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Like it or not, this is starting to look less like a protest and more like a war zone.

When people aren't just chanting, but actively interfering with arrests, blowing whistles to warn targets, swarming agents, and escalating every encounter, it stops being "free speech" and becomes street conflict.

And once that dynamic takes over, it's only a matter of time before someone gets killed. Not that it's "inevitable," but because chaos plus adrenaline plus weapons always ends the same way.

Instigators don't get to pretend they're innocent when they're deliberately turning every enforcement action into a confrontation.

I don't accept the idea that agents are "out of control" when shots are fired. These are trained professionals operating in a high stakes environment, and when they use force, it's because their training tells them they're dealing with a lethal situation. We may not like the outcome, but this isn't random panic. It's what happens when you mix a volatile crowd, armed resistance and nobody backs down. These agents are trained to kill. It's part of their job description if and when it's needed. I'm not endorsing violence, but like I said, this is becoming a war zone.

The way it went down, it looks like they weren't trying to send him to the hospital. Whatever their intent, they wanted him dead, not wounded

This is exactly how a city spirals. Crowds get bolder, law enforcement gets jumpier, and the gap between "order" and "violence" disappears.

If people really want to prevent more deaths, the answer isn't more hysteria. It's de-escalation and discipline and consequences for anyone who crosses the line into obstruction or violence.

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#16 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-01-26 12:53 PM

When I went into the Border Patrol in 1992, minimum requirements were 4 years of a combination of pertinent education or qualifying experience. The Border Patrol Academy was 17 weeks. Following academy graduation was 6 months of structured field training including 1 day per week of classroom post-academy training reinforcing law, operations, and Spanish. A Conduct and Efficiency (C&E) evaluation was done every two weeks to track trainees' performance and progress. A final examination was given at the 10 month mark, after which you still had to complete two more months riding with experienced agents until the probationary year was completed. My academy class entered with 50 students, I don't remember the exact number but just over 30 of us completed the probationary year. That was about average, I think somewhere between 60-70% was the norm.

By the time I was a Field Training Officer in 1996, prior experience requirements were already being reduced and background checks sped up to comply with hiring mandates. By the time I became a Supervisor in 1998, incident rates were rising including allegations of excessive force, rights violations, and internal policy violations. Then following 9/11 and the creation of DHS, we were taken out of DOJ, which at least made an effort to investigate and take enforcement actions, and made part of the DHS/ICE. And the agency just spiraled into a disorganized mess. I resigned in 2007, probably 5 years later than I should have.

#43 Flag: The coward boaz rears his ugly head again; is so thin-skinned he actually plonked A_Friend

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