Monday, November 24, 2025

U.S., Ukraine Made 'Meaningful Progress' on Peace Plan

The U.S. and Ukraine made "meaningful progress toward aligning positions" on President Trump's proposed peace plan during their talks in Geneva on Sunday, the two countries said in a joint statement issued by the White House.

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European leaders responded to the 28-point peace plan and unanimously reaffirmed their support for Ukraine. Any peace plan must be fair and sustainable -- made with Ukraine and for Ukraine. Nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine. #StandWithUkraine

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-- UNITED24 (@u24.gov.ua) Nov 22, 2025 at 9:49 AM

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"The White House issued a statement after Sunday's talks concluded, saying:

"Ukrainian representatives stated that, based on the revisions and clarifications presented today, they believe the current draft reflects their national interests and provides credible and enforceable mechanisms to safeguard Ukraine's security in both the near and long term."

"In a statement after the talks, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said his delegation had "thorough discussions" with U.S. officials.

"A lot is changing: we are working very carefully. It is important that there is dialogue with the American representatives, and there are signals that President Trump's team is hearing us," he said.

Later Sunday, Ukrainian officials presented a counterproposal with requests for changes to Trump's plan and the U.S. expressed willingness to make some changes based on this, a source with knowledge of the talks said."

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It's not nice to fool Mother Russia.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-23 11:20 PM

Unfortunately, the Axios article cited is pay-walled.

imo, shameful for Axios.

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-23 11:21 PM

Non-paywalled ...

US and Ukraine announce updated' framework to end Russia's war
www.aljazeera.com

... The United States and Ukraine have announced a revised framework for ending the Russia-Ukraine war after an earlier proposal by Washington drew criticism for being too favourable to Moscow.

US and Ukrainian officials said on Sunday that they agreed that any deal to end Russia's war should "fully uphold" Ukraine's sovereignty as they unveiled an "updated and refined peace framework" that was scant on details.

"Both sides agreed the consultations were highly productive. The discussions showed meaningful progress toward aligning positions and identifying clear next steps," officials said in a joint statement following talks in Geneva, adding that the sides agreed on the need for a "sustainable and just peace".

Washington and Kyiv also reiterated their readiness to keep working together to "secure a peace that ensures Ukraine's security, stability, and reconstruction", the joint statement said. ...


#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-24 12:06 AM

That's good progress.

But my main question still remains ...

Is Pres Trump's agreement on anything worth the oxygen it took to utter it?


#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-24 12:08 AM

Also non-paywalled...

In Geneva, US and Ukraine officials report progress on ending Russia's war but offer few specifics
apnews.com

... Top U.S. and Ukrainian officials said Sunday they'd made progress toward ending the Russia-Ukraine war but provided scant details after discussing the American proposal to achieve peace that has sparked concerns among many of Washington's European allies that the plan is too conciliatory to Moscow.

U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio said high-stakes talks in Geneva were "very worthwhile" and constituted the most productive day in "a very long time."

"I feel very optimistic that we can get something done," Rubio said.

But he offered very little information on what was discussed. He also downplayed a Thursday deadline set by President Donald Trump for Ukraine to respond to the plan, saying simply that officials want to see fighting stop as soon as possible and that officials could keep negotiating Monday and beyond. He said that higher-level officials may eventually have to get involved. ...


#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-24 12:31 AM

Is Pres Trump's agreement on anything worth the oxygen it took to utter it?

#4 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

What is not to trust? He already ended 20 or 30 wars already!

No President has ever ended wars like Trumpy has. Look at the war in GAZA. All ended! Nothing to see there. No wars anywhere! Trumpy ended them all!

Only Trumpy can end wars. He said so himself. And we all know he would never lie to us! Not our Trumpy!

#6 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-24 01:54 PM

Yeah yeah yeah...

"Mission Accomplished"

blopdablam oink oink oink...

eye roll
Now... where were we?... oh yeah...

Epstein Files...

#7 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-11-24 04:53 PM

Actually... Trumpanzee did have a part in the peace plans...
Since... as he explained... Biden made Putin feel the need to invade Ukraine... the war was Biden's fault... he has promised to never ever ever ever E V E R let Biden be president again... there... just in time for xmas.

#8 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-11-24 05:01 PM

Dummkopf Trumpf can sniff out money just as he easily as he used to sniff out young beaver: en.isna.ir

#9 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-11-24 06:23 PM

Mega-oligarch Steve Witkoff sidelined retired US Army General Keith Kellogg and other pro-Ukrainian officials inside the White House.

The witless Steve Witkoff doesn't realize that Vladimir Putin and Sergey Lavrov most likely refer to him derisively as "the Jew."

One AI snaphot:

"The KGB, where Putin began his career, historically viewed Jews with suspicion, and some of Putin's past remarks have been criticized as antisemitic or insensitive. For example, he has made jokes or comments that played on Jewish stereotypes, though he has also condemned antisemitism in official statements."

Source: kyivindependent.com

#10 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-11-25 07:15 AM

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