He supported it, he signed it and it still crippled the middle class. Your delusional BS isn't getting you anywhere.

#46 | Posted by lfthndthrds

I posted historical facts that are beyond debate.

And for a trump cult member, that's called "delusional BS"

Freedom of religion means freedom from government imposed religion.

When you hold up the Bible as the standard the government must follow, you are demanding the very thing you would reject if someone tried to impose another religion's scripture on you.

That is hypocrisy and a refusal to face reality.

#218 | Posted by BillJohnson

When have dems tried to impose religion on anyone?

Meanwhile...

Displaying the Ten Commandments in public schools: Republican-led states such as Louisiana have passed laws requiring the Ten Commandments to be displayed in every public school classroom. Supporters argue they're historically significant; critics argue they violate the separation of church and state.

Mandatory Bible instruction or Bible curriculum: Republican officials in states like Oklahoma have pushed policies requiring or encouraging the Bible to be taught or used in public schools beyond its historical or literary context, prompting legal challenges.

School prayer initiatives: Many Republican lawmakers have supported legislation expanding teacher- or school-led prayer or seeking to overturn restrictions on organized prayer in public schools.

Abortion restrictions based on religious beliefs: Many Republican politicians support abortion bans that align with Christian beliefs about when life begins.

Opposition to same-sex marriage and LGBTQ+ rights: Republican-backed laws limiting recognition of same-sex relationships or restricting LGBTQ+ rights have often been justified in part by Christian religious beliefs

The dunce caps belong on the people who still support them.

I realize there are absolutely morons here who believe the GOP intended on screwing the middle class but the dems were simply fooled.

Whatever.....let them wear the dunce caps like they do every day here.

#32 | Posted by eberly

The GOP didn't intend to screw the middle class. They intended to give everything to the rich, even if they had to hollow out society and the middle class to do it.

You have no idea how I was raised, nor any idea what my wife and I have contributed to charity.

#31 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Any charitable donations you've made were erased by your support of the administration which cut off charity from millions of people.

bbc lol

#5 | Posted by john_savage2

trump's cult can't stand any news organization that didn't help sell the big lie.

They demand to be lied to.

I didn't vote for any of the fecal spray in the MAGA world. :(

#7 | Posted by GalaxiePete

Our idiotic country did. So our idiotic country gets fecal spray as a result.

That's putting it lightly. Killing the middleclass wasn't a mistake, they all knew what would happen with NAFTA. Now most of our vibrant rust belt cites and the Midwest cities are slums with no opportunity. You can work your way out of poverty with some opportunity, but you're dead in the water with poverty/no opportunity.

#27 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Of course repubs blame clinton for NAFTA.

In reality Here's the timeline:

Ronald Reagan is often credited with promoting the idea of a North American free trade area. During his 1980 presidential campaign, he advocated closer economic integration with Canada and Mexico.

Brian Mulroney and Reagan negotiated the Canada"United States Free Trade Agreement, which took effect in 1989 and became the foundation for a broader North American agreement.

Carlos Salinas de Gortari was a major driving force behind expanding free trade to include Mexico. In 1990, he formally proposed a free trade agreement with the United States.

George H. W. Bush agreed to negotiate. His administration, led by U.S. Trade Representative Carla Hills, conducted the negotiations with Canadian and Mexican counterparts.

The three countries completed the negotiations in 1992, and Bush, Mulroney, and Salinas signed the agreement in December 1992.

When Clinton entered office in January 1993:

He supported NAFTA but sought additional agreements on labor and environmental standards to address criticism.

After negotiating those side agreements, his administration worked to secure congressional approval.
Congress passed the implementing legislation, and Clinton signed it into law on December 8, 1993. NAFTA took effect on January 1, 1994.

the vote on NAFTA did not follow party lines.

House vote (November 17, 1993)
Passed 234"200
Republicans:
132 Yes
43 No
Democrats:
102 Yes
156 No

A majority of Democrats voted against the agreement, while a majority of Republicans voted for it.

Senate vote (November 20, 1993)
Passed 61"38
Republicans:
34 Yes
10 No
Democrats:
27 Yes
28 No

Again, Republican support was stronger than Democratic support.

Just getting tired of the people who claim this is some kind of sick trick to starve children. Especially when the people they've voted for did the same/similar. Same with immigration and trade.

#26 | Posted by lfthndthrds

No its a sick trick to fund tax cuts for the rich, who don't care if kids have to starve as a result.

Since illegal aliens have no constitutional rights, you can gun them down in the streets and your entirely valid legal defense is the fact that they're not even allowed to be here.

#25 | Posted by THEBULL

Why bother posting something you know is wrong?

In 2024, the agency signed a now-ended $2 million contract with Paragon Solutions for an unspecified product. Whether ICE ever used the tool or continues to use it is an open question.

That contract was swiftly put on hold by the Biden administration to investigate whether it complied with a 2023 executive order signed by the former president that prohibits federal agencies from purchasing commercial spyware that poses a significant security risk to the U.S. or risk of misuse by foreign governments.
www.vpm.org

Internal Documents Show How Close the F.B.I. Came to Deploying Spyware
Christopher Wray, the F.B.I.'s director, told Congress last December that the bureau purchased the phone hacking tool Pegasus for research and development purposes.
www.nytimes.com

You know the governments been using it .... for quite sometime now.

#7 | Posted by oneironaut

Your own links shows dems put it on hold whereas the party you support put it into the hand of untrained roided up nazi morons.

This is a thread about welfare reform. I don't buy Trump bibles, crypto or wear a MAGA hat. I was given two choices to vote for. I chose the one who could make complete sentences and didn't go around in circles of unburdenisms... BTW I believe Bill Clinton did the right thing when he signed the welfare reform piece.

#21 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Your post implied that because clinton did something that dems should support it.

Clinton made massive mistakes. Dems can admit that and we don't worship the man. You can't admit trump makes massive mistakes because you're in a cult.

3 times you chose trump over a rational reasonable leader. In none of those occassions was he the better choice by any measure. But you'll forever claim that biden's faults were worse than trump, with zero evidence when it comes to results. And you'll claim that harris WOULD HAVE been worse than trump, a pure fantasy from the cult that lives in delusion. Everything in the country was on a better course when biden left than it is now.