I anticipate jeff no longer posting in this thread or certainly ignoring my questions

Jeff do black people have the same economic outcome as white people?
IOW do black people have the same wealth as white people? or as Latinos? or as Asian people?
If not, then what is the cause of the disparity?
If not, should we not study the cause of the disparity? Wouldn't that be the right thing to do?

#105 | Posted by truthhurts

Corrected last question

Jeff do black people have the same economic outcome as white people?

IOW do black people have the same wealth as white people? or as Latinos? or as Asian people?

If not, then what is the cause of the disparity?

If yes, should we not study the cause of the disparity? Wouldn't that be the right thing to do?

CRT is the study of the difference in outcomes based on race

To think CRT is not a thing, one has to not believe there is a difference in outcome based on race, i.e. (for example) one has to think that there are no differences in the wealth that white people and black people possess
OR
to think that the difference in outcomes based on race is not a systematic issue but an issue based on race, i.e. the race itself causes the difference, i.e. that one race is fundamentally different so as to lead to different outcomes.

this is a thing called a fact

Which has not nothing to do with how our racial history is actually taught. CRT is about victim hierarchy. Making white kiss hate themselves and black kids resent and hate white kids due to skin color.

#94 | Posted by BellRinger

It is truly amazing how jeff is so talented at proving my point.

" I bet you don't understand why when you attack CRT education you end up attacking civics education"
CRT has nothing to do with civics. Wasting time on that garbage takes time and resources that should go to civics education.

#90 | Posted by BellRinger a

Racial theory has nothing to do with American civics?

Are you AWARE of the Voting Rights Act? Why it was necessary?

Do you understand how attacking educators measures to teach civics in a modern context, you know with all it's complexity you end up convincing educators to not teach civics as all because assholes like you will terrorize the educators

bet you don't understand the impact of No Child Left Behind"
I sure as heck do. It was terrible policy supported by W and Ted Kennedy. Also, which side laments a lack of civic education more, right or left. I'd say right all day and twice on Sunday.

#88 | Posted by BellRinge

Republicans are great about whining about problems they create

Twoothy is a case in point.
This is a problem that goes back decades and he's pointing to Trump's stupidity over the 2020 election as if THAT is the reason why civics isn't being taught in our public schools.

#86 | Posted by BellRinger

And look at you lie

Piggy's election is a symptom you simpering idiot

Like I have said repeatedly, the problem is conservatism.

IOW people like you

But you will lie because that is who you are

Have you ever responded to my query about how you feel about no one respecting you around here?

I bet you don't understand why when you attack CRT education you end up attacking civics education

I bet you are a lying piece of shit

At this point you are just a bot.
I'm not even looking to argue or debate on this thread. I raised a concerning issue - the lack of education of civics in this country. It's a problem that I'd like to think would concern both the right and left. Apparently I'm wrong about that. Lefties, at least on this site, don't appear to care about anything other than attacking their political opponents. The crazy thing is my political views have some overlap with the lefties on this site. But instead of talking about an issue and maybe positing possible solutions it's nothing but personal attacks. I can't even wrap my mind around the anger, rage and abject hatred you people carry around. What a miserable way to live.

#79 | Posted by BellRinger

Hey dumbass

Why is civics not taught in schools, allegedly.

I bet you don't understand the impact of No Child Left Behind or a focus on STEM and NOT a well-rounded education or the assault on teachers/educators for "indoctrination"

I bet you don't understand why it is conservative philosophy that is causing this failing.

I told you that you were too stupid or immoral to understand

And I was right

If you can't understand how the president lying about how our elections work, you know, the very basis of democracy impacts people's understanding of civics

well, that is just you being you

I've said it before, I'll say it again, the majority of the problems YOU decry are caused by the decades long conservative agenda.

People don't understand civics? Republicans have been attacking education for decades Republicans have been propagandizing lies that attack democracy and the functioning of our government. Republicans elect a president who lies, about EVERYTHING.

There is an economic divide? Republicans only agenda is cutting taxes for the rich and gutting social safety net for the majority of Americans

There is an immigration problem? Republicans destabilize developing nations and incentivize corporations to seek cheap labor

There is a trans problem? Actually NO there is no trans problem, Republicans lie about trans people and destroy lives

Republicans lie and get us into wars

Republicans lie and gut climate change solutions INCLUDING solutions that have great economic benefits

Republicans LIE and subvert democracy

So, yeah the problem is you

" #57 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2026-11-12 03:52 PM | REPLY | FLAG:"
You never actually address what is linked. It's all narrative based for you and your ilk.
The lefties on this site are increasingly rare in their willingness to address the topic being put forth if it doesn't conform to the far left narrative.
#60 | Posted by BellRinger

No dumbass I addressed it perfectly

You're too stupid and immoral to understand it

When the POTUS whines for years about a stolen election with lies, lies and more lies

and tries a bloody murderous insurrection

that tends to destroy people's trust (and thus understanding of civics)

When the propaganda army of the right lies and lies and lies about civics that tends to destroy people's trust (and thus understanding of civics)

that destruction starts with the schools because you can't have an educated population they would vote socialism every day of the week and twice on sunday

so no I am not going to engage with your rag's troll story about how the problem is communist trans groomer teachers

I am going to state the truth (and an obvious one at that)

The problem with a lack of understanding civics, like most problems in America, is the fault of conservative philosophy in action