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Monday, July 06, 2020

A Florida mother allegedly took her high-risk teenage daughter to a "COVID party" at their church, tried treating the girl at home with unproven drugs when she got sick --- and then hailed her as a patriot after she died.


Saturday, June 27, 2020

Trump had it all: Home-field advantage, an adoring audience, a pitcher who was determined to make him look good by serving up nothing but softballs, and yet again the president struck out. read more


Friday, June 26, 2020

Colorado has reopened the investigation into the death of Elijah McClain after an online petition garnered more than 3 million signatures. McClain, a black male, died in police custody in 2019. He was stopped when he was walking home from a convenience store by police responding after a 911 caller who had driven by Elijah claimed he "looks sketchy" and said "he might be a good person or a bad person." Four cops showed up to confront McClain. It is unclear what reason the police gave him for the stop but body cam show they grabbed him and he tensed up and told the cops he was an unarmed, nonviolent introvert and to respect his boundaries. They placed him in a chokehold and took the 140lb vegetarian to the ground. One cop kneeled on his chest while two others held him down and handcuffed him. One cop is heard telling another to move his body cam out of view before claiming McClain went for one of their guns. Another is heard threatening to get a dog to bite him. read more


Saturday, June 20, 2020

President Donald Trump took the stage before a smaller-than-expected crowd on Saturday for his first campaign rally since the coronavirus pandemic began. read more


Due to low attendance the Trump campaign canceled speeches that Trump and Pence were scheduled to give at an outdoor stage in Tulsa to what was expected to be an overflow crowd. The cancellations comes after the campaign bragged that nearly a million people had signed up to attend. As is typical with all things Trump related, the campaign failed to take responsibility and blamed others for their shortcoming.


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"There is no evidence that anyone busted through the gate to enter the neighborhood as the McCloskeys claim."
You seem to be implying that, maybe the gate was left open, and then destroyed by the mob as they passed through?
I haven't seen it posted here, but McKlusky called the protesters on their reason for being there. The protesters had stated they intended to march to the Mayor's house. Apparently it was not reachable via the route they had taken through the McKlusky's neighborhood. Furthermore, the group that organized the event, "Expect US," has indicated that they intend to break laws and make people uncomfortable in their effort to create change.

#156 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

I'm not implying anything. I clearly stated the pedestrian gate was open as it has been every single time I've ever walked that route over the years. Watch the video at the twitter link I provided.
Any claim that the Mayor's house is not reachable from Portland Pl is false. Lake Ave, the street that Mayor Krewson lives on, intersects with Portland Pl from the south. Then there is a sidewalk that leads 1 block to the north and Lake Ave resumes.

As for Expect US and other groups breaking minor laws and ordinances, yes, that is how protests usually work. Otherwise it's not really a protest now is it? What do you call people not disrupting normal day to day activities and not making people think about injustice? That's just everyday life and complacency. What do you think MLK, Ghandi, Rosa Parks and Mandela were arrested for? What do you think the purpose of was of the Singing Revolution, Tiananmen Square, Montgomery, Selma and Tommie Smith and John Carlos at the 68 olympics? They were breaking the rules and making people feel uncomfortable.

Johnny H: I read that in fact a gate had been ripped open.
#143 | POSTED BY MODER8

Here is the video of the group arriving at the open gate and walking through. You can hear and already armed Mr. McCloskey start yelling at them from his porch almost immediately when they enter through the gate. You can also see that the group was traveling up the sidewalk and the street and was not heading towards the house.

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Does what you see in this video match the police report which states " The victims stated they were on their property when they heard a loud commotion coming from the street. When the victims went to investigate the commotion, they observed a large group of subjects forcefully break an iron gate... Once through the gate, the victims advised the group that they were on a private street and trespassing and told them to leave. The group began yelling obscenities and threats of harm to both victims. When the victims observed multiple subjects who were armed, they then armed themselves and contacted police."

Johnny H: I read that in fact a gate had been ripped open. And according to the same news reporter (I think CNN) who was marching with the group, there were a few among them who were armed with guns. Also, having a large group walking in the direction of my house, even though they may simply march on by, is the same thing as having them walk "toward" my house for purposes of a large group of people coming up the street.
If the white couple is to be condemned for coming out front with their guns, then out of fairness it is important to give a balanced view of what all was transpiring. I think many liberals in their haste to castigate that white couple are willfully overlooking some important details.

#143 | POSTED BY MODER8

There is no evidence that anyone busted through the gate to enter the neighborhood as the McCloskeys claim. The gate was at some point damaged but not when the group entered. Perhaps it occured when people were trying to exit area after they were confronted by two armed crazy looking people. Perhaps it was damaged by the McCloskeys to create a cover story. No one knows at this point. What is for certain though is that video from the march clearly shows the gate was open and intact when the group entered through it.
As for guns, again the only claim I've heard that anyone among the protestors were armed was from the McCloskeys who are already on record making a false statement about the group busting down the gate in order to enter. I have heard someone inaccurately claim that video from the scene appears to show a protestors with a gun. What the person claimed was a gun was actually part of a video camera.
I believe I am giving them a balanced view out of fairness. They legit may have been fearful. They legit may have believed they can dictate who can walk on the street and sidewalk in the neighborhood. That still does not give them justification for pointing deadly weapons at people who are lawfully assembled. They appear to have broken the law and the St. Louis DA should be and is examining the situation to determine if charges should be pressed against them or any of the protestors.
I believe that everything I have claimed so far is based on the facts and that their story doesn't fit the facts.

Now I could speculate based on additional facts, such as this protest and it's route was planned in advance and publicized via local social media. And that in the same video that shows the group walking through the unlocked, undamaged gate that it appears the McCloskey's may have already been outside with their guns on the ready at the moment the protestors arrived.

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