Monday, January 20, 2025

Biden last minute pardons for his family

Biden, in final act in office, issues pardons to his family members, due to 'unrelenting attacks' from Trump and allies.

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LOL!!! BuT ThEy DiD NoThInG WrOnG ...

#1 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-20 12:03 PM

'unrelenting attacks' from Trump and allies.'

Obviously that never happened... in TrumpWorld, anyway. Trump never threatened revenge on anyone who dared oppose him, right?

Damn, but you people are stupid.

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-20 12:44 PM

This cements for me that I en was selling influence to enrich himself and his family.

#3 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-20 02:56 PM

I guess Lewzer will have to go after Hillary again. LOCK HER UP!!!! LOCK HER UP!!!!

LOL.

#4 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-01-20 02:59 PM

This cements for me that I en was selling influence to enrich himself and his family.

Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-20 02:56 PM | Reply

Of course it does because you're a partisan hack.

#5 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-20 02:59 PM

BullBringer thinks highly of his opinions.

No one else cares.

#6 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-20 02:59 PM

" Of course it does because you're a partisan hack.

#5 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2025-01-20 02:59 PM | FLAG: "

A partisan hack is anyone who tries to justify this. That would be YOU.

#7 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-20 03:03 PM

6

You do along with a slew of others here.

You wait with bated breath.

Every
Single
Day

#8 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-20 03:04 PM

www.nbcnews.com

Just minutes before leaving office, Joe Biden announced a set of sweeping pre-emptive pardons to members of his family, including his two brothers and his sister, after some on the right suggested the they should face prosecution.

#9 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-20 03:05 PM

#8

You're back?

What happened to splitting?

Got from your toilet to the couch already?

#10 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-20 03:09 PM

BullBringer thinks highly of his opinions.

No one else cares.

#6 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-20 02:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

No, he thinks highly of the opinions fed to him by the right wing echo chamber.

#11 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-20 03:09 PM

#11

This is true. He repeats them verbatim.

#12 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-20 03:10 PM

This cements for me that I en was selling influence to enrich himself and his family.

#3 | Posted by BellRinger

LOL you're an idiot.

As if you weren't already in the bag for believing that anyway.

Meanwhile, you continue to ignore the same cause and effect in play here as you do with the other pardons.

I'm sure you'll go back to "I don't support him bbbuuuuuuuttt..." when he starts abusing his power and doing blatantly corrupt things. Because, you know, you don't support him. /s

#13 | Posted by jpw at 2025-01-20 03:11 PM

Jeff's a reactionary parrot. Someone who will regurgitate the talking points fed to him by the right wing media and the leadership of his party. Without any critical thinking nor intellectual honesty. It's sad but thems the facts

#14 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-20 03:12 PM

A partisan hack is anyone who tries to justify this. That would be YOU.

Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-20 03:03 PM | Reply

BTW You're an idiot. One has to have a party to be a partisan hack for. I'm an independent.

OOPSIE DAISY.

#15 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-20 03:15 PM

Trump never threatened revenge on anyone who dared oppose him, right?

Laticia James ran on threatening Trump, without a crime.

Thought this was just the political way

I guess it's just Lumpers.

No one is above the law, the law is the law.
Pardons are a signal of guilt.

#16 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-20 03:34 PM

I'm an independent.
- lm

You aren't further right than I am get out of here.

#17 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-20 03:35 PM

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#13 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2025-01-20 03:11 PM | FLAG: "

Projection much?

I'm not the one defending the indefensible. Lemme guess, this is (D)ifferent. You're trying to discuss politics but your mind is on the middle truck stop stall.

#18 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-20 03:37 PM

I'm not the one defending the indefensible.

You're the one shhting blood and crying about conspiracy theories rightwing media has been pumping you with.

You're an idiot.

A truly Deplorable Trumping MAGAt.

#19 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-20 03:40 PM

Projection much?

I'm not the one defending the indefensible. Lemme guess, this is (D)ifferent. You're trying to discuss politics but your mind is on the middle truck stop stall.

Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-20 03:37 PM | Reply

Wanna know how I know I've won? The only responses are personal attacks. I own you clowns.

Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-17 03:01 PM | Reply

By your own criteria. He owns you. Just sayin

#20 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-20 03:41 PM

BullBringer sold out to the Republican Party decades ago.

He's a proud party line voter.

They own him.

#21 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-20 03:42 PM

Projection much?

I've already explicitly corrected you.

And yet you still can't get it right.

BTW no, it's not projection because that's your normal behavior.

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2025-01-20 03:42 PM

This is the POS you support, ballwasher.

Don't worry, though, no one thinks you're garbage people, though. Not a single one...

www.nbcchicago.com

#23 | Posted by jpw at 2025-01-20 03:45 PM

When Biden pardoned his son I said on this site that if he went on to pardon his brother James it would pretty much cement that he was influence peddling given all of the smoke that has been billowing. As of yesterday I was happy to be wrong about this but then in the waning minutes Biden proved me right.

#24 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-20 03:45 PM

" By your own criteria. He owns you. Just sayin

#20 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2025-01-20 03:41 PM | FLAG: "

When the ONLY response is a personal attack - sure. But the personal attacks I'm levying are not only in-kind but are tacked onto an actual argument.

#25 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-20 03:47 PM

So funny... had JeffyBelle had the balls to stand up to Trump so that Trump threatened him and or his family... he would be begging for a Pardon.

#26 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-20 03:47 PM

When Biden pardoned his son I said ...

Stopped reading there.

Who fkkking gives a shit what a partisan hack like you has to say about what Biden does.

#27 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-20 03:47 PM

" This is the POS you support, ballwasher.

Don't worry, though, no one thinks you're garbage people, though. Not a single one...
www.nbcchicago.com

#23 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2025-01-20 03:45 PM | FLAG: "

But Trump is all you got ballsucker.

#28 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-20 03:48 PM

When the ONLY response is a personal attack - sure.

Considering all you're doing is vomiting up propaganda, conspiracies and opinions.

Mocking you is the only reasonable response.

Not even Gracie was dumb enough to comment on this thread, because she knew she only posted it to troll.

What she didn't expect was to catch you.

#29 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-20 03:49 PM

Trump's cabinet might as well engage in criminal acts since blanket pardons are the new norm.

Nice work, idiots.

#30 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-20 03:50 PM

"Why doesn't anyone entertain my speculations!"
-BullBringer

#31 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-20 03:51 PM

Clownshart,

You are a very dumb man. The end.

#32 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-20 03:51 PM

Trump's cabinet might as well engage in criminal acts

You believe they haven't already?

#33 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-20 03:52 PM

strawbringer was supposed to wait until teumps cabinet broke the law to defend them.

i guess he prematurely shot hus wad again.

#34 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-20 03:53 PM

"QAnon said so! It must Be True!"
-BullBringer

#35 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-20 03:53 PM

Trump's cabinet might as well engage in criminal acts

This is pathetic even for a partisan hack like strawbringer.

Don't forget to swallow, junior.

#36 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-20 03:55 PM

I'm not the one defending the indefensible.

Trump's cabinet might as well engage in criminal acts

LMAO

#37 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-20 03:57 PM

Alexandrite

You are missing my point. I do not want Trump's cabinet engaging in criminal acts. But if they do Biden has set the precedent for a get out of jail free card.

#38 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-20 04:02 PM

But Trump is all you got ballsucker.

#28 | Posted by BellRinger

What does this mean, exactly?

#39 | Posted by jpw at 2025-01-20 04:09 PM

I do not want Trump's cabinet engaging in criminal acts. But if they do Biden has set the precedent for a get out of jail free card.

#38 | Posted by BellRinger

LOL

Just LOL.

You poor dumb fool.

#40 | Posted by jpw at 2025-01-20 04:10 PM

You are missing my point. I do not want Trump's cabinet engaging in criminal acts. But if they do Biden has set the precedent for a get out of jail free card.

#38 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-20 04:02 PM | Reply

Yet you'll excuse Trump's criminal acts. Hell you give blanket cover for them. Ironic dontcha think???

#41 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-20 04:32 PM

SO cute (and desperate) Jeffy's laughable claims that Trump needs any pretext to grant Pardons... or do anything else he wants.

But his credibility was shot a long time ago around here.

#42 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-20 04:52 PM

" What does this mean, exactly?

#39 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2025-01-20 04:09 PM | FLAG: "

I'll retype it.

"But Trump" is all you've got.

#43 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-20 04:55 PM

SO cute that Corky deflects to Trump and of course is giddy about these unprecedented blanket pardons.

It's the new norm now. No more of "nobody is above the law". These pardons killed that, Nice work, Democrats.

#44 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-20 04:56 PM

- deflects to Trump

People who have obfuscated for years for Trump have no standing to criticize anything any other Pres might do or have done.

No one trumps a lying criminal rapist traitor... once you've spent so much time defending him, your credibility is nil, and your comparisons to other Presidents is void. Like your brain.

#45 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-20 05:00 PM

And pretending Trump cares whether there are precedents or not when it comes to Pardons... or anything else?

AHHAHAAAA! Did I mentions your non-existent credibility?

#46 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-20 05:02 PM

Yet you'll excuse Trump's criminal acts.
- LM

Because it was Targeted prosecution.

More than half of America knows it was BS.

Much like hunters prosecution.

#47 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-20 05:04 PM

I'll retype it.

"But Trump" is all you've got.

#43 | Posted by BellRinger

Gee. It couldn't possibly be because we're discussing that POS being POTUS again, could it?

#48 | Posted by jpw at 2025-01-20 05:14 PM

- it was Targeted prosecution.

Obviously the literally dozens of hand-picked Trump Aides that testified under Oath against him after witnessing his crimes should be imprisoned by Trump, right?

Or perhaps you 'think' they were all Dem Crisis Actors?

#49 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-20 05:16 PM

" And pretending Trump cares whether there are precedents or not when it comes to Pardons... or anything else?"

Yet he didn't issue any blanketvpardons at the end of his first term and a number of his political allies ended up being prosecuted.

" Gee. It couldn't possibly be because we're discussing that POS being POTUS again, could it?

#48 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2025-01-20 05:14 PM | REPLY"

Which is a deflection from these corrupt pardons.

For Corky it's (D)ifferent when Dems do it.

#50 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-20 05:20 PM

#50 | Posted by BellRinger

Elon Musk gave a fascist salute today.

MAGA is coming home.

#51 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-20 05:20 PM

My hope is that all enemies of Donald, whether real or those he imagines, walk free and live long and prosper.

#52 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-20 05:23 PM

these corrupt pardons.

Impeach him then. Oh wait... he's immune.

#53 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-01-20 05:27 PM

Which is a deflection from these corrupt pardons.

For Corky it's (D)ifferent when Dems do it.

#50 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-20 05:20 PM | Reply

The Garland ruling makes clear. Presidential pardons aren't corrupt. Deal with it or not. It's up to you.

#54 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-20 05:35 PM

-For Corky it's (D)ifferent when Dems do it.

Corky convinced himself when Bill Gates gave $25 million to Harris he wasn't an oligarch or even a fascist while at the same time any billionaire who gave money to Trump is both an oligarch and a fascist.

#55 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-20 05:41 PM

" Presidential pardons aren't corrupt. Deal with it or not. It's up to you.

#54 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2025-01-20 05:35 PM | FLAG: "

Pardons can absolutely be corrupt. But they aren't unconstitutional.

#56 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-20 06:12 PM

"Pardons can absolutely be corrupt."

What about grifting with e-coins? Corrupt?

Or okay because of (R)easons?

#57 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-20 06:24 PM

Create a thread about ecoins. Also, I don't understand how crypto currency, Bitcoin even works. So, it's difficult for me to comment on that.

#58 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-20 06:37 PM

#55

Bev can't tell $25 million from $200 million? Or see the DOGE thugs knocking on the doors of Civil Servants and asking them if they support Trump?

He still doesn't know who Leo Leonard is, or Peter Theil?

Well, that's just bigly Sad.

I knew jeffy is party over country, but I at least thought you were different when it came to direct, obvious Fascism... this Party of Oligarchs.

#59 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-20 06:46 PM

Eberly is a white guy, living in middle America, he's had a steady job, invested his money, and is pretty convinced, short of catastrophe, he and his family will be fine.

I'm sure he's right.

Which is why regardless of what Trump and Republicans do to this nation, it's not really going to affect him.

Are the goals of Bill Gates and Elon Musk the same?

I doubt it.

But it's all the same to someone who doesn't have any skin in the game.

#60 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-20 07:06 PM

-Bev can't tell $25 million from $200 million?

yes, I can do the math.

but you can't understand that democrats don't actually conduct a purity exam when they cash those checks.

you think they do.

they don't

billionaires buying democrats are doing the same thing when they are buying republicans

deep down you just can't accept it.

you're a child.

you can deflect all you want with Musk and Thiel.....I fully understand what those guys are and what they're buying.

you're the naive one here.

#61 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-20 07:34 PM

Corky,

You don't even know what fascism is.

Censorship. Persecuting and frivolously prosecuting citizens for their political beliefs. Cronyism.

All on full display the past 4 years.

#62 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-20 07:36 PM

-Eberly is a white guy, living in middle America, he's had a steady job, invested his money, and is pretty convinced, short of catastrophe, he and his family will be fine.

which describes most everyone here.

they're just throwing a pity party for not getting their way.

Twoothy is the best example.

no pain
no risk
no consequences

just not getting your way

constantly demanding to get your way and not getting it. never responsible for anything. responsibility is always the other guy's problem.

#63 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-20 07:36 PM

Biden hat s oligarchs so much he gave one the coveted medal of freedom. But that's (D)ifferent.

#64 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-20 07:38 PM

Pretty sure TH has stated he has Trans friends (or family).

So, in some ways, the decisions being made by politicians for all Americans, does affect him.

#65 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-20 07:42 PM

65

Pretty sure I don't believe any thing like that from him.

People need victim status so much here they'll say anything.

Laura can tell us everything being done to her.

Don't need twoothy screaming cunt and scum! With his bullshit made up victim status.

#66 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-20 07:50 PM

Laura?

Everyone knows she's the reason Hillary lost Kansas.

#JillStein2026!

#67 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-20 07:56 PM

Also, I don't understand how crypto currency, Bitcoin even works. So, it's difficult for me to comment on that.

#58 | Posted by BellRinger a

Here's how it works (essentially)

Shitler says he is selling magical fairy dust.

The magical fairy dust can only be bought by real money converted to magical fairy dust in some non-governmentally accessible computer programs (called blockchain) that are alleged to be secure.

Since there is no governmental oversight, those blockchains are created by companies.

You see where we are going here?

So, Shitler's fairy dust sells like a stock on the blockchain.

So, let's use a real-life example, immediately after Shitler announced he was selling magical fairy dust, some guy bought some magical fairy dust for like a million dollars (seems like he had some knowledge, let's call it insider knowledge) of the pending sale.

Said guy sells that coin 2 days later to some other guy for 1.5 million dollars.

Said guy profits $500,000 for 2 days work.

See what is happening yet?

So shitler and his kids and his wife control like 85% of the magical fairy dust, so they put magical fairy dust on the "market" and control the "market"

You trust your money to this guy?

Some common slob buys some magical fairy dust when the price is high thinking Shitler will keep magical fairy dust flying sky high.

Common slob can't sell cause he is a sucker for those guys with insider knowledge-it's happening already.

Also, there are big buyers of magical fairy dust in Saudi Arabia and Quatar and UAE and China who just love them some shitler magical fairy dust who won't expect ANYTHING in return for his magical fairy dust.

If you didn't get it yet, magical fairy dust is actually, in reality, nothing, nothing at all, bubkis, nada,...

Spiro Agnew was forced out of the VP over a $10,000 gift.

The corruption is mind blowing.

#68 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-20 08:56 PM

I am going to put 2 things together here:

Also, I don't understand how crypto currency, Bitcoin even works. So, it's difficult for me to comment on that.

#58 | Posted by BellRinger a

AND

Corky,

You don't even know what fascism is.

Censorship. Persecuting and frivolously prosecuting citizens for their political beliefs. Cronyism.

All on full display the past 4 years.

#62 | Posted by BellRinger

The level of stupidity on display here should not be understated.

Shitler just this past Friday, issued a bitcoin, which is cronyism to the nth degree. The scam is literally built to have people pay Shitler anonymously.

His "inauguration" is a slush fund of an unprecedented (and untraceable) amount

McFacebook literally paid Shitler a million dollars to get a seat on the dais during shitler's swearing in.

Shitler is literally suing a pollster over a negative poll

ABC literally paid $15 million dollars over a frivolous lawsuit.

Shitler forced Lockheed Martin to get rid of a Snr VP over her political speech.

This is just a drop in the bucket of censorship, targeting and cronyism.

Yet Jeff thinks an independent SC going after Shitler for his obvious crimes is somehow the problem.

Our nation is doomed.

#69 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-20 09:07 PM

Twoothy is the best example.

no pain
no risk
no consequences

just not getting your way

constantly demanding to get your way and not getting it. never responsible for anything. responsibility is always the other guy's problem.

#63 | Posted by eberly

Fuck you cunt.

Demanding I get my way? Not electing a rapist, conman, insurrectionist, felon is my way?

You find my distaste at this result as me throwing a temper tantrum for not getting my way.

You're either world's biggest idiot or devoid of even the most basic concept of ethics.

This fucking monster that took the office today is going to destroy this nation I love. He has already started, you just refuse to see it. Cause you're an idiot.

Did you know states are filing lawsuits to outlaw Mifepristone? Did you know that the SC has signaled that if the right plaintiffs come before them, they will outlaw Mifepristone?

But abortion is safe nationwide.

Americans are morally bankrupt and just plain stupid and will suffer greatly at what the next few years will unleash.

But, hey, I hold sacred the liberal ideals of democracy, freedom, rights. Other's may think differently

#70 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-20 09:14 PM

"You find my distaste at this result as me throwing a temper tantrum for not getting my way."

Yes, and nothing more

Should I act the same way?

Because I didn't get my way?

Of course not. Nobody expects me to react like that.

You? Yeah ... ..nobody is surprised you're a 3 year old.

Nothing more to it.

#71 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-20 09:19 PM

"But, hey, I hold sacred the liberal ideals of democracy, freedom, rights."

By crying about the results of a fair election?

That's holding sacred the liberal ideas of democracy?

You don't find that ironic?

#72 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-20 09:22 PM

"most basic concept of ethics."

I'll bet you're dying to out my real identity just like you did to Jeff.

Ethics. Yeah ... .sure.

#73 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-20 09:23 PM

Just a few actions that shitler took today

Took us out of the Paris Climate Accord-cause Climate Change isn't real, right?
Took us out of the World Health Organization-cause AIDS, malaria, tuberculosis aren't real, right?
Pardoned 1,500 insurrectionists, even those ON TAPE assaulting police-even Magats didn't want that
Ordered TikTok back online-if you can't see how this benefits the Chinese Communist Party you aren't too bright.
Overturned the Title IX protections for gender identity and sexual orientation-the obvious and blatant hate inspired action will end up harming children.
Declared an emergency at the southern border-can any explain to me the emergency there? Like the actual harm that is actively going on there? Dictators love them their emergencies though.
Changed the definition of birthright citizenship-what a vile despicable, unlawful order this is. He is too stupid to understand the real actual implications of this action. Like the children of those birthright citizens, are they no longer citizens?
Suspended foreign assistance for 90 days... and Americans wonder why China's influence is spreading around the globe. China is building ports in Central and South America, we are cutting aid.
Declared an "energy emergency"-must have been a surprise to the oil companies-while simultaneously stopping leases to wind farms.... an energy emergency and cutting off an energy supply
Insults Indigenous Americans by renaming Mt Denali.

Fuck this fucking fascist

#74 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-20 09:29 PM

Fuck you eberly, America elected a rapist, felon, conman, thief, insurrectionist.

That election is a direct attack on my loved ones.

I hold those who elected him in nothing but utter contempt.

They are not good people and deserve nothing but spite thrown their way.

You can act like nothing has changed, that this is just another switch in the parties in power.

I am smarter than you and have far more integrity than you.

Ex. I saw RvW going away when McConnell stole the SC seat.

You should listen to me because I am right FAR more often than I am wrong.

I am telling you, in no uncertain terms, that the regressive revolution is underway, the pieces are in place, the guard rails are gone. Our country will be unrecognizable before you know it

We live in the United States of New America.

But you ignore the facts I offer, you ignore the arguments I make, you lie that jeff didn't post his information right here on the DR.

Cause that is all you have.

Back to the killfile with you loser

#75 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-20 09:37 PM

"America elected a rapist, felon, conman, thief, insurrectionist."

Yeah, I think I saw that on the news.

"That election is a direct attack on my loved ones."

Why? How?

Are my loved ones in danger?

How so?

"I am smarter than you and have far more integrity than you."

No one will ever say you weren't funny, twoothy.

You are one fucked up dipshit who has no chance

#76 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-20 09:44 PM

Twoothy,

Policies you disfavor does not make them fascist by default.

Also, you really should drop the rapist thing given you voted for Clinton twice and fully supported him. Probably supported Ted Kennedy too.

#77 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-20 09:45 PM

"you lie that jeff didn't post his information right here on the DR."

Go fukk yourself you cocksucking loser.

You tried to out his identity. Period.

And why?

Cause he absolutely fukkin owns you.

And still does.

#78 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-20 09:47 PM

"I am telling you, in no uncertain terms, that the regressive revolution is underway, the pieces are in place, the guard rails are gone. Our country will be unrecognizable before you know it"

I don't have a crystal ball and I'm not predicting anything.

I didn't want the guy as president either.

You're just trying to defend your 3 year old spoiled brat behavior.

#79 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-20 09:49 PM

JeffyBelle knows what Johnny Turley wants him to know, and that's it.

And we have never ever seen the People's policies For Sale in the WH to the highest billionaire bidders so they can mark it up and sell it to you as is available as of today.

Again, thanks Trumpism!

#80 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-20 10:11 PM

You don't even know what fascism is.

Censorship. Persecuting and frivolously prosecuting citizens for their political beliefs. Cronyism.

All on full display the past 4 years.

#62 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-20 07:36 PM |

You lie like a rug and you know it too Jeff.

#81 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-20 10:30 PM

All of those things happened, Laura Mohr.

Cope.

#82 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-20 10:37 PM

" JeffyBelle knows what Johnny Turley wants him to know, and that's it. "

What does Turkey have to do with this thread.

I know why he's persona non grata on the left. It was expected of him to alter his legal analyses depending on the letter after the name.

He didn't do that and that is an unforgivable sin.

#83 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-20 10:39 PM

This is what Hilary Clinton's pollster has to say about this:

Mark Penn
@Mark_Penn

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The last straw

Last minute pardons for Biden's political accomplices were the plan all along. The pardons for drug dealers and commutations for murderers were just cover for the main act of these pardons and his son " all done after elections have passed.

The only administration to try to jail political opponents was not Trump's but Biden's, and it was the voters who rejected it with their votes.

There were legitimate questions on whether Fauci lied about his funding of gain of function research, whether Miley broke the chain of command and had unauthorized communications with the Chinese and whether the Jan 6th committee coached witnesses. They may have all been right and truthful but there were questions, and they will all go unresolved now.

But Biden was elected lying to the public about his son's business (which was eventually uncovered), sought to win reelection hiding his infirmities, (which was also eventually uncovered), and genuinely abused his office in the closing days of his presidency as his low ratings sink even lower.

#84 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-20 10:49 PM

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Opposition to Marxism. Modern fascists try to use socialism as a boogeyman to scare people. This is particularly true in the US.
Opposition to (parliamentary) democracy. You will see this in attempts to make it difficult for people to vote, often under the guise of "preventing voting fraud" even when they cannot produce evidence of fraud.
Opposition to political and cultural liberalism. Fascists will often claim that liberalism undermines traditional values and morality.
Totalitarian ambitions. Fascists want to control all political power and will tell you that only they can set things right.
Conservative economic programs. Historically, very few fascist movements were left or left-centrist, and when they were they were small and short-lived.
Corporatism. Historically the ultimate aim was to destroy labor movements and suppress political dissent. A favorite tool of modern-day fascists is deregulation that results in profits to businesses at the expense of consumers.
Imperialism. Nuff said.
Military values. Historically fascists favoured military values such as courage, unquestioning obedience to authority, discipline, and physical strength. They also adapted the outward trappings of military organizations, such as paramilitary uniforms and Roman salutes. We see this today in self-styled "militias."
Volksgemeinschaft. A German word referring to a racially unified and hierarchically organized group in which the interests of individuals are strictly subordinate to those of the nation. They literally tell you that they want to put you under their control, and chances are very good that you won't be invited to the ruling committee.
Leadership principle. The belief that the party and the state should have a single leader with absolute power. Beware claims along the lines of "We need a strong leader with the common sense to fix things."
The "new man." Fascists aimed to transform the ordinary man into the "new man," a "virile" being who would put decadent bourgeoisie, cerebral elites, and "feminine" liberals to shame.
Struggle against decadence. Fascists will define a group of people that are misleading you, that are stealing from you, that are destroying your future. Modern targets are educated "elites" that earn their living through well-paid white collar work rather than "honest" blue collar work that is less well paid.
Extreme nationalism. Fascist ideologues taught that national identity was the foundation of individual identity and should not be corrupted by foreign influences, especially if they were left-wing. Interestingly, modern-day fascist movements are often funded by rich foreigners with the goal to destabilize other countries that they wish to control.
Anti-urbanism. The "elites" live in cities rather than in suburban settings where everyday man lives.
Sexism and misogyny. Fascist movements tend to have strategies around controlling women's bodies, ideas that women must subjugate themselves to their husbands, and that the primary role of women is to have and care for babies.

#85 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-20 10:49 PM

Then there is this:

" I think we're going to have a very hard time critiquing Donald Trump's improper use of the pardon power because of President Biden pardoning his own family members," Senator Tim Kaine (D., Va.) told reporters on Monday, adding that he was "very disappointed" by the move"

#86 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-20 11:06 PM

#85 Almost all of those 15 traits of fascism pertains to Trump and the MAGA movement. They don't pertain to Abide no matter how much the mouth breathers want it to be so.

#87 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-20 11:22 PM

Pardon me:

Joshua Holland
@joshuaholland.bsky.social
Mark my words: There will be less outraged coverage, over a shorter period of time, of Trump pardoning violent militia members who committed sedition and RW thugs who beat up cops than there was of Biden pardoning a son who was a top target of the right and whose conviction was highly irregular.

And Dems won't make a third as much noise over this outrageous assault on the rule of law as Republicans did with Hunter's pardon.

Also, quite a few Dems amplified and legitimated the GOP's tantrum over Biden's pardon. Won't see much of that if any from Republicans.

I'm sure many of them are disgusted"that mob wanted their blood"but it's too dangerous for Republicans to speak out about Trump. You gotta worry about his deranged, heavily-armed thugs stalking you, the RW media trashing you and Elon funding a primary challenger.

#88 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-01-20 11:23 PM

Pertains to Biden.

#89 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-20 11:24 PM

I think we're going to have a very hard time critiquing Donald Trump's improper use of the pardon power

Undoubtedly.

You can't criticize Donald Trump for anything.

It's part of belonging to a cult.

#90 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-20 11:30 PM

#85 | Posted by LauraMohr

Good list. Bears repeating:

Opposition to Marxism. Modern fascists try to use socialism as a boogeyman to scare people. This is particularly true in the US.

Opposition to (parliamentary) democracy. You will see this in attempts to make it difficult for people to vote, often under the guise of "preventing voting fraud" even when they cannot produce evidence of fraud.

Opposition to political and cultural liberalism. Fascists will often claim that liberalism undermines traditional values and morality.

Totalitarian ambitions. Fascists want to control all political power and will tell you that only they can set things right.

Conservative economic programs. Historically, very few fascist movements were left or left-centrist, and when they were they were small and short-lived.

Corporatism. Historically the ultimate aim was to destroy labor movements and suppress political dissent. A favorite tool of modern-day fascists is deregulation that results in profits to businesses at the expense of consumers.

Imperialism. Nuff said.

Military values. Historically fascists favoured military values such as courage, unquestioning obedience to authority, discipline, and physical strength. They also adapted the outward trappings of military organizations, such as paramilitary uniforms and Roman salutes. We see this today in self-styled "militias."

Volksgemeinschaft. A German word referring to a racially unified and hierarchically organized group in which the interests of individuals are strictly subordinate to those of the nation. They literally tell you that they want to put you under their control, and chances are very good that you won't be invited to the ruling committee.

Leadership principle. The belief that the party and the state should have a single leader with absolute power. Beware claims along the lines of "We need a strong leader with the common sense to fix things."

The "new man." Fascists aimed to transform the ordinary man into the "new man," a "virile" being who would put decadent bourgeoisie, cerebral elites, and "feminine" liberals to shame.

Struggle against decadence. Fascists will define a group of people that are misleading you, that are stealing from you, that are destroying your future. Modern targets are educated "elites" that earn their living through well-paid white collar work rather than "honest" blue collar work that is less well paid.

Extreme nationalism. Fascist ideologues taught that national identity was the foundation of individual identity and should not be corrupted by foreign influences, especially if they were left-wing. Interestingly, modern-day fascist movements are often funded by rich foreigners with the goal to destabilize other countries that they wish to control.

Anti-urbanism. The "elites" live in cities rather than in suburban settings where everyday man lives.

Sexism and misogyny. Fascist movements tend to have strategies around controlling women's bodies, ideas that women must subjugate themselves to their husbands, and that the primary role of women is to have and care for babies.

#91 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-01-20 11:34 PM

We told you the Bidens were a crime family. Joe agreed.

#92 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-01-21 02:38 AM

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