Oh and official song of lockdown

So late to the party and wow you guys went crazy lots of stuff I've never heard before and liked so thanks for that.

Mod posted a great feel good song so to kick off my 9 days of lockdown (yeah my company closed for a week even though we didn't have to and we are getting paid for it so my boss is in my good book)

My only issue is we can bet 99% of this money will go to corporate farms and not small family farms. As pointed out corporate farms are surging while family farms are always struggling.

Not picking up things off the floor, belt gets knocked off. Worst part is it makes a horrendous sound before it comes off that if you stop it and investigate the problem you can prevent the belt coming off. He would just run it over everything and ignore the noise.

When he killed the Dyson I started looking at a beltless one but my other son fixed it and then he finally moved out so now he can kill his own vacuums.

If the stimulus was intended to get people to keep spending

Most of the illegal folks I have ever known send the vast majority of their income back to central/south america so giving them stimulus checks would really be supporting those economies.

#6

Ask my oldest son who manages to kill vacuum cleaners like you wouldn't believe. It's called not picking up before you vacuum.

I finally got a Dyson and he even managed to mess that one up. Fortunately since it's a Dyson my youngest son was able to fix it good as new.

#5

Dude! That's so messed up.

If I even have a tickle in my throat I try and suppress the cough for fear of freaking out anyone within hearing distance. That has been tough since it's allergy season so post-nasal drip is a bear.

Both #10 and #12

Valid points.

A big factor would be how many are going to be interested in giving their information to the government knowing they are illegal. Having a big list of all the undocumented folks who applied for stimulus would, if not immediately, eventually lead to a lot of deportations.

One concept, let them apply for stimulus checks but take down the name of the employer who hired them and then fine the employer the amount of the stimulus check.

I guess there is a panic point where people will buy vegetarian "meat". For the first few days there was plenty of morning star farms and gardein then about a week ago that started to look picked over now it's just as bare as the rest of the shelves. Kinda sucks cause as a vegetarian we were thinking oh no worries we'll be able to get plenty. Now well F me I guess.

Sheets that cost more than my mattress? I thought I over spent on that. Clearly I have some research to do on getting a good nights sleep.

The plan is pretty simple. We have about 3 weeks to peak deaths on round 1 after that we can start loosening restrictions. Which will be about the time the first stimulus check gets here. So people will be able to go out and spend money about the same time they get money to go out and spend.

If Trump were smart he would institute nation wide stay at home order for 3 weeks that would increase the chance of hitting the peak and reducing the odds or severity of round two it would also create even more pent up demand for when the helicopters full of cash fly over.

Boom the V he has been looking for.

Oh and hope round two will hold off until after the election.

#33

He has said before he is in IT what part I don't know as that provides a pretty broad spectrum. He doesn't actually produce a product since he is not a programmer but he either keeps stuff working or secures stuff so I would say that counts. I mean I don't produce a product but I do repair products so if his work doesn't count mine wouldn't either.

BTW since the thread is about NY anyone heard from Hagbard?

#60

So you are saying we need a TARDIS?

Boaz if you make so much you won't get a check and you are married filing jointly that means you make over 198k and that puts your tax rate based on 32k in taxes at 16% or less depending on how much over 198k you make.

Are you really pitching a fit over a 16% tax rate?

The article doesn't say anything different than the 75k we have already read. My wife and I paid close to 8k in federal taxes for 2019 yet we make less than 150k combined so the premise of your headline is false Boaz.

Goat on the N95's I have also heard if you leave it for 9 days you can reuse it because that's long enough for the virus to die, but as with any medical advice on the internet best to check it yourself.

I have 5 N95 surgical masks which I don't use because I don't know how to tie it on correctly. I am going to donate 4 to the hospital and keep one for an absolute emergency. Ironically a nurse gave them to me in December when I worked on her fireplace because she was worried about how much dust and soot I had to breath in while working on a fireplace. I wish I remembered which customer it was I would give them back to her rather than donate if I did.

Oh that's not 50 companies it's 50 things companies did/are doing. Still nice to see but notice Amazon, Apple and Starbucks those liberal darlings each showed up multiple times.

One addition Starbucks has closed all cafe locations and is paying the employees until they reopen. My son works at one he didn't tell me what the pay was based on but he hasn't called to borrow money yet.

#1

I saw the Harbor Freight one a couple days ago. Awesome thing to do especially as that stuff would fly off their shelves if they sold it.

I pretty much never go there as their stuff is mostly crap but when I need stuff that doesn't last in the future I'll be sure to make that my first stop. Not being facetious either some times you just need a tool for one job so might as well get it cheap at HF rather than get a quality one that will collect quality dust in the shop.

#13

I am aware of the math and aware of the effects of the US system on the spread of viruses.

What I get pissed at is folks like bored and a few others I've run into acting like people who have to work are to blame for having to work. Heck even if a shelter at home order goes out I'm in construction/home repair which most shelter at home orders are exempting so even if one were to go in place (probably Friday in my county) I'm still out there working. Honestly since I am immune compromised I wish to heck I could just hunker down in a fort built of TP but ya know, thanks capitalism.

I can't even get upset with my employer we are a small company and I doubt he has the resources to close up indefinitely our rent is probably astronomical and we would lose a ton of customers. Since builders aren't closing up if we aren't there to do it they will go to another company who doesn't shut down. Once the customer is gone it's unlikely they will come back. So really the only hope for me of sheltering in place is I get it AND am symptomatic or a shelter in place order that does not exempt construction and/or home repair.

Effective Monday we are reducing hours and he is paying us for full time so that might help a bit. Also the bulk of my time at work is solo in the field so I'm not around many people on any given day. Mostly just co-workers, and being a big warehouse we are doing a decent job of maintaining 6 feet, and my family. Unfortunately my wife is in retail also a small company so she has had to work as well. Now come Friday it looks like she will be shut down and able to apply for unemployment which will reduce our exposure more. I just hope the owner of the company has the resources to come back after. It's an even smaller business than mine so it's possible that he won't.

For people that are young and healthy that don't care about anyone else, the math leads to letting others die so you can keep more money.

For a lot of us it's not about keeping more money it's about keeping food on the table and a roof over our head. My company hasn't shut down, I'm not sick, no one in my family is sick so I'm not eligible for expanded unemployment. So I either work or starve.

#1

Service workers of all kinds have been at the front lines of this the whole time. We may be on the verge of seeing an attitude shift in how we view service employees.

If things get bad enough you may even see wage or benefit growth for them. Once a store can't staff at current wage levels they will be forced to close or pay more. The ones that choose to pay more have a better chance of surviving if this lasts months so the trend might outlast the virus.

Or I might be a dreamer.

#17

My son has gotten into building electric bikes. Maybe not non-pollution but pretty good. His current bike will go about 70 miles on a charge with an average speed of about 35 so he can keep up with traffic (city streets) on it. It hasn't even really budged our electric bill either I think it takes about 4 cents a week and he rides it just all the time.

Of course he's a dude so it has a top speed of about 70 MPH and could keep up with highway traffic but would only go about 35 miles at that speed. We won't discuss the legality of it. He kept it on a standard bike frame with the widest tires that would support, so at top speed you'll blow a tire pretty easily.

What is really interesting is that he could easily build a commuter ebike running about 40MPH top speed with 150 mile range but that would also be illegal, or at least would have to be registered and would probably require a motorcycle endorsement to ride. The top speed of an unregistered ebike is 20MPH which is pretty useless for a commuter unless they live in a very bike friendly jurisdiction.

So once again we have the technology for many commuters to not require gas guzzling but the laws are lagging.

Mad you are in Germany right now I believe.

From what we are seeing they are doing a good job of testing, containment and treatment. If that's not correct feel free to let me know. Right now they are hanging around .5% mortality.

So the US is doing a terrible job of testing and containment but say we nail the treatment part to get that .5% number. We can, at current, except 70% infection rate so with only .5% mortality we still could see 2 million deaths.

I'm not sure how many people would be ok with that to get back to business as usual quickly.