Ironically, gays can be very intolerate.

Just watch the posts on this thread demonstrate it.

People who lives in bubbles don't understand that people who might go with the grandparents or kids frankly find the topic of a guy talking about his boyfriend uncomfortable and for some down right digusting.

I'd guess most people go there to hear Dolly Parton tunes...not to watch a gay musical.

At least he gets it. He admits the entertainment industry lives in a bubble.

Donner,

"You use your religion as a cudgel to repress others."

You have it all wrong.

My faith isn't about repressing others.

It's about freeing people.

Donner,

I'm not the one who posts like a dick around here.

Dan,

I can't say.

The nature of God has been debated for years.

Is God righteous, fair and merciful or is God jealous, angry and wrathful?

Or is He all of these things and beyond our human ability to fully comprehend?

Boaz,

Gays have a persecution complex because many straight Christians do single them out as if their own sexual sins don't matter and gays are doomed to hell.

Back in the 70s I had just been booted from the Navy and close to living in the street. I was eating at a fastfood restaurant one day talking about not sure what to do. My parents were not an option. While eating there, a total stranger came up to me introduced himself as the Pastor of a local MCC church that was in the process of being established in an extremely large city.

He offered me an extra bedroom living with him and his friend (lover as was called then). I made another friend while living there who helped me start college using my GI Bill. Eventually I finished my BS in Accounting and Minor Computer Science.

I'm getting to a point. The Pastor would talk to me since I lived with him and we discussed his take on homosexuality and sin in the Bible. Simply put he told me homosexuality is not a sin. I did not then and have never agreed with him. I'm glad I got the opportunity to learn his take on it.

Reconciling homosexuality and Christianity torments some young people who are raised as Christian and then realize they are gay.

Some straight Christians who most likely were homophobic before being saved use Biblical scripture to justify their hatred. It's very complex topic.

MCC resolved the issue I guess by teaching homosexuality is not sin.

I can't accept that but instead I simply decided straights and gays are all sinners and thus the whole purpose and reason for salvation and God's grace.

We're all sinners and saved by Grace through redemption and accepting you are a sinner and only through Jesus Christ can your sins be forgiven.

Boaz,

The point is we're all sinners.

And all doomed to eternal separation from God when we die.

Salvation is available to everybody who goes through the process of repentance, faith in Jesus Christ, and accepting Him as Lord and Savior.

It's not about being perfect. It's about accepting God's grace. The choice is yours.

Boaz,

"So is homosexuality"

So is having sex outside the bonds of marriage.

And Jesus said looking at a woman with lust is adultery. The same verses that condemn homosexuals also mention and condemn adulterers.

Looks like we're all pretty well screwed.

Speak,

I don't follow Trump.

Now shoo.

Corky,

"Because all people are imperfect in some ways."

That is exactly what Christianity teaches...no one is perfect.

What many people don't like to hear is that these imperfections, according to Christian belief, separate us from God for eternity when we die. But no one is forcing you to believe that. The Constitution guarantees the right to openly profess religious beliefs in the public forum, while also preventing the establishment of a state religion.

Regarding issues like abortion, consider that many people (religious or not) believe life begins in the womb. Those who hold that belief will oppose abortion as a form of casual birth control. This isn't just a religious debate. It's a moral and ethical one.

As a voter, I have every right to choose leaders who align with my values, including professing Christians as long as there's no mandatory religious litmus test for office.

Laura,

You're partially right but missing a point.

My issue with gay marriage was the possibility of radical gays attacking churches claiming discrimination.

It was becoming obvious gays were singling out Christians out of spite because conservative Christians don't endirse gay marriage.

I wanted gays to have legal protection for relationships because they had no structure or foundation. Just didn't like the word marriage for different reasons.

I didn't vote for Trumo out of retaliation for the Suoteme Court passing gay marriage. When the court passed gay marriage that showed me the court was liberal enough to pass other extreme measures and I realised the court needed a conservative president to nominate the coming up 3 open seats.

At that same time transgenders had started pushing for full legal access to facilities where women and minor girls use and I was concerned the Supreme Court could pass that.

Now that the court passed gay marriage i saw gays were moving forward and anything was possible that liberals wanted.

So I voted for Trump to block liberals from having more opportunities to pass more anti-women anti-Christian idealogy.

You're right gay marriage had something to do with my voting for Trump but not for the reasons you assume.

Censor,

I voted Democrat for decades until Trump.

When Trump ran the first time I knew that president might be able to nominate 3 justices and I absolutely did not want a liberal to have that opportunity.

It was becoming more and more obvious liberals were losing their sense of what is normal.

For me it was the transgender issue and the possibility of gays relegating women to a second class status that convinced me to stop supporting democrats.

Also, the blatant anti-Christian efforts of the far left is another thing that will further destroy the Democratic Party in my opinion.

Laura,

So now taking business risks and bouncing back makes someone unqualified?

Guess we should disqualify every successful entrepreneur who ever failed before making it big.

Sounds like you'd rather cheer for people who never even try.

Mod,

"As for tariffs: sadly Trump's plans are a lose-lose situation for everyone."

As for tariffs Trump's plans could potentially lead to negative outcomes, but it's too early to say how domestic and global trade will be affected. Anyone claiming to know the exact results is being dishonest.

Personally, I trust someone with years of experience like Trump over opinions from those posting on forums like this.

However, it's clear that Trump will face opposition, both from foreign leaders who want to see America fail and even domestic adversaries such as Democrats.

Ever heard of win/win?

Maybe both the US and Mexico got something they wanted?

It's a risky move but Trump is trying do something about the trade deficit and bring more manufacturing back to the US.

There are other objectives with these tariffs that would benefit the US and American workers.

We should hope it works instead of hoping Trump fails.

However, people who don't want to work and want to sponge off of everyone else might not see the benefits or even care.

Laura,

How about instead of insults you actually say what you disagreed with?

For decades the economy has functioned around short term thinking.

Short term benefits with long term consequences.

Trumps tariffs theoretically will have the opposite effect.

Long term term benefits with short term consequences.

That approach to problem solving doesn't help you get reelected.

He will likely not be in office when the long term benefits begin to take effect and whomever is in office will take all the credit.

Let's hope Trump's ideas work and the short term "pain" isn't too bad.

Donner,

It's interesting how both sides seem to cry foul when things don't go their way. After years of dismissing claims of election fraud, some Democrats are now raising concerns about potential cheating.

It just goes to show that election integrity is only a priority for politicians when it benefits them.

That being said I saw opportunities for election integrity failure when I read what was being planned during covid a month before the election.

I'm tired of people bringing this up just to insult me when there's double standards being played by both sides.

Donner,

Really?

My opinion that DEI will ultimately have the net effect of bumping more qualified people is disproven because bleach used for covid is a dumb idea.

Damn..you are reaching.

Rsty,

I was responding to Laura about voting crao again.

Keep up instead of just throwing insults.

I'm taking a flight on American Airlines this weekend.

Hope they watch out for helicopters.

Oops. Was that a joke and poor dems might be offended?

Alex,

Cracking jokes? I didn't hear them but then again I'm not obsessed with Trump.

I'm not talking about Trump. I was referring to some changes made under Obama that give the appearance of dei and would justify why Trump indicated as such.

I didn't catch the rest of his act and frankly I'm not interested.

Yav,

You're getting facts mixed up.

This amnesty program was under Obama.