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Monday, August 04, 2025

William Kristol, Mike Murphy, Jim Swift, and Benjamin Parker: The assault is happening in plain sight, from the Epstein case to Texas reapportionment to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

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"The brazen partisan redistricting underway in Texas, with Republicans attempting to entrench themselves in office and Democrats weighing a counter-offensive in blue states, was greenlit by the US Supreme Court six years ago," writes Joan Biskupic. cnn.it/4lezvnb[image or embed]

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It's SO blatant and clear that even some Republicans see the dangers.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-04 02:00 PM | Reply

Texas reapportionment
- FTA

How's "gerrymandering" less than California or Illinois killing democracy?

#2 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-08-04 02:12 PM | Reply

#2

WTF difference does your Whataboutism make?

All it does is avoid the current point by claiming hypocrisy. Unless you mean to say that it's OK because someone else did it. How many times does this need to be explained to you?

See if you can't make a comment about the points in the article.

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-04 02:18 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Up until now, California utilizes an independent commission to determine its congressional districts..

So.

OneTrumpSlut is wrong as usual.

His posts have never been anything more than a waste of time to read.

#4 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-04 02:22 PM | Reply

What a bunch of drama queens. Nobody like gerrymandering but it's been around since this country was founded.

#5 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-04 02:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#4 - That's for damn sure. He's rarely right about anything, and flagrantly wrong or lying the rest of the time. What's inadvertent is he points out that CA and NY are currently in the process of fighting fire with fire - a fire TX and Trump started. It's time to kick some RED ass.

#6 | Posted by YAV at 2025-08-04 02:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I see BR is here to pretend what TX is doing is just perfectly normal. Is BR a clueless little fckk, a useful MAGAIdiot, or a deceitful lying sack?

#7 | Posted by YAV at 2025-08-04 02:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

from The Bulwark article:

"Once, if a president or his subordinates wanted to cover up a problem, even a crime, they made labored efforts at obfuscation and concealment. Coverups were, as the term implies, pursued under the cover of darkness.

That's why the Washington Post, with the experience of Watergate in mind, came up at the beginning of Trump's first term with the slogan "Democracy Dies in Darkness." But that slogan applies to a different era.

Now Ghislaine Maxwell, one of two organizers of a massive and horrendous child sex trafficking ring of which Donald Trump appears to have had considerable contemporaneous knowledge, meets with the deputy attorney general of the United States"who had previously been Trump's private lawyer"and the White House openly embraces it.

A week later, contrary to the normal rules for a prisoner convicted of her crimes, Maxwell is transferred to a minimum security "Club Fed" facility. This was presumably as a down payment on not spilling the beans about Trump, and perhaps as an interim step on the way to a pardon.

This coverup is happening in broad daylight."

;;

Sad that Trump and MAGA are SO evil as to make Bloody Bill Kristol et al sound like the decent people in the room.

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-04 02:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

What a bunch of drama queens. Nobody like gerrymandering but it's been around since this country was founded.

#5 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Mid decade at the demand of a potus looking to solidify power in the face of deeply unpopular policy?

Me thinks you're full of s^%# as usual, Gutes Deutsch:

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2025-08-04 02:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-04 02:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

LMAO

It's only bad when Republicans do it.

#10 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-08-04 03:04 PM | Reply

All the MAGAdiots coming out in favor of gerrymandering that works in their favor trolling the thread like they aren't already ------------- their authoritarian dictkator wannabe when he's not busy trying to bang underage models, LOL.

#11 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-08-04 03:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Democrat majority in Supreme Court rewrote Wisconsin's Districts so what Texas is doing is fair.

#12 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-08-04 03:21 PM | Reply

It's only bad when Republicans do it.
#10 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTURDS

Name one good thing Republicans have done for working class Americans over the past two decades.

BushJr and Trump, 12 years combined.

What have they done other than give tax cuts to the super wealthy and funnel tax dollars into the pockets of the super wealthy.

#13 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-04 03:29 PM | Reply

Supreme Court is a non-partisan entity, but it's good to hear from MAGAdiots how they think about it. Clearly, MAGAdiots view the Supreme Court as partisan. ROoL oF LAw!

#14 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-08-04 03:33 PM | Reply

@#1 ... It's SO blatant and clear that even some Republicans see the dangers. ...

If Texas succeeds and the Republicans retain control of the House, then what are the odds that Pres Trump tells the House not to certify the results of the 2028 Presidential election, giving Pres Trump a possible reason to stay in power...

#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-08-04 03:34 PM | Reply

Nobody likes gerrymandering and Trump is in the Epstein Files.

#16 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-08-04 03:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

A map was posted online showing what would happening if all states gerrymandered their congressional districts.

It ends up with democrats having more seats than republicans.

Currently, California and New York use independent commissions to draw up congressional districts. Giving a lot of seats to Republicans.

Pretty sure Newsom is about to end that in response to the actions of Abbott.

#17 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-04 03:34 PM | Reply

MAGA out here trying to be the 2017 Astros, about to get dealt with.

#18 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-08-04 03:40 PM | Reply

oneironaut

Not American. Post dismissed.

#19 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-08-04 03:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

@#17 ... Currently, California and New York use independent commissions to draw up congressional districts. ...

Also, the redistricting is usually done after a Census to take into account the changes in population shown by the Census.

Texas is redistricting halfway between two Census.

#20 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-08-04 03:49 PM | Reply

Abbott is just doing what he's told.

What a pathetic loser.

#21 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-04 03:51 PM | Reply

Is BR a clueless little fckk, a useful MAGAIdiot, or a deceitful lying sack?
#7 | POSTED BY YAV

All of the above.

#22 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-04 03:54 PM | Reply

" #7 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2025-08-04 02:33 PM | FLAG: "

Like lfthndthrds said, it's only bad when Republicans do it.

#23 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-04 04:04 PM | Reply

Name one good thing Republicans have done for working class Americans over the past two decades.

#13 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-04 03:29 PM | Reply

For starters Trump is opening up thousands of blue collar jobs for Americans everyday with the deportation of illegal immigrants.

#24 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-08-04 04:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"The end of democracy and the defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of lending institutions and moneyed incorporations."

- Thomas Jefferson

"This is the end
Beautiful friend
This is the end
My only friend, the end

Of our elaborate plans, the end
Of everything that stands, the end
No safety or surprise, the end
I'll never look into your eyes again"

www.azlyrics.com

#25 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-04 04:07 PM | Reply

Is BR a clueless little fckk, a useful MAGAIdiot, AND a deceitful lying sack?
#7 | POSTED BY YAV


FTFY

#26 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-08-04 04:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#24

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaahhhhahahaaaaaaa

Thanks for that laugh, "blue collar jobs," hahahahahahaahahaaha ... "created" bwahahahaahahahaaahahahaaha

#27 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-08-04 04:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The job creator in chief is "opening" up thousands of blue collar jobs, LOL. Please, do tell...

#28 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-08-04 04:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I told you so.

I told you so.

I told you so.

Magat scum can go ---- themselves.

There is NOTHING comparable to anything dems have ever done.

And to add to the death of democracy theme:

Magat scum recently "rescinded" much of the spending that was agreed through negotiation to reach the budget deal in march/april
That CR was passed with a 60% vote meaning magat scum needed dem buy-in to get it passed
A couple of months go by and they rescind (with 50+1 Senate votes) the spending that the magat scum had agreed to for the CR to pass
So, this effectively makes any CR worth ---- for Dems.
There is ZERO reason to trust ANY deal that the Dems make with magat scum
Combine that with the impoundment that ----ler is implementing, they are effectively governing without any dem imput-i.e. the death of democracy
If the dems don't force a government shut down and a change in the rules, then F them

Magat scum are the vilest of the vile.

#29 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-08-04 04:16 PM | Reply

Name one good thing Republicans have done for working class Americans over the past two decades.
#13 | Posted by ClownShack

For starters Trump is opening up thousands of blue collar jobs for Americans everyday with the deportation of illegal immigrants.
#24 | Posted by lfthndthrds

"Trump is opening up thousands of blue collar jobs for Americans"

How many jobs?
How many have Americans filled?

He's created more ICE jobs than farm jobs.
Would you work a farm job knowing ICE can detain you without probable cause?

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-04 04:17 PM | Reply

For starters Trump is opening up thousands of blue collar jobs for Americans everyday with the deportation of illegal immigrants.

That's what Hitler said when he put all the jews in camps.

#31 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-04 04:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

For starters Trump is opening up thousands of blue collar jobs for Americans everyday with the deportation of illegal immigrants.
#24 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTURDS

You're.

-------.

Retarded.

Other than satisfying you xenophobia.

Deporting hardworking people who are doing the jobs Americans do not want to do is hurting America.

You stupid racist.

Tell us, when do you show up to start working the jobs these immigrants are no longer being allowed to do?

Never?

Exactly.

Neither is anyone else.

You stupid, hateful, piece of garbage.

#32 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-04 04:26 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

"Trump is opening up thousands of blue collar jobs for Americans"

What was the cost to the taxpayers, for every job "opened up?"

We were spending $20,000 per person just to deport someone do you agree with that?
"Over the last five fiscal years, it cost an estimated average of $19,599 to deport one person"
www.cbsnews.com

So, twenty grand to open up a job making $7.25 an hour, and that's assuming it's actually eligible for minimum wage and not an agricultural sub-minimum.

Have you figured out when this program pays for itself?

Have you figured out it was never intended to help American blue collar workers?

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-04 04:28 PM | Reply

We have near full employment. Who are these people filling these new job vacancies? Will low wage workers have to take yet ANOTHER low paying job?

Magat scum will NOT answer that question. It goes to the root of the stupidity of the deportation policy.

Again, kick out 1,000,000 immigrants from Texas and who will do those jobs? There are NOT 1,000,000 unemployed people in Texas.

------- dumbasses

#34 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-08-04 04:29 PM | Reply

Like lfthndturds said, it's only bad when Republicans do it.
#23 | POSTED BY BULLBRINGER

It's remarkable how you managed to fit your entire head up Turd's ass.

Of course, years of getting ------ by horses really loosened him up for you.

I suggest starting an ivermectin program.

#35 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-04 04:29 PM | Reply

White democracy is racist crap.

#36 | Posted by fresno500 at 2025-08-04 04:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite.

Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their own government.

Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.


The cornerstone of democracy rests on the foundation of an educated electorate.

The country is headed toward a single and splendid government of an aristocracy founded on banking institutions and moneyed incorporations and if this tendency continues it will be the end of freedom and democracy, the few will be ruling...I hope we shall...crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations which dare already to challenge our government to trial and bid defiance to the laws of our country.

I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies.

Thomas Jefferson

aka Why MAGA hates Thomas Jefferson

#37 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-04 05:01 PM | Reply

" We have near full employment"

Once someone drops out of the workforce for a year they are no longer counted. We have plenty of US citizens who will work jobs vacated by deported illegal aliens.

#38 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-04 05:11 PM | Reply

And if we do run short we can always hand out more work visas and have people enter in an orderly and controlled manner.

#39 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-04 05:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

We have plenty of US citizens who will work jobs vacated by deported illegal aliens.
#38 | POSTED BY BULLBRINGER

You're delusional.

When are you showing up to do the work immigrants aren't being allowed to do anymore?

Never?

Exactly.

#40 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-04 05:13 PM | Reply

" Exactly.

#40 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2025-08-04 05:13 PM | FLAG: "

You sound exactly like George W Bush.

#41 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-04 05:23 PM | Reply

You're gonna vote for me for president?

What high praise!

#42 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-04 05:25 PM | Reply

" We have near full employment"
Once someone drops out of the workforce for a year they are no longer counted. We have plenty of US citizens who will work jobs vacated by deported illegal aliens.

#38 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-04 05:11 PM | Reply | Flag

That is a ------- lie

You lying piece of ----

#43 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-08-04 05:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Example

www.google.com

Texas Unemployment rate 4%
Equals 640,000 unemployed, TOTAL (Keep in mind that a substantial number of these people left work to care for family or are between jobs or are going back to school or are dealing with health issues-thus 4% is considered near full employment
In Texas, there are an estimated 1.7 million undocumented immigrants.

Again, I ask, who will replace the undocumented workers?

Can magat scum answer without lying?

#44 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-08-04 05:44 PM | Reply

Once someone drops out of the workforce for a year they are no longer counted. We have plenty of US citizens who will work jobs vacated by deported illegal aliens.
#38 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-04 05:11 PM | Reply | Flag

That's a damned lie and you know it too

#45 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-08-04 05:47 PM | Reply

We have plenty of US citizens who will work jobs vacated by deported illegal aliens.

Yeah, I can just see you picking strawberries and doing landscaping.

What a liar you are.

#46 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-04 05:50 PM | Reply

I take care of my own landscaping and don't get paid. Mowing the lawn. Edging. Weed whacking. Trimming bushes. Pruning trees. I'd be happy to do that. I am not above hard work manual labor.

#47 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-04 05:54 PM | Reply

My point is, I don't view this type of work as beneath me. I'm not an effete snob.

#48 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-04 05:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I am not above hard work manual labor.

You're a rich white boy in the suburbs that does manual labor for fun.

You wouldn't do it for a living, or on immigrant wages. Go back to talking about something you actually understand, jeff. Like grilling meat.

#49 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-04 05:56 PM | Reply

" Again, I ask, who will replace the undocumented workers"

I already answered.

#50 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-04 05:56 PM | Reply

Jeff pays to go to a farm with his kids to pick strawberries and thinks he's an immigrant.

#51 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-04 05:57 PM | Reply

I'd be happy to do that. I am not above hard work manual labor.
#47 | POSTED BY BULLBRINGER

You can't walk across the room without wheezing.

#52 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-04 06:01 PM | Reply

I am not above hard work manual labor.

#47 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Tending your lawn?

Too funny.

#53 | Posted by Zed at 2025-08-04 06:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

BBQing is hard werk!

'Member when Jeffy was a nice, reasonable conservative Polish boy?

He's been radicalized like the rest of the Cult.

#54 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-04 06:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Jeff couldn't hold a construction or landscaping job. He'd lie to his boss too much.

#55 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-04 06:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" You wouldn't do it for a living, or on immigrant wages. Go back to talking about something you actually understand, jeff. Like grilling meat.

#49 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2025-08-04 05:56 PM | FLAG: "

You are a such an elitist snob. You think you know me but you don't.

#56 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-04 06:02 PM | Reply

I don't view this type of work as beneath me.
#48 | POSTED BY BULLBRINGER

The work that was originally done by slaves and later by undocumented immigrants?

Because no one else wants to do it.

#57 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-04 06:03 PM | Reply

We have plenty of US citizens who will work jobs vacated by deported illegal aliens.

#38 | Posted by BellRinger

I'm not aware that they are stepping forward in any numbers.

Now would be a very good time for them to do that.

#58 | Posted by Zed at 2025-08-04 06:03 PM | Reply

Go back to talking about something you actually understand, jeff. Like grilling meat.
#49 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

Ever since becoming a Trumping MAGAt, he prefers McDonald's.

#59 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-04 06:04 PM | Reply

You are a such an elitist snob.

#56 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

You do your own lawn and think you've sacrificed something.

Hard labor over the course of years shortens lives.

How long do you expect to live?

#60 | Posted by Zed at 2025-08-04 06:05 PM | Reply

Elitist snob?

Worked construction for years with Mexican dudes. I'd rather deport you.

I sincerely doubt you've ever worked that hard. Go cut your lawn, junior.

#61 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-04 06:05 PM | Reply

" Jeff pays to go to a farm with his kids to pick strawberries and thinks he's an immigrant.

#51 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2025-08-04 05:57 PM | FLAG: "

Farming is hard work. At my age it would be difficult. I admire people who do it. You all turn your noses up and think only illegal aliens are willing to do the hard work at suppressed under the table wages. It's a riduculous viewpoint but effete lefties who have never done a hard day's work in their entire life, like Alexandrite, like to project.

#62 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-04 06:08 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

im not making fun of hard work, i'm making fun of you pretending you know what that is.

#63 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-04 06:09 PM | Reply

" How long do you expect to live?

#60 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2025-08-04 06:05 PM | FLAG: "

At least 100. I make Jack Lalane look like a wimp.

#64 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-04 06:10 PM | Reply

effete lefties who have never done a hard day's work in their entire life, like Alexandrite,

LOL

Go play with your 3 grills, douche.

#65 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-04 06:10 PM | Reply

Jeff's a butch lumberjack. He mows his lawn.

ROFL

#66 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-04 06:12 PM | Reply

" im not making fun of hard work, i'm making fun of you pretending you know what that is.

#63 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2025-08-04 06:09 PM | FLAG: "

You are absolutely belittling it. "If we don't have illegal aliens who will pick our crops?"

Alexandrite channeling 1860 Dems, "If we don't have slaves, who will pick our cotton?"

#67 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-04 06:13 PM | Reply

Poor jeff has to brag about mowing his lawn.
Like no one else here does it.

You have no achievements in life.

#68 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-04 06:14 PM | Reply

#64 | Posted by BellRinger

It's probably gonna be more like 120 y/o with the way modern medicine is trending. You'd better financially plan accordingly!

#69 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-08-04 06:15 PM | Reply

Hey, everyone! Jeff started the dishwasher today.

He's rugged.

#70 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-04 06:16 PM | Reply

Jeff's a butch lumberjack.

#66 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE A

He's a lumberjack and he's OK.

He works all night and he sleeps all day

#71 | Posted by Zed at 2025-08-04 06:17 PM | Reply

"If we don't have illegal aliens who will pick our crops?"

#67 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Looks like no one.

No one at all.

#72 | Posted by Zed at 2025-08-04 06:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Farming is hard work. At my age it would be difficult. I admire people who do it.

Which is why you support Trump treating the people who do it like criminals? Vilifying them, arresting them and deporting them to be tortured in El Salvador or living in filth in the shhthole called Alligator Alcatraz?

You're a xenophobic liar and nothing more than an unemployed troll.

#73 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-04 06:19 PM | Reply

"If we don't have illegal aliens who will pick our crops?"

#67 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

I wonder why Trump never asked himself this same question?

I mean, not as the afterthought it is.

#74 | Posted by Zed at 2025-08-04 06:19 PM | Reply

"If we don't have illegal aliens who will pick our crops?"

Even a ten year old understands that employers pay substandard wages for these farming jobs. Wages non immigrants wouldn't take. It's terrible, but here we are. Reality.

The best you can do is strawmen about how I "feel" about laborers even though i was one.

Feel my ass.

#75 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-04 06:20 PM | Reply

If we don't have illegal aliens who will pick our crops?
#67 | POSTED BY BULLBRINGER

No one.

Expect prices to continue increasing at grocery stores and famine to become more widespread.

#76 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-04 06:21 PM | Reply

" Poor jeff has to brag about mowing his lawn.
Like no one else here does it"

Nope. You're dumb.

I'm making fun of people like you who think nobody other than "stupid illegal aliens" (your implication) will do that kind of work for a wage.

#77 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-04 06:22 PM | Reply

It's less than a living wage.
These people don't have a choice.

We've been exploiting immigrants for my whole life and trumps solution is to send these victims to El Salvador.

You voted for this. YOURE the elitist snob.

#78 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-04 06:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"stupid illegal aliens"

All you have is straw.

I'd rather deport useless ---- like you than them. Bank on that.

#79 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-04 06:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm making fun of people like you who think nobody other than "stupid illegal aliens" (your implication) will do that kind of work for a wage.
#77 | POSTED BY BULLBRINGER

Calling them illegal aliens while feigning admiration for people who work in the agricultural industry is the hight of hypocrisy.

You're so desperate to lie and troll. You're unable to control your xenophobia.

#80 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-04 06:34 PM | Reply

Jeff admires farm workers so much he supports sending them to foreign gulags

#81 | Posted by Truthhurts at 2025-08-04 06:49 PM | Reply

"We have plenty of US citizens who will work jobs vacated by deported illegal aliens."

How will you move those workers from harvest to harvest? Or will these just be month-long gigs, and then they're SOL?

#82 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-08-04 07:16 PM | Reply

"who have never done a hard day's work in their entire life"

^
Every accusation is a confession.

#83 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-04 07:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"You all turn your noses up"

I do what now?

Republicans say they carry diseases.
Republicans say they are rapists and drug dealers.
Republicans say merely crossing the border illegally denies the Constitutionally required Due Process.

"and think only illegal aliens are willing to do the hard work at suppressed under the table wages."

I don't "think" that.
It isn't an opinion.
It's a fact.
Roughly half of the agricultural labor force is undocumented.
That is what The Invisible Hand has dealt us.
Executive Orders can't that.
Even a comprehensive policy would be implemented over years, not a quarter.
Sending today's workers to camps doesn't re-staff those jobs tomorrow.

Can't you understand that?

You lie and lie and lie.
It's all you do.

#84 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-04 07:30 PM | Reply

" We've been exploiting immigrants for my whole life and trumps solution is to send these victims to El Salvador.

You voted for this. YOURE the elitist snob.

#78 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2025-08-04 06:25 PM | FLAG: "

They e been exploited because allowed them to be exploited. Yes, crimping under the table labor wages will result in increased cost of food. But it will also result in higher wages for American citizens.

#85 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-04 07:36 PM | Reply

What a bunch of drama queens. Nobody like gerrymandering but it's been around since this country was founded.
#5 | Posted by BellRinger

I don't like Gerrymandering.
But you don't like Gerrymandering either.
That's why I support Gerrymandering.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Politics is a zero sum game.
#5 | Posted by BellRinger

#86 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-04 07:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

it will also result in higher wages for American citizens.
#85 | POSTED BY BULLBRINGER

Why?

Is your other alias, ScottS?

#87 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-04 07:38 PM | Reply

They e been exploited
#85 | Posted by BellRinger

Sending them to camps is worse than the "exploitation" you claim is occuring. "Exploitation" they volunteered for, by the way.

You're punishing them for being exploited.

Why are you punishing the victims of exploitation?

You are a psychopath and a sadist and a racist.

#88 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-04 07:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

You are a psychopath and a sadist and a racist.
#88 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

That's an appropriate description for the entire MAGA movement.

#89 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-04 07:44 PM | Reply

#78. I'm the one who wants to end the exploitation and that makes ME the elitist snob according to Alexandrite. Makes no sense.

#90 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-04 07:49 PM | Reply

"Trump is opening up thousands of blue collar jobs for Americans"

Maybe over time, but in the short term what I'm seeing in construction says no. Construction jobs are hit with a double whammy, the uncertainty of prices thanks to tariff roulette makes it hard to price things which is causing construction to pull back. Then a lack of workers is slowing the jobs down so that even when you get a job it might be pushed back 2-4 weeks or more. I have two I started in April that I still haven't been able to finish and get my final check for. Not because of me, I have all the materials I have the time I've talked to the PM multiple times and they just aren't ready for my last stage. Usually I run about 4 weeks from start to finish on a project like this. Then any project that was getting any kind of federal funding is now in limbo and you have a third line of attack on blue collar jobs. Granted that's only in construction, but construction represents a big hunk of blue collar jobs that are NOT being created.

So no, disruptions of the supply chain due to tariffs, disruptions of the labor chain due to ICE, and disruption of funding due to DOGE have caused less work for blue collar workers in construction.

#91 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2025-08-04 07:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Yes, crimping under the table labor wages will result in increased cost of food. But it will also result in higher wages for American citizens."

That's not what Trump told America. He said he'd be bringing prices down on day one.

NONE of this brings prices down. And the tariffs are nothing but additional taxes paid by American consumers and importers.

#92 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-08-04 08:04 PM | Reply

Once we get rid of all the gross brown people I hate, billionaires will become generous and raise wages for everyone!
#90 | POSTED BY BULLBRINGER

You're a racist ------.

Also. Trump is a ------- pedophile.

You continue to support him because you fantasize about raping underaged girls.

#93 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-04 08:09 PM | Reply

sending people to el salvador without due process is not "ending exploitation" you fool.

go mow your postage stamp in suburbia.

#94 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-04 08:27 PM | Reply

Yes, crimping under the table labor wages will result in increased cost of food. But it will also result in higher wages for American citizens.

I'd love to hear how this will happen.

Why will billionaires suddenly choose to increase wages.

Do you believe they're all racist xenophobes, like you, who don't want to pay brown people the same wages they're willing to pay white people?

Must be the reason, right?

#95 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-04 08:28 PM | Reply

Makes no sense.

#90 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER AT 2025-08-04 07:49 PM | REPLY

write better strawmen next time, junior.

#96 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-04 08:29 PM | Reply

Lil Jeffy the working class hero that votes to send ICE to home depot.

Make it make sense.

#97 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-04 08:32 PM | Reply

" That's not what Trump told America. He said he'd be bringing prices down on day one.

NONE of this brings prices down. And the tariffs are nothing but additional taxes paid by American consumers and importers.

#92 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2025-08-04 08:04 PM | FLAG: "

Yes. I totally agree with you on this.

#98 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-04 08:34 PM | Reply

" sending people to el salvador without due process is not "ending exploitation" you fool.

go mow your postage stamp in suburbia.

#94 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2025-08-04 08:27 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Illegal immigration has so much human, sex and drug trafficking baked in. Are you not aware of it or do you not give a rip?

#99 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-04 08:46 PM | Reply

sending people to el salvador or ICE to home depot does not end that. It doesn't even address it.

Trump is just hurting people. You're sick.

#100 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-04 08:48 PM | Reply

much human, sex and drug trafficking

You voted for an adjudicated rapist that's dangling a pardon to Maxwell, a pedophile trafficker. Sit this one out.

#101 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-04 08:50 PM | Reply

#78. I'm the one who wants to end the exploitation
#90 | Posted by BellRinger

You don't want to end the exploitation.
You want to send the exploited workers to camps.
Your policy is built on exploiting the workers by denying their rights.

Your policy is built on the lie that People in the United States do not have the Constitutional right to Due Process.

That's the exploitation.

#102 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-04 08:50 PM | Reply

Illegal immigration has so much human, sex and drug trafficking baked in. Are you not aware of it or do you not give a rip?
#99 | Posted by BellRinger

How does sending the trafficked and exploited humans to camps curb the demand for trafficed and exploited humans?

According to the law of supply and demand, that increases the demand for human trafficking.

#103 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-04 08:52 PM | Reply

My point is, I don't view this type of work as beneath me.
#48 | Posted by BellRinger

It it's not beneath you, why are you sending the workers to camps?

Because it's not the work.
It's the people.

The whole thing about "workers" is a canard.
It's the people who are beneath you.

Literally, in the case of trafficked people.

#104 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-04 09:13 PM | Reply

I'm the one who wants to end the exploitation and that makes ME the elitist snob according to Alexandrite. Makes no sense.

#90 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

No, you're just trying to spin being a bigoted a^%hole into something that soothes your ego. You have zero desire for anyone other than yourself to believe it. Just like the vast majority on the right who call themselves Chreestian.

#105 | Posted by jpw at 2025-08-04 09:19 PM | Reply

"For God's Sakes... end all the cat eating!" - Brainless Pole

#106 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-04 09:23 PM | Reply

BullBringer skipping right over this lie of his:

Yes, crimping under the table labor wages will result in increased cost of food. But it will also result in higher wages for American citizens.

I'd love to hear how this will happen.

Why will billionaires suddenly choose to increase wages.

Do you believe they're all racist xenophobes, like you, who don't want to pay brown people the same wages they're willing to pay white people?

Must be the reason, right?

#95 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

#107 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-04 09:41 PM | Reply

Take the L, jeffy. Jesus.

#108 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-04 09:59 PM | Reply

www.npr.org

JASMINE GARSD, BYLINE: Every so often Al Juhnke, executive director of the Nebraska Pork Producers Association, says that he'll get a phone call from a farmer. It goes something like this.

AL JUHNKE: Al, I got a great idea.

GARSD: On how to solve Nebraska's severe labor shortage.

JUHNKE: Why don't we invite any immigrant - legal, illegal, I don't care - invite them to Nebraska, 'cause we have lots of openings out on our farm, and we need help.

GARSD: Juhnke smiles warily. He and several dozen other Nebraska advocacy and business groups have formed an alliance to demand a reform of federal immigration laws and state policy. They want an expansion of worker visa programs and a pathway to residency for immigrants already here.

JUHNKE: And these are good-paying jobs in the plants.

JUHNKE: People say, well, just double or triple the pay. You'll get United States citizens to work. No, you won't.

GARSD: Nebraska needs immigrants. But Nebraskans overwhelmingly voted for incoming President Donald Trump, who has promised to carry out mass deportations. When asked about it, Juhnke echoes what a lot of people here say.

#109 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-08-04 10:26 PM | Reply

Ballwasher and all the MAGAT traitors can go ---- themselves.

#110 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-08-04 10:51 PM | Reply

And if we do run short we can always hand out more work visas and have people enter in an orderly and controlled manner.

#39 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

lol. "In an orderly and controlled manner!"

So you live in a cave? Trumpy has done nothing in an orderly and controlled manner yet. Why would he start now?

#111 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-04 11:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Jeffy lives in a Cult run by the most vile person to ever disgrace the WH and the Nation.

#112 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-04 11:22 PM | Reply

And if we do run short we can always hand out more work visas and have people enter in an orderly and controlled manner.
#39 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

You can't actually think people want to come to a country where migrants have no Due Process protections and get sent to camps while renewing their paperwork.

#113 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-05 07:15 AM | Reply

"Trump is opening up thousands of blue collar jobs for Americans"

In focus groups people where asked:

Who wants to bring manufacturing jobs back to America? 75% of the group said yes.

Who wants to work in a factory? 20% said yes.

The glory days of blue collar manufacturing are gone.

The unemployment rate in manufacturing has jumped from 2.9% in Feb 25 to 4.2% in July.

Stinky's tariffs and economic chaos is hurting ALL industries.

#114 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-08-05 08:10 AM | Reply

Sending them to camps is worse than the "exploitation" you claim is occuring.

In the camps they "work" for $1 per day.

Legalized slavery for showing up for an immigration check in appointment, replacing a lost green card, or meeting to apply for citizenship.

Your hero is doing that, you voted for it and sully support it. So take your lame claims of exploitation and stuff them.

If you really cared, you'd be calling for the jailing of employers that exploit the undocumented workers.

#115 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-08-05 08:15 AM | Reply

Texas is trying to help Trump keep the House so that it is easier for him to destroy democracy and establish Fascism as the basis for government in the US. This is the unitary president and the permanent GOP majority that the GOP has wanted for decades. Donald Trump is just the simple-minded disposable tool to get the GOP where it already wants to go.

Part two will be flashy fascist candidates like Bukele running for office and holding them for life.

#116 | Posted by Hickory at 2025-08-05 08:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

We were spending $20,000 per person just to deport someone do you agree with that?
"Over the last five fiscal years, it cost an estimated average of $19,599 to deport one person"
www.cbsnews.com

So, twenty grand to open up a job making $7.25 an hour, and that's assuming it's actually eligible for minimum wage and not an agricultural sub-minimum.

Have you figured out when this program pays for itself?

Have you figured out it was never intended to help American blue collar workers?

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-04 04:28 PM | Reply | Flag:
(Choose)

Sure, it would cost Democrats $20k per person after all the kick backs to Dem leaders. Under Trump it was $1000 and a plane ticket.

#117 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-08-05 12:32 PM | Reply

"Under Trump it was $1000 and a plane ticket."

^
You're stupid.

"The United States paid El Salvador approximately $6 million to detain about 300 alleged members of the Venezuelan Tren de Aragua gang for one year"

#118 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-05 01:45 PM | Reply

Democracy = MOB rule.

#119 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-08-05 01:47 PM | Reply

Democracy = MOB rule.
#119 | Posted by MSgt

^
When the mob gets voted in, like in 1933 or 2024, then yes, you are correct.

#120 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-05 03:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Democracy = MOB rule.
#119 | POSTED BY MSGT AT 2025-08-05 01:47 PM | FLAG:

Yes, we all know you're a fascist who worships an authoritarian.

#121 | Posted by YAV at 2025-08-05 10:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#116 ... Texas is trying to help Trump keep the House so that it is easier for him to destroy democracy and establish Fascism as the basis for government in the US. ...

I disagree with the "trying to help" part.

Texas is, imo, just following Pres trump' orders.

Why would Pres trump want to maintain a House majority?

Perhaps, so he can dictate to the House in January 2029 to not certify the election results?

"When someone is President of the United States, the authority is total, and that is the way it has to be. It's total. It's total." -- Pres Trump, Apr. 13, 2020

#122 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-08-05 11:46 PM | Reply

I disagree with the "trying to help" part.

Texas is, imo, just following Pres trump' orders.

You see there being a difference between the two?

#123 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-06 12:05 AM | Reply

"Democracy = MOB rule.
#119 | Posted by MSgt"

MSGT IS A fASCIST? Who knew? Omly everyone!

^

#124 | Posted by danni at 2025-08-06 07:33 AM | Reply

"Alexandrite channeling 1860 Dems, "If we don't have slaves, who will pick our cotton?"

#67 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-04 06:13 PM | Reply"

Liar never buys produce picked by undocumented immigrants; every tomato, every strawberry he buys is certified that it was picked by an American citizen! Who does he think he's fooling?

#125 | Posted by danni at 2025-08-06 08:20 AM | Reply

I pick mine up from Home Depot. I'm now a champion of the Undocumented for providing this employment.

#126 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-08-06 10:59 AM | Reply

Be me convenient if they hung out in front of Lowes then I wouldn't have to make 2 stops.

#127 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-08-06 11:00 AM | Reply

"I pick mine up from Home Depot."

You pick up your tomatoes and strawberries at Home Depot?

Are the immigrants bringing them in fresh from the fields to Home Depot before they rot?

Thanks for the tip! I have been looking for some good fresh tomatoes. Have you noticed they are disappearing? All you can get at Costco are these tiny ones now. Haven't seen beefsteaks in months.

#128 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-06 11:12 AM | Reply

Lowes & Home Depot, along with the gardening labor. Except for the Garden Gems, those only come from Klee Lab.

#129 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-08-06 11:25 AM | Reply

I tried to get some white people but they're not built for manual labor anymore.

#130 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-08-06 11:27 AM | Reply

Ask jeff, he mows his lawn.

#131 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-06 11:33 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

I've got 8 cubic yards of hard pack clay to excavate. Jeff aint doing that.

The question is, what's cheaper, a pickup truck full of illegals I can hand shovels, or do I have to rent a bobcat and legal laborer with experience enough to make it fast?

#132 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-08-06 11:40 AM | Reply

Ask jeff, he mows his lawn.

Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-06 11:33 AM | Reply

With a riding lawnmower I bet.

#133 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-08-06 12:09 PM | Reply

" Ask jeff, he mows his lawn.

Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-06 11:33 AM | Reply

With a riding lawnmower I bet.

#133 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2025-08-06 12:09 PM | FLAG: "

6.5 HP Toro self propelled push mower. Effete Alexandrite is really butt hurt that I do my own yard work for some reason.

#134 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-06 12:24 PM | Reply

I think it's hilarious that you would compare yourself to hard working immigrants because you mow your lawn.

#135 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-06 12:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

you're the poster boy for White privilege.

#136 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-06 12:26 PM | Reply

I don't. It's had a landscaping job over the summer when I was in high school. Even as a teenager it was hard work.

#137 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-06 12:27 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

30 years ago I worked hard one summer.

-Lil jeffy

I'm impressed.

#138 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-06 12:28 PM | Reply

Because I do my own yard I'm a poster boy for "white privilege"?

Only effete lefties even use that term. It's so unconsciously racist.

#139 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-06 12:29 PM | Reply

because you mow your lawn.

He's never mowed a lawn, ever.

#140 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-06 12:29 PM | Reply

I do my own yard

In Michigan, the abandoned state.

Bravo.

#141 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-06 12:30 PM | Reply

Like you've ever gotten your hands dirty.

#142 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-06 12:30 PM | Reply

No, because you think doing suburban yard work is at all relevant to a discussion about immigration.

That's why you're a White privileged little ----.

That and getting around your multiple bans here, because the rules do not apply to you.

#143 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-06 12:31 PM | Reply

You are a racist cuck because you believe the only way to do physical labor is to sneak brown people in illegally because nobody else would stoop so low to do that kind of work. Clearly you don't know any farmers.

#144 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-06 12:34 PM | Reply

cool strawman, bro.

When does the cleaning staff come to do your 3000 square foot house in suburbia?

#145 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-06 12:35 PM | Reply

Clearly you don't know any farmers.

I grew up on a soybean farm in Monroe Michigan.

Idiot.

#146 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-06 12:36 PM | Reply

I don't have a cleaning staff, ---. Never have.

#147 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-06 12:37 PM | Reply

A soybean farm? Now you are a soy boy. Perfect.

#148 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-06 12:38 PM | Reply

If you actually cleaned your own house you would have bragged about it by now.

Your poor wife.

#149 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-06 12:38 PM | Reply

Jeff the homophobe whitest privileged douche.

Everything you say is a lie. No one here respects you, yet you beg claw and steal to get back here every time you're banned.

#150 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-06 12:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

House cleaning is nothing to brag about. It's just manual chores that people do. Last night I spent an hour cleaning the kitchen because it was what needed to get done.

If you have a point to all of this it's long past time to make it.

#151 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-06 12:41 PM | Reply

Like an ever growing number of lefties Alexandrite's reaction to opposing viewpoints is to try and cancel, censor , ban ... .

#152 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-06 12:43 PM | Reply

covid misinformation is not an "opposing viewpoint".

Go kill people on your own website.

#153 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-06 12:45 PM | Reply

BullBringer and Trump have a lot in common, they're both proud, greedy, xenophobic, racist liars who haven't a clue how the American economy works.

#154 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-06 12:45 PM | Reply

#152
Cluelessly amusing beyond parody.

#155 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-08-06 12:46 PM | Reply

Who's fatter, Trump or BullBringer?

My money is on BullBringer.

#156 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-06 12:49 PM | Reply

No one here respects you, yet you beg claw and steal to get back here every time you're banned.
#150 | Posted by Alexandrite

He doesn't understand that nobody respects him.
He doesn't understand what respect is.

He thinks respect is when the police asks you for your papers in a No-ID state and you comply out of fear.
Instead of respecting yourself and your Constitution enough to assert your rights.

#157 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-06 12:52 PM | Reply

My money is on BullBringer.

Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-06 12:49 PM | Reply

I don't think Jeff is fatter than Trump. I think Jeff is around 260ish. Be my guest.

#158 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-08-06 12:53 PM | Reply

#156
Trump must be a 52-incher, at least, marooned in 5X territory.

#159 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-08-06 12:54 PM | Reply

You are a racist cuck because you believe the only way to do physical labor is to sneak brown people in illegally because nobody else would stoop so low to do that kind of work. Clearly you don't know any farmers.
#144 | Posted by BellRinger

Nobody believes that.
Fact is, about half of agricultural workers who are not citizens.
Noticing that fact is noticing that it's racist.

Rounding up those workers, denying them Due Process, and sending them to camps doesn't undo the racism.
It actually underscores the racism.

#160 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-06 12:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Covid was 5 years ago.

#161 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-06 12:59 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Like an ever growing number of lefties Alexandrite's reaction to opposing viewpoints is to try and cancel, censor , ban ... .

#152 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

How totally unaware or in denial of reality can a guy be?

Even While Railing Against It, the Republican Party Has Become a Champion of Cancel Culture

Colbert - Canceled!
PBS-Canceled!
Transgenders- Canceled!
Anything LGBTQ- Canceled!
Books they don't like - Canceled!
DEI- Canceled!
Women's healthcare rights- Canceled!
Drag Queens-Canceled!
Bud Light- Canceled!
Disney- Canceled! (Or at least harassed into silence)
Birthright citizenship- Canceled!
Due process- Canceled!
Separation of Church and State- Canceled!
Being "woke" - Canceled!
Dept of Education- Canceled!
Foreign aid (soft diplomacy) - Cancelled
Mr Potato head - Canceled!
Anyone who disagrees with the Mad King -Canceled!
(Pretty sure I am missing a few but I bet you get the point)

#162 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-06 01:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

So I'm guessing Alexandrite was too privileged to work sky beans and his mother aren't exclusively employed illegal aliens. It certainly explains a lot about him and his worldview.

The farmers I know are all family run and they only employ US citizens and family.

#163 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-06 01:09 PM | Reply

Covid was 5 years ago.
#161 | Posted by BellRinger

United States COVID-19 Deaths, Emergency Department (ED) Visits, and Test Positivity by Geographic Area

TEST POSITIVITY (PAST WEEK)
6.5%
ABSOLUTE CHANGE FROM PRIOR WEEK
1.6%
TEST POSITIVITY (PAST 2 WEEKS)
4.8%
covid.cdc.gov

#164 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-06 01:09 PM | Reply

#162. All of that is market driven. That's not cancellation like a woke mob attacking someone online or numerous attempts to destroy a Christian baker in Colorado.

#165 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-06 01:10 PM | Reply

covid misinformation is not an "opposing viewpoint".
#153 | Posted by Alexandrite

Covid was 5 years ago.
#161 | Posted by BellRinger

^
You supported misinformation five years ago, and you're still in favor of misinformation today.

#166 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-06 01:11 PM | Reply

The farmers I know are all family run and they only employ US citizens and family.

Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-06 01:09 PM | Reply

Why are you lying Jeff?? When you get your tests caught in the proverbial wringer you lie about this.

#167 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-08-06 01:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

PBS-Canceled!
Books they don't like - Canceled!
Birthright citizenship- Canceled!
Dept of Education- Canceled!
Separation of Church and State- Canceled!
#162 | Posted by donnerboy

#162. All of that is market driven.
#165 | Posted by BellRinger

None of that is market driven.
All of that is to serve the Project 2025 Republican Agenda.

There is nothing you won't lie about, JeffJ.
Nothing.

#168 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-06 01:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The farmers I know are all family run and they only employ US citizens and family."

Like they'd tell a Republican that they are employing undocumented workers...

You lie to us constantly. You should expect the same from anyone who has low enough standards to be your acquaintance in real life.

#169 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-06 01:19 PM | Reply

Clearly you don't know any farmers.
#144 | Posted by BellRinger

Clearly you don't either.

Most "farmers" now spend more time in their office focused on activities like data integration and keeping software updated, reducing the amount of time spent with their hands in the soil.

They obviously still work in the fields but because their farms are so massive and require automation data analytics and even drones they hire laborers for most of the grunt work.

#170 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-06 01:20 PM | Reply

It's Okay I lied 5 years ago.

-Lil jeffy

#171 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-06 01:34 PM | Reply

So I'm guessing Alexandrite was too privileged to work sky beans

Wrong again, moron.

When I left I went into construction until two discs in my back blew out.

I know what hard work is. You don't. Now go brag about your paper route in 8th grade.

#172 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-06 01:36 PM | Reply

I had a paper route in 6th and 7th grade.

Sorry about your back. Blown out discs is awful.

#173 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-06 01:41 PM | Reply

So I'm guessing Alexandrite was too privileged to work sky beans and his mother aren't exclusively employed illegal aliens. It certainly explains a lot about him and his worldview.
The farmers I know are all family run and they only employ US citizens and family.

#163 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-06 01:09 PM | Reply

What is this gibberish? Anyone translate?

#174 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-06 01:41 PM | Reply

Sorry about your back. Blown out discs is awful.

#173 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-06 01:41 PM | Reply | Flag

I'm fine now, thanks. I get shots and lost all the "quit smoking" weight.

Now I work two jobs, both at a desk, so I eat very little to keep the weight off.

#175 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-06 01:42 PM | Reply

" I'm fine now, thanks"

Good.

You and I trade barbs but I don't wish anything bad on you.

#176 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-06 01:48 PM | Reply

I don't wish anything bad on anyone, even trump.

#177 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-06 01:48 PM | Reply

" What is this gibberish? Anyone translate?

#174 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2025-08-06 01:41 PM | FLAG: "

Bad phone typing and auto correct on evil setting. Forget it. Not important.

#178 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-06 01:49 PM | Reply

You and I trade barbs but I don't wish anything bad on you.
#176 | Posted by BellRinger

But you do wish bad things on us, with your vote.

#179 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-06 01:50 PM | Reply

The farmers I know are all family run and they only employ US citizens and family.
#163 | POSTED BY BULLBRINGER

Michigan, the bread basket of America!

This idiot is so dense.

#180 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-06 02:05 PM | Reply

you'd be surprised how many farms we have in SE michigan.

Mostly hops now, though. Trump killed the soybean market.

#181 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-06 02:08 PM | Reply

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