They came across as gleeful to me. And what I mean by that is not that they are happy about the pandemic itself, but that they see the pandemic as damaging to Trump so that aspect of it makes them gleeful.

You obviously see it differently.

Regardless, I'll move on from it. My comment got way more traction than I ever thought it would and I think it's detracting from the thread as a result.

#64 | Posted by JeffJ

Identifying a silver lining is different from being gleeful.

Exposing trump's economy as a delicate house of cards based on stealing propserity from the future and stock buybacks is a silver lining.

So is exposing the danger presented by republican rejection of experts, facts, and science.

Getting people to realize it might be actually matter that that president is a moron is a silver lining.

But theyve allowed trump to spew life-endangering misinformation for years.

Why start now?

Even if we bend the curve, without a vaccine, the area under the curve is roughly the same.

#6 | Posted by visitor_

It's about the peak of the curve not the area under it. Everyone who's been paying attention to the scientists instead of the con man knows that. Higher peak means hospitals are overwhelmed and more people die.

You can get all partisan-y when it comes to the US, but Trump doesn't really play a role outside the US. He's our president. Not the world's president. Whether you like him or dislike him.

#10 | Posted by madbomber

The US used to lead the world in crisis situations. Before your moron party elected the king of morons.

both sides
#3 | Posted by humtake

This country used to be able to do things right. Then a Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes decided they could have more money and power if they created a propaganda channel that made half the country completely delusional. So delusional that they now see nothing wrong with having a moronic egomaniac con man in charge of saving vulnerable lies.

BOTH SIDES my ass. When the left elects someone as stupid and dangerous as trump, you can say BOTH SIDES.

But dont hold your breath. The left isn't as dumb as the right.

There's a reason the left shut their states down early and the right still says that's an overreaction. The only thing the right can do is oppose the left, even if it means people will die.

I don't necessarily agree with the premise of the assertion of "gutting social safety nets" but if we accept for purposes of arguing, then couldn't the argument be made that we gutted such things so we can afford a real crisis such as this one? And that it suggests that everyone including those on the right actually embrace social assistance despite attempts to make them villians?

#3 | Posted by eberly

No they gutted those things so their donors could buy more jets and yachts.

And yes, sacrificing the young and healthy for the benefit of the old and sickly is retarded. It's evolutionary. And with this disease, it's the old and sickly who are at risk. Mostly Old and sickly at the same time.

#44 | Posted by madbomber

Read this and tell me if this sounds like a disease that only threatens the old and sick:

Grow up, rephrase your question, then ask again.

#102 | Posted by goatman

Oh are personal attacks off limits again? Because you were making them yesterday.

Then if anyone dies from the NYT article listing possible cures, their hands are bloody, too. Right?

#95 | Posted by goatman

Is the NYT the leader of the nation stupid?

Plus the NYT doesn't spew lies like trump does. No one other than fox news does.

The party had the perfect opportunity to ditch this moron crook, instead they all destroyed their own ethics and credibility to protect him and gave him total control of their fate.

It'll be hilarious to watch the entire GOP say "trump who?" after he's gone.

Plus those damn LIB states were the first ones to shut everything down. And since the primary republican reason for living these days is to do the opposite of libs no matter what, then the proper republican response is obviously to ignore the virus and NOT shut anything down. Can't admit those libs were right. Too bad the virus won't care and their stupidity will be clear for everyone to witness this time.

Just as on the Olympics thread and many others, you have to be reminded this one is not about Trump.

You are as bad as CraZed about inserting Trump into everything.

#7 | Posted by goatman

It's about the same priorities that trump had at the beginning of the crisis - saving the stock market is more important than saving lives.

This exposes the mental disease that has infected your party. Everything is about money.

Wish I was such a loser. I could use the money.

#8 | Posted by goatman

His money came from his daddy. Everything he has came from his daddy. Without daddy he'd be a failed actor, comedian, or used car salesman.

The most hateful president we've ever had is whining about being hated?

It was pretty tepid as far as personal "attacks" go.

#25 | Posted by JeffJ

You sure you want to take the side of defending goatman's hypocrisy?

That's like being Weinstein's lawyer.

Seriously, who cares?

Oh, I forgot, the DRama Queens of the DR Left hang on Donnie Little Hands every utterance.

#13 | Posted by Rightocenter

yeah we know you cult doesnt care. You happily accepted a fragile egomaniac as your cult leader simply because your perceived "enemies" hate him. No display of stupidity, childishness, or recklessness on his part will ever bother you, which is really quite revealing about you as a person.

I'm pretty sure your sexual fantasies are pretty bizarre.

#22 | Posted by goatman

Remember all those lectures you used to give about how you were so above personal attacks?

Liberatarianism requires both a simplicity of thinking, plus arrogance. It's not surprising a person whose political philosophy is "every man for himself" would do this.

I wonder if any of these were some of those who attacked him back in January for the restrictions on flights from China.

#29 | Posted by MSgt

YOu mean back when he and his propaganda network were still saying it was a hoax that would affect maybe 15 people?

This is what happens when you have states outsourcing leadership to the federal government. Our states are sovereign for a reason. We have forgotten we as a nation were intended to be a FEDERATION of independent states.

Make the governors be the leaders they are supposed to be.

#8 | Posted by boaz

So I guess by LEADERS you means they should have IGNORED the president's lies about how this wasn't a big deal, would be gone soon, there were plenty of tests and masks, and they should have started their own pandemic response units when trump disbanded the federal one, right?

Hmmmm. Shouldn't mayors and governors be leading? If the mayor of San Antonio relied on Trump and failed to lead, he wouldn't be getting my vote to re-elect him. I look for leaders, not leaders who look for someone to take charge. As the saying goes, lead or get out of the way.

#3 | Posted by goatman

I'm sure you'd say the exact same thing if obama were president and was screwing this up as badly as trump wouldnt you?

Just found out my dumbass neighbor nextdoor thinks it's all a hoax...
How did the Democrats get 3000 Chinese and 4000 Italians to die for an American hoax?

#1 | Posted by 503jc69

The power of fox news: facts and science are lies. Only trump and fox tell the truth.

Speaks,

Those aren't Socialist countries.

#44 | Posted by JeffJ

Then why do repubs scream SOCIALIST! when dems suggest following the policies that make those countries so much happier than ours?

Socialism only works if you have absolute control of the economy. That was one of the first lessons the Bolshviks learned. And Democratic Socialists aren't that different from Soviet Socialists. Or National Socialists, for that matter.

#27 | Posted by madbomber

Yeah that's why canada, switzerland, sweden, frace, etc are all in ecoomic shambles right? That explains why happiness and satisfaction are rate so much higher in those countries.

idiot

I mean surely if Rand Paul can be tested out of an "abundance of caution" then we can all agree that this would be a good thing for any American to be able to do, right?

#19 | Posted by JOE

No president einstein says that if you dont have symptoms you dont need a test.

He's still spreading dangerous misinformation every day. And trying to blame obama- the president who CREATED the pandemic response unit that he eliminated.