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She's accusing Biden of rape? Now that is newsworthy. - #38 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-05-02 10:49 PM
What she's accused him of certainly meet the definition of rape in the legal sense. Ignorance of that reality isn't particularly newsworthy.
thelawdictionary.org defines rape as "The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or ---- with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim."

You just gave yourself away. Trump fears Biden, too. ~ LOL

#44 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-05-03 03:22 AM
I don't care in the slightest what Trump fears. I care about where I cast my vote. Last presidential election I didn't pull the lever for Trump or Clinton...You see, I'm not casting my vote for someone who abuses women, as Trump has, or the people that defend and protect abusive men, like Sec. Clinton protected her husband and defamed the very women that he abused.
Are you the kind of person who votes for sexual abusers or people who defend a sexual abusers?

"Suspect timing." I guess rape victims find that the best time to come forward is when the country really needs to know something about a person who is up for the biggest job interview of their life. And again, that has absolutely no bearing on the fact that she brought this up with people decades ago. People who come forward and admitted that she brought it up to them.

"Statements to others." Wow, her brother didn't come forward with more information than she felt comfortable sharing until she felt comfortable sharing it? What a monster. And the fact that Reade continued to tell people about the attack, as another two the author brings up, does not in any way eliminate the 2 who have come forward to the press and chosen to remain anonymous who were told at the time that it happened. I really liked this quote "The problem with statements from therapists friends is that the information they recount is only as good as the information given to them." It's funny that when you tell something to a therapist, it must be gospel...but if you tell something to a friend, it's only as good as your word. That ------- double standard rears its ugly head again.

"Lack of other sexual assault allegations." Funny that the author had to include 'assault' in there, because there have been numerous cases of Joe Biden's inappropriate touching of women and young girls. And there was only 1 allegation of sexual assault against Weinstein...until there wasn't.

"What remains. " An author trying desperately to pretend to 'believe women' while working so very diligently to invoke a double standard against the accusers of 'their guy'. The author even admitted that they wrote another column critical of one of Biden's other accusers.

Verdict: The author chooses not to believe some women.

Author of the article is a hack.
"Delayed reporting ... twice." She told people at the time of the event, unlike Dr Ford. Again the double standard...Dr Ford changed her story multiple times and that was never a factor in believing her.

"Implausible explanation for changing story" We know now very clearly that women do change their story for many multitudes of reasons.

"People who contradict Reade's claim." The author includes an blatant lie by one of those 'people who contradict Reade'. It beggars the imagination that someone could honestly claim to have "never once witnessed, or heard of, or received, any reports of inappropriate conduct (by Biden), period." There have been too many instances of woman complaining of Biden's inappropriate conduct, conduct he has since apologized for, to believe Baker's quoted lie. We know that people are willing to lie for Biden, this invalidates the author's point.

"Missing formal complaint." NY Times couldn't access the records (I'm sure they tried oh-so-hard) because the University of Delaware, which is the repository of those complaints, refuses to release them to the public.

"Memory lapse." More double standard: The inability to recall day/place/specifics was not in any way a problem for believing Dr Ford's story, but then she wasn't accusing a Democrat.

"The lie about losing her job." Here the author is ------- lying. She didn't leave her job after refusing to serve drinks...that refusal happened in early 1993, according to the author's citation. Reade was released in August. The author is hoping you won't bother to actually check the story.

"Compliments for Biden." Weinstein, another prominent Democrat rapist, also got emails and tweets of love and respect from the women he raped. An prosecutor worth a damn would realize that.

"Rejecting Biden, embracing Sanders." & "Love of Russia and Putin. " A twofer. Neither of those points have any bearing on what happened in 1993, or the fact that she admitted it to people at the time. The fact that her rape may have left lasting scars on her psyche which manifest in some bizarre ideas...like not wanting to sleep in a bedroom without 2 doors...well, it certainly wouldn't be the first time that such a situation was reported to have happened.

And for those following along: 2 more witnesses have come forward to independently corroborate Reide's allegation that Biden raped her in 1993.

Yes, penetrating a woman without her consent is rape.
"The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or ---- with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim."
-credit to EtAl for providing the link

She changed her story multiple times about what happened and how far it went.
No polygraph.
No corroboration of the basic events or her telling people what she says now happened.
Democrats are actually looking into it and poking around rather than covering it up or ignoring it.
And Republicans want it investigated despite not wanting to even interview people with knowledge of the Kavanaugh incident or ANYONE accusing Trump.

#62 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-04-13 12:23 PM
Both Reade and Ford changed their story. I'm sure you recall Ford claiming 2, no 4, no 3 people in the room?
Reade has not yet taken a poly, that is true.
2 people have come forward backing Reade's claim that she told them of the event when it happened back in 1993. No person has come forward to claim that Ford made any contemporaneous statement to them.
Precisely zero people other than the accused has come forward to deny Reade's story happened, while multiple people...including one Ford placed in the room...have stated that no such event happened in Ford's case. Mark Judge stated to congress that he never witnessed Kavanaugh sexually assault Ford. Ford's childhood friend (who Ford placed at the scene) said that she never attended a party with Kavanaugh.

There, consider your #62 debunked. JeffJ was probably just trying to save you the embarrassment of having to discredit your ideas.
I'm not sure why you feel that the actions of Republicans or Democrats have any basis whatsoever on the credibility of the accuser. They don't. But your whataboutism continues to betray the weakness of your argument. Is anyone surprised?

Rape has not been alleged. - #82 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2020-04-13 05:37 PM

" she said that the presumptive Democratic nominee shoved her up against a wall and penetrated her with his fingers in 1993" www.thecut.com

"Rape is a type of sexual assault initiated by one or more persons against another person without that person's consent. The act may be carried out by physical force, or where the person is under threat or manipulation, or with a person who is incapable of valid consent." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape

By what measure is forcing someone up against a wall not physical force?
In what manner is penetrating her without her consent not sexual assault?

(a) Rape."Any person subject to this chapter who commits a sexual act upon another person by"
(1) using unlawful force against that other person;
(2) using force causing or likely to cause death or grievous bodily harm to any person;
(3) threatening or placing that other person in fear that any person will be subjected to death, grievous bodily harm, or kidnapping;
(4) first rendering that other person unconscious; or
(5) administering to that other person by force or threat of force, or without the knowledge or consent of that person, a drug, intoxicant, or other similar substance and thereby substantially impairing the ability of that other person to appraise or control conduct;
is guilty of rape and shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.
(b) Sexual Assault."Any person subject to this chapter who"
(1) commits a sexual act upon another person by"
(A) threatening or placing that other person in fear;
(B) making a fraudulent representation that the sexual act serves a professional purpose; or
(C) inducing a belief by any artifice, pretense, or concealment that the person is another person;
(2) commits a sexual act upon another person"
(A) without the consent of the other person;

Please, do tell me how that's not rape.

Here is the evidence to tonyroma's lie: www.nbcnews.com
"A fourth person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said Reade told her about the alleged assault at the time."
"Reade said that she also told her mother, who has since died, and her brother, who has told The Intercept that he remembers having been told about an incident at the time."

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