All revoking Roe does is out the issue back to the legislature and the states. Repealing Roe in no way manes abortion illegal.

That's a pretty stupid remark. About half our states have trigger laws designed to automatically make abortion illegal to varying extent upon the repeal of Roe. Your comment requires us to pretend we don't all know this. Stupid.

Also, before you say "well then those voters should elect people who will repeal the abortion ban," that is also stupid for three reasons:
1. Many states have a divided or gridlocked legislature that cannot agree on anything, thereby blunting the will of the voters on this issue;
2. Many states have intentionally gerrymandered legislatures that will refuse to repeal ab abortion ban despite the will of the voters; and
3. Even if there were a state where none of those things were true, it would in all likelihood take time to pass a law and also deal with the flood of recreational rightwing litigation that ensued, causing considerable delay and confusion among the populace.
In sum, "leaving it to the states" is entirely insufficient for several reasons, only a few of which i addressed here.

The Senate was created as a check on the 50%+1 impulses of the House.

Argumentum ad antiquatetum, again.

It was designed to be a deliberative body.

To that end, it has failed miserably.

What you are pining for is the United State of America, where states effectively don't exist

Not true at all. There is nothing about "give every voter an equal say" that necessarily results in a more centralized federal government. I support rolling back federal powers in some areas and accelerating them in others. But at the end of the day, if giving everyone an equal say does result in a more powerful federal government, then at least it would be because that's what the most people wanted. Like you always say, get a better platform and appeal to more people and you won't have that problem :)

At the end of the day you take an ends justify the means attitude toward politics

Not really. I think the Senate and Electoral College are just as unfair to the millions of Trumpers in California and New York as they are to Dems in red states. I think everyone should have an equal say in our politics, which is a principled application across the board. You just happen to not like what the result of that would be, so you accuse me of being results-oriented because you can't imagine someone actually standing for anything other than just being a ---- to their party.

Lmao, Vlad's----------- is here to complain about "due process." Thanks for the laugh!

Presidential elections have been decided by the electoral college since this country was founded.
#21 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Argumentum ad antiquitatem. Google it, dumbass.

Any gun owner who would defend the shooters in this situation is not responsible enough to own or operate a firearm.

Pro lifers far outnumber pro-choice (FTFY), every poll shows that
#16 | POSTED BY GTJR

Even if that were true (it's not, you stupid ----), conservatives are always wetting the bed over "mob rule" any time someone points out they are driving the bus from the ideological back seat.

How does a sober person mistake a fart and laughing as a mountain lion growling?
#8 | POSTED BY JPW

Simple. They're stupid, paranoid freaks who have no business owning a firearm.

But ------- like Boaz will fight tooth and nail so that people who kill others while shooting at farts may continue to do so without hurdle or penalty.

You have no clue where i get news, nor are you even capable of recognizing where on the political spectrum a news outlet sits. You, on the other hand, are an obvious dupe who consumes trash media and it isn't even debatable.

#50 Jeff is such an obvious consumer of rightwing trash media; it's so pathetic to see him deny it.

"Regrettably, everyone involved in the loss of Ms. Buchanan's life must forever live with their personal decision-making and actions on this ill-fated night," wrote District Attorney Andrew Murray.

Any sane country would find a statute that applies to this incident and use it to, at minimum, take the offenders' guns or force them into a training course, so that they don't literally think a human fart is the sound of a black panther and just start wantonly killing people.

But this is America, so the only penalty for shooting someone to death is having to think about it.

The more legally coherent remedy is for the Speaker to refuse to seat her after the mouthbreathers in her district re-elect her. But since Nancy Pelosi is gutless, and since virtually every House Republican supports insurrection against the United States, it is highly unlikely to happen.

It's a felony in Wisconsin too, from the moment of conception onward. with no exceptions for rape. Been on the books a long time, unenforceable due to Roe, but never overturned. And our bad faith gerrymandered legislature will ensure it remains the law in this state when SCOTUS repeals Roe.

Republicans are sick -----, there really is no other way to describe them at this point.

Psaki was awful ... Between having to constantly walk back things her boss said to having to constantly lie because the policies and actions this administration are at odds with the public so they have to lie about what they are actually doing ... McKenaney was excellent.

The level of projection and intentional ignorance from the American right these days is honestly mind-blowing. Something happened to your brains and it is borderline creepy to witness.

I found Psaki to be incredibly effective. Hard to imagine anyone filling her shoes.

That's fine, but the goal of abortion banners will still be achieved. Most abortion clinics cannot afford to operate in an environment where their business is illegal, meaning services are dramatically reduced and more women are forced into costly/dangerous alternatives or indentured servitude.

#80 Congrats! One Ruble (0.015 USD) has been added to your sanctioned bank account!

While I don't think there's enough energy to try and criminalize ------------, I've been blowing my horn all week

Sorry, but that made me laugh.

I am by no means a CrimPro expert, but i think there could be serious jurisdictional questions if a state attempted to punish its residents for acts they committed elsewhere. That shouldn't detract from the central point of all this, which is that Republicans are bootlicking scum.

HIPAA does not apply to ILLEGAL medical procedures.

Not all bounty hunter systems will criminalize abortion. They can just create a civil cause of action and chase providers out of existence. But if HIPAA doesn't apply that creates an even stronger inference that any records *will* be accessible.

I'm suggesting it might be a step too far if it involves the turning over of medical records without the patients consent (or death)

Your "suggestion" is beyond retarded since judges routinely issue subpoenas for medical records that are relevant to pending litigation. And whether the abortion ban criminalizes the procedure or subjects the doctor/patient to a civil suit from bounty hunters, records related to the abortion will be relevant and will be obtained under existing law regardless of whether the patient consents.

You clearly don't understand my profession at all.

If you don't work on the medical side that's fine. But if you do, i'd suggest a refresher course :)

Even if there are medical records, how do you get them?

That will be another hurdle for republicans to get around in order to criminally enforce some law banning abortion.
#31 | POSTED BY EBERLY

HIPAA already has an exception where disclosure of records is "required by law," which has been understood to mean court orders and judge-issued subpoenas since the law's inception. As someone who works in the insurance industry you should know this very basic fact, but nobody ever said you had a functioning brain.

So who exactly is going to determine the difference between a miscarriage and an abortion?

A judge. That's like asking who will determine whether any other crime has been committed. Have you heard of the American court system?

One of the --------- weeks of our life together was made that much worse by some self-righteous ------- Republicans

This is what Republicans fail to understand. They act like women are getting abortions for recreation, when in reality it is typically one of the most difficult and profoundly sad experiences in a woman's entire life. Because Republicans are generally sociopathic, amoral ----- who lack empathy almost entirely, and assume that other people are as terrible as they are.

I'm sorry to hear this happened to you and hope you and your wife have recovered.

Considering that the American public apparently doesn't even care that Donald Trump incited a violent insurrection at the US Capitol, i'm not sure why his lawyers would bother trying to hide the fact that he is afraid of a tomato.