Sunday, June 08, 2025

OpenAI is Retaining All ChatGPT Logs 'indefinitely'

Late Thursday, OpenAI confronted user panic over a sweeping court order requiring widespread chat log retention -- including users' deleted chats ...

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OpenAI CEO Sam Altman and his company have announced their intention to appeal a federal court order mandating the preservation of ChatGPT logs at the request of The New York Times and other news agencies in ongoing copyright infringement litigation. www.law360.com/artic ...

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-- Law360 (@law360.bsky.social) Jun 6, 2025 at 3:15 PM

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... To comply with the order, OpenAI must "retain all user content indefinitely going forward, based on speculation" that the news plaintiffs "might find something that supports their case," OpenAI's statement alleged.

The order impacts users of ChatGPT Free, Plus, and Pro, as well as users of OpenAI's application programming interface (API), OpenAI specified in a court filing this week. But "this does not impact ChatGPT Enterprise or ChatGPT Edu customers," OpenAI emphasized in its more recent statement. It also doesn't impact any user with a Zero Data Retention agreement.

OpenAI plans to challenge the order and is currently pushing for oral arguments, hoping that user testimony will help sway the court to set it aside. But for now, the company claims it's forced to abandon "long-standing privacy norms" and weaken privacy protections that users expect based on ChatGPT's terms of service. ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-06 08:54 PM

Really surprised Danforth hasn't stormed the ramparts with a broken bottle, as the AI industry is approximately a billion times more harmful to intellectual property holders than individuals sharing MP3s could ever hope to be.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-06 09:08 PM

@#2 ... the AI industry is approximately a billion times more harmful to intellectual property holders than individuals sharing MP3s could ever hope to be. ...

Got links?



#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-06 09:16 PM

Sounds about right.

#4 | Posted by fresno500 at 2025-06-07 07:25 AM

Currently AI agrees that it is indeed a more significant threat.

While both (music sharing and AI) pose threats to intellectual property, AI-generated music may represent a more significant, and potentially more disruptive, challenge to intellectual property rights than traditional free music sharing due to the complex issues surrounding copyrightability, the potential for market saturation, and the rapidly evolving legal landscape. However, it's important to recognize that both issues contribute to challenges faced by the music industry and creators in protecting and monetizing their work.

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#5 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-06-08 01:15 PM

I find it interesting openai is the only AI system being forced to keep chats indefinately even though they all train on the same information.

Could this be less about copyrights and more about stifling openai since they are becoming the most popular?

#6 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-09 12:49 AM

@#6 ... I find it interesting openai is the only AI system being forced to keep chats indefinately ...

So far, ChatGPT logs seem to be the only ones questioned in this specific lawsuit.

Will this lawsuit be a precedent that may apply to other AI engines?

Time will tell.

Meanwhile, I have noticed of late some unusual scraping of the data I provide on a couple of my websites.

While I do note that the OpenAI search bot has abided by my robots.txt file, these other bots do not.


#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-09 01:10 AM

Time to start flooding the logs with nonsense requests

#8 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-06-09 10:01 AM

Time to start flooding the logs with nonsense requests
#8 | Posted by Nixon

So just keep doing what you're doing.

#9 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-06-09 10:20 AM

One word.

Deepseek

#11 | Posted by fresno500 at 2025-06-09 02:02 PM

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