WGAF the whole bloody family is scum

Don't worry. In 20-30 years, you'll have the chance to rebalance the Supreme Court and possibly get your rights back.

#55 | Posted by Sycophan

30 years? That is VERY optimistic

By 2028 it is very likely that ------- will have nominated 5 justices to the Supreme Court

Then why do the shutdown at all?

The harm you describe was obvious from the start. Why do the shutdown at all? Why not just give in to republican demands for the next year plus (hoping you win the House).

If they went 40 days, why not 50 or 60 days?

Why not make the Thanksgiving holiday a royal fiasco WITH TRUMP TAKING THE BLAME?

Why reward the sociopath party?

Since the people effected included vast numbers of magat scum, wouldn't it be a useful thing to let them truly experience republican policy without filter? Trump and republicans are great at obfuscating the destruction of their policies.

That facade was failing; Trump was actually vulnerable to magat scum anger. He was holding Great Gatsby balls and truffle parties, while magat scum went hungry

That was breaking through

Wouldn't that actually push Trump and the magat scum politicians to actually change?

Instead, after ALL that suffering, we got NOTHING.

Worse than nothing, shutdowns are no longer a valid option to any republican legislation. Dems showed that they would cave. Republicans now have ZERO incentive to take any threat of holding out by dems seriously

Compound that with pathetic messaging about how they couldn't beat trump and ugh.

This was an unmitigated disaster

For the first ------- time since January Dems showed fight and immediately quit

---- them

Back in the spring, it was Bondi I think who said that they shouldn't release the files because there was a lot of "unsubstantiated accusations"

I interpret this to mean that there were countless victim statements that so and so raped a child.

BUT

there was no corroborating evidence, which is completely logical given the type of crimes that occurred. there wouldn't be witnesses, certainly no rape kits, no video tapes, MAYBE some circumstantial evidence like diaries and the like, MAYBE contemporary communication with friends by the victims like in the E. Jean Carroll case

Hey maybe there ARE pictures of naked children sitting on Trump's lap, their are rumors along that line, but is that enough to push a criminal case?

This must have been a very difficult case compounded by the powerful people involved

So, the files likely contain countless people accusing Trump and Epstein and Maxwell and Prince Philip and a slew of others of rape.

UGLY

But prosecutable? Likely very difficult

But political dynamite?

No Doubt

It really shows what type of man Epstein was and makes you wonder why anyone would even deal with him in the first place.
#12 | Posted by boaz

because they were rich pedophiles who thought they were untouchable

which is kinda true

that and the money laundering.

From the link in 197

'KELLY: Yeah, so I don't know what's true about him, but we have yet to see anybody come forward and say...."

This is how the reframing of the situation ALWAYS starts

"Don't know what's true"
"Just asking questions"
"Did it really happen?"

Magat scum are truly vile

Good thing the dems surrendered in the shutdown before it got too bad for -------

FFS do people not understand how the government works?

This is all simply --------

The House votes on a bil

Long shot to even pass

if it does it goes to senate

Long shot to be even voted on

if it is even voted on it will not pass

Even if it passes it goes to ------- for signature

So, when he vetoes it, 2/3 of each house needed to overturn veto

Is that process ever even hinted at in the endless stories bout this?

------- useless media.

Thanks magat scum

This agency was designed to help YOU

My question is, according to some things I have seen, the victim that was redacted was the one who killed herself. She is on record as saying Trump did nothing to her.

Epstein has over 1,000 victims

#2,
The House will vote on it, maybe today, but it'll never get through the Senate. As long as Trump has a stranglehold on the GOP we'll never see those files.

#3 | Posted by qcp

People don't understand the basic operations of our government

Sure this gets a vote in the house

It may even get a vote in the senate

It may even pass both houses

Then where does it go?

To the president's desk

Anyone think he will sign a bill requiring the release of the Epstein files?

Ok, well there is the veto override

2/3 of each house going to vote to release them?
||
LOL

what a waste of breath

I asked the question the other day and never got a response.

What polices, laws, programs or positions do republicans advocate for that help the poor and middle classes?

I can think of exactly none.

MAYBE immigration could be stretched to a position about jobs, but the implementation is far more about racism and perceived electoral politics

Tax cuts? NOPE they benefit the upper class with only an incidental help to the poor and middle class

That is it

That is all I can come up with since No Child Left Behind, which major league flawed was at least an attempt at something beneficial.

Any ideas?

#12. You need to divorce your thinking from emotion when talking about these subjects. The subject matter is deeper than a couple of statistics that you think make up an actual argument.

#14 | Posted by BellRinger

I suspected you couldn't be a better person.

Se la vie

1/4 of electricity is from solar/wind you ------- -------

now try and argue that is insignificant or "unreliable"

Renewable energy in the U.S. has seen substantial growth since 2000, with overall energy generation increasing by 91.2% between 2000 and 2020. This growth is driven primarily by wind and solar power, which have become much more cost-competitive and now make up a significant and growing portion of electricity generation. In 2020, renewables accounted for about 12.2% of total U.S. energy production and 19.5% of net electricity generation

You made a stupid indefensible claim and are now too stupid and immoral and lacking integrity to admit a mistake

GFY Liar

educate yourself idiot

"It depends on the alternative. Solar and/or wind? Dumb."

#9 | Posted by BellRinger

March 2025 (electricity generation): A record high 24.4% of U.S. electricity came from solar and wind combined, with wind at about 11% and solar at around 13.4%.

2024 (electricity generation): Solar and wind made up 15% of global electricity generation.

You're a ------- idiot

It took Dems less than a week to surrender the advantage they had with the election

Less than a week for the dems to lose EVERYTHING they gained in the election

---- them

So, let me get this straight.

Dems GOT

1. The unfiring of federal employees who wouldn't have been fired without the shutdown.
2. A meaningless promise of a vote on the ACA in the future
3. SNAP funding, which wasn't an issue until the shutdown threatened it.

So, iow, the dems got nothing

------- losers

"They got a vote on ACA in future they can't win because it requires 60 to pass, and they appear to have gotten Gov funding and rehiring for Gov workers, and apparently some guarantee on SNAP money."

So, iow they got absolutely nothing.

------- weak ass dems

Appears like they got nothing

If and when the SC overturns -------- use of tariffs, the federal government will have to refund that $200,000,000,000

to corporations

Not to you who spent the money

But to the corporations who imported goods and paid the tariff

So, you and I paid more for goods over the past whatever months to corporations who paid the federal government the tarrifs.

So when tariffs are refunded, they go back to the corporations.

Will the corporations be sending you and me checks?

LOL

Just more transfer of wealth from the poor and middle class to the wealthy

Almost like it was planned

Truth,
This sort of thinking is why dems will find it hard to work with Trump and the Republicans about ACA.
Score keeping will not be part of the process, if it's to work.

#159 | Posted by BillJohnson

LOL

Score keeping.

IOW don't shame republicans for not helping the poor and middle class.

Truth,
"list of programs repubs promote"
Should I assume you mean free stuff you can hold in your hand or deposit in your bank or are you also including intangibles like job programs, tax incentives for employers, and policies designed to help people find work and keep more of what they earn?

#155 | Posted by BillJohns

No, I mean exactly what I state, policies, laws and programs designed to help the middle and poor classes.

You say intangibles like "job programs" that is not an intangible. Republicans DO NOT PROMOTE that sort of thing, it is called job training, They don't. they REQUIRE welfare recipients to work (which is ridiculous as those that can do already) but there are not "job programs"

Can you point to actual programs, laws, actual things they push?

I know you are of limited intellect, but most of what I posted is not "free stuff", they are programs, policies and laws that benefit the poor and middle class

Example

the Consumer Fraud Protection Bureau PROTECTS poor and middle class consumers from being subject to fraud

the overdraft fees, the airline reimbursement policy, keeping medical debt off of credit scores are ACTUAL policies designed to help individuals, they are not fee handouts

I get it, it is hard to find equivalent policies pushed by republicans

LOL

i asked google what programs republican promote to help poor and middle classes

I got back
tax cut and work requirements
LOL

Student debt relief
Menthol cigarette ban
Medical Debt on credit reports
Federal Worker minimum wage

Just a few more dem policies rescinded by republicans