My suspicion is that those who believe Trump has done a good job on Coronavirus believe anything and everything Fox News tells them to believe and reject anything they accidently hear from any legitimate news source. I have honestly witnessed an intelligent person, who I will not name, talk on the phone with another fellow Republican business associate and heard him actually say "I heard on Fox News last night...blah, blah, blah. I actually respected that man before that but not after.

#11 | POSTED BY DANNI

Fox & Friends called Trump a brilliant businessman for losing a billion dollars during the 80's.

Trumpers aren't thinkers. See the QAnon movement.

From the article:
"Polls and poll-based forecasts all handed Hillary Clinton a certain victory," he said.

Not even remotely true. National Polls had her winning the Popular Vote.

But most state polls were within the margin of error.

538 gave Trump a 35-40% chance of winning.

This has been discussed in numerous studies and articles. How has a so-called "expert" missed this?

How bad is this model from the article? It says Trump will get 362 electoral votes...

Hey, Gracie, want to put money on Trump getting 362 electoral votes? I'll give you 3-1 odds.

Straight from President Donald "I paid someone to take the SATs for me" Trump.

How about all the students and staff just claim they have bone spurs so they can't attend while hitting the golf course?

Here are some good statistics if you would like:
www.bjs.gov
8% sustained. In other words, 92% were crap.
Okay, here comes the "statistics can't be trusted because the system is rigged and yada yada yada yada..."
Please. Even if the rate of sustained was five times higher, it still wouldn't crack 50%.
#25 | POSTED BY ABH

Cute.

That's only OF CLAIMS made. There are a host of excessive force complaints that aren't filed.

In addition, often when the department and/or city is sued, there is no citizen complaint filed. The case eventually is settled with no admission of wrong doing and life goes on.

You also ignore that 34% are not sustained in your article...meaning there isn't sufficient evidence to exonerate or confirm excessive force.

Yes, a lot of cases are bogus. But there are a lot of cases of excessive force as demonstrated during the protests in video after video.

By the way, your link is to an article using data from 2002.

By the way, to show how out of whack your link is, large municipal police departments averaged only 45 complaints in 2002. If you really think such departments only had people claiming excessive force that many times, you're nuts. They just don't file complaints to the department.

The meatheads that want the cops gone are the first to sue if they don't show when called.
Well tuff $##t.

#39 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE

And still too dumb to understand what Defund the Police actually means.

Wish I could say I'm surprised.

Now go crawl back under your rock. The Adults are talking.

Moder8 but is it because the case is weak? Or are you trying too say DAs mislead the grand jury..... That would be a bold charge I would like to see backed up.

#38 | POSTED BY ABH

Grand Juries generally only see evidence that shows a crime was committed. Nothing exculpatory, etc. That's why its generally easy to get a Grand Jury to indict.

On the other hand, despite this, Grand Juries don't indict cops as often because they tend to give deference to the officers via bias.

Republicans don't believe it.

We had DR Righties on here saying it was a hoax and no confirmed to any degree.

We provided confirmation and intelligence agencies indicated we had medium certainty on it.

Republicans ignored it and chanted "It's a hoax."

You can't have an Open Debate when Republicans believe in #AlternativeFacts.

How can you debate COVID-19 measures when Republicans honestly believe the numbers are way overblown and its no worse than the flu?

This is why 40% of the country will always support Trump and arguing with DR Trumpers really is pointless...except to laugh at how dumb they are.

big numbers of cases in big populous states mean crap - what's the percentage of overall folks and why are these three states not publishing vital response statstics like Michigan has since April?

#81 | POSTED BY MUTANT

Go use Google and do the math. We are tired of doing it for you.

#54 - the last photo always gives me a chuckle - good thing those BLM protesters don't know of the vast quantities of gold that CNN keeps in their headquarters. When you need to release a breaking story from un-named sources you have to have un-trackable payment in hand, hence the gold.

#84 | POSTED BY MUTANT

Let me guess, you also think QAnon is real?

Once Trump is out....it's going to be fun to see what folks say without fear of a consequence.
Loyalty to Trump is everything right now. There is still enough voters with enough loyalty to Trump, it keeps politicians from distancing themselves from Trump.
#4 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Once Trump is out, they'll say "Trump Who?"

Or do what many Republicans have done, "I didn't vote for him."

She'll claim victim status when her clients abandon her.
#7 | POSTED BY JPW

Well, she is a Republican. That's their MO.

COMING SOON TO AMERICA:

A few dead students and a lot of dead teachers!

So, the premise about corruption is obvious and has been a problem for a very long time and cannot be denied, and should be fixed. However, as it relates to covid, so what? The premise of the article doesn't help the problem we are fighting. If the funding would have gone to all businesses outside of the ones involved in the corruption, the economic numbers would still be the same. It would just mean other people got to keep their jobs while the ones who have been able to keep them today would not. The problem that covid is impacting our economy would still remain and be almost exactly the same. Moving money around doesn't change the impact. To put it more simply, if Jack and Sally both could lose their jobs, and Jack gets government money, he keeps his and Sally doesn't. If, instead, Sally gets the money then Jack loses his job.

#3 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

1. "If the funding would have gone to all businesses outside of the ones involved in the corruption, the economic numbers would still be the same."
We would have saved a lot more businesses. Go tell your BS about how Mega Churches and Kanye West deserves millions in loans to the mom and pop shops that got a dollar from the rescue. We won't be sending flowers to you during your hospital stay.

2. "It would just mean other people got to keep their jobs while the ones who have been able to keep them today would not."
No, dummy. Because the money went to businesses that didn't need it to keep employees on the payroll instead of companies that did. How god damn brain dead do you have to be not to understand that?

3. "Moving money around doesn't change the impact."
Moving money to the right places keeps people in jobs or at least in their homes. Instead we have your ---- up President in office shoveling it to his rich friends who don't need it.

4. "To put it more simply, if Jack and Sally both could lose their jobs, and Jack gets government money, he keeps his and Sally doesn't. If, instead, Sally gets the money then Jack loses his job."
We didn't give the money to Jack and Sally's employer. We gave it to Trump's rich friends to pocket.

Honestly, you are a complete waste of space in this country. You don't know anything. You don't care. You just continue to take from the government and whine because you aren't smart enough to understand any of the problems or issues.

Frankly, it's people like you who put us here.

In other news, Harvard and MIT have announced that all students will still pay full tuition even though all classes will be held online for the Fall Semester.

#1 | POSTED BY LEFTCOASTLAWYER

Isn't the Private Market fantastic? ...Oh wait...

Sorry, not good enough. This is America. We expect everything to be provided to us immediately because we are entitled to everything. Since we say it can be done, then it can be done. We ignore all professional medical advice because we are entitled to do so. Unless that advice agrees with our political beliefs. Then it is 100% true and accurate and the other party is to blame for everything. And people under 30 are allowed to ignore any social distancing measures because they are the smartest, most wise people in our society. Or so say all the people who think it's imperative that these same people come out and vote in record numbers every term.

#1 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

This level of stupidity...

1. "We expect everything to be provided to us immediately because we are entitled to everything."
The article is about being unable to treat COVID patients because we don't have enough doctors and supplies so old people are being sent home to die. Expecting basic medical care isn't being "entitled to everything", you idiot.

2. "We ignore all professional medical advice because we are entitled to do so. Unless that advice agrees with our political beliefs."
Democrats and Liberals aren't ignoring any medical advice. That's a Republican, Conservative and Libertarian thing. To even pretend otherwise is idiotic. So no one is surprised you are doing it.

3. "And people under 30 are allowed to ignore any social distancing measures because they are the smartest, most wise people in our society."
No, they aren't. But your idiot President and Republican Governors and Fox News are telling them its fine to do.
But in reality, it's only a portion of them. The majority are taking it seriously...except in Red States where they are throwing Coronavirus parties because they listen to idiots like you and Hannity.

Your both sides are the same garbage is an excuse for you to vote Trump again. You'd sound smarter if you kept your mouth shut and crawled back under that rock you crawled out from.

There aren't a whole helluva lot of folks who want to gamble with their kids lives.
#16 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

#28 | POSTED BY STC_917
#34 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT

Look at that.

When confronted with actual facts, STC_917 runs away like Trumpers usually do.

#39 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

This post is PURE BS.

How does Texas get only an honorable mention? We have done our fair share of stupidity to at least get an consolation prize for causing a huge spike in cases! I mean come on!

Fauci:
"We did not recommend wearing a mask because we believe it gives us a false sense of security.
Now as our understanding of this disease increases, we now recommend the mask."
Fact.

#6 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE

Great.

So why aren't Republicans wearing them?

"Now that masks are more widely available, the advice is to wear one".
--"If he's done such a good job, why are we still facing shortages of PPE?"
Are masks considered PPE? Are they widely available or facing shortages?

#14 | POSTED BY HOMERJ

No. Cloth masks are not considered PPE generally.

PPE generally refers to the protective equipment worn in medical settings that is higher grade, including things like gloves, face shields, respirators, gowns, surgical masks, etc.

Yes, we are facing a shortage as hospitals and clinics are using far more than usual and having to change them more often.

Google isn't that hard to use. Sorry you can't hear this on Fox News.

Stupid headline.
What's "harsh", exactly?

#4 | POSTED BY ANGRYDAD

Agreed.

After all, cats' Meows are an attempt to sound like a baby. They have learned over the last thousands of years that it gets our attention. They don't Meow at each other.

I'd be a little upset if dogs hadn't learned to communicate with us as well.

Everyone who has a dog knows the dog trains you a lot more than you train the dog.

We invaded 2 countries because of 9/11 and the loss of less than 5,000 people.

We can't even get people to wear masks or give a damn with 130,000 dead from Coronavirus.

You thought encouraging lawlessness and violence to be acceptable and then were surprised when people engaged in this Behavior.

#18 | POSTED BY TOR

Sorry. I'm confused.

Are you talking about the police or the protesters?

I didn't see a lot of police bleeding out on the sidewalks or getting beaten or losing eyes to rubber bullets or getting hit with tear gas while standing around peacefully.

So I think you'll have to clarify for me.

CDC says death rate is 0.26%. Just saying.

#2 | POSTED BY PHINPHAN

Per the CDC's studies, the range of estimates put the fatality rate for those showing symptoms between 0.2%-1%, with a "best estimate" of 0.4%. This is after we have learned to better treat it.

However, those with life long health damage, especially lung damage, caused by the virus is 25-100 times higher.

With herd immunity at 192,000,000, that's a death rate of 768,000 people (3 times the total US deaths in WWII) and people with life long health complications at 20 to 80 million.