Slaughter the source? It's YouTube. I've seen "experts" claim a lot of things. Like there's a second shooter. You see that one? Why don't you waste some time pointing out what's wrong with it.

#152 | Posted by ClownShack

You didn't open the link, did you?

Unless you're claiming they staged those shots, you're just making more assertions than you're answering.

Which is a hallmark of conspiracy theories.

Facts are my preferred narrative.

What do you know, same for me. I've taken grief from all sides here for that very reason.

There's zero proof Trump was shot.

I haven't said otherwise.

Trump's behavior wasn't of a person who was shot, they were the action of a person posing for a photo op.

In the original thread I stated your former assertion. I've offered bemused counters to the multitude of conspiracies out there that your second assertion is the more likely conspiracy. Certainly more likely than Biden tried to kill him. I even posted a thread of my very own.

Since Trump was shot there's been ZERO photos of his "shot" ear. That shht would be on the cover of TIME.

Trump would be showing it off with pride.

For a braggadocio man, Trump is suddenly humble? Yea right.

Never stated otherwise.

Not sure if you're just looking to argue or what.

Please point to anything in the post you responded to was false....

#151 | Posted by BellRinger

You said none of that.

Glenn Beck has taught you well, young padawan.

as if it in any way diminishes the fact that a rank amateur was able to fire off multiple shots at a presidential nominee

If you have to lie, you've already lost.

Aaaaaand...you've lost.

Or laugh. Laughter is good for you.

You feeling okay?

I'd ask the same for you given your righty like hyperventilating response to a challenge to your preferred narrative.

As for youtube, don't slaughter the source. Pony up and point out what's wrong with it.

No wonder you're constantly mocked.

You seem to think you're some kind of expert.

Yet. All you got are opinions and nonsense.

#140 | Posted by ClownShack

LOL oh man LOL

Considering your first sentence isnt' even what I've said, well. I reiterate LOL.

I don't claim to be an expert. Never have on any topic. Just better informed than people making bad claims. I reiterate again, LOL.

You aren't even clear on what my position is. Again. L. O. L.

I'd ask if you're butthurt about something, butt...(see what I did there?)

You are projecting at this point.

You're using words you don't understand but have been taught should be used in situations like this at this point.

You think because you are a hack that everyone you disagree with are hacks too.

#139 | Posted by BellRinger

LOL I think because I've watched MAGA do the logical pretzels they've done and have watched the predictable flip of support or opposition of a position occur (by both sides) that you're just puling.

You try to jazz your version of talking points up to feel superior, but you're still just pushing talking points. I'm pretty sure your usual sources are actually geared towards your kind of archetype.

Oh yea. I'm the biggest Biden sycophant on the DR.

Thanks for continuing to prove how clueless you are.

#136 | Posted by ClownShack

LOL

It's funny that ballwasher thinks he'd be this concerned if it was Biden that had been shot at.

He'd be posting the stuff Clown is posting and Clown would be posting what ballwasher is posting.

Yeah, there was nothing like a tree branch in Crooks' line of sight, so it's hard to understand why the FBI is considering a bullet fragment as a possibility.

#120 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

There's always a possibility that they know something we don't. Something in the podium or a detail of the stage that wasn't easily seen. Something that was enough to cause fragmentation of the bullet or spalling (small pieces of material that fly off a hard subtance when impacted by a bullet).

How that would have hit his right ear, I have no idea.

JPW, you seem to know a lot about this topic, so could you answer my uninformed but honest question:

Wouldn't claim "a lot" of knowledge, merely some experience and a fair bit of study of the topic.

If it was a bullet fragment rather than a bullet, how/why did it become fragmented?

It would have had to contact something, and something rather stout, to break up. Check out the video I posted and use the scroller to find the part with the lumber test. The entry and exit holes are a clean .223 diameter hole for both 5.56 hits. It's not until you're hitting the concrete blocks or mild steel that you get fragmentation of the bullet.

Did the bullet just explode in midair without contacting anything?

Wouldn't be a viable round if it could just break up in mid air from nothing but the forces that ballistics is supposed to account for. Even an unstable flight wouldn't result in fragmentation, just tumbling.

Is that something that can happen? Or did it have to hit something in order to break/burst into fragments?

#118 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

It would have to hit something substantial at that range to fragment.

Think about a cardboard range target. The bullet pierces it and leaves a clean hole. If the round hits the outer edge of the target, it leaves a "nick". The cardboard target is only loosely secured and doesn't even MOVE.

#98 | Posted by Miranda7

I made this very point. Maybe it was on another thread.

But people seem to misunderstand how this stuff works.

One other scenario investigators are likely to explore: that the bullet, deadly but friable, might have fragmented after skimming Mr. Trump's ear.

LOL just LOL

none of us would have to endure all this uninformed drivel coming from the CVS Rambo's

#75 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses

You mean like the claim that a graze would take the entire ear off?

If a 5.56 round made contact with his ear at that range, he wouldn't have an ear ...

#68 | Posted by chuffy

I'm really tired of seeing this nonsense.

No. That's not how it works.

They hit really hard stuff and flatten out.

I've never seen a 5.56 flatten. I've seen them deform if it hits something relatively soft like soil or wood, but I've only ever seen them fragment (I never said disintegrate) when hitting harder surfaces like concrete or rock. Likewise, I've never seen them behave that way in a video.

Especially at the relatively short distance the shots were taken from.

#22 give me one post of yours that doesn't sound like it's written by a college freshman who just sat through a motivational speaker at orientation.

Because that's absolute garbage.

Was there such a concrete wall/floor present on the site?
imo, more information is needed.
#27 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Why? What will you do with it? Are you knowledgeable enough about ballistics to even understand what it means?

Everyone here making all these demands as if they're writing some expert report for a court hearing or something. Meanwhile, any info given on the topic will likely change their understanding or opinion little to nil because we already have audio evidence and recovered spent brass.

It is readily evident that Crooks fired 8 shots. If they haven't found 8 bullets, they need to keep looking. That scene should have remained secured until every bullet is found

You knock Wray for using the word shrapnel but then show yourself entirely clueless on the effects of an impact on a 5.56 round?

I haven't heard a peep about any bullet being recovered for forensic analysis ~ which would be normal investigative protocol.

If it hit the bleachers there probably wouldn't be much left to recover. Some jacket fragments and maybe a few pieces of the lead core. If they didn't impact anything, good luck knowing exactly where they went.

Best chance would be from one of the people who were shot but what, exactly, are you hoping to glean from it?

Really easy solution to that. Just need those medical records!
#17 | POSTED BY CHUFFY

Or even just the ear.

A good man is dead. 2 others were critically wounded.

Nobody is denying any of that. Could you be any more of a hyperventilating cooze?

Iran's leaders want Israel and the US wiped off the face of the earth.
But, that is somehow okay.

#3 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Your brain has been wiped off the face of the earth and yet you seem fine with it.