It's all the Dems on Committees that matter.
#279 | Posted by Danforth

And who decides which dems get on which committees?

I've never been so embarrassed for others for their childish lack of pragmatism.

It is absolutely mindboggling how little accounting for real world conditions there are and how little appreciation of nuance or degrees of change there is.

It's all or nothing. Black or white.

Race. To. The. Bottom.

#252 | Posted by jpw

It was the pragmatism of obama and biden that lead to trump.
Both times.

So it's pragmatism that is causing the race to the bottom.

As JPW said, Obama worked with the cards he was dealt. So did the other leading democrats.....on all of those issues.

#246 | Posted by eberly

Weak dems work with the cards they are dealt.

Trump showed your cards don't matter. You use the bully pulpit and strongarm your party into doing what you want.

Major caveat to this is that the people who voted for Trump because of his populist statements (his embracing of populism was entirely cynical) were never going to vote for Obama anyway. Trump's cynical embracing of populism was well timed because the decades of GOP economic policy had finally caught up to the Repub middle class voters who supported it so long as those people bore the brunt of it.

#243 | Posted by jpw

Wrong. Tons of people who voted for obama later voted for trump because they felt so betrayed by obama.

Trump's embrace of populism worked because dems openly rejected it.

*and blew our chances at making dems the party of peace by not ending the wars after bin laden was killed.

The best you can hope for is one who can effectively work within it to still get things accomplished. Obama was that POTUS.

#228 | Posted by jpw

Obama was the one who blew our chance to fix the healthcare system. And blew our chances for justice against the bankers who had just crashed the economy.

Instead of embracing occupy wall street obama helped crush it. He abandoned populism so trump embraced it and won.

Flag:

AOC hasn't accomplished anything of note since coming into congress.

#179 | Posted by BellRinger

She voted to release the epstein files. How come much of your party voted against that?

As i said above, how is a progressive supposed to accomplish anything when the DNC and RNC both oppose them?

Ahhhh yes. The Man is holding her down...

#169 | Posted by jpw

Math is holding her down. She needs a movement like a liberal version of the tea party to give her any power.

Hopefully in the next cycle, it won't be so lopsided. The dems will run someone who the largest donors get behind.....hopefully.

#68 | Posted by eberly

Oh the donors who were happy to support a man who had just attempted the nation's first coup? ---- them.
You think the voters want those donors sending bribe money to their candidate?

It's not about big donors if you want to get people motivated.

Although it's funny that we're still arguing about elections as if they will be legitimate anymore.

An undeniable truth:

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#158 | Posted by MSgt

A trump cult member calling AOC a "lunatic" is hilarious.

How many nuclear armed nations does she threaten with mass destruction on twitter?

Other than a lot of verbiage, can you cite what she has actually accomplished during her tenure in the House?

OS: You are more than welcome to look up the definition of the word tenure ; )

#159 | Posted by MSgt

As i said above, how is a progressive supposed to accomplish anything when the DNC and RNC both oppose them?
She has the right agenda but lacks the allies to get it done.
The voters need to send her some allies.

She introduced the Green New Deal - a corporate donation of Trillions of dollars to corporations.

#154 | Posted by oneironaut

So you want THE GOVERNMENT to build the energy products of the future, instead of corporations?

What are you some kind of commie?

AOC hasn't accomplished much. I'm sorry, but it's true.

#151 | Posted by jpw

How could she? She's one of the only people in congress willing to fight against the elites.
She needs us to elect more allies for her to accomplish anything with.
Not the corrupt corporate stooges that the DNC supports.

So, you've learned you were wrong when you typed "Dems have 1"?

You thought it was 1 until now?

Yes, there are a few very heavy hitters on the GOP side that tip the scales in their favor.

But I wasn't arguing against that. I simply addressed your total of 1.

$253M didn't come from 1.

#62 | Posted by eberly

That depends on how we're going to define MEGA DONOR.

If we're defining it as someone who donates over 44 million, dems have zero, repubs have 7.

And I see george soros nowhere on your list. So what's with the republican obsession over him?

And that's not including of course the 40 billion that musk spent to buy twitter to feed fascist propaganda to the country. Or the unpaid efforts of any of the media and tech titans who gave billions in whitewashing press to trump and attacked dems for decades over fake issues.

www.usnews.com

I'm not complaining about it. Just accepting it as fact.

It's the game.

#43 | Posted by eberly

Dems top 10 total : 253 million

Magat top 10 total: 946 million

Hell the top 2 repub donors dwarf the top 10 dem donors.

"The rationalizing is where folks can't accept this misogyny exists within the Democratic party."

You never heard of Bernie Bros?

#145 | Posted by snoofy

You never heard of russian espionage?

Come on AMoron .. Even this Chinese man knows Soros is a big Liberal spender ...

Nonprofit financed by billionaire George Soros quietly donated $140 million to political causes in 2021
www.cnbc.com

#38 | Posted by oneironaut

Dems have 1.

Repubs have dozens. Maybe hundreds.

The electorate didn't turn to Trump. Trump kept his voter base and gained a small fraction of new votes (about 3 million IIRC).

Trump won not by being appealing to voters, he won by attrition and convincing people they shouldn't vote.

#127 | Posted by jpw

I'm talking about 2016. The way trump came to power.

Obama rejected populism, kept the wars going, protected and hired the reckless bankers, hardly fought for single payer, and didn't deliver the change he campaigned on. Hillary, though she probably would have been a decent president, was another polished politician with a sloppy record who carried no credibility when it came to overthrowing the corrupt status quo that is squashing everyone but the rich.

The DNC made it easy for trump to paint them as corrupt elites.

He's a salesman. He says whatever you reveal that you want to hear. The country wanted to hear that a leader will take on the corrupt elites, so he said that and won.

But how do you see economic populism working out? The electorate has consistently voted for tax cuts and, foolishly I admit, decreases in social spending. They certainly won't vote for tax hikes or, more than likely, large scale social programs.

#101 | Posted by jpw

The electorate hates the insurance industry. They want a candidate who terrifies the insurance industry. Same as the utility industry. Same as the tech titans.

The electorate wants someone who fill fight back. Dems refused to give them that option, so they turned to trump.

She's got the narcissism and authoritarian spirit already established

#105 | Posted by john_savage2

Then you should love her.

I remember Harris had a bunch of giveaway programs as part of her platform and they didn't poll well IIRC.

#101 | Posted by jpw

Because she's not a credible messenger.

People want someone who is as angry at the status quo elites as they are, and harris doesn't play that part.

Y'all are going to guarantee Trump wins a third term.

#80 | Posted by jpw

No the DNC is doing that by burying their study on the reasons people hate them because we know what that study concludes - the people hate elitist corruption and want real populism.

Couple that with the fact that a woman as qualified as Hillary Clinton couldn't win and I just don't think AOC would be a good choice. You'd be handing the WH to the GOP on a silver platter.

#78 | Posted by jpw

You learned the wrong lessons.

An elitist status quo woman couldnt beat maga. A female corporate dem couldnt beat maga.

You know what dems haven't tried against maga yet? An actual economic populist.

The best reason to support AOC is how much the DNC and RNC hate her.