Better show? That no one watched

Random Hashtag Dude thinks ratings are the same thing as quality.

#FightThePower
#IsItInYet
#LetTheRabbitEatTrix

Anyone for an honest discussion?

How has the liberal agenda influenced society?

Do any liberals on this site see any negative influences on society caused by the liberal agenda?

I see plenty of good and bad by both liberals and conservatives.

However what problems do liberals see they are creating?

If this thread is just another GOP and Trump bashing series of posts by liberals, why even bother to pretend posting here has any intellectual value?

This is a shame because Chris Cuomo's show was one of the better ones on primetime cable news.

This article is B.S.

If anything, the abortion pill would take off and probably be available in any pharmacy. And you cant BAN abortion out right. The left is lying about that.

And I think most of America knows this, which is why no one is really listening to Liberals this time.

"Everyone should have those benefits... well maybe not aromatherapy but child care and good quality health care and at least two weeks of vacation and so on."

Child care should not be the responsibility of the company. It is your choice to have kids so any benefit they provide you is a benefit they are not providing to the employees that don't have kids. As for 'government', it is the same thing. We have no shortage of population so we don't need to subsidize people for having kids beyond all the programs that already exist.

"In other modern countries, they get those benefits just for showing up."

And in the longer term, those systems fail unless they are backed by a huge oil reserve or other natural resource which provides a huge per capita benefit vs. the rest of the world.

"They don't have to just show up... at a tech company, like I've been doing most every time I can summon the effort to go to work."

I think you are going to have to try harder if you want anyone to believe you worked at any tech company other than pets.com circa 1999...

"Have you seen what it's like to be poor? Have you seen the spam folder of a poor person's email account lately?"

I grew up poor. The fact they can even have a spam folder shows you how well off the 'poor' in the US live.

"It's pretty clear which party wants the bottom 80% of households to have it better, and which party wants the bottom 80% of households to have it worse."

Yes, the Democrats want to keep poor people poor and drag the middle class down too so they can have a stronger voter base. You can see this in all of their policies from destroying education to crippling US companies via regulations and new woke initiatives. You think our international competitors care about your woke initiatives and the fact that you think math is racist?

"Money is fungible. It doesn't care if you get it by renting apartments or inventing YouTube. But only one of those creates wealth. The other is parasitic."

Yes, renting a house creates wealth for the lessor and the lessee. It provides an essential good/service that allows people shelter so that they can do productive things with their time. YouTube is a vast destroyer of wealth on par with fidget spinners in providing mind numbing videos for people to watch rather than being productive.

#72

You don't have to worry about logging in since you're here 24/7 365.

"and they zoom in on the photo in the video"

Buffalo Bob was the judge in the Kyle Rittenhouse case? What an amazing coincidence!

"More workers means more productivity.
How does that result in wage suppression?"

Ah, the basic law of supply and demand. Heard of it?

"And who suppressed wages, exactly?"

More workers for a finite number of jobs means wages go down. Again, this is econ 101.

"You're saying workers, by showing up for work, suppressed their own wages?"

Yes. Take the French example as to a potential counter to this by limiting the work week forcing companies to hire more people to deal with the oversupply of labor.

"Does the person who pays the wage bear any responsibility for setting the wage at that level?"

No. Why pay a $20 for something that you can get for $10? Do you do that?

"Or is it all on the worker, since they accepted that wage voluntarily? Making it a personal choice and thus entirely on them."

For entry level, you are at the will of the market. Take the first job, increase your skills, and the market forces are much less impactful.

"Let's do outsourcing next, does the person who pays lower wages by moving jobs overseas have any personal responsibility for layoffs?"

Yes, they do. They need customers to punish them for that behavior.

"Do you live in a society that started sending far more people to prison in the 80s?
Where's the "personal responsibility" for the policy makers who did that?
#41 | POSTED BY SNOOFY"

Innocent people? No. Maybe a small number slip through the cracks but our jails are filled with people that broke the law.

"I'll ask again:
What is it about "personal responsibility" that caused worker pay to start lagging behind worker productivity in the 70s?
#40 | POSTED BY SNOOFY"

Starting worker wages? Yes, but I blame an explosion of women in the workforce leading to an oversupply of labor along with mass illegal immigration to suppress wages. All of this without the effects of the wind down in the Vietnam war bring back a ton of working age males and a restructuring of the economy away from manufacturing. If we had the same female workforce participation rate as the 70's and no illegal immigration, starting wages would be much higher.

But, that is either here nor there as this is only on starting wages. If you take personal responsibility as I outlined above, you will quickly go up in income so it won't really matter longer term. For instance, if you have a kid as a teen, it will be much harder for you to dedicate yourself to work in your early years to move up the ladder. Same as a stretch in prison.

Snoofy,

Everything else is less than ideal but has become more common.

Out of necessity society has learned to make the most of what you have to work with.

Snoofy,

"Wait, are you saying a nuclear family is better than the alternative."

Yes...but more importantly a mother and father (good ones..not just warm bodies) are preferable.

Attributed to Senator Dole years ago: At a gala 3 former presidents were lined up for a receiving line, Nixon, Carter and Reagan. He said, "there they are, See no evil, say no evil, and .... evil."

This is probably true.

75% of the bad press Biden gets is contrived, often reporting of bulls&^% statements from GOP traitors whining about energy costs or bidenflation or other BS.

OR It just shows you how poorly Biden is doing, that even the sycophants are having a hard time saying anything positive about him.

Which is more likely?

He could have handled all these situations better with a little planning. But this is what I expect from Senators, they just don't make good presidents, but I will admit Obama wasn't too bad but he wasn't in the Senate too long.

But its all trash anyhow, why would anyone watch or listen to MSM, other than to fulfill their cognitive biases.

I can't help but notice you didn't say it's wrong. ~Snoofy

I couldn't help but notice you didn't say he was wrong either.

I go back to this Elon Musk phrase.

Who wrote the software running in your head? Are you sure you actually want it there?

#CutTheCord
#PollsAreStatisticalBiases
#BeFree

This is hilariously stupid. But you all keep living in your echo chamber.

I'm sure all members of the family owning ARs is as American as apple pie..

Well one of them has a Tommy Gun and one maybe an Uzi so at least there's some diversity.

Seems very common in tech & FAANG-worker circles.

As a former F, and current G I can say for a fact this is correct; except for foreign workers (Chinese, Indian) they take marriage and children seriously, hence the Cupertino School district being so competitive. Which also is why, in general, they can afford the homes in silicon valley. DIWK ;-)

This is in reference to the simplistic takeaway that a decline in traditional nuclear family statistic is our culture.

A valid observation, I would argue that all culture values have roots in the family unit; ergo, less families, the culture will suffer/fragment.

An easy and faux fix would be for older generational households to either split up, to adopt or foster child(ren) so that they can be counted as a nuclear family unit >:).

Incentives is the issue IMO, why would an older person (>50) want to raise children again? What is the incentive to have single parent households, why are DINKs not having kids? Family leave? Child support enforcement? idk ..

Well, I would also argue that it doesn't have to be a man and woman to have a nuclear family. Just that it requires two people with a shared interest, namely wanting to raise kids. That being said, I see no reason, to be married other than to nurture children. You make an interesting observation, multigenerational families are even better.

As a thought experiment, perhaps once a society goes down that path it can't go back, how do single parent children even understand what a two parent household is like.

#FamilyGreaterThanGovernment

I would also amend my argument about income inequality, it all begins with parental inequality which begets income inequality.

-What exactly is in decline in our "culture"?

Civility, in the big picture sense due to income inequality.

Trump is the most decadent figure in American politics,

No doubt, so then you agree its declining, I would add the Media as well, along with Psaki.

Cultural decay? ~Twinpack

Exactly, that would be a sign that its in decay. There is nothing wrong with what they are doing, I support it But people wanting to escape into their little fiefdoms, as opposed to being part of something that is a sign of decay. If it weren't decaying they wouldn't need/want to isolate themselves culturally.

What we're actually experiencing is a demographic/societal shift where we have fewer married couples with children under 18 living in the same home

We are experiencing more than that, we are seeing "single" parents having more kids, and married couples having less kids. It creates inequity.
This line of separate paths is nothing more than "class" lines. Poor people are having more kids, and aren't raising them to standard. Whereas Rich people are teaming up creating a couple of incomes (DINK if memory serves me right)

Idiocracy comes to mind.

It's funny how these comments have devolved into bashing the Republican party..

As if there are any Blue Dog Democrats for Republicans to compromise with..

Idiots.

"Abortions for some and miniature American flags for others." - Bob Dole

"You comments are usually much better than that..."

I think this is fascinating.

First, it's a "state being developed for indigenous people who themselves are not indigenous. People of African ancestors are as much occupiers as Caucasian or Asian Americans.

The thing that I found most interesting is the voluntary nature of their socialism. Typically, socialists aren't so much about building something as they are taking what others have already built. Typically, they don't view the implimentation of socialism as something people should have a choice in.

loggers don't harvest "understory", they contribute to it

I don't understand?

I hate that loggers harvest so much, looking at satellite images between decades is distressing. That being said, I have seen some good things in Washington.

But as Mao_Content points out there are things that can be done to mitigate the size of fires. I would add the immediate extinguishing of fires is also an unfortunate practice.

#StopTheInsanity!

Not a fan of Nunes, but certainly seems like he's correct.

Not only the cycles he mentions, but the creation of extremist.

Oneironaut you're writing checks your body can't cash. Fair warning

ONENAUT is still welcome at the orgies.

He doesn't even need lube.

"What did Trump do? Oh he tweeted mean things about the press."

If that's your characterization of Trump saying "The Media Is The Enemy Of The American People" then you are in fact a Trump fan.

Is this still America?

Where the frickin frock am I?

He is still walking around free after his threatening US senators?

He should be harassed by the DOJ until he quits promoting domestic violence and harassment of others.

At a minimum he should be having a conversation with the secret service. Each time he does this. Until he stops.

We need to stop acting like this kind of behavior is ok. You cannot yell fire in a crowded theater.

You cannot continue to incite violence and still call it free speech.

When is speech so violent and dangerous that it can be prohibited by the government?

Looks to me like Republicans and Trumptilians in particular are crossing the line on a daily basis. Stop tolerating it America. We are better than this. At least I would like to think we are.

Maybe we aren't.

I'm a gun owner and this type of stuff makes me sick.

When or if your identity is ever tied this closely to anything you should seek help.

Cultural decline as evidenced by a preoccupation with weaponry, conspiratorial cults, and fascist messiahs?

All of Trump's thoughts and feelings are tied up in his own needs. He was president of a country he never gave a sh-- about.

Is this the moral decay that started in the 1960's?

Congratulations, Republicans, you built that.

so is this why the market has really been tanking lately? reports like this were leaked and more of this is expected?

#2 | POSTED BY EBERLY

My theory is the rumored capital gains tax changes coming in 2022, causing some large holders in individual names selling in the week ending Dec3, with the intention to reallocate in the opening week of Jan3 (to avoid the 30day wash sale penalty).

Funny how the least successful among us have all the answers - yet, were completely incapable of better their lot in life. Of course, it is 'the man' or 'the system' holding them back.
#62 | POSTED BY SKR1994

^
You just described Trump voters to a tee.

"Yes, they do. They need customers to punish them for that behavior."

Moments earlier:

"No. Why pay a $20 for something that you can get for $10? Do you do that?"

LOL dude.

You're incoherent, full of knee-jerk responses, incapable of sustaining a narrative for even a single post.

The seeds of our problems were sown in 1981 when Reagan took office. Deregulation, cutting taxes, ballooning defense budget, union-busting, unbridled wall street, etc. All exploded during Reagan's time in office. Their concepts have destroyed the middle class. You know what destroyed the nuclear family? Income. You have to be a doctor or lawyer or investment banker to live on one income nowadays. You know why people aren't having a lot of children and marrying late? Cause they can't afford to. Not because people suddenly got decadent, not because people are selfish, not because of a single mother gets some income from the state, not because a few liberals try to educate you about institutional racism. Because a college graduate nowadays makes a pittance compared to his debt, let alone buy a house. It takes years to reach even a modicum of stability. And that is for a college graduate. god forbid you have to live as a HS graduate. So stop blaming women for wanting more out of life or the poor for their poverty. Stop blaming liberals for trying to provide opportunities or a safety net to those with nothing. Start blaming those that have transferred the wealth to the 1%. and I guarantee you those weren't liberals.

Here is another little truth bomb for you.

The American dream is dead. Upward mobility in America is dead

Do any liberals on this site see any negative influences on society caused by the liberal agenda?

Nope

Woke culture? Except for a few on the extremists, woke culture is about respect. Respect for the marginalized, respect for the powerless, respect for the downtrodden. Stop listening to regressives who lie about woke culture.

The Environment? We are in a life and death struggle that regressives refuse to acknowledge

Healthcare? For profit health care is evil and certainly not a liberal agenda item

Welfare? Funny how regressives blame the poor for their lot in life when every other developed nation can somehow have a functioning a safety net

Income Inequality? You really going to blame that on liberals?

Women's rights? Blaming women for the collapse of society is simple scapegoating. Women are entitled to every single opportunity in life that a man has. Period Full Stop (and that covers abortion, sexual liberation, education, etc.)

Here's a little truth for you.

We are never ever ever ever going back to the 1950's. It ain't gonna happen. The time that is held up as the perfect decade was ONLY so because after WW2, America was the sole great western power. Japan and Europe were rebuilding, the USSR was isolating, China was emerging from the middle ages. We had no true competition. and oh yeah, it kinda sucked to be a POC, or gay or a woman during that time.

The world will never be like that again, so stop thinking it can

Just more proof that Mr. Secondary Syphilis paid somebody to do his college work; he has to be one of the stupidest people ever to occupy the WH. He is the perfect fit to lead today's GQP, a fascist party of morons, conspiracy theorists, racists, and homophobes intent on destroying America.

Clown nails it.

90% of the bad press Trump got was earned.

75% of the bad press Biden gets is contrived, often reporting of bulls&^% statements from GOP traitors whining about energy costs or bidenflation or other BS.

People like Boaz (fascists) always look for a scapegoat. Always. In this case, he's scapegoating a huge enough swath of Americans so as to raise the alarm that "The Enemy Is Inside The Wire!"

Meanwhile, Trump is the most decadent figure in American politics, and Boaz thinks he's our best shot at ending our cultural decay.

Decadent:
disapproving : having low morals and a great love of pleasure, money, fame, etc.

The Hillbilly Renaissance is a real thing. The ignorant, the violent, the socially inept, the paranoid, the emotionally and intellectually superficial have always been with us. It's just that now cynical people have realized they can tap into all of that low-rent craziness and rake in cash and power.

The article is about Black Communists, but sadbomber has socialists under his bed.

Anything "produced" is biased and trash.

Think about how the news arrives in your world, and there's a high degree of likelihood it was produced, as in organized, checked, researched (often a weak point), prepared, and presented. It's all produced.

Massie is painfully thick, even for a Trumpfist jackass.

Not a fan of Nunes, but...

I see a pattern developing.

#EffingLoser
#SockPuppet

Better show? That no one watched

Random Hashtag Dude thinks ratings are the same thing as quality.

#FightThePower
#IsItInYet
#LetTheRabbitEatTrix

"I ain't a Trump fan, but..."

That's pretty much the Lewzer fan mating call right there.

Not sure this is entirely legal...?

Legal? Lots of things are happening that aren't legal, so long as you are on the right team its AOK.

I have no issue with this.

If you want communism, America will allow you to try it.

#Freedom

LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP!

"And you cant BAN abortion out right. The left is lying about that."

It was banned for a century. No reason we can't ban it again.
Many Southern states have laws in place that will automatically ban abortion the moment Roe gets overturned.