#18 Page wasn't spied on?

fter a watchdog group already investigated but found nothing to suggest "spying" or anything illegal, you think Durham is going to find something incredible?
Good luck with that. Want to re-open Benghazi for a fifth time too?

#11 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2019-12-12 11:56 AM | FLAG:

You are a little late to the game. It has already been proven that Page was spied on and the warrant that was used to do it was optained through multiple errors. The question now is whether those errors were due to incompetence or politics. Too many errors to be incompetence.

Barr is unfit to be a dog catcher. Like the President is also violating his oath of office. He should also be impeached. Too bad that won't happen. No one should be allowed to lie so obviously to the American People.
Welcome the Beginning of the End of our Republic.

#17 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY AT 2019-12-12 01:45 PM | FLAG:

How specifically is he violating his oath of office? How has he lied to the American people? Give us specifics and back them up. Don't just say he is unfit because he has proved you and the other shills wrong for the past three years.

#7 Spot on. All of the other posters on this thread are completely clueless about what is going on. This is a big deal that every American should hope gets exposed, people go to jail and the process gets fixed. The Dems are putting a good spin on it though saying yes the process is flawed but not those who flawed the process. The report has proven otherwise and Comey, Brennon and many in the media have either been blatently wrong or have blatently lied for the last three years.

Um, the butt hurt Repubicans, more specifically, the butthurt president of the US, started the investigation because his crimes and collusion keep getting exposed and he needs to point at someone or something other than himself before his daddy, Putin, gets mad at him.
The Russia investigation started well before the election took place, it's not the Dem's fault that the Drumpf campaign kept showing up in the results.

#19 | POSTED BY CHUFFY AT 2019-12-10 04:53 PM | REPLY | FUNNY: 1

Someone should have told Mueller, he obviously missed it.

As for omissions of information, I suspect a reading of the actual chapters is necessary as opposed to the summary. Why? Because the obvious angle for Trumpers is that it was intentional. For me, I suspect it's more nuanced and complicated than that.

#327 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2019-12-10 04:23 PM | FLAG:

Yes that would be wise, just read it.

I can see why you might want that to be the reason for the start of the IG investigation.
Unfortunately, that is not the reason the investigation was started.
#15 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER AT 2019-12-10 04:01 PM | FLAG:

Right, it was started because the butt hurt dems needed to try and find an excuse why their crappy candidate lost. Just listen to Hillary already, last week it was Bernie Sanders, next week it will be a bunion.

Barr should have recused himself, and based on his comments and his accompanying Durham everywhere he goes, Durham isn't running the investigation, Barr is.

#308 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY AT 2019-12-10 03:13 PM | FLAG:

Durham works for Barr. We let Mueller run his investigation why don't you want Barr and Durham to run theirs? What are you afraid of? Sound familar?

"The reporting did terrible damage to a new president as he took office"
Such as?
Just give me some bullet points.
Thanks.

#310 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2019-12-10 03:27 PM | FLAG:

A two year investigation saying he was illegitimate would be a start. Two years of having to defend himself while running the country is a pretty big one. Being called a traitor and saying he should be punished for treason...........etc.

.Attorney General Bill Barr dismissed some of the findings of the Justice Department's inspector general report in an interview with NBC News on Tuesday, saying he doesn't agree that there was "sufficient predication" to open a counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign and that the prosecutor he appointed will have the final say.
"I think our nation was turned on its head for three years. I think based on a completely bogus narrative that was largely fanned and hyped by an irresponsible press. And I think that there were gross abuses of FISA. And inexplicable behavior that is intolerable in the FBI.
"And the attorney general's primary responsibility is to protect against the abuse of the law enforcement and intelligence apparatus, and make sure that it doesn't play an improper role in our political life. That's my responsibility. And I'm going to carry it out."

Why it matters: Inspector General Michael Horowitz's report concluded that while there were some serious missteps pertaining to the FBI's surveillance of former Trump campaign aide Carter Page, the Russia investigation was adequately predicated and was not tainted by political bias.

Sounds like AG Barr wants to keep on having investigations until he gets one that provides the conclusions he wants to see.
I like his deflection to put blame for all that is wrong upon the press, and none of the blame on the occupant of the Oval Office.

#6 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER AT 2019-12-10 01:46 PM | FLAG:

Because that is the responsibility of the press and as far as the IG report saying there was no political bias his job was not to make that conclussion, his job was to conclude whether the FBI and CIA made mistakes in obtaining warrants, he found 17 mistakes. So two reasons for the mistakes, they were either grossly incompetant or they did it on purpose. If it was for the later it was political.

#304 Mueller should have recused himself, and based on his testimony he didn't actually run it anyway, Weissmann did.

#303 And Geeksoftly, before you rip Durham remember he worked for Holder and the Obama administration.

I'm sure you'll trust the results from the investigation done by men already proven to be partisan corrupt servants of trump than you trust these results. Because you're so nonpartisan and intelligent.
Anything barr pukes out will be a fraud. The fact that you think you could trust anything that comes from him just shows your continued voluntary ignorance about this administration and your party.

#290 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2019-12-10 01:57 PM | FLAG:

Ding, ding, ding we have a winner! That's right let's already say the investigation is tainted because of who is running it. Evidence be damned, Barr is a Trump crowny. Well done Speak, what took you so long?

And I'm sure you'd say the exact same thing if obama had taken help from the russians to get elected, not told the authorities, lied about it, used his presidential powers to obstruct an investigation into it. YOu'd totally be defending him wouldn't you?

#284 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2019-12-10 01:15 PM | FLAG:

Sure, if we had a two year, 40 million dollar investigation run by the opposing party that said he didn't do that I would accept it unlike you.

using the CIA and FBI to influence and ultimately over turn and election.
Pure garbage.
If it were meant to influence the election there would have been announcements of the investigation during the actual election.
You know, like the ones about the investigation into Hillary's emails.
As for overturning the election, Trump has earned what he's getting. Sorry you're to pathetically stupid and gullible to see it.

#279 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2019-12-10 11:56 AM | FLAG:

You have absolutely no clue about the implications of these investigations. You have zero clue about if these investigations turn over what many think they will turn over what a major problem we have as a country and how badly this part of it needs to be fixed. This is something that is worse than what happens in the country you hate so much, Russia. So unless you want to be called Conrade STFU and pay attention. Your usual name calling about anyone who disagrees with your uninformed views is simply annoying and just makes you look like more of a stooge than you already look.

Your conclusions are completely contrary to the conclusions in the IG report. There was no political motivation in the "oringes" of the investigation; no effort to overturn the election. Saying otherwise 10,000 times won't make it true.

#273 | POSTED BY ANTON AT 2019-12-10 11:47 AM | REPLY

That wasn't what the IG was tasked to decide really and Durham who has a much higher amount of power came out and said their are parts of the IG report that he doesn't agree with. That is telling. When I talk about the differences in power an example is with Comey. Horowitz could not question him because Comey did not re-new his classified status (how convienient) but Durham can question him under oath.

To knowingly use evidence that you know is false, which is undisputed, to get a FISA warrent not once but three times is a major problem
Even if that's an accurate description of what happened, like i said:
(1) If sufficient evidence was also gathered from other sources who were not connected to the FISA warrants then it doesn't matter:
(2) This is a criminal legal theory which doesn't necessarily apply to impeachment proceedings;
(3) The FISA warrants in question have nothing to do with what Trump is being impeached for today; and
(4) Trumpers claim all the evidence proves that Trump was innocent so you shouldn't be in the business of trying to disqualify evidence or call it tainted.

#264 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2019-12-10 11:07 AM | FLAG:

1) The FISA warrent was obtained because of the Steel dossier, that was the evidence that was vouched for and presented.
2)-4) Not linking it to impeachment, separate investigation.

This is a case of the sitting Administration and Presidential candidate using the CIA and FBI to influence and ultimately over turn and election. Problem for them was they thought they would not get caught and they would not have if Clinton had won and Trump was thrown out of office before Barr got involved.

#261 To knowingly use evidence that you know is false, which is undisputed, to get a FISA warrent not once but three times is a major problem. This also proves that Brennon lied before congress. What happened to others who supposidely lied to congress recently? Jail time? Brennon deserves to be behind bars.

The Inspector General's 'Witch Hunt' Report: A Quick and Dirty Analysis
Today, Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz declared in more than 450 pages that the "Witch Hunt" narrative was nonsense. Yes, the investigation had problems"some of them serious. But the problems were not political in character. There was no effort to "get" candidate Trump. There was no "insurance policy." There was no coup. There was no treason.
There was, rather, a properly predicated investigation that began when the FBI has always said it began and because of the information the FBI has always said triggered it. The investigation used proper investigative techniques. And while there were errors along the way, a degree of sloppiness that warrants addressing seriously, the inspector general does not find that any authorized surveillance was illegal.
www.lawfareblog.com

#256 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY AT 2019-12-10 09:39 AM | FLAG:

He didn't use the word "nonsense." He does not have the tools that Durham has and Durham in a rare comment yesterday said he disagreed with some of the IG's analysis. I'm sure he said this because Durham has access to more intel than the AG. Tomorrow's senate hearing should be interesting and if you actually read the report Carter Page should sue the pants off alot of people including many in the media who ruined his life based on false claims. This was a huge abuse of power and people will pay.

#24 You didn't bother to read any of the sections he posted did you? I'm sure you won't understand them anyway so you will have to wait until 9 tonight so Maddow can tell you how to spin them. She will need a week long documentary when it comes to the Durham report.

Chalupa has already been investigated as part of both Horowitz' and Durham's probes. There is nothing there because nothing is there.#4 | POSTED BY TONYROMA AT 2019-12-08 08:39 PM | FLAG:

Wow Tony, you get the Durham report before it's even out?

"The latest economic numbers -- 266,000 jobs"
Why should anyone believe this number?

#4 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2019-12-07 09:27 AM | REPLY

Because they are not Obama's

She lost because of voter suppression in three states.

Who feeds you this crap? Show me one person, just one who said they couldn't vote. If someone can't vote these days they are an idiot and shouldn't have the right to vote anyway.

#37 Sure play the gender card Danni. She lost because voters didn't want another Clinton or another Bush as in Jeb Bush and because she was lazy and her handlers and the media had her winning in a landslide. Trump worked 4 times harder and it paid off. You are just like her, making stupid excuses for her being a bad, lazy candidate. Get over it.