-Yale Law DEI grad JD Vance

really?

-I dont recall you having this much to say about MTG and cohorts shouting out/drowing out Biden with their boos and screaming during SOTU. Why do you suddenly care this much?

That's a fair point.......maybe because I didn't watch those SOTU you're referencing.

And I don't care any more now than before. Admittingly, I'm commenting on it because I watched it.

Perhaps it appears as though I'm hammering dems for behavior I'm giving a pass to republicans......that is not what I am doing.

So........I'll shut up now.

-Vietnam destroyed Johnson and he was a good president otherwise.

You're dismissing how much passing Civil Rights hurt him and the entire Democratic party in the South.

-More people care about MASS MURDER and Ethnic Vainglory than you "Centrists" think.

we're gonna agree to disagree. In a conflict where the hero and the villain aren't clearly spelled out........folks struggle to find a side to take.

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Trump framed the speech to shine a light on dems he knew wouldn't stand no matter what. He referenced guest after guest that it would look bad if dems didn't stand and applaud them.

I don't know if it's going to impact upcoming elections. we'll see.

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Fair point. I'm not clutching pearls. I never clutched them including when Joe Wilson yelled "you lie".

-I remember how Biden was treated at his last SOTU

Does anyone else?

This isn't a complaint about how Trump was treated. It's about what should be expected behavior at a SOTU.

Trump wouldn't care if paint balls where shot at the next president if he agreed with the shooter.

But that seems to be the theme here.......---- the rules, ---- etiquette......just as long as the right person is being shot at.

-They judged, correctly, that men - men of color and white - would be turned off enough by the "pro-trans" Harris that they voted for Trump, or didn't vote at all.

I agree with that a hundred times over the notion this was impacted by Harris's stance on Gaza.

Why is the DNC saying this? Is this a better excuse than the truth? The truth that they were outplayed strategically by Trump over the trans issue?

Effete is simply applying his passionate stance on Gaza to everyone else. He believes people care more about it than they do.

-Open Hostility is better Cuz' it keeps it Real.

During the State of the Union?

The State of the Union speech isn't required by the constitution. reporting on the state of the union is required but he is invited by the House to come and deliver in in person.

I don't care about the not standing up and I don't care if the president has to tolerate some interruptions. We interrupt him plenty of times for applause and he's fine with that so being interrupted with disagreement is fine as well as far as I'm concerned.

I'm merely pointing out when Joe Wilson yelled "you lie" that made his wiki page and dominated news for quite a while. At the time, that was a major breach of etiquette.

Omar can "Keep it real" 24/7 all she wants....but it's not unreasonable to point out that there should be limits on it during a SOTU speech.

The DNC is saying this was the largest issue with swing voters in swing states?

Ohio, North Carolina, Wisconsin, etc.....those states have voters who cared that much about that issue?

"We live in a different time"

we certainly do.

A time where such an interruption isn't a breach of etiquette any longer.

It certainly was when Obama was interrupted.

Gee....I wonder how this will go next time a Democratic party president delivers a state of the union........

Those 2 women who were chirping at him during his speech........remember when a congressman once said "you lie" at Obama?

My goodness....that was the news for weeks and weeks afterward.

Those 2 women won't even barely make their hometown newspapers with that much less the national news.

There was a point there when I wondered if the dems who no-showed were better off.

I watched it on ABC....they showed the same folks not standing up when we were honoring soldiers, families of folks killed, etc.....and it showed the dems stoically sitting there and them Trump shaking his head at them.

These people are crazy ... ...

I don't mind what he's saying.

I just wish it were true

I don't see the connection to this "stumble" to any upcoming election.

-You've been blowing too many truckers.

Meaning if he cut back....just a little......the sores will heal?

-[1] He's a dem, and [2] promised freebies, which is very appealing to dems.

That's not as original as you might think.

I think this guy won because the republican candidate was so damn weak the democrats figured they could run a socialist and still win.

And they were right......

If this happened in Texas with republicans raiding a public employee pension fund the outrage would be through the roof.......

Isn't it sort of ironic that democrats are raiding a public employee pension fund to remedy their deficit while republicans are trying to protect it?

Republicans voted to protect a public employee pension fund............

-IF these clowns can't divert a thread to Abortion, Trans, or Immigrants.... they'll just go away.

You forgot guns.....but you're right.

but remember when niceville, Lisa, Zat, Danni, etc....and the abortion threads back in the day?

Big hardliners on abortion....one way or the other.

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LOL....nice one, ----.

-Yall might want to deal with that first....

For Christs sakes...there is nothing to deal with.

I really wish everyone would stop making this a soap opera with a "who dunnit" theme.

That's all this is to most of you. It's nothing more to you than sleuthing "Who Shot JR".

I know very little about English Royalty and their history. I tune out any news about it when it comes on and I don't watch much in the way of series or movies that are centered around the royal family.

I view members of the royal family as folks who live their entire lives with a bottomless pocket, very little in the way of expectations or hard work, thousands of hours available for "recreation" as they aren't expected to really earn an income or build anything.

Maybe that's an unfair perception of them but it doesn't surprise me to learn some of them would be connected to Epstein and these awful activities.