was talking with a teen neighbor at his family;s BBQ I was invited to.

As we sat and ate, I asked him what his hobbies were. One that surprised me: cursive writing.

When I talked with him about it, he told me cursive writing isn't taught in school, but it is now considered an art form.

At which point, he Dad popped in and said, ~surprising, isn't it.~

I said I was not aware that cursive had been dropped. Then I asked the teen, how do kids nowadays sign their name. His reply was, "they don't."

This was about 8-10 years ago.



#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-06 05:59 PM

Our #4 granddaughter, who's attending my alma mater on a full scholarship, is already a Junior after only two semesters (she had 46 AP credits) working on a double major, Chemistry and Math with a minor in Physics. Anyway, she doesn't 'write' anything but prints with a very small hand. We just got a post card from her which contained as much as most people would have used a full letter-sized sheet of paper for. And the printing was impeccable. And she can print even smaller as I've seen some examples. Now, having been an engineer for 49+ years, I never wrote anything in cursive either, except my signature. I started my career before we had computers and printers and you had to write your reports and stuff. Granted, we had 'secretaries' who we would type-up our more formal memos and reports, but anything else that I had to produce which became part of the permanent record was printed free-hand, and that was pretty standard in the engineering world where it was important that written material be unambiguous, not open to being misinterpreted.

Now I've never seen her signature but if it's anything like mine, it's only good for just that, a 'signature', which I've always seen as a sort of the 'mark of a craftsman. Signatures really only need to be 'recognized' (and acknowledged), rather then 'read'.

OCU

#4 | Posted by OCUser at 2024-11-06 08:18 PM

@#4 ... Now I've never seen her signature but if it's anything like mine, it's only good for just that, a 'signature', which I've always seen as a sort of the 'mark of a craftsman. Signatures really only need to be 'recognized' (and acknowledged), rather then 'read'. ...

What I ponder ....

Should schools teach (encourage?) children how to develop a "signature" for future "signing" purposes, instead of making the children learn cursive writing?


#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-06 08:43 PM

Should schools teach (encourage?) children how to develop a "signature" for future "signing" purposes, instead of making the children learn cursive writing?
#5 | Posted by LampLighter

Knew a Japanese guy who came over for college and stayed for a few years afterwards. He signed everything in Japanese.

I explained to him that his signature just looked like meaningless squiggles to those who only understood English and it would be highly unlikely that we would notice a forgery. He persisted and no harm resulted as far as I know.

#6 | Posted by censored at 2024-11-07 11:27 AM

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