"USS has opened and expanding in other plants. I do business with USS and they are investing in other plants.
again bogus, misleading article from the left
#13 | Posted by Maverick at 2019-08-20 10:17 PM"

USS might be doing that as a reaction to last year's steel demand.
However, USS also is trying to produce more steel with fewer furnaces.
Blaming "the left" and claiming the article is "bogus" will not change economic realities.

" 'Correct, but isn't the discussion about the wars in the ME?'

Exactly.

'Why weren't they 'over in weeks'? Even WW1 and WW2 wasn't 'over in weeks' in the ME.

#41 | POSTED BY TRUEBLUE'

It's speculation, of course, since politics tied the generals' hands, but it seems if a highly sophisticated fighting machine could win a global conflict in 4 years against other sophisticated fighting machines, it could win a regioanal conflict against a less sophisticated oponent in much less time. But again, the generals' hands are tied by politics. They weren't in WW2 Can you imagine what WW2 would have been like if the generals were told, "no collateral damage!" That war would have drug on for much longer, just as they are in the ME.
#42 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-20 06:47 AM"

" 'So the conflicts are over?
Seems I'm not up on the latest news.

#39 | POSTED BY TRUEBLUE'

WW2 is over. The current ones are not.
Posted by goatman at 2019-08-20 05:48 AM"

Correct, but isn't the discussion about the wars in the ME?
They were fought like WW2 during WW1 and WW2, but those conflicts did not end with WW1 and WW2.
Some could reasonably argue that they became worse after WW1 and WW2.
Why weren't they 'over in weeks'? Even WW1 and WW2 wasn't 'over in weeks' in the ME.

" 'BTW, wasn't there involvement of the Middle East in both WW1 and WW2? Weren't those conflicts "fought like WW2"?'

Yes. That sums up my point very well. If we fought the current wars as we did WW2, they'd be over. Thank you,.
#38 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-20 05:43 AM"

So the conflicts are over?

Seems I'm not up on the latest news.

""That's why Iraq dragging on for years is beyond comprehension. "

It's not incomprehensible if you consider that politicians fought the war and boo hooing liberals who screamed whenever an alleged milk factory got bombed or a mosque harboring munitions was targeted.

If the wars in the ME were fought like WW2, they'd be over in weeks
#23 | Posted by goatman at 2019-08-20 04:49 AM"

It is astounding how much power you ascribe to screaming 'boo hooing liberals'! Especially since, until very recently, the GOP enjoyed the control of all three branches of government for two years. Even now, the GOP has only partially been hampered in the exercise of their power.

BTW, wasn't there involvement of the Middle East in both WW1 and WW2? Weren't those conflicts "fought like WW2"?
How'd that work out? As long as we seem to be given over to simplistic solutions to the political situation in the Middle East, I'll conveniently do likewise and minimize the millennia of decentralized/tribal governments having any bearing upon the present situation.

The problem, IMHO, is not so much the capability (or lack of capability) of various armies to inflict shock/awe as the inability to have an effective plan of what to do once the dust settles. Much of the intensity of today's woe's in the Middle East can be directly traced to the FUBAR that the British implemented after WW1:

They're not "my numbers". They are Wall Street's numbers. Gotta give credit where it's due.

If you use inflation adjusted values (you know, one's that correspond to actual buying power gain/loss), it's even closer.

Meanwhile, using your reasoning and the historical record, President Obama is the best thing since the Great Depression for the DJIA. No surprise since Democrat administrations historically typically have a better DJIA performance (even when given a bad economic situation) than GOP administrations. But hey, it's YOUR money so feel free to put it where your mouth is!

* The DJIA close on August 11, 2011 was 11,143.3 *

Speaking of being "not even close":

RE: #3 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE AT 2019-08-14 07:26 AM

While those might be the thoughts/beliefs of the Dayton shooter, what's missing in this false equivalence, "whataboutism" is that the focus of the your presumption of the Dayton shooter's ire (corporations, polluters, etc.) were not who he targeted.

That's not the case for the El Paso shooter!

It seems many (most?) of the recent swings in the DOW are connected to whatever is the latest news concerning the US-China Tariff situation.

New tariffs? Delayed/cancelled negotiations? = DOW drops.

Delayed/cancelled tariffs? New negotiations? = DOW spikes.

Given the old (and useless) adage for stock investing: "buy low; sell high", this is beginning to smell like stock manipulation IMHO.
The principal players (Presidents Xi and Trump) are essentially controlling this "insider information". Cui bono.

"So? They also said Hillary would beat Trump one hour before election day. So how could they possible be trusted to predict what happens 15 months before election day?
Poll people are funny critters.
#18 | POSTED BY GOATMAN AT 2019-08-13 11:47 PM"

Who is "they"?
A specific poll, an average of several polls, or something else?

IIRC, an average of the latest national polls very closely matched the popular vote in the 2016 election. Of course, the popular vote is not how a US President is elected. That is done by Electoral College votes, which are determined State-by-State. The polling for several key States was enough off by enough to be incorrect (altho', within the polling's margin of error).

"#20 | Posted by TrueBlue 13% is statistically significant in any text book I have had to read. 3% is debatable or of a marginal significance. That equates to 40 odd deaths, but who's counting.
#28 | POSTED BY DOCNJO AT 2019-08-09 09:17 AM"

Not correct.
Sounds like you're confusing p value with percentage.
They are not equivalent.

The problem here, as noted regarding the decreasing number, is determining what is statistically significant from a small sample size (not to mention the problems dealing with samples that are not normally distributed).

To help illustrate this difficulty:
What if one had only two deaths per year, but then next year there were three deaths. That would, technically, be a 50% increase but no knowledgeable statistician would claim that is statistically significant even though it's much greater than a 13% change.

A useful rule-of-thumb is to take the square root of the value in the sample and use that for an approximation of the statistical variance. In this case, that would be about ten percent which is essentially the change from 2017 to 2018 (as noted).

Regardless of that little review of how to use statistics, a 13% increase in one year from a previous year is hardly indicative of a substantial change, especially when compared to the previous decades of data.

" 'she didn't express concern that he might shoot somebody.'

That level of disingenuousness is bad even for you, Jeff. What do you think the mother's concern was when she "worried about his age, maturity level and lack of experience?" That he might do what, exactly?
#6 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2019-08-08 05:34 PM"

Ease up on JEFFJ, JOE.

Who knows? Her son might have been planning to go fishing, so they just exhibited the same level of concern as if he'd bought a case a dynamite. /sarc

"#9 | Posted by SpeakSoftly Seems there are more cops killed on duty every year, does that make you warm at night in your empty bed?
#17 | POSTED BY DOCNJO AT 2019-08-09 01:35 AM"

It might seem that way, but it is not confirmed by the data.
The number of cops killed on duty has been generally decreasing for almost fifty years and, significantly, during a time when the number of cops on-duty has been increasing.

"#5: Economists will tell you the honeymoon period os over a year after a new administration comes in. The folks who are still saying, "It's Obama's econcomy" today will be saying, "Its Trump's economhy when the bubble bursts. Mark my words.
#11 | POSTED BY GOATMAN AT 2019-08-06 10:50 AM"

Welcome back, GOATMAN!

If what you say economists are telling us is true, then the DJIA at COB on August 6, 2019 is less than it was at COB on January 19, 2018 (one year after the 'honeymoon").

"#15 | Posted by OCUser Strange, but there have been many political rallies held by Democrat rallies held by Sanders and HRC and I never hear of those quacks paying a cent. Maybe the Democrats should think it a honer that the POTUS chooses their city to speak in. TR never spent a cent for the outlay of extra police protection, neither did Wilson, FDR or Truman, so you want to start something new?
#19 | POSTED BY DOCNJO AT 2019-08-06 08:32 PM"

What about the rallies that were held before Donald Trump was elect POTUS?

What about a signed contract with a city to pay for security?

Like the old joke about outrunning a bear:
One doesn't have to be the fastest runner. One only has to be faster than who they're running with.

Maybe he can drop off a check when he goes to visit El Paso later this week.

I can think of one way to avoid embarrassment at a Trump Rally.

Anyone else?

Bueller?

"Explain that to me aborted. Tell me it has nothing to do with climate and make my point.
#5 | POSTED BY SNIPER AT 2019-08-01 04:25 PM"

Impossible to prove a negative.

One might as well say: "Prove it isn't caused by invisible fairies!".

SOP: You make a claim, it's your requirement to provide evidence when challenged.

"Nevertheless, record black employment under President Trump.
President Obama didn't give A CRAP about that.
And no one will face the facts, even though they are paradoxical.
#17 | POSTED BY DRIVELIKEJEHU AT 2019-07-31 07:24 AM"

OK, let's look at some actual data and put this meme to the test:

African-American unemployment rate reached a recent peak of almost 17 % (16.8%) in March of 2010 on the heels of the Great Recession.

Since then, it steadily decreased to a low of 5.9% for May 2018 and then ticked up a bit to 7.0% in February 2019 before decreasing again to the current (June 2019) level of 6.0%

Given the nearly constant drop from March 2010 to end of President Obama's tenure (January 2017) when it was cut more than a half to 7.7%, it seems implausible to claim President Obama "didn't give A CRAP" about their unemployment. So, under President Trump's tenure, there's been an overall decrease from (roughly) 8% to 6%. If anything, President Trump's crowing about this good news is more indicative of being 'born on third base and thinking he hit a triple'.

Interesting.

Long time ago I did geophysical surveys in that area and stayed in Lone Pine.

Two interesting tidbits about that area:

1. west of Lone Pine is the Alabama Hills which were used by Hollywood for Western movie sets.
If you're a fan of old (1930-1960) Westerns, you'll probably recognize the views as you drive through the Alabama Hills.

2. there's what appears to be a road cut just north of Lone Pine. It's actually a scarp thrown up during the 1872 earthquake that is over twenty feet high!
I think the 1872 earthquake is the largest California has experienced in recorded history. Would be something if that fault were re-activated in a big way!

"In his next speech Trump will regale us with a story that he was in fact a 9-11 first responder.
#27 | POSTED BY BERTO42 AT 2019-07-30 10:04 PM"

In fairness, whenever there's a photo op, he's a "first responder".

Re: #28

No disagreement here, which is precisely what I said in the second paragraph.

The first paragraph was pointing out the error in the statement about who actually settled the land.

" 'the migratory people had to be eliminated/contained'
So that those who did the elimination and or containment could migrate.
Nowadays we call this ethnic cleansing.
Except whatever source you're quoting, which calls it "opened to settlement."
#25 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2019-07-30 05:10 AM"

I understand your point.
In this instance, very few who actually did the elimination/containment migrated into the area or did it because they wanted to migrate into the area.
That said, they certainly did it at the behest of those who did want the area "ethnically cleansed", typically to acquire $$$.