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At least they had the forethough to get their pensions guaranteed before tinkling on Trump.
#5 | Posted by madscientist
Unlike Andrew McCabe, former Deputy Director of the FBI, whose only 'crime' was that his wife ran as a Democrat for a seat in the Virginia state legislature, TWO YEARS before Trump was elected President.
Hours after saying that "this is a great day" for George Floyd, Trump retweets a post quoting conservative commentator saying of Floyd, "The fact that he has been held up as a martyr sickens me."
Who has been in office longer than Trump?
#37 | POSTED BY PETROUS AT
Lindsey Graham's pickle snniffin, wallowed out sss.
What are you getting at here??
I wonder where he is moving them to?
#3 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-06-06 03:23 PM
1600 Pennsylvania Ave. AKA Fort Bone Spurs.
89 cops died in 2019, half of those were crimes, the other half accidents. Somehow cops get tanks and immunity to protect them while health workers go without protection.
Merkel didn't accept an invitation from Trump recently. This is how he gets back at her. Trump keeps lists, like the florid sociopath that he is.
"Putin surprises Germany by having his spokesman in DC announce troop withdrawal. Braindead, limp dcck, mayonnaise eating bttches rejoice."
#18 | POSTED BY PRIUS04
Merkel's decision to stay away from a Group of Seven meeting that Trump had planned to host in Washington this month had no influence on the planned pullout, the person said.
LOL. Of course not. You'd have to be a petty, vindictive, whiny little bitch if you let that guide strategic military decisions.
@#11 ... which of his advisors ...
Probably Pres Putin.
( ~you want my help in November to win again, well, then you'll have to do this for me....~ )
He didn't slip for shht.
He was pushed and stumbled backwards, unable to regain his footing, he fell.
Might as well blame gravity for pulling him to the ground.
"He did slip in my estimation. He fell backwards."
These statements, while seemingly technically true, are cover for a deeper lie.
A lie of omission.
He slipped and fell, why?
He slipped and fell about as much as that Saudi Prince whose rape defense was he slipped and fell and ended up inadvertently penetrating the woman on the couch.
"Our position is these officers were simply following orders from Deputy Police Commissioner Joseph Gramaglia to clear the square," Evans said. "It doesn't specify clear the square of men, 50 and under or 15 to 40. They were simply doing their job. I don't know how much contact was made. He did slip in my estimation. He fell backwards."...
And the police really wonder why there are trust issues...
Richard Pryor did a bit where he said who wants to go for a night out with your lady after the police get done squeezing your nuts.
Richard Pryor said white people don't even know that kind of stuff is happening to black people.
Fifty years later, everybody knows it's happening to black people.
"Just out of curiosity, who lays down their guard to listen?"
Your comment underscores the difference between hearing and listening.
When someone says their cries fell on deaf ears, it doesn't mean their cries weren't heard. It meant nobody listened.
Kaepernick taking a knee fell on deaf ears. Everyone heard, few listened. Roger Goddell didn't listen.
Trump loses reelection.
If Biden is President, will you guarantee no more riots will occur the next 4 years. 8 years. 12 years?
This is Pre-Trump and will be post Trump.
Who has been in office longer than Trump?
#48 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG
Did you hear what happened in Boston?
An unarmed teenage boy was hit in the head with the butt end of a rifle during a nonviolent verbal exchange with a law enforcement officer.
Word of the incident quickly spread, and within an hour several people gathered in the area to peacefully protest. They shouted slogans, and business owners in the area closed up shop for fear of their property.
The law enforcement officers called for backup, and backup arrived in the form of heavily armed law enforcement personnel. They then declared the the assembly unlawful and ordered the protesters to disperse.
The crowd, in response, grew restless and hurled dirt clods at law enforcement personnel. Law enforcement responded by firing into the crowd.
The first man killed was a black man.
If, while reading this story, you found yourself thinking that law enforcement was in the right, and that the protesters should have dispersed...
Then congratulations, you have fallen on the wrong side of history, siding with the tyrant king George III against American patriots.
The incident occurred in 1770. The black man killed was named Crispus Attucks. The incident became known as the Boston massacre and was one of the key events leading to the American revolution.
**** C & P from elsewhere ****
Republicans are always accusing liberals of voter fraud. But as we see again and again and again, usually it is people who who are guilty of bad behavior who constantly accuse others. In fact, it is almost the surest way sometimes to figure out who the bad guys are. Republicans cheat, so they accuse everyone else of cheating.
The act of listening is a powerful way of indicating both humility and openness. Resisting the urge to respond, disagree, or make points of your own is often the most difficult act of discipline and self control a person can exercise. We all seem to think that we know so much, or somehow know it all. It is hard to accept that in many ways, we know nothing.
"After that it get's kind of complicated (and messy)."
So...you seem good at this.
Try and envision a situation where Trump loses, but is unwilling to accept the results and declares himself president. Is there any circumstance where you see that as being possible.
I ask because if you can see it, he certainly does.
Shocker. Any info that comes from trump's government is suspect. Truth tellers are removed as soon as they are discovered. Only cult members willing to gaslight the world are allowed.
... On June 6, 1944, Allied forces crossed the English Channel and began to reclaim the European mainland. ...
My Dad landed on the beach that day. Fortunately he made it back home, and received a bronze Star for his efforts.
@#3 ... Voter fraud is a real thing - and it's really perpetrated by republicans... ...
Yet the solutions to voter fraud proposed by Republicans generally seem to target Democrats.
The letters need to keep coming, and they must give interviews and speeches. We need them now. It is time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.
... a growing chorus of elected officials, civic leaders and residents in Minneapolis are urging the city to break up the Police Department and reimagine the way policing works. ...
This is not "defunding the police.
This is a refocusing the police on their "Protect and Serve" motto.
Germany's lockdown results are still exploding. Theirs is a Q2 thing, where the worst of ours hit in Q1.
#13 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG
We have not seen the worst of ours. New York was what will happen to the rest of us. In two weeks everyone will be locked down again in America.
Maybe Trumpy can send his storm troopers to tear gas that unruly virus when it starts surging a few days from now.
Trump is only a distraction.
#30 | Posted by Ray at 20
Donald Trump on some level knows what he wants and what he is doing. He's not an evil genius but a selfish man who has had lots of practice getting what he wants.
Where is sniper and his unemployment calculator when you need him?
He will gladly remind you that the numbers were never accurate.
They were especially not accurate under Obama. Maybe he figured trump would never lie about these things being as they are so important to his re-election. No Trumpy would never lie to us.about something that important to him! Not intentionally!
Isn't that right snippy?
But if you think logically, Trump has been in office for too short a time to do all this damage. This has been building up for decades.
#27 | POSTED BY RAY
Stop "thinking" and open your eyes Ray.
Trump has no idea what America is about and in his criminal bungling he is eating away at our democratic ideals.
And you paid for it again. And you pay and pay and you will keep paying until he is gone.
Hundreds of thousands of Americans that would have lived with effective and rational leadership will not survive this presidency.
#15 | Posted by Petrous
Thanks for posting that. At least when it got some press the trumplings decided seizing those masks wasn't such a bright idea after all.
I wonder what would have happened if a D governor had seized a shipment of MAGA hats?
Uhm... people go back to work a few jobs are opened. It isn't magic. I equate this with pulling down the Saddam Statue or Mission Accomplished... desperate grabs at straws for a supremely failed presidency.
Enjoy it while you can clowns.
So if a cop fires a year has canister directly into your face from a few feet away he or she is engaging in "crowd control."
If someone picks that same tear gas canister up and throws it back at the cop who fired it they will be charged with assault with a deadly weapon?
You never know...Sniper might be that cool friend you drop in unnounced upon once a week to get plastered with, load up the buckboard, and lasso cacti.
How many American rights, guaranteed by the Constitution, has Trump violated just in the past several weeks?
Enough that he should have been removed from office by any Senators who frame themselves as "patriots". They are in violation of their oath to protect and defend the Constitution. Instead, they are only trying to protect and defend their own rear ends. ---- them.
#40 | POSTED BY FRESNO500
The 2 who shoved him were the "bad cops" who everyone says they don't like.
The 55 who would have lied for them if there wasn't video evidence of it are the "good cops" that I always hear about.
And people will deny that it's systemic.
With a straight face, even.
I am registered to vote, and that's my plan for the future; if we can still vote in November.
#9 | POSTED BY JOHN47
If we make thru the Hunger Games to November.
Good luck and may the odds be forever in your favor!
A woman who witnessed the arrest of Manuel Ellis, a black man who died during the police encounter in Tacoma, Wash., has come forward to dispute the account provided by the police, saying officers themselves had initiated a confrontation so violent that she yelled at them to "stop hitting him."
If that type of plan is proposed, I could see Maryland making a good case for absorbing the rest of the territory, which I fee would be a good fit.
Why consolidation? Should Vermont be absorbed into New Hampshire too since it has less population than DC?
Why not take Wyoming and put it into Idaho then. Why does it deserve statehood?
Make the argument why DC doesn't deserve to be its own state, Columbia. My argument is there is a distinct reason why DC wasn't incorporated into Maryland as much as there's a reason each existent state was incorporated into the USA within its current boundaries.
The case for Columbia statehood is the likelihood our Founders never imagined that their federal district would grow into such a large population of US citizens uniquely living without the very same representations all other citizens enjoy. My belief is that they would have stood for fixing the situation long ago.
#5 - TONYROMA
I agree. Over the last week I have been starting a lot of hard talks with my family about race and white privilege. My family all voted for Trump. It's been surprising, and refreshing, to find out they are not the radicalized white nationalist racists I feared they might lean towards. Just the unintentional ignorant racist. The type that doesn't understand why we have black history month, how to articulate what's wrong with saying "All Lives Matter" and such. Watching Republican leaders like GBii advocates for BLM has been surprising and encouraging. My family will likely always be conservative. My goal in talking with my family is not to have them vote for Joe Biden but just to sit this election cycle out. Take one for team America. Don't vote for Trump.
Trump has gone so far over the edge in his handling of BLM and the current crisis it is becoming near impossible to separate voting for Trump from being a white nationalist. Good. Now that we know who they are and what we're dealing with maybe we can progress as a country to a more equitable quality of life for black Americans.
And a Black Lives Matter Plaza sign was installed at the intersection of H and 16th streets, where Trump had that photo op outside the St. John's Episcopal Church.
Now lets see if the state of Florida issues any arrest warrants. After all, it appears that several individuals may have committed felonies.
At least Trump can look on the bright side; next time some uppity female reporter asks him about his claim that voting by mail is rampant with fraud, he'll have some hard examples that he can reference that proves his point.
Trump Is Uniting Americans --- Against Him
If any would've told me 10 years ago that future me would be thankful Nancy Pelosi was House Speaker, I'd of laughed until I had a coronary.
It's been very powerful to see so many people quietly say no to the
Though I don't subscribe to a lot of it, there is nothing inherently wrong with principled conservatism. But that is not what is driving the Republican Party these days.
One of the most heartening aspects of today's open revolt has been the sheer numbers of unabashed conservatives who've publicly and oftentimes forcefully come out in unqualified opposition to the politics and actions of the man currently sitting in the White House, blatantly calling his use of governmental power unconstitutional.
All 57 members of the brute squad that assaulted the man have resigned their positions from the team as a "show of support" for the 2 cops who were suspended
Think about how crazy it is that just suspending officers pending investigation (not firing them) is enough oversight to get this many cops to resign from a team in protest. They literally think they should have carte blanche to crack peoples' skulls open and not have anyone ask a question.
These dirtbags are making the anti-cop protestors point for them.
#2 | POSTED BY DOC_SARVIS
There was one protest in Idaho perhaps? They had hundreds there. Not a single black person. The only black resident had moved away. But hundreds of people still came out to protest and show support.
President of the Buffalo police union says the two were just following orders.
Orders to push elderly men to the ground?
Dry run for seizing the vote by mail.
#11 | POSTED BY SNOOFY
Essentially yes. Because they can allege that the votes seized were being sent illegally. Then it will take substantial legal wrangling to get those released...which wouldn't happen until after the election.
POC: Black lives matter.
Karen and Chad: All lives matter!
Immigrants: So,,, we can come out of the concentration camps and stay??
Karen and Chad: NO!!!
Please note Trump's perceptible 'lean' when he's seen in public, usually wearing his signature blue suit and extra long necktie. That 'lean' is due to the 'lifts' in his shoes. Also notice that his dress shoes have higher than normal heels. They say that the only time that you ever see Trump at his actual height of 6'-1", is when he's on the greens wearing golf shoes. When he's in his suit, his height now reaches the 6'-3" level, which is what the White House lists as his official height, in stocking feet.
Yeah. This was a questionable editorial decision. Having a counterpoint oped would have been appropriate.
My girlfriend is obsessed with the Oklahoma City Thunder and with Disney World.
Nobody better tell her.
If I disappear for a stretch of time, I was kidnapped and am likely stuck in Orlando someplace.
There is constantly information warfare going on all around us. Whenever we see any news story that sparks our emotions, we should take a step back and be mindful that others are trying to manipulate our perceptions of reality and influence our behavior for their or someone else's benefit.
I'm wondering what the jurisdiction of the BOP is. In WA, Department of Corrections officers only have jurisdiction over DOC active inmates and those on probation, they don't have law enforcement authority on the common citizen. If a BOP officer injures a protester he should have no more legal authority than any other civilian and should be arrested and charged with assault.
I made a point yesterday about how even so-called "good cops" are most often bad cops. Part of this video demonstrates just that. One of the cops leans down to assist the old man whose skull they just cracked, and another cop pulls him away. The cop trying to help could have told the other cop to ---- off and continued assisting the old man. Instead he walked away. He is not a good cop.
"It is clear that we have no leadership at the top to deal with this systemic issue."
You're right. Somebody needs to hold a beer summit or something.
How many American rights, guaranteed by the Constitution, has Trump violated just in the past several weeks?
It is clear that we have no leadership at the top to deal with this systemic issue. It is not just one state or one city. It has been going on for far too long and only coming to light now because of the prevalence of personal video technology. The US needs a leader to address this other than to say the governors and mayor need to dominate the protestors.
If this was an issue effecting white people I would say his tone would be vastly different. Just look at BunkerBoy's approach to the armed protestors that broke the law and stormed the Michigan legislature. 180 degrees different. He just doesn't care about people of color since they will not vote for him.
It's the return of temporarily laid off employees. This isn't a surprise.
Tell me when we put a big dent in the 40 million jobless claims that were filed in total.
People are defending the NYT as a form of free speech or as a form of letting the opposition speak. Let me ask one question....
Should Jeffery Dahmer be allowed to run a recipe piece? I think everyone would say of course not..
OK, that establishes the notion that the NYT should not run just anything but should be judicious in what they run. Now we only differ on where to draw the line.
Thus, people who support running the Cotton Op Ed are telling us their opinions on where they would draw the line.
My point here is that people are suggesting that the NYT should not be even drawing that line, but the Dahmer example shows that that is not true. We all DO agree there needs to be a line. So please stop making this an argument over censorship. It is not. It's about WHERE to draw the line. And this op ed crossed that line.
While it can be argued that nuts like Cotton should be allowed to display their tin foil hattedness, to do so without an opposing piece is unconscionable.
There appears to be broadening consensus that Donald Trump is a tyrant. This explains ten straight days of demonstrations, as does moral outrage at the death of a helpless man.
Lafayette Park was not abandoned; Lafayette Park was refilled by American patriots. If Trump wants them gone again, he's going to have to order them attacked again.
If Trump was smart he would resign so that Pence could pardon him for any federal crimes he has committed, That is what Nixon did and he never went to prison.
As soon as it became known that the officers lied, they should have been fired.
They(He) should be charged with filing a false report as well. Hopefully such actions come with felony sanctions too.
"The police put out a statement that the man "tripped and fell" as if these morons that hide behind "serve and protect" are completely unaware of how many people have phones that record video"
Of interest is that Donald Trump denies that tear gas was used against the protestors in Lafayette Park, despite countless videos and first-person descriptions of the effects.
That 75 year-old man will likely never be the same. The punk cop who pushed him and claimed he fell is using a false narrative, a LIE, to justify a cowardly act. Notice no police officer helped him and police leadership moved them along when some tried. These police are the SOURCE, THE ROOT-CAUSE of the great unrest in our once great country. And WILL NOT be held fully accountable, EVER. MAGA
"Mr. Lopez Obrador, pay for this wall!" just isn't great oratory in my book.
I do like the imagery of Trump in prison. Right now it's the prison of his mind, the same experienced by many of the mentally ill. In his book "Chronicles, Volume One", Bob Dylan wrote of a mentally ill musician he met when first in New York, writing 'There was a fire between him and the rest of the world' (or something to that effect). Trump isn't there yet, but he has poured the gas on the ground and is playing with matches. Right now...
We hear a lot about mob mentality. When I watch videos like this one, I am struck by the fact that the cops themselves take on a kind of mob mentality when they are gathered together like this. They act as one and fail to see the humanity and individuality of the people they confront or are confronted by.
So Trump is selling MAGA masks and MAGA camo hats to his MAGA army, but the feds under his command are ceasing BLM masks?:
"The masks, reading "Stop killing Black people," were meant to quell the spread of the coronavirus, which has disproportionately affected Black Americans."
The day we'll know that the culture of policing has changed is the day when we see officers who witness one of their own brothers commit a cold blooded intentional assault arrest the perpetrator on the spot as they would if witnessing a civilian doing the same thing.
As with the officers who assisted Chauvin during his murder of George Floyd, those officers closest to the one who pushed that man must be charged with aiding and abetting in his assault.
There is no excuse for this shameful act.
Trump should do what Washington did.
Lead troops in to the rebellion.
Remember your history. The citizens of the US didnt like the law passed. So, they rebelled. They burned a house down.
So, Washington went out at the urging of some famous advisors (remember, the fight was a tax and one home burned).
With armed troops, Washington went in. Those they captured were charged with treason.
Didnt like the law and burned one house and tried for treason.
Yup. Come on Trump. Come out like Washington.
Oh, Washington told people not to aid or abet any of these treasonist people under a real threat (not a fearful dialogue)
Pelosi does not. That's a lie the right-wing keeps posting that gets ripped to shreds, that then gets repeated by another righty.
So basically you're full of ----.
Trump, ever a child of television's truncated presentation of history - as filtered through his stunted mind - and never a student of historical nuance, seems to think he's back in 1968. The past, as is often observed, is another country. But history doesn't "repeat itself" (although as Mark Twain observed it sure does rhyme a lot). This isn't "Groundhog Day." And it's not 1968, although there's similarity. That said, a larger portion of the populace seems to be sympathetic to the crowds - which are far more diverse than back in 1968.
On Wednesday afternoon, as I visited the site where demonstrators were gassed and manhandled, I wondered whether Trump's attempt at division might not be having the opposite effect.
The police reaction to being caught was, as always, to lie.
The video, which rapidly spread across social media, added to a growing body of videos from across the nation that showed officers responding to protests against police violence with more police violence. Fury among online supporters of the protests was heightened by the police department's initial claim that the man "tripped and fell," a description at direct odds with the video.The simple callousness of the thug wearing the dark blue uniform of a public service officer who pushed this 75 year old man to the ground is simple unfathomable. And then for the phalanx to continue marching forward - en mass - without a single individual even stopping for a second to check on his welfare after witnessing his head strike the concrete, with blood beginning to pool around his skull, is simply inexplicably inhumane and barbaric based upon the circumstances.
There is a vile, vicious poison running through far too many law enforcement officials all over this nation. They don't seek to keep peace, they revel in projecting state-sanctioned violence in service of whom exactly? What citizens want 75 year old men pushed to the ground for simply verbally engaging a law officer?
I'm waiting to see if they string concertina (razor wire) along the top of that new chain-link fence. If they do, it'll give the White House grounds the appearance of a medium security federal prison, perhaps a bit prophetic in it's symbolism.
@#1 ... His only hope is to play the Hail Mary's. ...
I've lowered my opinion to a 55% chance of being re-elected. Note that it is still better than 50-50.
There is a lot of time between now and Election Day, lots can happen.
Pres Trump has a lot of PAC money and effort to spend until November in order to change public opinion.
More from the cited article...
...The move comes just hours after Times editorial-page editor James Bennet defended publishing the piece, saying "it would undermine the integrity and independence of the New York Times if we only published views that editors like me agreed with."...
The NYTimes seems to be backing away from the op-ed due to fact-checking concerns (yeah, there were some issues in that area that did go against the NYTimes policy).
On the other hand, sometimes I think it is good to let the extreme Republicans, such as Sen Cotton, expose themselves for the analpores they are.