Led Zep, The Beatles, name any other old people music. Bluh.

Pink Floyd has stood the test of time. I think A Momentary Lapse of Reason and the Division Bell were both exceptional albums. Maybe a little too new for you old farts.

#40

I'm hoping you are drunk right now. Otherwise, you might be the most unhinged person in this group.

Meth bender, maybe?

"You see those situations to be comparable, do you?"

Yup.

Totally.

In fact, out of all of them, Babbitt was the only one killed who didn't threaten officers.

She still FAFO'd, but didn't try and run anyone over. I don't blame the cops who smoked her ass. She should have been smarter than that. I would have likely done the same if I were the cops.

"They should deport her to a maximum security prison in El Salvador."

I KNEW you were MAGA!!!

"You provide nothing but excuses for cruelty and hate."

Quite the contrary.

I want you to tell me your position. My daughter has spent about half her life in Germany. In less than 18 months, her legal status to stay in this country will expire.

What should Germany do? Expel her, which I would imagine you would view as being cruel and hateful, or grant her some sort of residency status because she has been here.

Technically, she has been in the country legally since 2019, so she does have a history of legal residency. Does that make it more or less cruel to deport her?

"You're the type who believes Renee Good and Alex Pretti deserved to be murdered."

FAFO.

Remember Ashli Babbitt?

Did she deserve to be killed?

In my mind, just another example of FAFO.

"They were in the country illegally...Said the European colonizer."

So would Germany be cruel if they deported my daughter, with her German roots, back to the US because she doesn't meet the conditions to stay in the country legally?

#28

You failed to provide a cogent answer.

Do you have a solution, or would you simply prefer to bleat.

To be fair, I don't see you capable of much more than bleating...

"Should people who were trafficked to the US against their will when they were young be treated the same way as violent criminals and people who made a conscious decision to immigrate illegally? I don't think so."

Good question.

I'm still not quite clear on whether the anti-ICE crowd is against deportations, or against the perception of cruelty towards those who will be deported. I'm all for deportation, but cruelty is an emotional response unrelated to the fact that someone is in the country illegally.

I don't know why a CBP guy would act cruelly to someone who showed up in the US without valid entry credentials. You just send them home and that's that.

"How is being deported into a country you've never been in before NOT cruel and unusual?"

In the case of the eight people sent to South Sudan, their own countries refused to accept them. They were all criminals.

Not saying it's right or wrong, but what should be done with them? Just keep them in prison in the US forever? They were in the country illegally, so to me that would seem the only logical option...unless you wanted to somehow offer residency or citizenship to illegals with criminal records, just because no one else wanted them. Including their own countries of origin.

"Is this attitude privledge?"

Quite the contrary. Privilege would be thinking that, being from country A, country B had an obligation to allow you to stay, even if you lacked the prerequisites to be in country B.

I am in Germany because they allow me to be here. If they elected to boot me, would you think them as being cruel?

"the deportees don't have the resources the country(ies) that they would be a more natural fit are dangerous to them the cruelty is the point."

I'm intrigued by your notion of a country being a "natural fit" for someone. Can you define that further?

If my unemployed, dirt-poor daughter was to be deported from Germany back to the US, would that constitute cruelty on the part of the German government? From my vantage point, I don't think so. Even though the US is vastly more dangerous than Germany.