"an intense and complicated relationship"

^
that's code for, they sucked each other's dicks.

WOLVERINES!!!

"I can't imagine the abuse that child must've suffered to lead him to murder his own parents"

You can't remember your own childhood?

You know what? I believe you.

Wow so they ID'd the suspect at the same time they ID'd the suspect's body, is that what they're pitching here?

"Gas prices are 3 dollars? How much does a new car cost? Or a refrigerator? Or a t-bone?"

Or a college education.

"One young man and one young woman from each state and territory."

Trump continued, "And rest assured, America. I, President Trump, will be personally checking all the girls, to make sure they're really girls."

Actually it's YOUR healthcare system.
Enjoy
#184 | Posted by eberly

I thought you said it had like 160 Republican amendments added to it, in a stunning display of bipartisanship.
Anyway, if it's so damn awful, why won't Republicans repeal it?
Enjoy dodging that question for the rest of your life.

"are you saying there were no protections in place for folks with pre existing conditions prior to ACA?"

I'm saying it was a significant concern for fifty million Americans.

Another benefit of ACA was it sort of federalized these rules and took the complexity of 50 different states applying their own rules regarding how pre-existing exclusions would be applied.
#200 | Posted by eberly

Aw man. Simplicity instead of complexity?
Not able to screw people over because they crossed an arbitrary state line?
You're painting a great picture of why Republicans hate Obamacare so much... and also why they are not able to repeal it.

If you had prior credible coverage, you weren't going to be impacted by pre-existing exclusions.
#198 | Posted by eberly

Break it down for us, how many people had prior credible coverage, how many didn't?
Like an 80/20 thing?

It's not a big deal to you if 20% of people lose health insurance, over this, then?

What's the percentage where it starts to matter, to Republicans, since they voted against ACA and apparently were okay with the e.g. 80/20 split on people getting screwed by pre existing conditions?

I ask the question to underscore the point that Republicans have absolutely no solutions and no ideas and not even any suggestions for health care reform.

"I was referring to when cops legally arrest and prosecute criminals for committing actual crimes ... ... .its racist."

Like Freddie Gray, or Eric Garner?
There wasn't any racism in their deaths at the hands of police?

Inhale To The Chief!

(That was the name of the annual legalize pot rally in D.C. during the Clinton years.)

Gotcha. We can stop talking about it.
#178 | Posted by eberly

Oh no I think it's very informative to have these discussions.

What's your answer to #176, where America elected a President on mandate of health care reform.

Should that President use his mandate to direct his party in Congress to unilaterally shove "reform" down our throats, since they have the majority?

Or should he direct Congress to let the other party provide their input and represent their constituents, just like the both parties in the legislative process typically do?

Rape American Great Again!

#10 You're getting what you voted for.

Should Democrats have not allowed the Republicans to participate in the legislative process, since they had the votes?
That's my question.
I think it's a fair question.
#174 | Posted by eberly

I think it's a ------ed question that shows how much you Republicans hate America.

If you live in a democracy and your government is creating a bill that represents everyone's interests and personally affects every American's health, and you knew it was a political live wire, which would you choose?

One party dictates, or both parties work together?

only a ------ fascist who doesn't understand fascism asks this question.

"The only thing better was single payer and the democrats wouldn't do it. Not then....not now."

Well maybe
since you seen to be able to accept that

now we can move on to how do we address the issues at hand!

Which is: It's better to extend the Obamacare subsidies, than let them sunset.

And enough Republicans agree with that, for Mike Johnson to send the House to recess.

So yeah, that's the secret plan you were hoping the Republicans have up their sleeve. No vote on subsidies, until the new year, and the new bills are already skyrocketed for millions of Americans.

"JFC, did anybody even try to introduce single payer?"

Bernie tried.

zero leverage...and still got what they wanted in the bill.
#167 | Posted by eberly

Is that wrong?

Should Democrats have not allowed the Republicans to participate in the legislative process, since they had the votes?

They didn't need any of their votes to pass it so why the need to invite them to the table and let them destroy the bill?

They didn't want it to appear they were shoving this health care bill down our throats, by giving Republicans every opportunity to participate in the process.

The end result is Republicans say Obama shoved this health care bill down our throats.

Then you get the true visionaries like LftHndThrds who say, why should Republicans fix this health care bill that Obama shoved down our throats?

It's absolutely amazing how we Democrats been talking about health care on this site for over fifteen years, and you Republicans haven't learned a damn thing in that time.

In fact, you've gotten stupider. Deliberately stupider. Getting health leadership from RFK Jr is going to kill people. And Eberly it reads like you're running interference for that.

just a few posts above it was stated the republican added 160 amendments working with the democrats.
They did work with them......right up to the point where they didn't vote for it.
#164 | Posted by eberly

That works for me.

They changed their minds at the last minute when told to by their leaders. Sounds exactly like Republicans to me.

It aldo sounds like Democrats, but it sounds a lot more like Republicans.

Does it look different to you?

"I asked what prevented the democrats with coming up with something better."

Capitalism.

Not that they wanted to, but let's say Democrats tried to do Single Payer.

Do you think Democrats can successfully implement a government program which will subsume 18% of GDP in the face of Republican opposition?

I don't.

So, we got Government Subsidized Private Insurance. It's not the best plan in the world, maybe it's the worst, but I suspect that in terms of getting more people insured, we're better than we used to be.

And now, Republicans are crying they don't want to pay the subsidies any more.

And here we are.

The GOPs intent was to not support the bill regardless so why did the democrats allow their amendments?
#158 | Posted by eberly

Maybe they were trying to win your support as a moderate Republican.

"You're saying the republicans stopped the democrats from even coming up with something better?"

Republicans refused to work with Democrats at all on Obamacare.

So if you believe that Republicans have any good ideas on health care reform, then yes.

Republicans stopped themselves from helping the Democrats come up with something better.

If you're a sane person, you understand Republicans simply adopted a policy of refusing to work with Democrats on anything starting at Noon on Jan 20, 2009 because Obama.

"Law enforcement has been accused of racism since at least the 60s for targeting minorities."

Only sixty years?

You're one of these Republicans who pretends the origin of the police is something other than slave catchers.