"you have higher expectations for someone like me, than you do for someone like Trump."

when it comes to honestly and rhetoric?

I do

-I believe the problem is you consider yourself to be wealthy and therefore you feel attacked.

I don't know really but I'm wealthy on this place every time Social security comes up.

I really don't think most Americans with little or no net worth can conceptualize what wealthy means.

Which is what allows the politicians and pundits to get away with what you said in 217.

And Corky isn't wrong either. too many dumb dumb dumb Americans out there.

Why?

Because of what you just did there in 214. You demonized anybody who's wealthy.

And the argument for why tax rates should increase can't just be "because they can afford it" which is what you said about Mellon.

It needs to be specific, targeted and it needs to spell out why it's probably good for even those who's taxes go up.

but you can't get there if the starting point is to demonize anybody better off than you.

which is really all you're doing. Middle income folks on both sides should come together on this issue.....but they can't when stones are being thrown at folks for simply being better off.

-Was always available.

in the late 40s and 50s?

where? It took a while for that infrastructure to be rebuilt from the ruins they were in.

-when auto manufacturers decided it's better for their profits if they underpaid Mexicans to do the work

without looking I would say it was late 60s and 70s when that process began.....and what was the top marginal rate when these companies started this?

You guessed it.......90%.

"Taxing the wealthy 90% funded the nation's development for decades."

put that on a bumper sticker and try to get ANY democrat to sell that idea.

-This guy having 130 million discretionary dollars available should be a sign the rich do not need tax cuts.

agreed

The rest of the stuff you posted is probably why we can't get anywhere on this issue. It's also why democratic politicians don't take you seriously on this. You want something but you really can't say what it is you want.

-Don't play dumb.

You're not.

Got it. not serious about it.

"I said America was at it greatest when we taxed the wealthy at 90%"........and I finished the sentence for you. America was at it's greatest when we taxed the wealthy at 90%, and we denied minorities civil rights....and we kept women in the kitchen....and we had almost no global competition for those wages.

Those aren't deflections. You're under the impression that the marginal tax rate is the only economic issue that impacted how great things were.

Women and minority's rights were also economic issues that impacted those results you're so proud of not to mention the global market for labor.

-Here's an idea, let's raise taxes on the wealthy first,

I'm not against that but you have to first ask yourself if you're serious with that.

Who is "wealthy"? and how much of a tax increase? If you're serious then you should be able to answer that in about 10 seconds........surely, you're not serious about the 90% stuff.....

-It's literally on this thread. Scroll up.

couldn't find it. I don't care the % anyway but just saying I couldn't find it.

-Randy Fine has called for an investigation into the citizenship status of NYC mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani

which Randy knows will turn up exactly nothing. He's not trying to strip him of his citizenship. He's powerless to do so.

He didn't even say he wants to strip him of his citizenship.......but called for an investigation.....which nobody is going to do.

He's trying to move voters off the center.........

-He doesn't care enough to read the articles.

Obviously, I did and obviously, you didn't.

-Too stupid to recognize sarcasm?

not at all.

You, OTOH, are too stupid to recognize the substance of this argument between clown and myself.

And here's a hint.....it's not a sign of dementia. It's a sign you're just stupid.

-That will only work on people who were already not voting for him.

They obviously disagree with you. They think there are a lot on the fence and this will push them over.

Women should be birth givers and home makers while men run the world.

#193 | Posted by ClownShack

Obviously you believe that. Otherwise you wouldn't be clamoring on multiple times about how great life was in this country when women were used exactly that way.

-It's pointing out that if the demographic of your protest is all older white women(calling them Karens was unfair)

"Karen" is an open definition of whatever kind of female one doesn't like.

If it's pro-life conservatives screaming for abortion restrictions? Karen

If it's pro-choice liberals screaming for abortion rights? Karen

It's whatever you don't like.

That's why they are referred to as Karens here.....so the right loathes them.

"You need to be told why private money funding our military is a dangerous proposition?"

Private money is just that until it's not private any longer.

but private money does fund our military.

Private money funds politicians who write those checks

Private money funds the technology that ends up in the hands of our military.

Private money issuing low/no interest payday loans to members of the military? That's what USAA does.

Now, outright paying the salaries of our military with private money? Yeah....easy to see the slippery slope there.

"To hold this position one must willfully stupid or evil"

why?

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That's what I thought. I wasn't totally sure but it's in the neighborhood of where I was going with it.

Make the protestors a demographic the right doesn't care for.

Karens.

"it makes me very emotional".

#175 | Posted by donnerboy

So much emotion....but plenty of time.

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It's the premise of the thread. That white Karen's showed up and that's it.

It's not my argument.

But nobody is questioning it. Apparently the No Kings rally wasn't represented by the usual factions of the left one would expect.

Why is that?

Nice headline. LOL

they aren't trying to strip him of citizenship. They are trying to fool NY voters into believing he isn't an American.

Wrong...but it's not "striping him of citizenship".

"Gay marriage threatened-approximately 20 million gay people in America ..."

Did any of them show up to this rally?

The argument is they didn't.

"you are outraged over nothing real, jeff."

You see, others make this accusation.

Let me guess ... ... .you pretend to care about that?

-Bev projecting his lack of giving any ---- about just about anything ever?

It only bothers the expressers of actual fake outrage.

Not the legitimate outrage.

Of course it's never "nobody" unless it's a small group of individuals here.

But phonies are phonies regardless.

Nobody is outraged over this

There is only faux outrage. People only wish they could muster up legitimate outrage over this.