No bill

I asked you a simple question

Do you believe trans people have an inalienable right to the healthcare they choose?

You cannot or will not admit the truth let alone condemn it.

You give some long winded nonsense

"My point was that, aside from those specific issues,..."

LOLOLOLO

Yeah, just the most important healthcare issues a trans person faces, other than that all is equal.

There is a great deal that should be discussed before people decide to make serious, irreversible changes to their bodies. Is that really what they need, and are they making that decision free from political or social influence from others?

IT IS NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS. IT IS INCREDIBLY ARROGANT TO ASSUME THAT THOSE DECISIONS AREN'T BEING MADE BY INFORMED PEOPLE

Again, the hubris of religious people.

JFC you act like transitioning is done on a whim. When in reality it is part of LONG process involving multiple healthcare professionals.

Ignorant arrogant people like you refuse to educate yourself on the reality and blindly, uncaringly harm countless people with your hateful bigoted response.

Things Bill won't condemn

1. Trans people being denied healthcare that cis people receive
2. The infliction of religious beliefs regarding abortion on to people who do not hole the same belief structure
3. President Piggy

"I wasn't aware that was an issue."
If you're going to take my response out of context and disregard the rest of the post, we're done here.

#44 | Posted by BillJohnson

I disregarded NOTHING

Here is what YOU wrote

"Do you believe trans people have an inalienable right to the healthcare they choose?"

I wasn't aware that was an issue.

Your claim is that you weren't aware access to healthcare was an issue?

You expect us to believe that? That has been the center of the debate for a decade.

Truth,
"Do you believe in a woman's inalienable right to choose?"
There are parameters regardless of how you look at it.
Even where abortion is legal, how far along the pregnancy is can determine whether and under what circumstances it is permitted.
The issue of abortion is now regulated primarily at the state level.
So even abortion isn't simply an unlimited "right to choose" without boundaries.

#42 | Posted by BillJohnson

God you're dumb

So even abortion isn't simply an unlimited "right to choose" without boundaries.

Yes, because religious nuts decided it wasn't a right.

And again, you fail to admit or understand that despite all of the assurances these religious nutjobs are pushing to impose their vile beliefs on non-shithole states

I do wish you would educate yourself before plowing into a debate that you can't keep up with.

Restrictions on transgender adults in the United States focus primarily on public healthcare coverage limitations, federal and state identification document changes, and restrictions on public accommodations or military service.

While total bans on medical care typically apply to minors, policies impacting adults vary widely by state and federal guidelines.

Healthcare and Insurance Restrictions

Medicaid and State Plans: Several states bar Medicaid or state employee health plans from covering transition-related medical treatments for adults

Federal Guidelines: Federal policy shifts have sought to exclude gender-affirming care from being classified as an essential health benefit under specific public programs.

Insurance Mandates vs. Refusals: While some states mandate insurance coverage for medically necessary transition care, a few states explicitly permit insurers to refuse coverage

Again, you are wholly ignorant of the basic facts

And again, again, a good person would recognize their deficiency and err on the side of kindness

You choose otherwise.

I wasn't aware that was an issue.

Are you lying? I think the consensus would be yes

I wasn't aware that was an issue.
Aside from minors, which is a separate issue in itself, are trans adults being denied the same basic healthcare available to everyone else?
And if you're talking specifically about transition-related procedures or drugs, that's a different question from whether someone is being denied general healthcare.
No one has an unlimited right to whatever healthcare they want or expect. Medical treatment is always subject to doctors, medical standards, insurance coverage, prescription laws, and other regulations.
So what exactly is the healthcare you're saying trans adults are being denied?
#38 | Posted by BillJohnson

You do not understand basic facts

A trans youth cannot receive the same exact medical care as a cis youth.

That is a trans person being denied healthcare

You cannot and will not admit that fact, let alone condemn it.

Oh and look how you switch the topic from trans people to trans adults

see, deflection

If I disagree with you, you can simply declare that my disagreement proves I lack the ability or self-awareness to recognize that you're right.
You've got yourself all boxed in.
Does it get lonely in there, behind that impenetrable wall of logic?

#33 | Posted by BillJohnson

WRONG

It's your utter inability to present a coherent, logical argument.

It is your consistent disregard of direct questions and constant deflection.

IOW you're not very smart

Compounded by you not being a good person.

Cause, a good person would realize their limitations and bend over backwards to be kind

Truth,
I reread all your posts and do not see one opinion that sounds rational.
If I'm logged in I may not see your posts or decide there's nothing there I want to respond to.

#31 | Posted by BillJohnson

Look at you being a liar or an ignoramus, again.

I will restate

You said, "When Muslims have that much power over me and mine I'll worry about them"
Are you agreeing my scenario is plausible?
I'm not suggesting Muslims shouldn't come to the US.
What I am saying is they must not turn America into the culture they came from. Like other religions, do your worshipping privately on your own time. Do not disrupt other people.
Otherwise I wouldn't care.
But if my concerns have any merit, you would wait until they have power over you before you worry about them.
Isn't that then too late?

#30 | Posted by BillJohnson

Ive already made myself perfectly clear.

You're either too stupid or too deceitful to recognize it

I find Islam and its practitioners as abhorrent as Christians.

I am far more concerned about Christians, like you, because you have power over me and mine

The religious nuts already have far more destructive sway over me and mind than I find acceptable.

Donner,
Be specific about what you disagree with I've said.
If you don't, then you're nothing but hot air.
#26 | Posted by BillJohnson

Do you believe in a woman's inalienable right to choose?

Do you believe trans people have an inalienable right to the healthcare they choose?

Do you believe President Piggy is a threat to our democracy?

You're so incredibly unselfaware you don't even understand the question.

See #24

Danni,
"I can't speak for anyone but me and I fear people like Bill Johnson far more than Mayor Mondani."
I seriously would like to understand, in your own words, what it is about me or my posts that you fear.
What assertion have I made that you disagree with?
What exactly is it that you fear?

#22 | Posted by BillJohnson

You are a representative of the vile despicable holier than thou christian assholes who are imposing their myths on my loved ones.

You were confused the other day about how and I posted the thread about the religious leaders working with Blanche to impose their disgusting beliefs on a woman's bodily autonomy.

You refused to respond

And here you are a couple of days later just lah de dahing like you haven't been informed on the danger you represent.

Fuck you

Now see #24 above

Right now, secular people may be saying, "Why should I worry?"
Some of the same secular people who strongly defend Islamic religious accommodations today may eventually conclude that what they regarded as harmless accommodations was a Trojan horse.

#18 | Posted by BillJohnson

Hey dumbass

All religious people who let their myths bleed into their public polices suck.

Right now that threat comes from christians like you

When muslims have that much power over me and mine I'll worry about them

In the meantime keep your disgusting beliefs out of my life