Separate districts, separate drinking fountains ... .segregation is racist.

#20 | Posted by BellRinger

You're a dumbf*&^. The exact type the GOP depends on to stay in power.

It's a good thing that is not happening.
Look at the Louisiana district map and try to justify it. I triple dog dare you.

#10 | Posted by BellRinger

Do you have any idea how stupid you sound saying that as you argue that spreading one black district out into three white districts so that LA loses a black rep isn't a resurgence of the racist south?

Only a racist POS would claim "reverse racism" is as bad as historical southern racism.

We'll know it's the end when Tiffany is brought out of storage.

Says the guy crying all thread that one of the most popular democrats is leading the party.
Progressivism is the future of the Democratic Party, or there is no Democratic Party and we're stuck with Republicans and Republican lite.

You're as unhinged and locked in a bubble of your own making as a Trumper.

Is that why you're leaving the country?
Because Biden did such a wonderful job as president?

Do you have any idea how unrealistic and flat out ignorant your posts sound? Short of numerous unconstitutional actions, there wasn't much Biden could do against an electorate dead set on self-destructing our country.

Biden spent four years maintaining Trump's America and handed it back to him when he stroked out on a national stage.

You're a f*&^ing idiot.

He could have prosecuted Trump for the insurrection.
But did nothing.

This is the only criticism you've made that's valid. That's it.

AOC is the future of the Democratic Party and you're leaving America.
Run away. Coward.

#291 | Posted by ClownShack

I guarantee you an AOC candidacy is a losing ticket.

And yes, I'm leaving for greener pastures. Seems like a wise thing to do than hang around and let my kids grow up in a country where our options are MAGA or dumbs*&^s like you.

Oh God, piss off with that garbage. It's old and you've gotten extremely one dimensional.

The nameless Dems, who, if they play along and check all the right boxes, get favor in the DNC and are placed on committees.
Meanwhile, Marjorie Taylor Greene served on two committees.
Which doesn't bur well for membership on committee's mattering.

#284 | Posted by ClownShack

LOL AOC gets the minor league committee assignments so Clownshart has to kick rocks and act like committee assignments are meaningless.

Wouldn't it be funny if we compared MTG's record to AOC's and found MTG was a more effective lawmaker? Boy would that get the spittle going.

Name them.
Names any democrats who have done more than AOC has in 7 years.
Name another voice in the party that carries as much weight as hers.
I bet you can't.

#278 | Posted by ClownShack

I literally took the first Dem woman in an alphabetical list and compared them.

She was as qualified or more than AOC and has even served in Congress about the same length of time.

It was the pragmatism of obama and biden that lead to trump.
Both times.
So it's pragmatism that is causing the race to the bottom.

#276 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

Oh boy.

No, just no.

What lead to Trump was decades of economic deconstruction by Repub policies and deregulation that slowly bled the populace from the bottom up.

Trump is the result of desperation and bitterness that bubbled up in upper levels of the lower class and lower level of the middle class because that plumbing/electrician/shift manager/nursing/accountant/state worker job they worked so hard to obtain no longer kept them safe from the offshoring, automation and now AI-driven job cuts/losses and the economic fallouts of unfettered "shareholder value" and rise of PE/VC capital drain on every aspect of our lives. Couple that with the consistent movement of political rhetoric out of the policy arenas and into the social wedge issue, rage bait-driven infotainment sphere and it's absolutely no surprise a lying demagogue like Trump won.

Brilliant response. About as intelligent as anything you've posted.
#274 | Posted by ClownShack

This coming from the guy who actually trotted out the "duhhhh YoUrE jUzT BraInWaShEd!!!" trope.

Meanwhile, AOC is doing more in the Democratic Party than anybody you've voted for with all their accomplishments.

Repeating the same baseless statement of wishful thinking doesn't change reality, sport.

I misrepresenting Biden? Please feel free to list all the things he did to protect America from Trump and the America we're living in today.

Damn right you are. He was handed a dumpster fire at the beginning of a pandemic and by the end of his administration we were recovered and on track to normalizing. He also pushed through the largest infrastructure investment of our lifetimes and aggressively prosecuted J6ers.

Only major criticism was the kid's gloves treatment of Trump himself. What else would you have had him do? Massive forced gerrymanders to shave off GOP seats? Stack SCOTUS?

Oh, that's right. You refuse to substantiate any of your claims. You're just spewing nonsense because you're pissed off a girl is doing more for America than you ever could.

More garbage. Has anybody told you you're a f*&^ing moron?

If Biden had done his job, there would be no Trump.
Run away, Coward.

You have a child's view of the world, dips*&^. No wonder you think AOC is accomplished. You probably think your high school diploma carries weight to, don't you?

Since I'm sure you'll whine that he's a white dude, how about Jasmine Crockett.

JD, public defender, started her own law firm to assist people subjected to police abuse/brutality, chair of county Demo party, elected to Texas House where three bills she sponsored became law.

Moved on to representative from Texas in HoR where she's been on influence committees (Judiciary and Oversight).

Or we could pick another random one and see how she stacks up to AOC?

What's hyperbole? The fact you can't list what accomplishments you're looking for in your political candidates? Or the fact that most politicians you support don't have any accomplishments to speak of?

You really are one stupid motherf*&^er. Like lfthndcuck level stupid, just on the left side of the spectrum.

Accomplishments I'd look for:

1)Advanced degrees and successful careers; particularly those involving leadership positions in touch fields or indications of excellence like professorships or fellowships
2)Holding office at multiple levels, whether that be at the state level and HoR, HoR then Senate ect and demonstrating efficacy at pushing through an agenda along with fellow lawmakers
3)Elevation to any national office like a cabinet secretary, vice secretary, national advisor in a field of expertise
4)Command level authority in the military, especially in difficult positions/fields

You know, the kind of stuff that shows you can lead and organize people around an idea or goal and make it happen, not simply shoving your face in front of cameras while kind of getting something done once every two years.

Politicians I support exhibit multiple items from above.

A good example for me would be Mark Kelley - Masters in Aeronautical Engineering, Naval officer (Captain) and carrier qualified combat aviator, pilot and commander of multiple space shuttle missions and US Senator from Arizona

Mark Kelly has built a legislative reputation around bipartisan infrastructure, semiconductor manufacturing, veterans and military issues, drought and water policy, prescription drug costs, and government ethics.

Some of his most notable legislative accomplishments and policy achievements include:

Bipartisan Infrastructure Law

Kelly played a significant role in shaping and passing the bipartisan infrastructure package signed in 2021.

The law funded:

Roads and bridges
Water infrastructure
Broadband expansion
Wildfire prevention
Border port modernization
Western drought resilience

He especially emphasized Arizona water systems and transportation projects.

CHIPS and Science Act

One of Kelly's biggest legislative priorities was boosting domestic semiconductor manufacturing.

He helped negotiate and pass the bipartisan CHIPS and Science Act, which:

Invested roughly $52 billion in U.S. semiconductor production
Encouraged companies to build chip plants in the U.S.
Strengthened supply chains
Expanded Arizona's technology sector

This legislation directly benefited Arizona, where companies like Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company expanded operations.

Inflation Reduction Act provisions

Kelly helped negotiate parts of the Inflation Reduction Act related to:

Prescription drug price reductions
Clean energy manufacturing
Western drought funding

His office highlighted provisions that:

Lowered insulin and drug costs for seniors
Invested billions in drought mitigation in the American West
Expanded clean-energy manufacturing jobs in Arizona

And he's been there about half the time AOC has...

You haven't even made an argument.
You personally don't see anything AOC has done as a worthy accomplishment.
But the majority of the Democrats disagree with you

Cool argument from popularity fallacy.

Doesn't change the fact that her list of accomplishments is small.

It's posted above, curated from Donnorboy's posts so you can't even claim that it's me being biased.

Go take a look.

She's accomplished more in her short time in the House of Representatives than most politicians who go into the House of Representatives.

You've made this assertion multiple times and provided zero evidence to back it.

Meanwhile, in reality, she's only procured $.19 million for her district (according to Donnor's posts) and gotten two amendments passed for about $25 million between two projects.

For fun, I took the first Dem woman rep from the top of the list of Dem reps and looked at her accomplishments. She is Alma Adams from South Carolina and she's been in the HoR for about as long as AOC has, having started in 2014.

Her primary accomplishment is the FUTURE Act, which introduced $255 million in annual funding increases for minority serving educational institutions, $85 million of which was designated for HBCUs.

Her committee assingments:

Committee assignments
Committee on Agriculture (Vice Chair)
Subcommittee on Nutrition, Oversight, and Department Operations
Committee on Education and Labor
Subcommittee on Workforce Protections (Chair)
Committee on Financial Services
Subcommittee on Diversity and Inclusion

Leadership in one committee and one subcommittee.

She was literally the first woman Dem rep in alphabetical order and she's as or more qualified for POTUS than AOC. And that's not even considering her background of muiltiple advanced degrees, time spent as a college level faculty member and state-level politics.

Her message gets attention in the Democratic Party. People resonate with her ideas. She is the future of the party.

Then why has she accomplished so little? If "her message gets the attention of the Democratic Party" she would have a longer list of accomplishments, leadership roles and committee assignments.

She doesn't. Because you're full of s*&^.

You never made anything clear. You literally had zero requirements for people who are presidential candidates in the past.

You keep repeating this falsehood. Because you're apparently intellectually challenged, let me state my position clearly: AOC does not have the accomplishments nor experiences to make her qualified to be POTUS. Is that clear enough?

The second line is just strawman stupidity repeated out of desperation.

You don't even know what you want out of politician. If you're not looking for a progressive Democrat, what are you looking for? Another Biden?

Another repetition of a strawman previously used and addressed. Post 107.

You're unwilling to actually say what accomplishments you seek in a politician because you know you don't have any.

Ahhh yes the personal ad hominem again. Because you still have nothing or you're projecting in your desperate flailing.

Just like you didn't have any for Biden, Harris, or Obama

They weren't grossly unqualified for the office for the office. You know who is/was? Trump. And I said as much.

Your analogy sucked. Trump is running America like a business.
The government isn't a business. It's a place where people go with ideas on how to make America better.

No s*&^, moron. I said as much.

Which is exactly what AOC is doing.

Except she hasn't really done much beyond elevate her own standing and income...

And yet you keep demanding for there to be one.
Make up your mind, stupid.

Not remotely close to reality. Do you read at a fifth or sixth grade level or something?

And look here you are again, putting it in a sequence.
I'd say Nancy Pelosi has been a much more powerful force in politics than most senators have been.
But clearly, Senator is a better title. Because you think the government is a business.

I'm stating what is common knowledge. For someone who frequents a political discussion site, you're awfully uninformed.

Here, let AI do your thinking for you:

Yes. In U.S. politics, moving from the United States House of Representatives to the United States Senate is generally considered a major promotion or "step up."

Here's why:

Prestige and visibility: Senators are more nationally prominent. There are only 100 senators versus 435 representatives.
Longer terms: Senators serve 6-year terms instead of 2-year terms, giving them more stability and influence.
Broader constituency: A representative serves a congressional district; a senator represents an entire state.
Greater powers: The Senate has unique constitutional responsibilities, including:
Confirming presidential appointments
Ratifying treaties
Conducting impeachment trials
Presidential pipeline: Senators are much more likely than House members to become serious presidential candidates. Examples include:
Barack Obama
John F. Kennedy
Joe Biden
John McCain

That said, powerful House leadership positions can rival or exceed the influence of many senators. For example:

The Speaker of the House, such as Nancy Pelosi or Newt Gingrich, is one of the most influential officials in Washington.
Senior committee chairs in the House can wield enormous policy power.

But for an ordinary member of Congress, a Senate seat is usually viewed as a significant advancement in status, influence, and political opportunity.

In the U.S. Senate (2005"2008)
Obama served only about four years before running for president, but he still participated in several significant bipartisan efforts.
Federal transparency and accountability
He partnered with Republican Senator Tom Coburn on legislation creating greater transparency in federal spending.
This led to the website:
USAspending.gov, which allowed the public to track federal expenditures more easily.

Ethics and lobbying reform

After corruption scandals involving lobbyist Jack Abramoff, Obama co-sponsored reforms that:
Increased disclosure of lobbying activities
Restricted gifts and travel funded by lobbyists
Improved transparency in earmarks
Nonproliferation and security

Obama worked with Republican Senator Richard Lugar on measures related to:
Securing conventional weapons and nuclear materials
Preventing weapons smuggling in Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union
This cooperation became known as the Lugar"Obama initiative.

Veterans' benefits

He supported legislation improving benefits for veterans returning from conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Broader significance
Obama's pre-presidential legislative career was often characterized less by sweeping landmark laws and more by:
Bipartisan coalition-building
Ethics and transparency reforms
Criminal justice reforms
Incremental social policy expansion

Can any of that be said about AOC who is usually confrontation and theatrical in her politics? Remember the sit in in Pelosi's office? The Met Gala? The fake arrest at a protest?

No such step exists.
It's amazing you suddenly demand this notion of "accomplishment" when AOC's name is brought up but never in the past.
What were Biden's accomplishments? Existing? Being a career politician? What exactly did Biden accomplish?

Of course, it has. You're just butthurt this time so it's sticking in your craw.

I never doubted Harris' qualifications/accomplishments, I just thought she was a bad candidate installed into the nomination; two losing propositions.

I never doubted Hillary's qualifications and think she got a raw deal, and the country made a huge mistake.

Your Biden comment is just sheer butthurt stupidity.

Obama and Clinton never served in the House of Representatives and went straight to the Senate.
Obama didn't accomplish anything before becoming president.

I didn't say it was a mandatory pipeline. Are you able to read at an adult level of comprehension?

Obama had a JD from Harvard, worked for a civil rights law firm, taught constitutional law for over a decade, served as both a state and national Senator for the state of Illinois, during which he held positions on significant committees and leadership positions on subcommittees that gave him visibility and experience in foreign affairs/policy. Here Donnorboy, here's a bone for you; from AI:

Before becoming President in 2009, Barack Obama built a reputation as a pragmatic legislator in both the Illinois Senate and the United States Senate. His accomplishments were not on the scale of a long-serving congressional leader, but he was involved in several notable bipartisan and reform-oriented laws.

In the Illinois State Senate (1997"2004)
Obama's most substantial legislative record came at the state level.
Ethics and campaign finance reform

He worked with both Democrats and Republicans to pass ethics reforms that:
Restricted gifts from lobbyists
Increased transparency in campaign finance
Tightened disclosure rules for politicians

These reforms gained attention after corruption scandals in Illinois politics.
Criminal justice and policing reforms

Obama helped pass legislation that:
Required police to videotape interrogations and confessions in homicide cases
Addressed racial profiling by requiring police to record the race of drivers stopped during traffic stops

The videotaping law became especially influential because it aimed to reduce false confessions and wrongful convictions.

Health care expansion
He supported and helped pass a measure expanding health coverage for uninsured children and low-income families in Illinois.
Tax credits for low-income workers
Obama backed expansions of the state Earned Income Tax Credit to help lower-income working families...