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Wednesday, November 25, 2020

President-elect Joe Biden surpassed 80 million votes, the most votes a candidate has received in U.S. history. read more


Friday, October 02, 2020

CORONAVIRUS Trump, first lady test positive for Covid-19 The announcement comes shortly after the president said he and the first lady were in the "quarantine process" following senior aide Hope Hicks' positive test.


CORONAVIRUS Trump, first lady test positive for Covid-19 The announcement comes shortly after the president said he and the first lady were in the "quarantine process" following senior aide Hope Hicks' positive test.


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"It typically takes ten years to produce a vaccine. Given the recent death in the patient in the AstraZeneca study, I don't have a lot of confidence that an effective vaccine will be coming soon.
#138 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER AT 2020-10-22 11:42 AM"

Your presumption that the development of a COVID-19 vaccine will be 'typical' and take ten years is not supported by evidence.

www.weforum.org

It's prudent to be skeptical of unusual claims regarding the effectiveness of any medication (vaccines included).
So? How about getting on record as to what you mean by "soon" and "effective" when you express lack of confidence that an effective vaccine will be coming soon. Until you define what you mean by those two terms, your statement amounts to zilch.

" 'Why stop at decades of lockdown? Why not centuries of lockdown? Nothing like a ridiculous Strawman argument to prove a point, eh?'

And this is where there is a divide. I could be wrong, but it appears that most people here are against a lockdown. That masks, contract tracing, and other non-intrusive efforts are sufficient to contain the spread. That's good, because lockdowns will only work within a society that is willing to accept the costs of a lockdown, regardless of how long it goes on. And that's a more significant cost than has been seen in the history of out country. But there is no point in locking down to reduce numbers, only to re-open and have the numbers go up again.
#138 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER AT 2020-10-22 11:42 AM"

The divide is your presenting 'decades of lockdown' as a position that anyone has offered.
Suggest you look up what the term 'Strawman' means.

Whether people are for/against a lockdown is irrelevant as to the effectiveness of using that as an option (which, BTW, is the topic being discussed). To put it another way: Mother Nature really doesn't care what people "like".

The point of a lockdown is to disrupt the propagation and expansion of the virus. Obviously, the number will go down during a lockdown and (likely) will go up when the lockdown is lifted (duh!). However, by disrupting the propagation, one can possibly reduce the propagation of the virus to a much lower level. Your (implied) claim that the virus will simply come back to the same level after the lockdown is lifted is not supported by evidence. This is not a philosophical discussion. There are plenty of actual examples to give guidance.

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