Employers are thinking that they can keep on screwing the workers. They think they can continue to pay low wages, offer little or no benefits, and offer part time hours that no one can live on, and workers will just crowd in to apply.

Further, none of them have adjusted their applications to lower the expectations for employment. You don't need a college graduate to operate a cash register, you don't need 15 years of experience to be a waitress.

Mostly those complaining about not finding workers are putting no effort into actually seeking workers. They are hoping that complaining loudly will help in some way. After all it got the stimulus checks stopped and the unemployment payments lowered.

In these times of the pandemic, people are asking themselves if the pay and benefits are worth the exposure to them and their families. They are also asking themselves if they want to continue to do the work they were doing. A good portion are coming up with a no answer. The idea they are doing the work of 3 or 4 other's jobs and not getting anymore for the requirements are telling them they are worn out doing their old jobs. Why not change to something new in hopes of a better paying job or a job more satisfying to them?

It is sad that the children are not yet approved for the vaccine. So they are at this point unprotected. Worse, they will bring home what they got at school, just like it's always been with colds, flu, and other diseases.

If their parents are not vaccinated, it will likely be shared, just like it's always been. If the parents co-workers are not vaccinated...well you know the story and how it goes.

Employers requiring vaccinated workers or having to pay extra for medical coverage has shown economical incentives are biggies. But no one is really talking about just how much all these covid patients are paying out of their own pocket for all the long stays in ICU. Those that make it out are finding out, that's one heck of an incentive but by then it's too little, too late, to save on the pocket book.

Well this part was pretty much a given.

Where I have a problem with all this, is this isn't about future spending. This is about both parties having already spent the money while creating programs, adding benefits here or there, requirements that must be funded since they've already made the laws and payment is expected to the third parties carrying out their wishes. About 7 trillion and something that the republicans did while they were the majority party, not to mention what has been done since Biden has been in office.

They passed the bills and now want to play politics when it comes to paying for what they've already spent. Either side playing chicken is insane. Do away with this crap about having either party having a say in stopping payment for what they've already spent. The arguments should be when they are considering these laws, not after they have agreed and passed the bills on to be signed and they've become law.

For the now, I hold the republican party directly responsible for refusing to pay up for their part in all this and wanting to play chicken on shutting down the government solely to make political points.

uBlock Origin will take care of that.

#6 | Posted by qcp

Yes am aware of it and have it as an add on in my browser. Just can't install it on the tv.

does anyone know for sure if advertisements work?
#4 | Posted by LampLighter

Something I've done for a while, is when I go to a store, if that product has bothered me with ads since the last time I was in, I look for another product. If they can afford to advertise, it's not for free. The cost is hidden in the price of the product. You get nothing extra for the price increase, other than the aggravation you had with the commercial.

I wished others did that. If enough people did that so that sales dropped, they might get a hint.

There are already too many ads on internet tv, without adding the political onslaught to it.

I normally mute them all. I've gotten really really tired of just how many are showing up, not to mention the steady repeat of them. Some channels that are really heavy on the ads, I won't watch due to how many there are.

Bellringer, you might try keeping up with the news rather than your political rants. It really makes you look stupid.

The price of oil determines our oil output from refineries. Oil companies wind in wells that are low producers when the prices are down, drilling stops. It has nothing to do with politics, it's economically driven. This in turn determines how much oil we are exporting, how much is sold here in the US, and what the price is for crude, which determines indirectly what the price for gas will be.

I long ago gave up on watching baseball. It's more exciting to watch grass grow, something might happen watching grass.

It's finally come home. Politics is a lot like driving. The slow ones go right.

Isn't it great to have principals?

The economical reality is far more important because without a job, no food, no roof, no conveniences, unless you are your parents basement dweller.

Putting your money where your mouth is a sign you really, really, have those principals. As Nixon said, the side effect of keeping the job is you just might cut your chances of dying. An added plus is with increased chances of living, you'll have time to develop other principals.

I've read in other places that those areas where evictions were not allowed to come to court, that it would likely be around Christmas before they started being evicted, just in time for the holiday.

Other states like Texas allowed these to be filed waiting for the moratorium to come to an end and will be starting much earlier. From what I've gathered, it will clog the courts in their multitude. A Texas judge ruled the eviction ban unconstitutional.

Landlords have been left holding the bag. Unable to receive rent from those who could not or would not pay, yet still having to meet the tax burden on properties, mortgage, insurance, and other required fees. While aid was promised in the form of government assistance and income to the landlords much of it has yet to be disbursed. It is my thought some landlords will wait to see if they can receive this financial assistance that was promised.

So Covid is solving rampant consumerism, climate change and culling fascists? Time to fund the next variant.

#9 | Posted by bored at 2021-09-26 10:03 AM

That variant is already in the US. It's called Mu and originated in Peru. From what I'm hearing through a department head at a major hospital, research is already underway in how to deal with it. Since much of the details are confidential in many aspects, I'm not given specifics, but a general overall. The news is not good, if what I hear is correct.

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Right as the original covid was starting to hit the US, I bought a new truck. It appears I got lucky all the way around. Good price, good vehicle, no problem with delivery. Now that they are desperate for used vehicles, they've offered to buy it back at more than I paid for it. That would not help me as then I'd have to buy a higher priced vehicle to replace it.

The cheap prices that come from chain stores such as Walmart and other corporations of world trade are now showing the true costs of such economic insanity. Manufacturing domestically is at an all time low when we really need it. The prices now having to be paid along with the waits for delivery time show just how much we've lost while giving 3rd world counties our money and production and our workers do without good paying jobs that was provided by such production.

So how long before they start pox parties for covid? Before vaccines were developed for the measles and chicken pox, kids were purposely exposed to the infected in the belief that kids would not suffer the effects of coming down with such as severely as if they were adults. So the parents arranged parties to get the kids exposed early and on purpose.

What could possibly go wrong with this practice, in today's world?

No mystery here. This virus came and changed everything. Employers have not advanced with the times.

Boomers are retiring rather than deal with the high possibility of getting infected. They took their experience with them. The younger generations are now filling those spots. Only there is not as many replacements as the boomers that retired.

So workers now have a choice of where to work at. They can pick and choose their employers because of that gap between the amount of workers and the jobs available. Employers are still thinking they can pay minimum wage and limit hours to less than 40 hours a week so they don't have to supply benefits. Those that don't step up and are still thinking they can get away with low pay are the ones not getting employees.

In addition, the women in the work force who have children, do not have support and have to stay home to take care of the kids. Bus drivers are lacking so many have to go twice a day, to take the kids to school and to bring them home. Kindergarden places aren't handling enough kids, those that are open, and they are charging record fees. Momma has to prepare food, do laundry, and all the things necessary to run a house hold. Many parents are deathly afraid of public schools and believe with good reason that their children could be infected and bring it home, so they are home schooling that takes time and personal attention.

The younger generations have been taught that the dollar is everything. They don't have job security because first time workers are to be laid off, it's them. They've learned there is no loyalty to the job, only to the dollar and they now have learned that lesson well. They will not work for peanuts and many demand working from home. If the employer will not meet the demands of the workers, they will go else where to someone that will.

Again, no mystery why workers are not showing up. Just employers that don't want to pay what is needed to get them.

The total inability of the Right to see how they are killing their own, in large numbers, tells me one thing.

Not a smart move if domination of politics is your goal.

#12 | Posted by danni

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You put your finger on it. I've been thinking this a while myself. That gerrymanding won't help at all, if the majority of your voting population dies on you.

But then I guess the dead still vote according to some of the results tabulated after the fact. /s

How does this make sense, this gargling iodine?

The entry path is through the nasal, predominately. This is an air borne transmission.

Some people I guess will believe anything, even when their lives are at stake.

Covid will stop when everyone has the antibodies. There's only two ways to get them. Either you can accept the jab or wait till it's your turn to get it.

With the jab, you might have a sore arm or some other symptoms and they go away in a day or three.

If you get covid, maybe you come through alive, maybe you don't. If you do make it through alive, that might not be the end of it as there is such a thing as long covid. Long covid can affect you for the rest of your life. I know one elderly lady on the internet who got covid, then long covid. She lost taste and smell, and since her lungs got damaged by the virus, she will now be on oxygen for the rest of her life. There are other possible symptoms such as blood clots floating around in your arteries. All those blood clots have to do is gather in your heart and you can die from that.

Only real problem now is so many are coming down with covid that didn't take getting the jab serious, they are all showing up for medical help at the same time and no hospital is equipped for the masses all at once. They don't have the beds, the medical staff, to tend to those many people.

So triage has begun. That's what crisis standards of care is. They will have to pick and chose who gets medical help and who waits till there are people and beds to deal with them. Some won't make it, as those most at threat of death, with little chance of recovery will be last to get medical help. Those most likely to live will get help first.

I know two people that are heads of the departments in major hospitals. They both tell me, the first responders are worn out already trying to deal with so many. It has both an emotional toll as well as a physical toll on them, trying to save as many as they can. Most are working 12 hour days. One I know is on the verge of a break down due to stress working in the ER. The other is putting in the same type of hours and getting little sleep. Both are having supply issues with medical needs not arriving on time needed to treat patients.

So refuse to take the jab and sooner or later your number will come up. You'll be the patient looking for a bed in ICU. Maybe they'll be able to take you in, maybe not.

Both people tell me that it is very common for those with covid to ask for the vaccine after they are in ICU. It's too late then.

This virus will continue till there is no one left without antibodies. There's only two ways to get them.

If you don't want the jab, maybe there will be a hospital bed for you when you need it; maybe not. Makes no sense to me that those who don't trust nor want the jab, then go rush to the hospital after they've caught covid.

Sort of reminds me of a quote:

"There are three kinds of men. The ones that learn by readin'. The few who learn by observation.
The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. ~ Mark -----

Sure seems to be a serious line in front of that electric fence.

...and a year after that you'll be able to call Cobblestone Caterers and order some dino ribs.

Trump was the one that signed the deal to get out of Afghanistan. Suddenly he has a problem that it was done?

Trump is a well known liar. You can't believe anything he says.

It's time for media to remove this chit stain from the public's attention.

I was raised up in one of those little hubs of racism. I can tell you some stories.

In a small town where there were more pickups than cars, my father once took me to a big oak, right down town. Said that was here they hung the last '*****'.

In the days of Selma, a bus load of protesters came in to that little town, with the idea of having a protest demonstration. What they found when it was time to get off the bus, was a bunch of town folk, all standing around, holding guns. No one got off the bus.

Now you'd think from hearing that, I'd be a dyed in the wool racist.

Along came problems in my life later, elsewhere. Know who reached out a hand to help me when no one else would? That gentleman was a black feller and I didn't care. I only cared for the bind I was in at the time. Wasn't long after that we became good friends. I learned from that experience. Then later after that I had other experiences. All which led me to the same conclusions. It's not the race, it's the individual. There are good and bad in all of us and race has nothing to do with it, who you are, how you are, and the way you, are solely depends on the individual. There are asshats in all races.

Don't hate the guy in front of you at the stop sign for his race. Hate him because he could have turned 5 minutes ago and is just dallying around. *smiles*

It's east to have principals when they don't cost you anything beyond being vocal about your issue. It's much harder when you have to walk the talk.

Apparently there are a lot of keyboard warriors out there that have figured out if they want food, roof, and comfort, they are going to have to do what is necessary to keep the job.

That tells you just how earnest they are about their principals. All well and good till it comes time to stand on those beliefs come hell or high water.

I have learned of another victim of the non-vaccinated today.

My girl friend's grand daughter has come down with covid. She's 5 years old and got it in school. No vaccination approval yet for their age group.

Schools have always been a hot bed for any disease that is communicable. Then the kids bring it home to share with the parents, who go to work and share it with their co-workers.

This virus is non-political. It doesn't care what your politics are. It doesn't care what your beliefs are.

When someone dies of a heart condition because they can't find a bed in 40 different hospitals in the ICU, it tells you those who won't get vaccinated are clogging up the system totally, to the point of medical failure. Since they won't get a vaccination to help stop the deadly part of this disease, they are causing repercussions for everyone else by their lack of caring beyond the 'me' and 'freedumbs'.

This nation is falling apart with two sides that don't seem to be able to agree on anything to keep it going. Patriotism for the good of the nation has fallen to the wayside in favor of 'me' being most important. Trouble is each 'me' got assistance to be where they are by everyone else not being a 'I'm the only one that matters' attitude. Education, public services, are both things that the public as a group pay for, which is not a 'me' but all of us.

This rift is turning us into a third world country and quickly. Come December, when all these renters that haven't paid get tossed out, the one thing the government doesn't want to see is going to come to the forefront. Those who are unemployed, homeless, lack food security, and threatened with a virus gone crazy, will do the one thing it doesn't want to see. Protest, raise cain about the things that were not taken care of in the last bubble, and possibly threaten revolution, as businesses crater, the economy sinks to new lows, and stagflation takes hold and makes it the problem to add to all the other issues.

Pardon, I'm just teed off over the latest news I got... end of rant.

Will not take him long to go to 'rigged election' and all about Trump.

They wasted their money unless they wanted a political rally.

It has been known for a long time that when the boomers retire, there will not be enough replacements for them in the work force. To the tune of 25 million less workers available. There's no mystery here in what is driving the inability to find workers.

When covid started that was the trigger from then on out that drove much of the boomers to retire rather than expose themselves.

Companies will have to get with the times if they expect to find workers to fill empty slots. I hear from many that the employers are still thinking that they can hire for peanuts and no benefits to speak of for that those seeking employment and job seekers should jump at the opportunity. The newsflash on this is that it's now a workers market. They can pick and choose where to go and if the employers are not competitive in their hiring practices, they will not attract workers they need.

So much of this, "we can't find workers" depends on the hiring practices of the employers. For decades, the board members and CEOs have raiding the profits to stuff their pockets at the expense of the workers not getting enough in pay raises to even meet inflation costs. They don't want to give that up. It's the workers, not the CEO and board members that make what the companies can sell. There always comes a time to pay the piper and it has arrived.