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#17 | Posted by Duckman at 2026-01-09 10:55 AM
Trump knows that Denmark will let the US do any "strategic" thing in Greenland that he wants. But Trump wants to join the above club so he can be a "great President".
Yes, he wants to be "consequential" and "permanent" in history. That's why hunt for Nobel and rebuilding of White House (and DC) as the buildings/structures will have Trump name attached to them. While EOs / "policies" can be rolled back, the last NSS is trying to make them fairly "permanent" and destroy as much of "new" world order (much as he did to Atlantic City) where the US was "top dog" as possible, which is dreams come true for Putin (and Xi). **
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#33 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-01-10 03:14 PM
But, isn't Greenland part of NATO, so aren't we already obligated to protect Greenland from a China or Russia attack?
More than that - we have specific defense agreement with Denmark, just as there was 1994 "Budapest Memorandum" about Ukraine's security:
avalon.law.yale.edu - Avalon Project - Defense of Greenland: Agreement Between the United States and the Kingdom of Denmark, April 27, 1951
en.wikipedia.org - Proposals for US acquisition of Greenland
So all the talk about needing to "own" Greenland so "Russia and China won't be our neighbors" is a pretext for MAGA birdbrains. Same as Canada being 51st state and fentanyl coming to US from Venezuela or... "Nazis in Ukraine"
He understands ownership, not alliances... though neither worked out well in his private businesses - hence, "Everything Trump touches turns to s**t and dies."
Here is good analysis:
www.theatlantic.com - The Hole in Trump's Rationale for Acquiring Greenland - 2026-01-09
|------- ... A Cold War era agreement allows Washington broad authority to conduct military operations on Greenland. The agreement, signed by Denmark and the United States in 1951, allows the U.S. to "construct, install, maintain, and operate" bases across the island, station personnel, and set the terms of "landings, takeoffs, anchorages, moorings, movements, and operation of ships, aircraft, and water-borne craft." Pituffik is the only current U.S. base. ...
The 2021 NDA called for the creation of the Arctic and Global Resilience Policy Office at the Pentagon, which was set up in 2022. ...
Around the time of the government shutdown last fall, the office effectively ceased to exist. ...
Trump [named] Jeff Landry as special envoy to Greenland. Trump justified the appointment by recalling the Louisiana Purchase - the acquisition from the French of territory including land from 15 current states and two Canadian provinces, in 1803 ...
** Trump's repeated insistence on obtaining Greenland has prompted a furious reaction from European governments. In the long run, that may leave Washington less able to counter Russian and Chinese maneuvering in the Arctic - if that was indeed Trump's aim in the first place. The president recently [said] that Greenland is "surrounded by Russian and Chinese ships" (a claim described as unsupported by evidence), but the administration's National Security Strategy, issued at the end of last year, seemed to shy from competition with U.S. adversaries... The document envisioned "strategic stability with Russia" and called for a "genuinely mutually advantageous economic relationship with Beijing." It made no mention of the Arctic. -------|
There is a reason why mercantilism failed 300 years ago.
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So, same as what's happening in the U.S.