- Ditch part where you they hate in the Other.

Never heard that part.

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I mucked that up. But when you hate on gays and say they should be stoned like the Bible says that's an example of Christianity "hating on the Other".

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Eternity seems to be more an observation of the universe as we know it.

#90 | POSTED BY CORKY

Here is the main flaw with Eternal Life as I see it.

If A God created the universe then He/She also created Time.

If God created the universe and time then He/She would necessarily have to be from outside of the universe and time.

Therefore if you were to be with god outside the universe and outside of time then there is no eternity. There would also be no Now. Which is what we currently live in.

The meaning of Life is Life. To have Life there has to be death. Thats the rule. The universe is full of them.

And Life and Death do not have to have any meaning. They only have the meanings that we humans give to it with our feeble consciousness.

"Islam seems more real."

They are all "real".

The strange part to me is they are all trying to talk about the SAME thing. With words. In different languages coming from different cultures. But what they are talking about we have no words for. So they try the best they can with what they have and know at the time and place they find themselves in. So when I call something a myth that is not necessarily a bad thing. Myths are ways of saying things and ideas that cannot be put into words.

AND YET THEY OPPOSE (and even fight) OTHER RELIGIONS.

One of the problems with religion especially organized religions is they do not always adapt well to changes.

And things are changing more rapidly than ever.

I am not Islamic either but I personally love Sufi stories that tell of the love of God with their short stories.

If you are interested a good example would be the book Essential Sufism by James Fadiman

the message of love and hope and eternal life from most of the world's Christians is Fake News, but it's just as legit a philosophical position as any other.

Love the message of live and hope. Keep that.

Ditch part where you they hate in the Other.

And the "eternal Life" thing ? You all really need to work on that one.

The everlasting bliss of contemplating our navels in the presence of the divine is not the same as "eternal life" or even eternity itself. Campbell discusses this way better than I can.

Life is a very interesting thing and is still a complete mystery to us. But I doubt you will be ever "alive" again after you die.

Unless reincarnation is true and boy howdy will there be a lot of egg on the True Believers faces then!

Being "saved" is just being accepted as a full fledged member of whatever cult (culture) you are a member of or are considering joining.

I have been saved (while I was a child) by the Christian church but I am not interested in being a member of the Christian church.

So am I still "saved" or not?

Do know. Don't care.

Re 82

Just watched it again.

The whole series is available on Amazon prime right now.

In Joseph Campbell's monomyth, or Hero's Journey, being "saved" is a symbolic event, mirroring the death and rebirth found in traditional initiation rites. It is the culminating moment of the hero's transformation, where they are rescued from the brink of total failure to return to the ordinary world as a new person.

Parallel to initiation rites:

In many ancient initiation rituals, a symbolic death and resurrection is central to the process of becoming an adult. An initiate may undergo rituals that simulate death to their old life, after which they are "reborn" with a new, mature identity.

The hero's transformation:

By facing the supreme ordeal and surviving, the hero is saved from their old, uninitiated self. They emerge transformed, gaining new insights and power.

"How is it possible for me to be saved?"

Joseph Campbell has a very interesting take on this.

Being "saved" has as many definitions as there are religions.

The initiation rites amid many cultures is a form of being "saved".

You are "saved" in these cultures by becoming a man (or a woman) and putting away childish things.

In the maga cult you are "saved" by shamelessly worshipping Trumpy and supporting every thing he says and every heinous crime he commits.

I think turning water into wine is pretty cool.

#73 | POSTED BY ZED

You'd love Napa Valley then.

They turn water into wine at least once a year.

That is perhaps one of the stupidest comments I've seen in awhile.

You should read what you write!

Jesus would never have empathy for sin, which is probably the area of dispute here. What is "sin"?

How stupid is this!? Your God does not get to define what a sin is for me. Only my God gets to do that.

I'd rather pull weeds than read more of this hatred from people who claim they don't hate.

Best go pull those weeds then and quit whining. You are accomplishing nothing here that's for sure.

And to the woman Jesus said, "go and sin no more".

#172 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Or just stop believing in a Bronze Age myth and you won't be a "sinning" no more!

With all of the people disappearing and the news completely silent the end of democracy will barely be a gurgle.

POSTED BY REDLIGHTROBOT

The revolution Purge will NOT be televised.

As the network that would normally air it will be afraid of getting canceled by the Dictator-In-Chief (DIC).

However you can go the Kristi Noam Show and watch her shoot puppies and take down the evil immigrants and their supporters the radical Libs there.

Don't be this guy.

#167 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Did you know foreign agitators can easily be designated as terrorists by Dear Leader?

Don't be THAT guy.

Good luck stopping it now.

There is already too much money at stake.

And Trumpy is all for corruption in his own government. As long as they are being corrupt for him.

Re 14&15

You are just going to confuse the One Trick Hummer by posting so many facts at once. It will take him a week to read it all. If he bothers to read any of it.

Charlie Kirk did not debate. He did crowd work. No moderator, he controlled the mic, a heavily prepared 31 year old vs random college students responding to the verbal equivalent of clickbait.

Exactly.

Charlie Kirk was just an online troll who took his show on the road.

"What one party does, so will the other...it's only a matter of time."

You really are just a One Trick Pony aren't you?

Both parties are not the same. This is just another maga lie.

The lie goes kinda like this:

Since everyone in politics is corrupt and ineffectual, you might as well vote for the corrupt and ineffectual candidate who will troll on your behalf, espousing your culture-war arguments, because at least you will have the satisfaction of driving the other side crazy.

This is the lie you want democrats and liberals to believe.

Because if liberals come to believe that both parties are the same then there's no point in voting, then a small margin of committed ideologues is enough to swing an election rightward.

And, of course, this is exactly what has happened so if a lie works keep doing it right Mr Both Parties are the Same?

"President can't designate Domestic Terrorist groups.."

-OneIronNut

President can't designate Domestic Terrorist groups ...

Now there's a post that didn't age well.

Gonna come back and tell us how the "system" works again foreign agitator?

"What exactly is a MAGA?"

If you have to ask you probably are one. If you don't know who the racist bigot is in your family it's you.

If you wear a maga hat and self identify as maga then you are definitely maga. If you argue for and support maga ideologies but don't wear the hat yet then you are a wannabe maga maroon.

Once the "civil war" and the Purge is declared and you come to my "foxhole" wearing a "maga" hat I'll plug ya right between the eyes.

GuaranGodDamnteed. So you better figure it out quick friend.

And, so did Charlie Kirk, and the Left killed him for it

#6 | Posted by Maverick

The "left" didnt kill anyone.

His name is Tyler Robinson and he represents and speaks only for himself. And maybe a few friends on discord who were as surprised as the rest of us.

He is from a Mormon family and is not even a registered voter.

And if the truth be told (it will someday but not by this President obviously) he came from the same warped online world as Charlie Kirk. So if he "represents " anyone it's the people from that community.

I do believe that Biden would have had the power and right to overrule the DOJ and release the files.

Certainly. President Biden could have interfered in and tried to influence an ongoing FBI investigation.

Trumpy has proved that a President could do that many times over already.

That does not make it right that he should have done so.

No one should act like Trumpy acts as President because Trumpy is a terrible example of how to act as a President.

do you Americans even understand how your system works?

#18 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Gosh. I dunno.

Why don't you tell us how it works Comrade. You being a foreign agitator here in the free world on a work VISA should make you the expert eh?

And it's not even 69!

Yet.

Teslas are.

I swear when I drove one it was like I was driving a big ole Iphone.

Trump should direct the DOJ to release the files, which you admit is wrong and outside the scope of the president's responsibilities, but since he doesn't give a ---- anyway....then do it.

Trump already has no respect for norms or the rule of law. But. He does not need to DO anything but tell his people to release the files and get out of the way.

And besides you know as well as I do that Trumpy's the one who fanned the flames of multiple conspiracies and made multiple campaign promises to release the files in order to get himself elected. Biden promised no such thing. The onus is now on him.

So because Trump is a crook and Biden wasn't....

Sure. Can't disagree with that.

But. You ask why Biden did not release the files.

Because Biden respected the rule of law and did not conspire with the DOJ like they were his personal lawyers. He let the DOJ investigations take their natural course. As he should have.

Why don't you ask a reasonable and valid question like why didn't democrats demand their release during the Biden administration?

Let me introduce you to Donnerboy.

He's not done making excuses for Biden.

#46 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Let me introduce you to reality.

Reminding you that it's not normal for the President to conspire with the DOJ like this administration does is not an "excuse".

Which of course why it's NOT a "fair question".

Do try harder.