"In four years, you don't have to vote again. We'll have it fixed so good, you're not going to have to vote."

- DJT

If "fair" why is California which has an independent commission more gerrymandered than the Texas proposal?

#11 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Because Commie agitator, all states are "gerrymandered".

But California is gerrymandered by an independent commission and not by the party in power who wishes to retain power by cheating.

Welcome to the open society of America. Now stop ------- with us by trying to create more division and chaos with your weak ass propaganda and lies and help us make the world a better place.

Re 22

Lying liars and the lies they tell.

Q: Who appoints the State Auditor?

A: The Governor of California

#20 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG AT 2025-08-04 09:26 PM | FLAG:

So the Californian governor intentionally weakens his political party in the state because.... ?

#21 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

Nice try. The Governor has nothing to do the redistricting and does nothing to either strengthen or weaken his own party.

The governor only selects the auditor and the auditor RANDOMLY selects eight from the list of approved applicants and they choose the rest.

California's state legislative and congressional districts are drawn by the California Citizens Redistricting Commission. The commission was established after the passage of California Proposition 11, or the Voters First Act, in 2008 for state legislative districts, and Proposition 20 in 2010 for congressional districts. The commission consists of 14 members: five Democrats, five Republicans, and four independents or voters affiliated with another party.

Members of the commission are selected through a rigorous process. Initial and supplemental applications, due in late 2019, were reviewed by the Applicant Review Panel (ARP). After selecting and conducting interviews with the 120 most qualified candidates by May 2020, the ARP narrowed the pool down to 60, divided evenly across party affiliations.The Legislature had until the end of June to remove up to 24 applicants. The State Auditor then randomly selected the first eight commissioners from the remaining list, and these eight themselves selected the final six.

In addition, in California the People have an input into the process.

Re 30

I gave you the current California law. California tried to set an example for the rest country. But Republicans with their MAGA maroons just refuse to play fair.

Looks like a clear case of FAFO to me.

"and I gave you what's really happening, acting exactly like Republicans."

Acting BECAUSE of republicans. Republicans have been gaming the system for years. And then accusing democrats of "rigging" elections when those republicans inevitably lose.

When the President is above the law then there are no more "norms".

Democrats should have taken the gloves off years ago.

For many Democrats, this moment is an inflection point in the party's Trump-era identity crisis " one that could determine whether "fighters" or "folders" carry the torch into 2028.

The Texas state House issued civil arrest warrants for the Democrats who fled the state, though the warrants are only enforceable inside Texas.

Trumpy should send in the Marines!

That will learn em.

Why it matters: The proposed Texas map is designed to net the GOP up to five House seats " potentially enough to decide the majority for President Trump's Republicans in his final two years in office.

"This is a war. We are at war. And that's why the gloves are off, and I say bring it on," New York Gov. Kathy Hochul declared at a press conference Monday, accusing Texas Republicans of a "legal insurrection."

OORAH!

Democrats are now threatening to retaliate by doing what they've already done.

#56 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Speaking for California. Democrats voted to make gerrymandering more fair and nonpartisan.

It was obviously a liberal pipe dream. Republicans are never going to reciprocate in kind. They are only going to take advantage.

Republicans in Texas are voting to make the districts as unfair and partisan as they can.

Democrats may have no choice but to fall back. Sometimes if the fire is too big you have to fight fire with fire.

California non-partisan redistricting, sure Jan.

#59 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Apple AI:

Question:

Is California redistricting nonpartisan?

Answer:

Yes, California's redistricting process is designed to be nonpartisan and is overseen by the California Citizens Redistricting Commission (CCRC).

So.. GFY Visitard.

They are CURRENTLY nonpartisan.

But. Soon ... .Not anymore. Apparently.

Time to fight fire with fire. Maybe. You know we are thinking about it. After all that's what democrats do. Think and think and think. After all the ---- California is getting from this hateful fascist magatard currently in the WH the least we could do is counter punch a little.

Reality, try it sometime.

#61 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Not sure if you have noticed yet but we humans have a way of creating are own realities.

So it's not about trying "reality" my hateful friend. It's about the reality you are trying to create.

creating are own realities

SB

creating our own realities

Thx Siri!

Re 65

So profound !

Resorting to insults when you are caught in another lie seems to be a pattern with you.

Analyze the ratio of Democrat to Republican legislators in California to the party registrations and tell us that the districts were formed in a non-partisan manner.

Don't purposely misunderstand and distort facts to suit your narrative or are you just plain stupid. Hard to say. But passing a new law doesn't change things overnight.

The NONPARTISAN Citizens Commission was only formed in 2008.

Change of this nature takes time. And now, because of Republican efforts to experiment with facism and undermine the upcoming election, it may not even be able to be possible to complete.

In November 2008, California voters passed the Voters FIRST Act, authorizing the creation of the Independent Citizens Redistricting Commission to draw new district lines, taking the job out of the hands of the California Legislature and transferring it to the citizens.

Oh and speaking of "trying reality" ..

Still waiting for your answer.

Who won the 2020 presidential election fair and square with an electoral vote count of 306 to 232 and a Popular vote count of 81,283,501 to 74,223,975?

Representatives are elected every 2 years.

POSTED BY VISITOR_

Which means the mid terms are coming and Trumpy republicans are panicking.

Re 78

It's funny how you cannot answer a simple question and show us your firm grip on "reality".

"The link includes a picture of this ridiculous district."

Where have you been? Are you just now joining the war? It's been going on a LONG time now. California tried to unilaterally disarm. But that's just not possible or reasonable anymore.

You see me now, a veteran
Of a thousand psychic wars
My energy's spent at last
And my armor is destroyed
I have used up all my weapons
And I'm helpless and bereaved
Wounds are all I'm made of

Did I hear you say that this is victory?

Don't let these shakes go on
It's time we had a break from it

Send me to the rear

Where the tides of madness swell
And been sliding into Hell
Oh, please, don't let these shakes go on
Don't let these shakes go on
Don't let these shakes go on

"The deep state won in 2020."

So you freely admit live in a fantasyland.

There is no such things as the "deep state" in America. It's not even one of the options in the presidential elections.

The term "deep state" originated in Turkey, where it referred to a secret alliance between the military, intelligence, and organized crime that exerted influence over the government. The concept has also been observed in other countries with authoritarian or fragile governments.

And it sounds exactly like something Trumpy would try and do.

The "deep state" is just more projection by a facist authoritarian regime to justify its unconstitutional actions.

Once again ... maga accusations are confessions.