"This plan to tear communities apart will also ensnare U.S. citizens, green card holders and others here legally, either by accident or with intent. "

This is when your side loses all credibility, and you really need to find another way to make your point. It's possible there will be some economic impacts. However, what you are saying is that you care about the exceptions on one hand but don't care about exceptions on the other. We see stories regularly now of illegal immigrants raping and/or killing Americans. Yet, liberals completely ignore those because they say those are exceptions. This kind of libocracy is what helped the idiot get re-elected. If you go do a blind survey and ask people, "Would you rather be in a situation where you could possible lose your job or get less money, or you could get raped/murdered, which would you choose", I would bet money most people would say they would rather lose their job.

In this kind of context, you can't ignore one inconvenient truth but care wholeheartedly about another without being a hypocrite.

And on the libocracy note:

"Thousands of documented lies in his first term which you gobbled up."

Yet that didn't stop your side of ignoring all of the lies Harris and Biden spread. Just because you want to ignore them and not accept reality doesn't make it any less true. Clean up your own party and then start pointing fingers.

This is where extremism comes in to play and liberals aren't innocent of it either. A good idea quickly goes bad when someone goes too far. First off, immigration from Mexicans has been very low and, in some cases, negative for the last 10 years. It's immigrants from other countries going through Mexico who are the problem. That being said, investing in Mexico is what America should be doing instead of outsourcing to Poland, Malaysia, and all the other countries not named India. We need India purely from a defensive standpoint. But Mexico is the perfect opportunity to change a bad situation to something better. If we prop up Mexico's economy, less want to come here. The more prosperous Mexico is, the better off we are. And, in a purely personal viewpoint just by sheer proximity, most people in American can understand Spanglish than they can broken English from far away countries. When I work with some Mexican counterparts, I don't nearly the language barrier I do with others.

But, Trump can't help himself from going to extremes on immigration because it hurts his and his rich friend's pocketbooks who have millions of dollars invested in those other countries.

Congratulations, you know math 101 now.

Migrants are cannibalizing themselves. Yes, they take jobs Americans don't want. But guess what, those jobs aren't infinite. There is only a certain demand for them. So one group comes in, gets those jobs, and live well in America, and start getting more for their skills. Then the next group comes in, takes those jobs the first group got for less money, and then the cycle starts over. So, it only stands to reason those losing their jobs due to new migrants are going to start understanding the plight so many Americans are talking about that liberals seem to just want to ignore. There are only so many jobs. There are only so many affordable houses. There are only so many amenities available. As new migrants take those jobs, migrants that have been here longer are hurting.

"Makes it look like Joklahoma is a place tolerable to young hipsters, even those with dark skin or ovaries."

The insinuation you make is kind of funny. Many liberals moving out of CA, OR, and WA are moving to more center or conservative states. Yet other liberals still can't make the connection that those states have become so terrible that these people see a brighter future in less liberal states.

tldr: If someone else holds a different opinion than me, I whine about it.

It is only a surprise to so many liberals who refuse to accept reality. Steve Kerr illustrated it the best in his most recent statement when he sarcastically mantioned illegal immigrants raping citizens. He and other liberals only do that because they refuse to accept that illegal immigrants ARE raping and killing women, but since that doesn't jive with their "illegal immigrants are the best things ever and our country is doomed without them" mantra. I'm just hoping this election result wakes many of them up to reality. Not saying they have to like inconvenient truths but they really need to start governing them.

I sure hope they can pull it off. This country should NEVER have all three branches controlled by one party. Besides, both parties have proven in our history that even when they do control all three branches they still get very little done so it's not even an effective way to govern like both parties claim when they do get that kind of power.

"50/50 or 51/49 is not predicting a win."

While some did, the overwhelming majority of them predicted a much larger win. But that's just because of numbers, there are a TON more liberal outlets than there are con, so that's just how math works.

"Where was that introspection and humility from you when Trump lost in 2020?? Nowhere to be found. So stick a sock in it you hypocrite."

Nice shot! While Dems are the leaders of hypocrisy, it's fun to finally see when it can be used against Reps. I predict we are going to see a lot more from Reps now as opposed to the last time Trump was in office, mainly because they didn't inherent a country going through a really tough time like Obama and Biden did. So now they have less to stand on and have to resort to stupid political tactics again. Ahhh, business as usual finally.

The only thing this election proved is, once again, this country is split down the middle. Either side who wins is only representative of half the people. Yet, both sides use these kinds of results to act like America agrees with everything they do and wants to push that specific party's agenda to the extreme. So that's what happens, each.and.every.time.

And then the losing party whines and cries about it and says America is doomed...until the next election they are in power and then all of a sudden this country is the best thing ever.

I hate to see this continue to happen. We never fix anything because of it. The same issues that were around when I was a kid are still problems today and both sides always respond it's because of the other party.

I can do you one better. I know of 2 people who tried to kill the Republican candidate recently.

Oh, are we supposed to not bring that up? Sorry, I didn't get the liberal hypocrisy memo.

Wow. Sometimes I do still get shocked at the level of hypocrisy from liberals. Liberals are the ones fighting across the country to restore the voting rights of all convicted felons. But now it's a bad thing for some reason.

O M G, you mean to tell me that anything one party doesn't like because they have different ideologies is vilified. Well golly gee willikers, this is the very first time I've ever seen that happen, ever. Well, since at least yesterday.

"It makes you wonder, then, whether the point of all the false claims isn't just to generally undermine trust in the process. ..."

Of course it is. It's been like that for decades, kid. There's a reason why every loser (even Dems) of a POTUS election in the last 24 years (at least) have filed many lawsuits after an election. Stick around kid, next thing you will see are the losers vilifying everything the new POTUS does.

Ding ding ding...the first election denier I've heard so far. Ok, who bet on TFDNIHILIST? You win the conspiracy lottery.

Ukraine's war will be over shortly. - Never should have started in the first place but when you have a weak Dem leader, them's the breaks.

Israel will soon have the most beautiful developments rivaling Monte Carol on the west coast of expanded Israel. - Or Israel will finally get peace from a group of people that attacked and killed 1200 civilians...oh, and a group of people Israel provided autonomy and independence to years ago but the group of people proved they don't want to be left alone, they want to kill all Jews. The evidence is all out there, you just have to be objective and cut the puppet strings of your party.

Oh - and Palestinians won't be a problem any longer. - For the world's sake, let's hope so. Not that they are killed but that they finally accept Israel wants nothing to do with them and just wants to exist (you know, like liberals are saying Palestinians want but hypocritically do not want that for Israel).

We're not going to have Income taxes any longer. Everything will be paid for by tariffs that companies in other nations will pay. - Thus leading to more jobs in America; the job creation numbers in the last few months don't lie.

There's going to be a little "bump" as our new bestie China adjusts to the tariffs. Russia and North Korea, though, will immediately be our new besties. Beautiful love letters. - You mean having good relations with foreign entities. I am trying to figure out exactly when Dems decided that having good relations with other countries became a bad thing (without injecting made up conspiracies).

Trump will heal us all. Partly by disappearing those nasty people that have "threatened" him. - You mean like the Clinton's have been doing for decades now? Btw, even though both statements are stupid, there is way more evidence proving the guilt of Clinton's than there is with Trump, just saying.

And jobs for Americans will be plentiful, a large part of those jobs will be manning deportation camps. - So getting rid of people here illegally seems to be a worse proposition than turning Americans against each other, e.g. thousands of new IRS agents to ensure we all are controlled as much as possible. Oh, and jobs that solely exist to DEIvide Americans instead of trying to build bridges.

Prices will go back to what they were before inflation. Never mind the way economics actually works - or FVM/PVM concepts. Those are all nonsense perpetrated by "The Elite" of "Economics". - Dems have sat in the POTUS seat the last 12 of 16 years and the economy has been the same beast as it has always been. The only thing truly wrecking our economy are partisan people thinking we live in an economic utopia whenever their party is in the seat, thus not doing anything effective to try to make it actually better.

When you look at the country through objective eyes and not through your puppet masters' strings, things get a lot clearer. I'm not saying anything I've written above is true but they are just as viable as anything you've said. Get rid of your fearmongering and partisan ideology and you will be a much happier person and an American doing what is best for America.

It is very deeply concerning that liberals actually take opinionated statements made by someone who was fired by the person they are talking about. It doesn't matter if it is a Dem or a Rep, if the person was fired I rarely ever take their opinions about that person as valid. But, partisan blinders just makes people do this for some reason.

Well, since Harris lies all the time, this means nothing. Once we get a candidate that doesn't lie will be the day I vote again.

I am shocked. Wow. You mean to tell me that a blue state's audit shows very trivial numbers and red state's audits show most likely bloated numbers. It's almost as if there is a connection between party agenda and audit results...but no, that could never happen, right?

"Long story short, Apple's Walled Garden (i.e., the restrictions that Apple seems to impost upon its customers) were not something I wanted to support."

Apple only has one clear advantage over Windows, which is connectivity. I have supported both OSs for many years in my life and man I love when I am using Apple and everything just works. I tested one time and used an old set of ear buds, 2 old printers, and a tablet (Samsung) and tested to see which OS would seamlessly connect all of them with the smallest amount of effort and Apple won hands down. I was blown away because the ear buds were over 5 years old and one of the printers was older than that (don't remember when I had gotten it). And the Mac just rocked all of those devices. I was able to get them all to work on Windows but for people who haven't been in IT their whole lives, they would never have been able to do it.

Other than that, Windows holds all other advantages (yes, even inherent security).

"So, the Red states seems to be more authoritarian, more likely to ignore the will of those who voted them into power."

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow. An actual article put on DR for the DR lib kids to read that mostly offers an actual picture of what partisan politics is doing to our country and kids like you STILL use it as a way to attack another party...thereby providing even more supporting evidence to the article.

"... The data shows that blue monopolies channel the goals of their voters, while red monopolies channel the agendas of their legislators (often at the expense of voters). ..."

Did you even think critically at all about this statement? Legislators are VOTED IN MY VOTERS. So their agendas meet the agendas of their voters. It's so freaking completely crystal clear but written in a biased way that the fact you can't comprehend it means you are even younger than you come across or you actively refuse to think about what is being presented and just accept anything your masters tell you. The alternative to that biased statement doesn't match reality when red voters in red states clearly support their candidates. It's not like they are showing hate against the people they vote in and, in fact, it's clearly the opposite by red voter's inability to accept anyone else (just like blue voters).

Not being able to clearly see biased statements is something that the liberal party falls for way more than cons, which is why

"The recent abortion votes in a couple three of the Red states illustrate that."

But more voters in red states agree with strict abortion controls, so your point is invalid. And when more blue voters care, they actually vote against those laws than the cons who just don't care at all and don't waste time voting on the issue.

So...freaking...crystal...clear bias. And people still have problems seeing it.

Illegal immigration is costing America FAAAAAAAAAAAAAR more than any gains but that doesn't stop Dems from wanting to spend that money. I know liberals are run by their egos so they refuse to accept that any opinion they have could have negatives so they won't understand what I'm saying, but that doesn't change reality.

"Biden will get the blame. Got to have some bogeyman to blame, rather than the MAGA hero, a fat orange criminal insurrectionist and golf cheat..."

Like Biden and Harris blaming Trump for every problem even 4 years after he is out of office?

If liberals don't have past, impossible-to-prove allegations against someone...they have nothing. In the absence of sound, logical strategy, it only makes sense they would keep finding people who would do this.

And, I easily ignore (but do not dismiss) when the same thing happens to Dems. Unfortunately for them though, Reps don't have to resort to spontaneous, TDS allegations to get votes like Dems do.