... the policy of the state of Florida should be determined by the voters of the State of Florida, don't you think? ...

Well, to the extent that the policies are constitutional and there is not a doubt in my mind that the Don't Say Gay law will be knocked down as being unconstitutional.

For, at a minimum, prohibiting public schools from teaching legal same-sex marriage.

I'm curious, how is teaching children the factual nature of the sexual act "dangerous"?

And again, you should consider the demographic the book was written for-Europeans, who have a far less repressed attitude towards sex.

because I just now clicked on the link you stupid ----, and realized it is the same book I linked (but did not claim was the end of civilization).
Now post some excerpts and see if the moderators take down the content. Better yet, read it to your 4 year old and see how she/he reacts to it.

#133 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7

ok, so we finally got you admitting you didn't know what you were talking about, ok fine that is a starting point.

You seem to be admitting you haven't read the book YOU posted as being a problem. Not surprised by that

I think that it is up to you to post some content from the book that you find objectionable. It certainly touches on some topics that people like you may have a problem with:

1. Gender identity
2. consent
3. Child abuse
4. difference between male and female anatomy
5. children's rights
6. falling in love

I find the book fairly mild (from the review), I can understand why puritans would find it objectionable as it certainly comes from a European perspective relative to sex and gender

No Miranda, the problem is all YOU

You post a link to this book: "My Body is Growing: A Guide for Children, Ages 4 to 8 by Dagmar Geisler"

You use it as an example: "To those who say this isn't happening and there is no reason for parentsto be concerned, take a look at this book, which is targeted to 4 to 8 year olds. It was placed in many school libraries."

I post a review of that book, which you are so concerned about, which I posted in response to your comment: "Hold on while I try to pull up the excerpts that probably can't be posted here."

My link shows in great detail the book claim is such a problem. A page by page review in fact.

Then in post 111 YOU claim you have never heard of that book, the book that YOU cited. This is YOUR quote: "Never even heard of it."

Now your claiming you didn't even click on my link. So how do you claim to know the title of the book?

I don't know which is bigger-your ignorance, your ego or your willingness to lie.

School districts in Florida are COMPLETELY controlled by Liberal teachers unions.

#116 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7

Perhaps you should stop trying hyperbole, you aren't very good at it.

Can you please cite where you got the idea that I am terrfiied of that book? Never even heard of it. Spreading lies as usual "TRUTH" hurts, Queen of the straw man argument. I don't usually respond to you either, but WTH.

#111 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7

You never heard of it? Why do people lie so poorly? I mean less than 4 hours ago you were using it as an example of the end of civilization as we know it.

To those who say this isn't happening and there is no reason for parentsto be concerned, take a look at this book, which is targeted to 4 to 8 year olds. It was placed in many school libraries. www.barnesandnoble.com
Hold on while I try to pull up the excerpts that probably can't be posted here.

#45 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7 AT 2023-01-29 03:07 PM

Piss poor liar you be.

FYI here is a review of the book miranda is terrified of:

Why are conservatives so adamant to put guns in schools and remove rainbows from classrooms.
Can you understand how you're over propagandized pawns?

#22 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Keep in mind that republicans want to arm teachers who they think are grooming kids.

Keep in mind that Miranda believe doctors are cowards for not providing abortions for questionable cases in abortion restriction states.

Florida. America's ----.

#2 | POSTED BY LEGALLYYOURDEAD

No, no, no.

You see there is an ---- and around the ---- are some hemorrhoids, and occasionally a hemorrhoid will become infected due to unsafe ---- sex with a syphilitic hobo and that infection will have pus and that pus will draw flies and the flies will give birth in the festering, infected hemorrhoid, creating maggots and the maggots will poop into the syphilitic infected festering pus from the diseased hemorrhoid.

The odor given off by that ---- is Florida.

JeffJ is the person licking that ----.

Republicans are scum

"Special needs" is broader than kids with physical and mental deficiencies. MAGNET programs proclaim the students that qualify are "special needs" as well - as in needing a more challenging curriculum and learning environment.

#63 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER A

hey look captain obvious (the liar) joined the conversation.

Most of the parents I know here that have their kids in private school is because it is a private institution that caters to children with very special needs. I know very few that leave the public system for regular private teaching. This type of payment system would result in more funding to the public schools since their kids aren't in public school anyway, and relieve the unbelievable financial burden they face having kids with extreme special needs.
But I ALSO know that my anecdotes aren't evidence of the big picture.

#58 | POSTED BY ABH

umm, i think you are conflating here.

Kids with extreme special needs (i.e cerebral palsy, severe autism, etc.) aren't in the public school system to begin with and if they are they are not going to be switching over to a private school (certainly not on large scale numbers).

Public schools do cater to some special needs (probably most), i.e. behavior or milder cognitive disabilities, but again, those kids will not be switching schools.

You are correct, the schools would have some more money, but that requires tax increases.

And again, why? Iowa is 24th in the nation in education, that is not a statistic screaming for radical change.

If you have independent audit days of the costs to support your math, again, I'd like to see that.

IDK what this means.

Umm, well I believe it self evident in many ways. Students who attend private schools are, generally speaking, more motivated educationally-they are paying for the education above and beyond what they pay for taxes that cover public schools.

AND

Reducing overhead is a great way to make sure more dollars end up where it should be.

This does not address overhead.

So, some appear to not get it.

1. Tax money going directly to, primarily, religious institutions. I have a major problem with that personally
2. Those religious institutions do not have to meet the same standards as public schools.
3. Those religious institutions/private schools are not located in rural areas.
4. Iowa public schools were NOT failing-24th ranked state overall-so what is prompting this action?
5. Taxes will have to be raised or programs cut to implement this program-State funding is covering the students whether they attend public or private schools, and an additional 15.8% of that student's cost to the school where they do not attend-so the state's spending increased 15.8% with zero setoffs-Busing, teachers, aids, special ed all will have to remain unchanged. I think it obvious on its face that this will require either a major tax increase OR reduction in services or funding for other programs.
6. Most parents will still have no choice. The schools select/accept the students, NOT the parent/child. Parents who cannot afford the tuition, people who do not meet the school's demographic (i.e. jewish, muslim, poor, minority, LGBTQ, non-english speaking) will be stuck at the public schools-which will receive less funding.
7. This will have zero impact on funding of the MIC
8. Public money that goes to private companies goes through a contracting or public bidding process-not a direct handout. Private schools thus will have no or reduced standards to meet-something no public contract should ever allow. This is a process ripe for abuse and corruption.
9. This is a handout to the upper and middle class that pay for private schools.
10. I don't believe that private schools are necessarily better at teaching children. Any difference in educational results is likely based on the "quality" of the student-more motivated, from a more stable environment.

@82

Newsflash: Everything you post are not facts.

Hey racist, mocking the disabled is never a good look.

Iowa is ranked 24 in education, I wonder where they will be 5 or 10 years from now.

------- wanted to nuke a hurricane

This is an abomination.

Consider a few facts.

This is NOT parental choice. This is the private school choosing their students and getting paid handsomely for it.

Private schools are not near most rural residents, meaning those rural public schools will be stripped of funding with no reduction on class size.

god forbid you have a special needs child=there goes your resources to the pedo factories, er catholic schools.

You poor and can't afford the tuition even with the state money-well SCREW YOU

English a second language? PUDRETE!

Your child is gay or trans or the parents are gay or trans-A BIG ---- YOU!!!!

Republicans are scum, it is time for this country to break up. ---- them and there faux religious -------

So, now government is simply funneling tax money to religious institutions. LOL.

wgaf