Sunday, November 02, 2025

Ask NT Wright Anything

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Today on the Ask NT Wright Anything Podcast, Mike Bird and Tom Wright tackle three challenging listener questions that get to the heart of Christian theology and biblical imagination.

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Tom unpacks how centuries of Christian mythology have distorted biblical ideas of "the Satan" (the accuser), explaining why evil has no rightful place in God's good creation, and what it really means when Scripture says Jesus "disarmed the powers."

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If you are a theist, you should know what the best translations tell us rather than what most Western Christians believe today. If you are an agnostic, you may be interested in at least what the story really means.

If you are an atheist, you can see what you are actually rejecting rather than what you've heard from so-called Christians.

"No hell below us
Above us, only sky" - John Lennon was basically correct

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-02 12:09 PM

"No hell below us
Above us, only sky"

^
Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
No soul. No heaven. No hell.
One wonders why it's necessary -- or how it's even possible -- to force a G-d to live within this framework.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-02 12:26 PM

#2

We only have what is told us through God's ancient followers that has come true, and what we can discern ourselves.

And then there's all the many times that what we have been told became reality, such as the prediction of the manner of death of the Messiah 400 years before the Romans invented it:

"These specific details, written long before crucifixion became a common form of execution, are cited by Christians as fulfilled prophecies in the death of Jesus Christ, who was crucified by the Romans." (AI Deep Dive section)

www.google.com

antichrist45.com

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-02 01:47 PM

"if you are an atheist"....

You have absolutely nothing to apologize for.

#4 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-11-02 08:46 PM

"We only have what is told us through God's ancient followers that has come true, and what we can discern ourselves."

So what? What good is an ancient prophecy today? Why haven't there been other prophecies that come true?

It has no material bearing on anything in our world if your G-d exists or is a mythological construct.

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-02 08:48 PM

- Why haven't there been other prophecies that come true?

Who says they haven't? Literally dozens of them point to the Devil in the WH.

Even South Park knows that.

- It has no material bearing on anything in our world if your G-d exists or is a mythological construct.

I'm going to call that, 'progress', lol.

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-02 09:04 PM

www.youtube.com

Satan's baby:
www.youtube.com

#7 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-02 09:07 PM


Many bible predictions that have come true:

Many people, across various faith traditions, believe that a substantial number of biblical prophecies have been fulfilled throughout history, citing this as evidence of the Bible's divine inspiration.

These prophecies generally fall into two main categories: those concerning the life of Jesus Christ and those detailing the fates of nations and cities."

Other prophecies relate to the rise and fall of ancient empires and cities, which are often supported by historical and archaeological records:

Fall of Babylon: Isaiah and Jeremiah prophesied the utter and permanent destruction of Babylon, specifying that it would be conquered by the Medes (Isaiah 13:17) and eventually become a desolate swampland, never to be inhabited again.

History records that Cyrus the Great of Persia conquered Babylon in 539 BCE, and the city fell into gradual ruin, eventually becoming the uninhabited ruins found today.

Destruction of Tyre: The prophet Ezekiel (6th century BCE) made specific predictions about the Phoenician city of Tyre, including that many nations would attack it, its stones and timber would be thrown into the sea, and the site would become a bare rock for spreading nets (Ezekiel 26:3-12).

Alexander the Great fulfilled this in 332 BCE by literally scraping the ruins of the mainland city into the sea to build a causeway to the island fortress, which led to the city's final demise.

Restoration of Israel: Prophets like Ezekiel and Jeremiah foretold that after being scattered across the world (the Diaspora), the Jewish people would one day be gathered back to their ancestral land and re-establish their nation (Ezekiel 36:24; Jeremiah 16:15).

Many see the establishment of the modern state of Israel in 1948 as a key fulfillment of this prophecy."

;;

It was of course argued that the predictions were actually written after the events.

Until the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered between 1947 and 1956... and they contained these writings dated to the correct period hundreds, and thousands, of years before the events.

www.google.com

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-02 09:49 PM

"Many bible predictions that have come true"

And how is that different than all the predictions that didn't come true?
What impact does it have on our world?
None.

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-02 09:52 PM


It has no material bearing on anything in our world if your G-d exists or is a mythological construct.
#5 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

So? Why do care? Why are you so intolerant?
Let people believe what they want.

Only in action should you care.

#10 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-11-02 09:54 PM

#9 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

You sound like a cultist trying to tear down a competing cult.

#11 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-11-02 09:55 PM

It gives credibility to the authenticity of the documents as credible writings credited to the revelation of God.

Which point I noticed that you avoid by claiming that it was of no matter whether there is a God or not, sans any argument why that is so.

Which is why I called that progress.

- None.

That appears to be an obfuscative claim sans any argument WHY it doesn't matter. Again.

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-02 10:01 PM

#11

Do you have a VISA for this thread?

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-02 10:02 PM

"It gives credibility to the authenticity of the documents as credible writings credited to the revelation of God."

So what? Some old storybook has some true stories in it, and some made up ones.
Most of history is like that.
That doesn't change things for us.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-02 10:03 PM

"That appears to be an obfuscative claim sans any argument WHY it doesn't matter. Again."

How has the foreknowledge of these prophecies benefited anyone?
What earthquake or flood was avoided?
Nothing. These prophecies prove nothing.

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-02 10:03 PM

If someone could predict an eclipse, would you take that to mean they're also correct when they say your soul will spend eternity in the lake of fire if you don't adopt their religion?

These are parlor tricks.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-02 10:05 PM

- true stories

No, they predicted events 100's of years, at least, before they occurred.

If you had that ability, you win at the Belmont Stakes.

#17 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-02 10:05 PM

Oh, but they predicted something unpredictable?
Yeah, wall street analysts do that all day long.
They crow about it when they're right.
They stay shut up when they're wrong.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-02 10:05 PM

If you had that ability, you win at the Belmont Stakes.
#17 | Posted by Corky

Exactly the point I'm making!
Where's the payoff from any of these prophecies?
There isn't any. Never has been. Never will be.

I mean, are you saying Zionists do in fact have JHVH on their side?

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-11-02 10:07 PM

- These are parlor tricks.

Really? We have the dates of the predictions, verified by scientific methods, and the dates of the events which are well known. How is that a parlor trick?

#20 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-02 10:08 PM

The payoff is that if these predictions they made happened, then other predictions they made about the End Times they may also happen, too.

And Trump is actually one of the possibilities of literally dozens of predictions by some of the same people coming true.

Who's being purposefully obtuse now?

#21 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-02 10:12 PM

#18

You're just in denial. Hopefully that will wear off.

#22 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-02 10:14 PM

- are you saying Zionists do in fact have JHVH on their side?

He never really liked them very much... called them a 'stiff-necked' people, gave them over to slavery for 400 years, made them wander the desert for 40 more just for good measure.

And these same writers in the OT predicted the world as we know it will end on top of Israel's head when they rebuild the 3rd Temple and all their neighbors attack them.

So there's that.

#23 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-02 10:20 PM

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