"Joe Biden and Hunter Biden did effectively destroy any chance of Joe Biden winning an election."

What did Joe Biden do? Absolutely nothing. For all the talk you've made about Russian propaganda, it's ironic you're probably repeating it right now.

"STudent debt can't be discharged in bankruptcy thanks to Joe Biden. F Joe Biden."

Not true.

"Are you serious?"

Why wouldn't he be? There are lots of things you can try abroad which aren't accessible at home because of the stigma associated with them, whether it's dog or horse meat or pig brains or snails or grasshoppers.

"maybe he will challenge Trump to a push up contest during a debate LOL"

Maybe, but hopefully he and PR team are astute enough to move on to another bring-it-on type catch phrase long before then. Maybe by that point he'll just whip it out on stage and say "okay, let's compare."

"Now - I am completely serious when I say this"

You can be sure when somebody says this, nothing they say is serious.

"Clinton WAS guilty, that isn't the issue. The issue was whether or not the US Constitution's most severe presidential sanction was intended to be used for a President guilty of lying about an extramarital affair(s) and trying to cover up its details."

He abused his office and committed a serious crime in trying to cover it up. There's no reason to think just because the underlying thing being covered up was an extramarital affair would exempt him from that.

"And we can't forget the only reason Clinton was put into the position of committing perjury was the fact that an entirely unrelated investigation that had nothing to do with his personal conduct initially, caught wind of it and exposed it, creating the conditions for his crime."

Yep. It shouldn't have mattered then, just like the circumstances leading up to the conditions for Trump's crime shouldn't matter now.

"I can also see McConnell scheduling all sorts of hearings regarding this and just like in the House the minority will have little say in how this is carried out - what's good for the goose and all that. McConnell will attempt to paint a picture on a political canvas as a back drop for the final phase of putting Trump on trial. With the IG report demonstrating serial abuses obtaining FISA warrants to surveil Carter Page coupled with Durham's statement yesterday that the investigation itself wasn't adequately predicated, McConnell will create a narrative of the so-called deep state engaging in all sorts of shenanigans to try and undo the 2016 election results by any means necessary. With that groundwork laid down, the Senate will subpoena Schiff, his aides and the whistleblower and McConnell will try to create a narrative that this whole thing was cooked up by a "deep state" operative colluding with the Democratic Party to try and remove Trump. Next up, McConnell will put Joe and Hunter Biden on trial and will attempt to convince the public that their arrangement with Burisma was corrupt thus legitimizing Trump's request for an investigation. Lastly, McConnell will hypocritically (the Senate hearings will be conducted in a 1-sided manner) attack the House hearings for their one-sidedness and he'll certainly attack (and I think this will resonate with the public) Schiff's publishing of phone records of Guilliani, Nunes, Solomon and others. Whether or not the GOP is more persuasive with the public than the Democrats have been remains to be seen. "

With Chief Justice Roberts presiding over the trial, how much of that do you think he'll be able to get away with? Especially stuff that isn't directly related to the charges Trump will likely be impeached on?

Snowden was right, even if the way he revealed it was wrong. The process for how people are surveilled is a farce. This practice of warrants being improperly obtained isn't unique to the FBI, the Obama administration or even the federal government.

None of this exonerates Trump of anything, just like it wouldn't exonerate Clinton if she had been elected and was the one being impeached now.

"At least they waited until he got elected, eh?:
Republicans Are Already Talking About Impeaching Clinton"

I remember opponents of both Trump and Clinton talking about eventually impeaching them before the election. And I knew that either one of them would have been dumb enough to go on to commit impeachable offenses during their term.

"No he doesn't, he has done nothing wrong."

Trump should have known better than to use the Office to go after a political opponent.

"Hunter was hired by Burisma in order to purchase his father."

At most, it shows a private foreign company thought they could get special favors from a US politician by hiring one of his relatives. In many cases, that's probably true, but unless you can show Joe Biden actually gave them special favors then you've got nothing here. His participation in calling for a prosecutor to be removed doesn't even meet the threshold of reasonable evidence, because the international community and the IMF were already calling for that prosecutor to be removed for the exact opposite reason. Joe Biden would have to be some kind of Jedi mastermind to orchestrate that type of conspiracy. Are you suggesting that's what he is?

"Eh, at least they tried. It was a hopeless endeavor."

I will say Trump deserves credit for that. I would have said the same about Obama or any other presidents.

"3) The FISA warrants in question have nothing to do with what Trump is being impeached for today"

Thank you. This answers one of the questions I raised in #215.

Obviously the answer is to attack Iran.

So you're not actually accusing him, it's just innuendo and you're obviously trolling. Got it.

I'm still wondering what the relevance of all this is. Who specifically does this affect who's been prosecuted in court based on the evidence collected by the specific warrants in question?

Also, how does U.S. vs Leon factor into this?

Is the implication that this is in any way related to the impeachment hearings?

"It really boils down to this: Were the FISA warrants to surveil Carter Page properly obtained? Based upon what I've read, they absolutely were not properly obtained."

Isn't this basically SOP of how surveillance works in the US that Snowden blew the whistle on? Yes, there should definitely be consequences for those who got caught playing fast and loose with the rules, regardless of which agency they work for or which administration it occurs under.

If you go to Mexico, or any other developing country, I would definitely recommend avoiding ice.

"We have never had a situation where a president used his office to enrich his perpetually screw-up cokehead kid by directing US policy in their favor."

I haven't heard anybody claim Vice President Biden had anything to do personally with his son getting that job or any of his other activities. Are you making that claim now?

"Get out then."

Pull your head out of your ass first, then I'll move out of your head.

Hunter is not running for President. But go ahead and keep attacking the candidate's family. How well has this tactic worked every time in the past it's been used against members of either party?

Nobody except partisans cared about Roger Clinton.
Nobody except partisans cared about Laura Bush.
Nobody except partisans are going to care about Hunter Biden.

This is what the Darwin awards were created for. Seriously, going in the crater of a volcano that erupted less than 20 years ago is almost like playing Russian roulette.

#11, as soon as you pull the Swastika out of your ass.