***standing ovation ***

#39. That's false actually. She was armed with a chair leg she was using as a club that she removed from a chair she had broken in the Capitol. And she did more than break a window. She disobeyed commands to stop from a cop while at the front of a crazed mob.

#2 why so mean to AOC? You know ... . An actual bartender, not a bar owner.

Ummm. You do know that AUSAs are majorly overworked so they charge what they know they can easily have success with. Overcharging leads to less plea agreements and more work for everyone ... and far less likely convictions. All it takes is a sympathetic juror age they are left with nothing.

There are a lot of ways he should have reacted to this troll caller ... . He chose literally the worst possible response. Might as well just say "I'd really like to reinforce the feeling all my detractors have that I'm not fully in control of my faculties."

Come on.

She should have gotten more time.

Can someone explain the problem of direct selling cars to consumers? I would much rather buy a new Ford truck direct from the manufacturer at a set mark up over production cost than pay for the dealers overhead and a commission to the "salesman."

Clearly the driver was defending himself.

They would have if he deserved it. If his right to carry was never taken from him, nothing was wrong with him carrying. Period.

They only person in the wrong was that little vigilante Hitler idolater.

#132. I've seen no evidence that he had been stripped of his right to carry. It's not an automatic event. Not every felon has that happen. There is a process abs notification requirements. Can you say that happened? No? Then he was not illegally carrying.

The reason I ask Madbomber, is because he didn't shoot anyone, didn't go down and insert himself into a group of violent people he hated, and his gun was legal. And he was an adult.

But other than that, let's pretend their the same.

#88 Who did GG shoot again?

This is what happens when you have a biased judge and an unscrupulous incompetent DA.

So, we've all learned now, that it s as bunch of people I don't like are acting violently, it's totally cool if I grab a gun, drive dozens of miles out of my way to jump into the middle of the scrum like a hockey Ref dropping a puck, then act totally surprised when some of that violence comes my way and use it as an excuse to execute people.

I agree Joe. But most people ... . Aren't smart. They can't see post the event, And encapsulate the totality of the circumstance, or research and understand use of force and applicable law. I don't blame them for their stupidity, I pity them.

I don't have a problem with people that just support the idea that Rittenhouse was "defending himself." I get that. I thinks it's misguided and wrong given Wisconsin law regarding provoking ... . But that'sa quibble order legal issues and a difference of opinion.

Where I am just flabbergasted is where people are making this idiot out to be some kind of Saint out doing the lords work cleaning up the streets. He is a piece of filth and totally unworthy of hero worship. It makes no sense.

The hero worship of a white supremacist jerk is just weird.

#45 no one is saying the people he murdered are good. Of course they aren't. Was it a riot? Absolutely. We're they engaged in illegal activity? Sure.

But, Wisconsin law is very clear. You can't provoke an attack and claim self defense. This CHILD traveled there with the intent of murdering people and did. he paraded around in front of angry people with a gun expecting ... hoping for a response so he could use it. That's a provocation and mitigates his claim to self defense.

He had no business being there. The police are trained to handle the situation. A snot nosed Hitler loving white supremacist piece of garbage child isn't going to make the situation better. He's only going to make it worse ... .. which is what he wanted.

As usual, skeptical, your understanding of use of force is twisted abs well ... . Wrong. Because yes, he Was totally justified. The presence of a weapon is NOT required for an officer to use deadly force. The requirement is: a reasonable fear that his own life or those of others are in danger of death OR great bodily injury. Note, a weapon is NOT required. In this case Babbit WAS armed ... . She was carrying a chair leg she had taken from a Capitol chair the angry mob she was at the head of had destroyed. It's what she used to smash the window. The presence of an overwhelming number of individuals compared to the police, a history of them committing violence that day, the presence of his protectees directly behind him, and her complete disregard for lawful orders to stop, absolutely justifies his deadly force. The officers superiors, the AUSA, abs pretty much every sane person agrees with me. Which leaves you on the insane side.

#34 is true we don't. I'ma moderate. That doesn't mean I am in the center of every issue. Far from it. It means I evaluate every thing on its own Marie's abs form my opinion on facts. Not narratives spun by either side. Sometimes I'm a liberal. Sometimes a conservative.

On this particular case? I'm glad we do. This kid is the WORST example of humanity.

Oh and let's not forget, a couple of weeks before he murdered a few people, he is on tape saying he wishes he could murder a few people.

Wisconsin self defense law fairly explicitly states you can't provoke an attack and then use the statute to shield yourself. This little Hitler idolater grabbed a gun, went to a place where violence was already happening going to get good gun off. That is text book provocation. In the world of choices, he should have chosen to stay home and let people that believe differently protest how they like, and let professionals worry about when they cross the line. His excuse of being there to provide medical aid is laughable on its face. He has as much medical training as my 6th grader does after attending career day abs listening to a nurse.

This piece of trash is no Hero. He went looking for trouble, found it, and then the crushing weight reality set in after he murdered 2.

Eff that kid

Dammit I'm really struggling. Did anyone show up at astroworld after stating they can't wait to trample someone to death.

Can't wait to shoot a protestor to death ... .

Stupid auto correct

Did any anyone show up at astroworld after being recorded saying they can't wait to table someone to death like that piece of crap white supremacist Rittenhouse saying he wanted to shoot protestors with his AR? Any of them on camera with known racists flashing racist hand signs after being arrested?

No to both?

Okay.

Then perhaps You should take your equivalency and shove it somewhere.

Rittenhouse deserves a great deal of time in jail. I personally don't think murder 1 is appropriate for a 17 year old. But he certainly deserves manslaughter all day every day.

#46. My point is, Beto lost by a similar margin that Trump did , and the crowing is that trump lost in a landslide, yet Beto had a "blockbuster" campaign? It makes no sense.